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Fwd: [TIER] TV White Spaces. Was: Re: Economist: On tech and Africa
by Brian Munyao Longwe 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

I've been quite intrigued to see this discussion taking place. It started about technology in Africa and has now began to bring out the fact that many Western countries are pumping significant amounts of money and effort into research - with universities and private sector at the forefront. I have for a long time been a proponent of industry-academia linkages especially for purposes of ground-breaking research and development driven by recognition of local problems and challenges. What I find interesting in the thread below is how military application of technology is also a key driver of technology development in those regions (and I am sure that there is direct funding for this from military). With the levels of conflict and military engagements in our region (and accompanying huge expenses on foreign developed technology) wouldn't it make sense for us to develop academia-industry-military linkages? Just thinking, Brian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amanda Pratt <pratt.amanda.l(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [TIER] TV White Spaces. Was: Re: Economist: On tech and Africa To: Alexander Chemeris <alexander.chemeris(a)gmail.com> Cc: TIER <tier(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu> Hello Everyone, This is mostly directed at Claro's comment: "There is plenty of opportunity for innovation. As software radios have matured, radio designers observe that software is optional, i.e. one would build a highly configurable radio that could do anything a software radio could do but based on dynamically configurable hardware modules, instead. Say a silicon design that implements an RF engine in the form of an ASIC. There are reasons to believe that such an ASIC would simplify the path toward both trusted spectrum agile and cognitive radios." These IC radios are what I do research on here at Berekeley. DARPA has put forth money for many organizations to work towards such a 'universal' or 'cognitive' radio. Together with Raytheon and Nokia, we at the BWRC are looking into the problem. There are a number of technical difficulties in this space, given the broad number of protocols and frequencies, but it is a hot area in integrated circuit design right now and solutions are likely to be commercialized in the next few years. Right now, the work is focused mostly on consumer applications (i.e. making your iPhone work both here and in Europe) and military applications. But, I personally am involved with the project because of its applications to the developing world. I would love to speak with any of you in the space regarding the opportunities and challenges for getting the last 3 billion on the WWW. Please reach out with any insights on the the market and demand for mobile, obstacles to adaption/demand satisfaction, areas for innovations, and other general implementation issues in both Africa and the rest of the developing/rural markets. Thanks! Amanda UC Berkeley Graduate Student Researcher apratt(a)eecs.berkeley.edu On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alexander Chemeris <alexander.chemeris(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Steve. Working on OpenBTS I'm looking for time when we'll > see GSMWS and LTEWS. I.e. when one could install a GSM or an LTE base > station in any place where there is an available spectrum. At this > moment explosion of mobile networks is held by this single thing > called spectrum regulation, which prohibit you to deploy mobile > services until you pay a lot of money upfront. I hope that TVWS and > initiatives like the Netherlands' low-power unlicensed GSM will pave > the way to a wider shift in spectrum regulation. > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Steve Song <steve(a)villagetelco.org> wrote: >> I think it is worth considering too that TVWS is as much a regulatory >> innovation as a technological innovation. Secondary spectrum use through >> the use of a geo-location database and ultimately hopefully through spectrum >> sensing offers a real opportunity for regulators to by-pass the typically >> glacial process of spectrum re-allocation and re-farming. One need only >> look at the digital switch-over process in Africa to see how that is a >> reality. Not to mention the risk reduction associated with secondary use >> versus betting a big chunk of licensed spectrum. >> >> Cheers... Steve >> >> P.S. For interest, I attach a couple of charts on propagation from some >> BBC-funded research. >> >> >> On 15 February 2013 21:45, Ermanno Pietrosemoli <ermanno(a)ula.ve> wrote: >>> >>> The free space loss is 6 dB less at 450 MHz as compared to 900 MHz. >>> However, this is if you can clear the first Fresnel zone, which, as Yahel >>> pointed out, requires more antenna elevation at 450 MHz. >>> Besides, to obtain the same gain at 450 MHz the antenna should be twice as >>> big as at 900 MHz. So the real world advantage is kind of iffy with regards >>> to 900 MHz. But the latter frequency is not unlicensed in most of the world >>> (outside US and some Latin American Countries), sot the comparison that >>> matters is with respect to 2.4 GHz. >>> I agree with Yahel that for long distance point to point links 5 GHz is >>> more cost effective, but stick to my point for BTS coverage to both mobile >>> and fixed subscribers. >>> Regards, >>> Ermanno >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Kurtis Heimerl < kheimerl(a)cs.berkeley.edu> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can you tell me how much better the propagation is for a 450mhz BTS vs a >>>> 900mhz BTS? >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 15, 2013, Ermanno Pietrosemoli wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Yahel and group, >>>>> >>>>> The lower frequencies have much better propagation characteristic. While >>>>> it is true that the Fresnel zone size increases with the square root of the >>>>> wavelength, the diffraction coverage also increases with wavelength, and the >>>>> absorption losses in walls and foliage are also less, that is why TV bad >>>>> devices are touted as NLOS. Of course, this might not be the case for very >>>>> long distance links, but it is very significant for a multipoint coverage of >>>>> a base statiion. >>>>> These frequencies have been used in commercial deployments in several >>>>> countries in what is known as CDMA 450 systems. The improved propagation >>>>> properties have indeed been proved, although the commercial succes has been >>>>> limited. >>>>> >>>>> Yahel is right that the antennas are considerably bigger, and have lower >>>>> gain at reasonable sizes, but there is a plethora of offers in this band. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Ermanno >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Shaddi Hasan <shaddi(a)berkeley.edu> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great points Yahel. On the subscriber density issue, there's a lot of >>>>> demand for capacity at lower frequencies, primarily due to their ability to >>>>> penetrate foliage. I think 900MHz unlicensed equipment has 28MHz of >>>>> bandwidth available; I hear in practice this is about 10MB of capacity per >>>>> access point for modern equipment. TVWS would augment this existing >>>>> equipment very nicely, assuming it ever becomes available at cost-effective >>>>> prices. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Yahel Ben-David <yahel(a)airjaldi.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> TVWS might not be the panacea for rural broadband as commonly >>>>> believed... >>>>> At least not for fixed-wireless (stationary roof-top antennas to replace >>>>> non-existent DSL solutions). >>>>> >>>>> Where it comes to long-distance links, we're doing just fine with >>>>> conventional WiFi: >>>>> >>>>> 1. We have enough bandwidth even if all links are 40Mhz-wide, since >>>>> these are highly directional links that do not interfere with each other, >>>>> and ahh... rural typically means sparse - so bandwidth scarcity is not a >>>>> problem... >>>>> >>>>> 2. We won't enjoy the "better" propagation qualities of the lower >>>>> frequencies - we already build high capacity links on 5Ghz for as long as we >>>>> can see... The only limitation is line-of-sight (LoS). In-fact, LoS is not >>>>> the accurate term here - the limiting factor is a clear Fresnel zone and >>>>> that's worse the longer the wave-length. To put simply, if to get a 70% >>>>> clear Fresnel zone for a link on 5.8Ghz between two buildings at 50 miles >>>>> distance you'll need tower heights of 25m (at both ends), that same link on >>>>> 700mhz would require tower heights of 72m. To be honest, you get more energy >>>>> through that 70% clearance on the 700Mhz than on the microwave link, but >>>>> only about 12% more - so in practice 12% less in the tower height for the >>>>> same link quality - that's 63 meter tower for the TVWS vs. 25 meter for >>>>> WiFi. >>>>> >>>>> * BTW, the above calculation ignores the curvature of the earth - the >>>>> real towers needed for such a link are much higher, since the "earth height" >>>>> in the middle of that link is about 127 meters - far higher than the towers >>>>> in the example. However, we assume the use of mountains or hills for such >>>>> links and hence the above example simply show how much taller hill is needed >>>>> for 700Mhz vs. 5.8Ghz. >>>>> >>>>> 3. The antennas are huge - if I'm to build such a link (between two >>>>> hills or from a high mountain to a far valley) I'll choose high-gain >>>>> antennas. Say about 30+ dBi or higher. On 5.8Ghz, that's a small low-cost >>>>> antenna that I could easily mount on balconies' railings by myself. For >>>>> 700Mhz - ohh well, most balconies won't hold the size and most railings >>>>> won't hold the weight, not to mention the truck and crane needed to haul and >>>>> lift the thing... And.. don't forget wind-load and maintenance...etc... >>>>> True - 700Mhz might not need as high gain as it propagates better, but only >>>>> about 12% better... >>>>> >>>>> 4. Costs and availability - I guess that's obvious... but some may argue >>>>> this would change with increase in demand... I doubt that - for the above >>>>> reasons, there won't be any demand for fixed-wireless gear on these bands... >>>>> Moreover, the whole manufacturing cost structure is against these bands, not >>>>> to mention operational complexities due to the regulatory domain. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So are TVWS good for nothing?! >>>>> >>>>> These bands are promising for rural mobile! >>>>> They may offer the increase in subscribers density per base-station that >>>>> may drive operators to serve the more rural areas, given them a less risky >>>>> chance to ROI than with current technologies, not to mention the reduced (or >>>>> none) license fees. >>>>> Given the super-low gain antennas that are used in mobile-phones, their >>>>> physical size increase for use of these bands would not be significant. >>>>> * Mobile phones must not use higher gain antennas - or else we'll have >>>>> to hold them straight or point them in the direction of the tower. >>>>> >>>>> So yes - TVWS are great, but might not do what many of us think they >>>>> will... >>>>> >>>>> BTW - TVWS are ill-suited for dense urban areas for their strong >>>>> propagation qualities - in the cities, we strive to contain >>>>> >>>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli >>>>> >>>>> Presidente >>>>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed) >>>>> www.EsLaRed.org.ve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli >>> Presidente >>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed) >>> www.EsLaRed.org.ve >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TIER mailing list >>> Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu >>> TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu >>> https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Song >> +1 902 529 0046 >> +27 83 482 2088 (SMS only) >> http://villagetelco.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TIER mailing list >> Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu >> TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu >> https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Alexander Chemeris. > CEO, Fairwaves LLC / ООО УмРадио > http://fairwaves.ru > > _______________________________________________ > TIER mailing list > Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu > TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu > https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier _______________________________________________ TIER mailing list Website: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu TIER(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu https://www.millennium.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tier

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by Ken 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Every Act prescribes a commencement date before which the Act cannot be operationalised. The CP Act under section 1 provides that the Minister must set a commencement date for the Act but in any event not later from 90 days from the date when the Act was published. This means that if the Minister does not set the date, then upon expiry of the 90 day period, the Act shall be automatically operationalised. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Mark Mwangi <mwangy(a)gmail.com> Date: To: kenkenyaworld(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK This is actually a hilarious exchange if you ask me. It is akin to what vint cerf was talking about a few months ago about freedom to information vs access to internet. Tying rights and procedures to particular technologies will see you rewrite your laws every few years. I am also curious Mutoro as to the legal and operational consideration behind requiring a physical printing of a new law. Are there ministries that do not have computers and internet? On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, <eonchari(a)lynxbits.com> wrote: Infact, that is the very same reason (land commission) I had possed the question. It beats common sense to just leave it to the discretion of the executive as they are inclined to abuse it - as has the president on the land commission issue. Is this leeway not time bound? Can the president legally ignore this for as long as he feels like it? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.com To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, As per Cap 2 s.19 19. Where any written law, or part of a written law, came or comes into operation on a particular day, it shall be deemed to have come or shall come into operation immediately on the expiration of the day next preceding such day. In my opinion this means that the law is in effect from the date the president/minister gazettes it will commence. However your question is about the act becoming operational and in my view this is within the discretion of the executive as we have seen with the delay in gazetting the national lands commission. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.com To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk To: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www...cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured)... Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me? Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Infact, that is the very same reason (land commission) I had possed the question. It beats common sense to just leave it to the discretion of the executive as they are inclined to abuse it - as has the president on the land commission issue. Is this leeway not time bound? Can the president legally ignore this for as long as he feels like it? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, As per Cap 2 s.19 19. Where any written law, or part of a written law, came or comes into operation on a particular day, it shall be deemed to have come or shall come into operation immediately on the expiration of the day next preceding such day. In my opinion this means that the law is in effect from the date the president/minister gazettes it will commence. However your question is about the act becoming operational and in my view this is within the discretion of the executive as we have seen with the delay in gazetting the national lands commission. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www...cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured)... Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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As we peddle sheng . . .
by robert yawe 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

. . . the world searches for a new universal currency http://www.gizmag.com/bitcoin-creation-value-overview/26325/?utm_source=Giz… Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Harry, Thank you for sharing this. I have a nagging question- is it a requirement (by law) that each act must be printed/gazetted (physically) for that act to be operational? Regards, Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: kkairo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Edwin, Fortunately the National Council for Law Reporting usually publishes acts of parliament, subsidiary legislation and the Kenya Gazette on their website www.KenyaLaw.org promptly after publication.. Regards, Harry Karanja Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:07 AM, eonchari(a)lynxbits.com wrote: Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy.. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www..cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured).. Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kkairo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Would it not make more sense to have the printer publish these Gazette Notices on their website in PDF version, etc? How many people do actually buy these gazettes? What is the ROI on printing such humongous documents? How many of them lie gathering dust at their stores? This agency needs to clean up its act and catch up with the rest of the world in the 21st Century. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.ukTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/19/13 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Let me also thank Kerubo for the effort. However,it seems bad public policy to sell such 75 page document for 420/= ,that is Kshs.5/60 per page.It is therefore cheaper to xerox than to buy. Since all costs of printing by the Govt. printer are paid by the public(cost of machines,salaries etc), it would seem that cost recovery(not profit) should be the guiding principle. John Kariuki From: stephen Mutoro To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 16:21 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Thanks Kerubo: I greatly appreciate that you have been first to scan and circulate the copy. You have my 21-gun civilian salute! As listers will see on the stamp, it was actually received today. They were printed last night. Were it not for our action, it could still be unavailable. I am also hoping that listers will take time to look at the many areas which deal ICT and even consumer (not necessarily Cofek) representation on regulatory bodies. Debate should therefore move away from personal tirades against Cofek and the character of my person. It should be about issues. My last appeal, lets read before we comment. May also circulate it to your colleagues and personal networks. Consumer protection is real. It is time Kenyans looked at it differently. Some of us are preapred to pay whatever price to confront hurdle against enhanced consumer protection. Look around you - from your technology gadgets, clothes, food, window-blinds, wrist-watch to many other issues - I will be surprised if you are unconsciously less than 90% "carrier" of counterfeits and/or sub-standard goods. Lets toss to the first ever one-stop consumer legislation in Kenya and third on the Continent! Regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Kerubo Ombati To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Dear All, A copy of the Consumer Protection Act is attached. Regards, Kerubo On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: @James, You have some beef to pick up with Mutoro, right? Otherwise I don't see the sense in your question, given that Mutoro already explained why it was important to have this Act printed. On 19 February 2013 14:26, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: Now that it has been printed and copies are lying at the printer's office, what was the hullabaloo all about? Can we pick meaningful battles not activism for activism sake. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Stephen, I request COFEK to scan their copy and share the electronic version with us. You see, as middle class, we are used to doing things from the comfort of "behind our keyboards". On 19 February 2013 13:20, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Brian: Just an update - that our peaceful demonstration slated for February 21 against Government Printer Mr Andrew Rukaria has been called off - after his office worked overnight to publish the Consumer Protection Act, 2012. A copy is available now at the Haile Selassie Avenue Bookshop for Sh420 per copy. I am encouraging all of you to take a look - to understand what the Kenyan law, and not necessarily Cofek, sees consumer protection.Thanks for those of you who had supported our action. Kind regards, Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: smutoro(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Off topic: COFEK Opps, forgot to include link to the article I refer to: http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1360%3A… On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention.Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. What I don't understand is: Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action?Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me?Mblayo _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgmbugua%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Please register for remote participation @ WSIS+10
by Gideon 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Dear Listers, http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/info?id=14&reset=1 WSIS +10 review meeting: "Towards Knowledge Societies for Peace and Sustainable Development" <http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/info?id=14&snippet=2> Register Now<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/register?id=14&reset=1> The World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) set a common vision of societies in which information and knowledge play critical roles in enabling the development of countries, societies and individuals, including those marginalized and the most vulnerable. In 2015, the WSIS outcomes implementation will be reviewed by UN General Assembly in pursuance of the Resolution 60/252 and the paragraph 111 of the Tunis Agenda for the Information Society. UNESCO, in cooperation with ITU, UNCTAD and UNDP, is organizing the first WSIS +10 review meeting entitled "Towards Knowledge Societies for Peace and Sustainable Development". This meeting will assess the progress made, look at ongoing and future ICT trends and build a vision for new information/knowledge societies in the framework of the overall WSIS review process towards 2015. It is intended to bring together 600-800 physical and 1500 remote participants, including Ministers and high-level governmental officials, heads of IGOs, CEOs of the private sector and the civil society representatives. When 02/25/2013 10:00 through 02/27/2013 18:00 Location 7, place de Fontenoy Paris, 75007 France Report a map error<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=48.850155,2.306264&z=12&t=m&hl=en-US&skstate…> Show large map<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/contact/map/event?eid=14&reset=1> Contact Email: wsisteam(a)unesco.org Register Now<http://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/civicrm/event/register?id=14&reset=1> Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica

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Re: [kictanet] [KICTAnet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo,
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

My take, Key future staff and the board members to this agency should be vetted in a more open forum (comprised of key stakeholders such as many in this forum). There should also be an audit on the performance of the 2 outgoing officers and board members and findings forwarded to any other government agency that they wish to join so that it informs the appointing authority in those agencies of their past performance. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: eugene(a)synergy.co.keTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/20/13 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] [KICTAnet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo, +1 Somebody say Amen! > We need to understand ICT does not and is not confined to mobile and > mobile applications. We need to develop software development, we need > to focus on green energy, we need to talk about nanotechnology and the > like. In other words, we need to totally reengineer the business process of the KICTB. Regards > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet- > bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Kivuva > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:55 AM > To: Eugene Lidede > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo, > > Powerful statement by James and others. I hope Dr. Ndemo is listening. > > On 19/02/2013, James Mbugua <jgmbugua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Can we have a competitive and thorough process to replace Kukubo. > Half > > of the people working there should leave with him. The Kenya ICT > Board > > is not a cash cow, it is a body that should be staffed with serious > > performers who understand their mission. > > > > We need to understand ICT does not and is not confined to mobile and > > mobile applications. We need to develop software development, we need > > to focus on green energy, we need to talk about nanotechnology and > the > > like. In other words, we need to totally reengineer the business > process of the KICTB. > > > > I have always been highly critical of the CEO's penchant for taking > > plane rides across the globe ostensibly to market Kenya when it would > > be cheaper to invite the Peter Thiel's and Pierre Omydar's of this > > world here to meet a large group of techies. > > > > I have also been critical of the staff's penchant for behaving as if > > they exist to be served and not to serve Kenyans. We need proper > > competitive processes to be applied to staff these positions. Let > them > > be appraised by their job description and what they have achieved and > > equally account for these trips they are always making to one > > conference or the other. Can we be told how the country benefitted? > > > > We laud Kukubo for founding the KICTB but not for allowing it to > > become what it has become. We need to clean house. > > > > James > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:59 PM,

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Re: [kictanet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo,
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Stephen, I raised some of the issues that you have below...I was branded an "activist" for bringing that up....maybe we are all better off just singing the positives and look the other way. Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: smutoro(a)yahoo.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/18/13 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo, Hi Alice: Interesting you anticipate negative comments on the duo?? I will neither give -ve or +ve. Just fill me in what were the key benchmarks for KICTB and do what extent have they realized that dream? What are the key deliverables? Was it really necessary to have KICTB at MOIC and e-Government at OP? If Konza dream were to ever become reality, would we need KICTB? Why isn't there proper succession planning - as it appears CEO and his deputy leave at the same time? Were they competitively recruited? Why wouldn't the two vacancies to be advertised? Kind regards Stephen Mutoro www.cofek.co.ke On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Alice Munyua <alice(a)apc.org> wrote: http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/02/paul-kukubo-victor-kyalo-set-to-leave-ict-… After five years at the helm of the Kenya ICT Board, Paul Kukubo is leaving his post as CEO and Taking over as the head of the East Africa Commodities Exchange. No website yet but you can read more about it here. Paulâ€™s contract was renewed in 2010 for three years through this Gazette notice. Victor Kyalo, the Deputy CEO at the board is also set to leave, to go back to teaching at the University of Nairobi, but he will probably not take long before he bounces back to the ICT sector He lectures/teaches electrical engineering at the University. Paul and Victor have been leading lights in Kenyaâ€™s ICT industry and are responsible for setting up the board and showing its relevance to other ministries but with the e-gov directorate, you understand why the roles were confused. Now its time for all in the industry to forget all those things we never liked with the board and start with all the nice things, and how we will miss them. Yes, seriously And here I goâ€¦â€¦â€¦ During their leadership, the government of Kenya was able to appreciate technology and innovation, opened its data for developers, and set up the youth fund, which was supposed to supplement venture capital and savings. Who can forget Tandaaâ€¦â€¦. The content grants, they made some folks rich, some skipped town while others realized running business is hard. IBM set up a research lab, government is contributing Ksh 170 million and the staff is being sourced from the best universities globally, given that Kenya has no capacity. During its earlier years, maybe first or second, the board supported BPOs, in fact, I think that was the main reason it was formed, but priorities have changed. Who is taking over? Eunice Kariuki is the deputy CEO and can be expected to take over, if there is no argument that we need fresh blood to be injectedâ€¦â€¦ or some other argument like that. So, what do you have to say about the duo? You can put your nice things in the comments _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Off topic: COFEK
by Brian Munyao Longwe 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

I'm sorry but I must bring this up here as there was a recent discussion involving COFEK. Today I saw COFEK on social media calling consumers to join them in a protest outside Govt printerr office. I followed the link indicated in their post to find out what the fuss was about and found this: * The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) is concerned at the poor performance by the office of the Government Printer headed by Mr Andrew Rukaria (pictured). Since assent of the Consumer Protection Act on December 13, 2012 the Government Printer's office has been giving endless excuses from backlog to lack of films and other materials. Meanwhile the Act remains unpublished and it cannot be operationalized as a result. Our numerous calls and letters have only yielded in unfulfilled and indefinite pledges of printing the same. Mr Rukaria has also taken to avoiding our calls. >From the foregoing, we hereby demand for his voluntary resignation within seven days. Failure to do so, Cofek will simultaneously seek for judicial intervention. Cofek, will after this ultimatum, mobilize consumers to physically eject him from his office for his consistently poor and unacceptable performance. *What I don't understand is: 1. Since when was it that an Act cannot be operationalized simply because it hasn't been printed by Govt printers? 2. Isn't there an electronic version of this Act that can be used/referred to in case of legal issues/action? 3. Is there anything stopping COFEK from printing their own copies of the Act? (If they need it so badly) Please enlighten me? Mblayo

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FW: IGF Fellowship Programme - call for candidates
by Grace Githaiga 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Dear Listers The IGF secretariat has released its application for the IGF fellowship aimed at Internet Governance capacity building in developing and transitional countries. The application form is attached. Each country is expected to nominate at-least 3 candidates. The names will then be sent to the IGF secretariat for the final selection. Our own Mich and Barrack are beneficiaries of this fellowship. We therefore look forward to another Kenyan participating. Considering that this list is multistakeholder, we would appreciate nominations from the different stakeholders. To avoid inundating the list with too many messages, kindly write to me offline if you are interested. With Kind RegardsGG -------- Original Message -------- Subject: IGF Fellowship Programme - call for candidates Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:02:25 +0100 From: Chengetai Masango <cmasango(a)unog.ch> To: Paul Wilson <pwilson(a)apnic.net>, fmakane(a)gmail.com, Hisham Aboulyazed <hyazed(a)tra.gov.eg>, lara.pace(a)comnet.org.mt, "Mark.Carvell(a)Culture.gsi.gov.uk CARVELL" <Mark.Carvell(a)Culture.gsi.gov.uk>, alice(a)apc.org, keith(a)internetnz.net.nz, judy(a)fossfa.net, andres(a)lacnic.net, Valeria Betancourt <valeriab(a)apc.org>, Lillian Nalwoga <lnalwoga(a)gmail.com> CC: Farzaneh BADII <fbadii(a)unog.ch> Dear All, I am contacting because you are registered with the IGF Secretariat as the contact persons for your respective IGF regional IGF initiatives. As you know we have a fellowship program run by the IGF Secretariat. Its aim is to contribute to Internet Governance capacity building in developing and transitional countries The fellows are placed with the IGF Secretariat in Geneva and while contributing to the work of the Secretariat gain valuable experience and contacts within the Internet Governance space. The duration of the fellowship is 3 months with the possibility of extension of up to 9 months. The fellow is then expected to return to their home country and impart the knowledge that they have gained during the fellowship. Each fellow receives a plane ticket and a stipend that should be enough to take care of their Geneva living expenses (It is not meant to cover their expenses at their place of origin as well) We would like to expand the catchment area of fellows and therefore would ask if the regional IGF's could form multistakeholder selection committees in their respective regions to select up to 3 prospective fellows and send their names, CV's and attached P11 form to the IGF Secretariat for further selection, final selection will take place in NY. The list of protective candidates should be sent to fellowships(a)intgovforum.org. Please also include the date when the prospective fellow will be available. At the moment we would be grateful if you could include a candidate with web programming skills in the selection. Finalists for the fellowship programme will have to go through a telephone interview and will also be sent further forms to fill out. It is likely that we can only have two fellows at a time at the Secretariat but the final number is determined by the availability of resources. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask me of Farzaneh cc'd above. Best regards Chengetai

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] ICT Masterplan dubbed Connected Kenya 2017 launched
by Brian Munyao Longwe 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

It was actually launched by the ICT Board, not by CCK On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:58 PM, dan wanjohi <nadwanjohi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone with the Cybersecurity Masterplan CCK launched recently. > > Thanks > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear Paul, >> >> Many thanks for this, indeed it is a step in the right direction my only >> concern is that we still have some self styled consultants and brokers at >> Sheria house at the name searches area which begs the question as to >> whether we are heading towards digital empowerement, is it just resistance >> to change or is this a sign of mwanainchi not plugging in? Why cant we have >> basic services like name search for companies going online? . >> On another note i find the document to be very high level and i doubt >> whether the common man would easily plug in , yet i understand that 70% of >> the local populace is Jua Kali, how do we get them to plug in ? i write >> this from the point of each Kenyan having a role in the success of Vision >> 2013, any other lister who may be in the know can also enlighten me. >> >> Best Regards >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo(a)ict.gony.ke<pkukubo(a)ict.go.ke> >> > wrote: >> >>> Listers >>> >>> Full Master Plan Document Can be Downloaded Here..<http://www.ict.go.ke/docs/MasterPlan2017.pdf> >>> >>> The government’s effort towards transforming the country into a >>> knowledge based economy through<http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/ict-masterplan/516-government-launches-the-n…>digital empowerment was on 14th February 2013 endorsed with the launch of >>> the first National ICT Masterplan, Connected Kenya 2017. A five year plan >>> that seeks to drive citizen adoption of the Vision 2030 priorities through >>> ICT policies and initiatives, the master plan projects that by 2017 >>> Kenya’s ICT industry will be contributing an estimated US$2 billion (some >>> 25 percent of Kenya’s GDP) and have created around 500 new tier-1 ICT >>> companies and over 50,000 jobs. >>> >>> “As a step towards its realization, the ministry is working on >>> standardizing business processes and developing sub-plans that will allow >>> the delivery of innovative public services within government” said >>> Information and Communication Ps., Dr.Bitange Ndemo“ >>> >>> Strong governance and increasing engagement between the government and >>> private sector will help to remove barriers that would impede execution in >>> order to deliver a society based on knowledge”, added Dr.Bitange Ndemo >>> >>> >>> Guided by the ministry’s policy objectives and to achieve the intended >>> full benefits of ICT, the Masterplan plugs into the vision 2030’s social >>> and economic pillars in seven keyintervention areas. Under the social >>> pillar are Education and Training, Health sector, Water and sanitation, >>> Environment, housing and Urbanization, Gender, Youth and Vulnerable groups, >>> Social Equity and poverty reduction. >>> >>> The economic pillar shall deliver on Tourism, agriculture, Wholesale and >>> Retail Trade, Manufacturing, Business process outsourcing and financial >>> services and the creative industry. >>> >>> What began as a stakeholder engagement on the hypothesis of what had >>> been adopted in countries like Singapore has taken two years, culminating >>> in the birth of the ICT Masterplan. >>> >>> “Indeed, the plan is ambitious and it is an attempt to infuse ICT s and >>> knowledge into the Vision 2030 by enhancing citizen value. How? by availing >>> channels that will stimulate the set-up of ICT related businesses and >>> therefore employment creation” said Paul Kukubo,ICT Board CEO., >>> >>> At the core of this Masterplan are three strategic pillars that will be >>> used as a measure of success. Enhancing public value through service >>> delivery and access of public service, strengthening ICT as a driver of >>> industry by establishing an ecosystem for ICT adoption and the development >>> of ICT business that lead an understanding of the emerging market needs. >>> >>> “The plan is really just a guideline and availing it to the public means >>> that we are open for further deliberation and feedback .We intend to review >>> the document annually to review progress and realign the same to the day’s >>> priorities”, added Paul Kukubo >>> >>> The Launch of the National ICT Masterplan comes just two days after a >>> draft National Cyber Security Masterplan roundtable, a final review session >>> for the country’s first document that seeks to establish a regulatory and >>> policy framework in information security. The Strategy and Plan play a >>> fundamental role in managing risks to government processes through securing >>> the information assets. >>> >>> . <http://www.ict.go.ke/docs/MasterPlan2017.pdf> >>> Paul Kukubo >>> Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board >>> PO Box 27150 - 00100 >>> Nairobi, Kenya >>> >>> 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street >>> >>> Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 >>> Fax: +254 20 2211962 >>> website: www.ict.go.ke >>> local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya >>> twitter:@tandaaKENYA >>> BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke >>> Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke >>> >>> >>> personal contacts >>> _______________ >>> >>> Cell: + 254 717 180001 >>> >>> >>> skype: kukubopaul >>> googletalk: pkukubo >>> personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke >>> personal twitter: @pkukubo >>> >>> >>> ____________________ >>> Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub >>> >>> Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, >>> through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth >>> for socio economic enrichment >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > *......................................................... > No pressure.....No diamonds!!!* > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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ICT Masterplan dubbed Connected Kenya 2017 launched
by Paul Kukubo 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Listers Full Master Plan Document Can be Downloaded Here..<http://www.ict.go.ke/docs/MasterPlan2017.pdf> The government’s effort towards transforming the country into a knowledge based economy through<http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/ict-masterplan/516-government-launches-the-n…>digital empowerment was on 14th February 2013 endorsed with the launch of the first National ICT Masterplan, Connected Kenya 2017. A five year plan that seeks to drive citizen adoption of the Vision 2030 priorities through ICT policies and initiatives, the master plan projects that by 2017 Kenya’s ICT industry will be contributing an estimated US$2 billion (some 25 percent of Kenya’s GDP) and have created around 500 new tier-1 ICT companies and over 50,000 jobs. “As a step towards its realization, the ministry is working on standardizing business processes and developing sub-plans that will allow the delivery of innovative public services within government” said Information and Communication Ps., Dr.Bitange Ndemo“ Strong governance and increasing engagement between the government and private sector will help to remove barriers that would impede execution in order to deliver a society based on knowledge”, added Dr.Bitange Ndemo Guided by the ministry’s policy objectives and to achieve the intended full benefits of ICT, the Masterplan plugs into the vision 2030’s social and economic pillars in seven keyintervention areas. Under the social pillar are Education and Training, Health sector, Water and sanitation, Environment, housing and Urbanization, Gender, Youth and Vulnerable groups, Social Equity and poverty reduction. The economic pillar shall deliver on Tourism, agriculture, Wholesale and Retail Trade, Manufacturing, Business process outsourcing and financial services and the creative industry. What began as a stakeholder engagement on the hypothesis of what had been adopted in countries like Singapore has taken two years, culminating in the birth of the ICT Masterplan. “Indeed, the plan is ambitious and it is an attempt to infuse ICT s and knowledge into the Vision 2030 by enhancing citizen value. How? by availing channels that will stimulate the set-up of ICT related businesses and therefore employment creation” said Paul Kukubo,ICT Board CEO., At the core of this Masterplan are three strategic pillars that will be used as a measure of success. Enhancing public value through service delivery and access of public service, strengthening ICT as a driver of industry by establishing an ecosystem for ICT adoption and the development of ICT business that lead an understanding of the emerging market needs. “The plan is really just a guideline and availing it to the public means that we are open for further deliberation and feedback .We intend to review the document annually to review progress and realign the same to the day’s priorities”, added Paul Kukubo The Launch of the National ICT Masterplan comes just two days after a draft National Cyber Security Masterplan roundtable, a final review session for the country’s first document that seeks to establish a regulatory and policy framework in information security. The Strategy and Plan play a fundamental role in managing risks to government processes through securing the information assets. . <http://www.ict.go.ke/docs/MasterPlan2017.pdf> Paul Kukubo Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke, www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www. doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke personal contacts _______________ Cell: + 254 717 180001 skype: kukubopaul googletalk: pkukubo personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke personal twitter: @pkukubo ____________________ Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment

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Voter register on OpenData
by robert yawe 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Hi, Does anyone out there know if the new electronically acquired voter register is available in electronic data or on the Open Data platform? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo,
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

Why would you limit an entire forum to only the positives? Why would we focus so much only on the positives? They occupied public offices, paid by public funds, let everyone express themselves OPENLY! Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: alice(a)apc.orgTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 2/18/13 1:33 PM Subject: [kictanet] Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo, http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/02/paul-kukubo-victor-kyalo-set-to-leave-ict-… After five years at the helm of the Kenya ICT Board, Paul Kukubo is leaving his post as CEO and Taking over as the head of the East Africa Commodities Exchange. No website yet but you can read more about it here. Paul’s contract was renewed in 2010 for three years through this Gazette notice. Victor Kyalo, the Deputy CEO at the board is also set to leave, to go back to teaching at the University of Nairobi, but he will probably not take long before he bounces back to the ICT sector He lectures/teaches electrical engineering at the University. Paul and Victor have been leading lights in Kenya’s ICT industry and are responsible for setting up the board and showing its relevance to other ministries but with the e-gov directorate, you understand why the roles were confused. Now its time for all in the industry to forget all those things we never liked with the board and start with all the nice things, and how we will miss them. Yes, seriously And here I go……… During their leadership, the government of Kenya was able to appreciate technology and innovation, opened its data for developers, and set up the youth fund, which was supposed to supplement venture capital and savings. Who can forget Tandaa……. The content grants, they made some folks rich, some skipped town while others realized running business is hard. IBM set up a research lab, government is contributing Ksh 170 million and the staff is being sourced from the best universities globally, given that Kenya has no capacity. During its earlier years, maybe first or second, the board supported BPOs, in fact, I think that was the main reason it was formed, but priorities have changed. Who is taking over? Eunice Kariuki is the deputy CEO and can be expected to take over, if there is no argument that we need fresh blood to be injected…… or some other argument like that. So, what do you have to say about the duo? You can put your nice things in the comments

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Wanjiku's take: Paul Kukubo, Victor Kyalo, set to leave ICT Board
by Alice Munyua 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/02/paul-kukubo-victor-kyalo-set-to-leave-ict-… After five years at the helm of the Kenya ICT Board, Paul Kukubo is leaving his post as CEO and Taking over as the head of the East Africa Commodities Exchange. No website yet but you can read more about it here <http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Commodity-exchange-planned-for-Rwanda/…>. Paul's contract was renewed in 2010 for three years through this Gazette notice <http://www.kenyalaw.org/klr/index.php?id=173>. Victor Kyalo, the Deputy CEO at the board is also set to leave, to go back to teaching at the University of Nairobi, but he will probably not take long before he bounces back to the ICT sector :) He lectures/teaches electrical engineering at the University. Paul and Victor have been leading lights in Kenya's ICT industry and are responsible for setting up the board and showing its relevance to other ministries but with the e-gov directorate, you understand why the roles were confused. Now its time for all in the industry to forget all those things we never liked with the board and start with all the nice things, and how we will miss them. Yes, seriously :) And here I go......... During their leadership, the government of Kenya was able to appreciate technology and innovation, opened its data for developers, and set up the youth fund, which was supposed to supplement venture capital and savings. Who can forget Tandaa....... The content grants, they made some folks rich, some skipped town while others realized running business is hard. IBM set up a research lab, government is contributing Ksh 170 million and the staff is being sourced from the best universities globally, given that Kenya has no capacity. During its earlier years, maybe first or second, the board supported BPOs, in fact, I think that was the main reason it was formed, but priorities have changed. Who is taking over? Eunice Kariuki is the deputy CEO and can be expected to take over, if there is no argument that we need fresh blood to be injected...... or some other argument like that. So, what do you have to say about the duo? You can put your nice things in the comments :)

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Mocality closing down?
by robert yawe 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

Hi, Can someone confirm if this is true and also what might be the reason. Hello Unfortunately all good things must come to an end, and Mocality, including Mocality Deals, is one of them. We hereby give you notice that Mocality will cease to render its services on the 28th February 2013. Of course, the fact that our site and related services is shutting down does not affect any coupons you may have purchased via our site. Coupons remain valid until they either expire or are redeemed in full by you at the relevant merchant. However, please log into the system between now and the 28th to retrieve any coupons or information that you may need as Mocality Deals will not be available after the 28th February 2013. If you are due a refund for any reason, you will be contacted individually to facilitate that refund. We would like to thank you for your patronage and your support, and bid you a fond farewell. If you require any more information please email support(a)mocality.co.ke Regards Team Mocality. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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University of Nairobi Set Top Boxes
by Dennis Kioko 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

At the launch of the National ICT Masterplan 2017, Dr. Ndemo mentioned that UoN had come up with a prototype Set Top Box, but had lacked investors to mass manufacture the same. Wouldn't have funds such as the Tandaa Grants and other funds the ICT Board is using to fund developers have come in handy here? Since most of the funds go to software applications, would have been good to fund this project, even if funding would mean that government maintained equity in the venture? -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>

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Re: [kictanet] Mocality closing down?
by Sam Aguyo 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

We need more of James Mwangi and SK Macharia in the local field. These people are game changers in their own rights. Mwangi took banking to the unbankable at the time when multinationals were closing down their branches including the ones they operated ever since i was young. SK a trailblazer showed others that people can make money from media. All these are local success stories. We expect multinationals to bring more money and more jobs, we are wrong unfortunately. We have our own ecosystem which we understand better than anybody else. We have the latitude of starting small learn the ropes and escalate ---------- Sent via Nokia Email ------Original message------ From: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> To: <saguyo(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:26:43 PM GMT+0000 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mocality closing down? It not unusual when a company fails. Indeed start-up mortality rate in Silicon Valley is highest. The questions we must ask are why did it happen? Could they do things differently? What do we learn from this? Any innovation like life will die. Death in enterprise is a certainty unless you understand Shumpeter's theory. In his thinking, he defined an entrepreneur differently and very close to what can be referred to a serial innovator. If you take IBM for example it has changed its core business several times in its 100 year history. When the US discovered a VCR, they did not think it can be a hot product since people liked to watch movies on a big screen. The Japanese had a different idea and one that changed how we watch movies. I have tried to understand why IMOBI closed its business yet their services are in great demand. Some of the answers I am getting include the fact that Africa's returns to investment were below that of developed countries and they wanted to focus where their bread and butter came from. Here again we have the opportunities to look at this from a different angle as Japanese did and succeed. Unfortunately, we may not look into doing a small paper on such failures and seek for new areas. We tend to agree with decisions of close down simply because we do not have the confidence to challenge them and do things differently. I am certain that if we do a bit of research on Mocality, we shall come with a new sustainable enterprise. We must begin to regenerate our enterprises otherwise we shall keep on finding ourselves in the dustbin all the time. We can be a technology leader if we always to try to understand our ecosystem and do things the way we understand them. The Western world dominates the rest of us simply because they investigate every happening even within our environment. Instead of condemning recent failures, let us understand why and what we can learn from that. This is what is referred to as a knowledge society. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:06:10 To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mocality closing down? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/saguyo%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Agriculture: Indian farmers said to have made record harvests by planting less, using no herbicides or fertilizers
by Dennis Kioko 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

For those of you interested in Agriculture, or perhaps those who are farmers or advise farmers: In a village in India's poorest state, Bihar, farmers are growing world record amounts of rice – with no GM, and no herbicide. Is this one solution to world food shortages? http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2013/feb/16/india-rice-farmers… -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>

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Re: [kictanet] COFEK: Formalin in Milk
by Dorcas Muthoni 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

Very unfortunate indeed, Stephen has now resulted to a war with me off list. See below and judge for yourself what COFEK is most likely to be about. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:45 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks Dorcas, > > I wasn't too sure I ought to reply to you further. But after seeing the > post below, I decided I should as follows; > > You may wish to over-stretch your argument in the manner you want and for > reasons best known to yourself. As far as we are concerned, we have no > apologies for calling yours a "hear-say". From your initial email - you > simply attended "several presentations" where it was mentioned, that is it! > You thereafter have no idea in what way, proportions, by whom and from > which part of the country the dangerous offense that has potential to bring > down a whole industry is concerned. Perhaps you over-rated us that you > equally failed to report the issue first to the milk regulator - KDB. > Unfortunately you decided this is the only basis you can judge our > competence. While I wouldn't cast aspersions on you, the way you did on > Cofek, I can simply say this - if you have no confidence in us, we respect > your right to your debatable opinion. > > Allow us our opinion too - that like Meshack Emakunat puts it (in a more > diplomatic way), Cofek and I will not act on alarmist hear-says which only > condemn without solutions. We are not about grabbing newspaper headlines > with unproven allegations. The list of such allegations are countless i.e > that butchers use the same formalin to preserve unsold meat. All that could > be true. But unless they are proven by competent authorities, they will > remain sensational non-sense. What a consumer body does as we are already > doing - is not to suggest to consumers what is recommended. Why? If you > condemned company x making brand y milk, that company x will simply switch > to brand z which would be the same as what would have been condemned! > > Finally, if you don't mind, subscribe to the "Consumer Pride" mailing > list, coming soon, when will announce a joint Consumer Dialogue Forum with > the Kenya Dairy Board on milk safety. You can, if still interested attend > and put your question straight to your real target. Thanks again, > > Regards, > Stephen > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* meshack emakunat <memakunat(a)yahoo.com> > *To:* smutoro(a)yahoo.com > *Cc:* Meshack <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:20 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] COFEK: Formalin in Milk > > Am sure most food scientist present in the list will find it amusing that > milk processors are adding formalin in milk for the purposes of > preservation.considering all the approved milk preservasion process like > packaging homoniginazation and pasturrization process that milk processors > invest in. Such accusation can damage a whole industry and its > dependents(farmers employees and other beneficiaries. I only wish that you > clarify which milk processors considering that there are many dozens of > milk processors from licenced to local unlicensed. Example we have kcc, > brookside,sameer and on the other hand distribution from farmer to > consumer(direct to consumer) without the value addition process which are > more likely to be the culprits ( maziwa ya ngombe) unlike. (Maziwa ya > packet) processed milk > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ------------------------------ > * From: * Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com>; > * To: * <memakunat(a)yahoo.com>; > * Cc: * KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>; > * Subject: * Re: [kictanet] COFEK: Formalin in Milk > * Sent: * Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:32:47 PM > > Dear Stephen, > > I feel sorry about your reply below to me. > > To be very honest with you, a lot of Kenyan consumers would respect you > (person and COFEK at large) more if you focused on dealing with such issues > and not passing the buck to consumers who send you alerts. > > I am actually very amazed that you refer to my consumer alert as a > "hear-say". > > Stephen, i really do wish COFEK the best. I am afraid, if you not have a > credible consumer protection strategy, COFEK may indirectly/directly lead > to consumer sabotage. > > NB: I have never communicated with COFEK on Facebook but only on email and > addressed to yourself. > > Muthoni > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM, stephen Mutoro <smutoro(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am sure we did reply to you. My office says that there was a reply and > especially on our Facebook page. Sorry if we didn't. But I am sure you will > appreciate that we can only do as much as our capacity can allow > considering we have no own laboratory; we are not funded by the taxpayer > and that we cannot act on hear-says. I wish you appreciated that this was > immediately on our website and lots of sensitization achieved > http://www.cofek.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1124:mi…, such issues are continuous as we held a Consumer Dialogue Forum on > food additive at InterContinental on September 12 and that issue was in my > remarks. The Chief Public Health Officer Dr Ombacho discounted the fears > and pledged investigations. Hope it suffices. Regards > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > *To:* smutoro(a)yahoo.com > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 5, 2013 3:42 PM > *Subject:* [kictanet] COFEK: Formalin in Milk > > I know milk has nothing to do with ICT but i shared this concern with > COFEK and they ignored it. Which consumers or issues do COFEK prefer to > deal with? Just asking for those saying they act for the public...... > > *See more below.. > * > > *Summary*: > > ======================================================================================================= > Dear Stephen, > > I have attended several presentations that have indicated that many milk > processing companies in Kenya are using formalin to preserve milk sold to > consumers. > > Formalin is a chemical normally used to preserve dead bodies. Formalin has > many negative impacts on human health. If it becomes part of food, it turns > into formic acid in human body and increases acidity level. More intake of > formalin can cause breathing problems, coma and even death. > > US Environment Protection Agency and International Agency for Research on > Cancer count formalin as one of the cancer-causing agents. > > Can COFEK try and investigate this. > > With so many deaths being reported from cancer and every urban dweller > entirely dependent on milk from the shops right from early childhood, we > are very exposed if this is actually true. > > Stephen, please advice if you shall investigate this further and protect > the consumer. > > I am sure you are also consuming these products every day. > > Regards, > Muthoni > > > ======================================================================================================= > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Dorcas Muthoni* <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: Formalin in Milk > To: hotline(a)cofek.co.ke > Cc: jack juma <jack(a)cofek.co.ke>, Theresia Watowa <theresia(a)cofek.co.ke> > > > Sorry, what else do you want to know? This last line is not clear. > > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) < > hotline(a)cofek.co.ke> wrote: > > ** > Ok but can we know who you please > Sent from my BlackBerry® > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > *Date: *Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:39:53 +0300 > *To: *<hotline(a)cofek.co.ke> > *Cc: *jack juma<jack(a)cofek.co.ke>; Theresia Watowa<theresia(a)cofek.co.ke> > *Subject: *Re: Formalin in Milk > > Stephen, > > I don't have evidence but Kenya Accreditation Service (KENAS) and KEBS > should be able to provide accountability because the milk producers are all > showing the KEBS logo for quality. > > I am a layman in this, just very concerned about because presentations are > coming from health and nutrition experts talking about this. > > Please try and see what you can do for the consumer. > > Many thanks, > Muthoni > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) < > hotline(a)cofek.co.ke> wrote: > > ** > It is being acted upon although you never provided any facts and > supporting evidence > Sent from my BlackBerry® > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > *Date: *Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:27:10 +0300 > *To: *<hotline(a)cofek.co.ke> > *Cc: *<stephen(a)cofek.co.ke> > *Subject: *Re: Formalin in Milk > > Dear Stephen, > > I thought COFEK would acknowledge receipt if this email and say whether is > an area you will look into or not. > > Regards, > Muthoni > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > Dear Stephen, > > I have attended several presentations that have indicated that many milk > processing companies in Kenya are using formalin to preserve milk sold to > consumers. > > Formalin is a chemical normally used to preserve dead bodies. Formalin has > many negative impacts on human health. If it becomes part of food, it turns > into formic acid in human body and increases acidity level. More intake of > formalin can cause breathing problems, coma and even death. > > US Environment Protection Agency and International Agency for Research on > Cancer count formalin as one of the cancer-causing agents. > > Can COFEK try and investigate this. > > With so many deaths being reported from cancer and every urban dweller > entirely dependent on milk from the shops right from early childhood, we > are very exposed if this is actually true. > > Stephen, please advice if you shall investigate this further and protect > the consumer. > > I am sure you are also consuming these products every day. > > Regards, > Muthoni > > > > > -- > Muthoni > > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ > -------------------------------------------- > Mahatma Gandhi once said:- > > First they ignore you, > Then they laugh at you, > Then they fight you, > AND THEN YOU WIN!!! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > Muthoni > > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ > -------------------------------------------- > Mahatma Gandhi once said:- > > First they ignore you, > Then they laugh at you, > Then they fight you, > AND THEN YOU WIN!!! > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smutoro%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Muthoni My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!

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The Post Office Fiasco Shows Why America Is Doomed - Lessons for Posta and Kenya?
by Ali Hussein 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

Listers An interesting article on where the Postal Services are going..the way of the Dinosaur? The United States Postal Service has made a perfectly sensible decision. In light of the move by most Americans to electronic mail and online bill pay, it will no longer deliver the post on Saturdays. The volume of mail has plummeted over the past five years, and the service is deep in the red. Taking Saturdays off will save it about $2 billion a year. It's a smart move. But the way it came about is a portent of doom. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/post-office-shows-why-america-is-doomed-2013… What lessons for Africa in general and Kenya in particular? Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad

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Vacancy in the CCK Board
by Davis Onsakia 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

FYI There is a vacancy at CCK Board. Interested candidates may apply to the PS at ps(a)information.go.ke Qualification: At least a first degree and a clear understanding of consumer issues in ICT. Many on this list I believe qualify. #InThePapers Best Regards, Davis M Onsakia "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time."

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Kenyan Senate: Why not in Konza?
by S.M. Muraya 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

The Kenyan Senate is to be developed for KES 6B in Nairobi? Why not in Konza? What plans are there for county teleconferencing & e-voting facilities? This, for .KE Senators who cannot travel to Nairobi (or Konza?) to participate in debates/discussions electronically. Note, this also provides electronic records of debates :)

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Kenya ICT Masterplan to be launched tomorrow
by Grace Githaiga 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

The Kenya ICT Board is set to launch Kenya’s four year ICT master plan. It projects that by 2017: 1. Every citizen, resident, home and institution will be connected through a countrywide robust, accessible and affordable ICT infrastructure. 2. Kenya will become the leading ICT HUB in Africa attracting leading global players and generating globally respected local entrepreneurship and innovation. 3. Public Services will be available to all citizens through ICT and ICT will enable a truly open and efficient Government delivering meaningful value to citizens. 4. Kenya will be a Knowledge Based Economy. All Kenyans will be able to use ICT to improve their knowledge, businesses and livelihood. ICT will contribute greatly to Kenya’s economic growth. http://www.wanjiku.co.ke/2013/02/kenya-ict-masterplan-to-be-launched-tomorr…

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