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Re: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill Viz Computer and Cyber Crimes Bill (Parliament) - Need for Harmonization
by Barrack Otieno 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Hi Nanjira, Alex and Listers, I have perused the bill and have the following observations: 1. This bill is Sponsored by Hon Mutahi Kagwe Chairman of the Senate ICT Commitee whereas the Computer and Cybercrimes bill is Sponsored by Leader of the Majority Hon Duale 2. Both bills share the same objective, i have observed that Hon Duale's bill which was discussed on KICTANET last week is more punitive (Fines in Millions) while Hon Kagwe's is lenient (Fines are in hundreds of thousands. 3. I have observed that the Cyber Security and Protection Bill leans a lot towards critical Internet Infrastructure whereas the Computer and Cyber Crimes Bill focuses on Cyber crime and Child Online Protection, however both bills have strong emphasis on Cyber Security. 4. The Cyber Security and Protection Bill justifies the need for Cyber Security laws within the county government framework. 5. Overall both are good attempts but there is need for harmonization. Best Regards On 8/3/16, Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Dear all, > > > > Please note that senate only needs to be involved on laws touching on > county > functions listed in schedule 4 of cok 2010 > <http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/167-schedules-schedul > es/fourth-schedule-distribution-of-functions-between-national-and-the-county > -governments/448-2-county-governments> > > > > My understanding is that cyber security is a national function > > > > Regards, > > > > Alex > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On > Behalf > Of henry--- via kictanet > Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 5:03 PM > To: awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk > Cc: henry(a)article19.org; Nanjira Sambuli <email(a)nanjira.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < > <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > To: <mailto:henry@article19.org> henry(a)article19.org > > Cc: "Nanjira Sambuli" < <mailto:email@nanjira.com> email(a)nanjira.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:49:03 PM > > Subject: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill > > > > Anyone familiar with the genesis of this bill? > > > <http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPr > otectionBill_2016.pdf> > http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPro > tectionBill_2016.pdf > > > > Wasnt aware of this version. It seems like the older version of the Bill > developed by the ODPP. > > > > Regards > > > > Henry > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Nanjira. > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/henry%40article19.org >> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/henry%40article19.org > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk >> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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How Barclays Aims to Bring a Billion Unbanked into the Fold
by Tony White 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

http://goo.gl/rcL1Yz Competition for mpesa? It appears blockchain technology will feature prominently in this. Who would have thought that Barclays would be the disruptive 'uber' of banking? Cheers, -- Tony White

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Re: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill
by henry＠article19.org 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: henry(a)article19.org Cc: "Nanjira Sambuli" <email(a)nanjira.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:49:03 PM Subject: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill Anyone familiar with the genesis of this bill? http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPr… Wasnt aware of this version. It seems like the older version of the Bill developed by the ODPP. Regards Henry Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/henry%40article19.org The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill
by Nanjira Sambuli 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

Anyone familiar with the genesis of this bill? http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPr… Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone.

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Re: [kictanet] Looking to aquire a registered firm with a Content Service Providers License from CA
by Barrack Otieno 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

Dear Listers, Would you know of anyone/company who has this license from the Communications Authority and might want to sell his Business. Kindly get in touch offlist. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Annual Computing Career Congress for High School Girls
by Dorcas Muthoni 03 Aug '16

03 Aug '16

Hi KICTANET Members, I wish to take this opportunity to announce our upcoming Annual Computing Career Congress for High School Girls to be held on *24th September 2016* at* The Catholic University of Eastern Africa (CUEA)*. Since 2004, Afchix Kenya (formerly LinuxChix Kenya) has been hosting the Annual Computing and Mentorship Career Workshop for High School Girls at The Catholic University of Eastern Africa (CUEA). The program is aimed at inspiring high school girls to take up careers in Information Technology (IT) and Computer Science. This year’s event will bring together successful women in tech to share their achievements and experiences with over 500 girls from various schools in Kenya for role modelling. We would like to invite you to participate or support the event this year by choosing any of following: *SPONSORSHIP CATEGORIES* 1. GIRLS IN TECH EMPEROR - Sponsorship Value of Kshs. 300,000/ 2. GIRLS IN TECH WARRIOR - Sponsorship Value of Kshs. 200,000/ 3. GIRLS IN TECH MORAN - Sponsorship Value of Kshs. 100,000/ 4. GIRLS IN TECH CHAMPION - Sponsorship Value Kshs. 50,000/ *SPONSORSHIP IN KIND* 1. PC Computer Award for best performing school in an easy competition on “How Mobile Phones Can Be Used As Learning Devices”. 2. Ipad/Tablet for the principal of the best performing school in KCSE Computer Studies, Physics and Mathematics results for the last 3 years for participating schools. 3. Laptop for the teacher with the biggest number of best performing students in KCSE Computer Studies, Physics and Mathematics results for the last 3 years for participating schools. 4. Give aways e.g bags, notebooks, pens, tshirts, water etc 5. Volunteer as a career mentor during the event. Both men and women are welcome to this. 6. Demos how various technology solutions work to the students. We shall provide demo stands. *Your benefits will include:* ● An opportunity to send topmost women mentor to make a presentation during the event ● An exhibition table to demonstrate your technology solutions work to the students ● Complimentary space for women mentors from your staff to attend the event ● Company Logo on the event publicity materials ● Publicity in the AfChix webpage ● Certificate of recognition Help us impact and influence the girls who do very well in their KCSE examinations but often opt to pursue other disciplines as well as prepare our country and continent with a diverse ICT workforce. Let all us keep paying it forward! Please get in touch with me on how to join us via email or on 0722 494015. -- Muthoni My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!

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Re: [kictanet] Computer and Cyber Crimes bill 2016 Conclusion of Online discussions
by Barrack Otieno 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

Listers, We would like to conclude the five day discussion on the Cyber Crimes Bill. Many thanks to those who have taken their time to share their views on the bill over the five day period. We will summarize the issues and submit a report on the list. We will share the same with the Ministry. Feel free to submit any more comments on the bill as we finalize our report. Thank you Best Regards Barrack and Karis On 8/1/16, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Our sincere apologies as we were unable to post this topic on Friday. Thank > you for your continued contribution on the previous topics, feel free to > still comment on them under their respective mail stream. > > This section is made up of the following sub-sections: > 1 — Short title > 2 — Interpretation > 3 — Objects of the Act > > You can access the bill here: http://www.mygov.go.ke/?p=11234 or download > the attached document. > > > The Concerns > 1. Are you okay with the title of this Act? If no, what is your > suggestions? > 2. On the interpretation part, is there any word that you feel has not been > interpreted in the right manner? If yes, kindly state it and along with > your preferred definition. > 3. Do you think this act has exhausted all the objects required to > effectively carry out cyber-crimes investigation and prosecution? > 4. Is there any other concern you have regarding this part? Feel free to > raise it under this mail stream. > > We are looking forward to a fruitful discussion on the above concerns and > much more. > > Thank you. > Barrack and Karis. > > > Best Regards, > > Kelvin Kariuki > Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris > Alt email: kkariuki(a)mmu.ac.ke > Mobile: +2547 29 385 557 > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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ICT Policy - KICTAnet Validation Workshop- Tue 26th July, 8:00-12:30pm, Strathmore University
by Walubengo J 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

Dear Listers, Further to the ICT policy discussions we had a few weeks ago, we are happy to announce that he PS, ICT & Innovations, Victor Kyalo has agreed to grace the KICTANet Validation workshop scheduled for next week, Tues 26th July 2016, 8:00-12:30pm at the Strathmore University. Those wishing to attend are therefore advised to register atKenya ICT Policy 2016 validation meeting | | | Kenya ICT Policy 2016 validation meeting Kenya is developing a new ICT Policy to replace the one of 2006. The public was invitate to give input to the dr... | | | Limited spaces available, so the earlier you register the better (first come first serve) with priority ofcourse to those who made an actual contribution/post. After all, they are coming to validate or enhance the same. Best regards and hope to see you there. Walu & Barrack,for KICTAnet

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E-sports: Technology and Sports
by Mildred Achoch 02 Aug '16

02 Aug '16

Hi all, This may be of interest: Is it time for eSports gamers to be recognised as athletes? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/08/esports-pro-video-gamers… Regards, Mildred Achoch.

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away
by ngethe.kariuki2007 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Listers, If ICT has no legal definition, it is then not unreasonable to conclude that what is going on is actually of no legal consequence and is an exercise in futility. John Kariuki. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Stellar Murumba via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: Stellar Murumba <nstellarnelly(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away I like Tony's point On Monday, 1 August 2016, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: John, 'ICT' cannot be simply defined - it is the glue which now binds all aspects of business and personal life. We are ALL 'ICT Practitioners' - which is why the current attempt to legislate must fail. It is as nonsensical as introducing an 'Oxygen Breathers' bill, requiring all breathers of oxygen to be licenced annually with the 'Oxygen Breathers Board' Cheers, Tony On 01/08/2016, ngethe.kariuki2007 via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers, > I have in the past on this list intimated that I have yet to find a legal > definition of ICT.I have reason to believe that there is none unless advised > otherwise by someone knowledgeable on the subject. If my understanding is > correct, how then can anyone purport to legislate on a subject which has no > legal definition? > > John Kariuki > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: > To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk > Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Its a shame indeed, we have a habit of leaders reaping where they did > not sow, i am glad with the new constitutional dispensation there is > no room for such leaders who happen to be erstwhile tenderpreneurs who > reap at the expense of hardworking innovators, the ICT community > should step up its game and say no to such leadership, time to take > full control of the sector including the leaders we send to Parliament > . > Its a pity that the legislators claim they are not in a position to > help stakeholders as reported, i think we should send the correct > message they normally understand and send them out of bunge using > twitter, 2017 is a few months away. > > Regards > > Regards > > On 8/1/16, Elizabeth Rossiello via kictanet > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> I had a very frightening conversation on Thursday, where a >> self-proclaimed >> "Tech Person" and leader of a business networking association declared the >> following: >> >> - "The techies of Kenya were getting out of control and taking over the >> direction of the country without supervision" >> - "Private businesses should choose their employees with the help of the >> government (via this bill's licensing and certification)" >> - "Kenya is happy to be the only country in the world [besides Ethiopia] >> with such stringent measures because it is a leader" >> -"Doctors need to be licensed and so do Techies" >> >> ... when I responded that I would have to fire 8 young Kenyan female >> employees who are well-paid and highly competent because they don't have >> the appropriate license, they said "the government should be involved in >> who you can hire." >> >> I was shocked at the misinformation and views. This is akin to the way >> Trump supporters spew misinformation they receive from Fox News. Most of >> it seems to stem from a lack of knowledge on what defines a "techie" and >> what they are and are not capable of. It seems as some people think there >> is an army of robots about to take over this country from the innocents. >> >> Who has been driving this narrative? >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Watila Alex via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> they are not being honest. >>> >>> based on the views they have received they can recommend its withdrawal. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>> >>> On Mon, 1 Aug, 2016 at 9:50, Tony White via kictanet >>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Our-hands-tied-in-ICT-Bill/996-3324824-5ha… >>> >>> We need a proper public consultation on this, in the same way as the >>> current Cybercrimes bill, and the recent ICT policy. >>> >>> Just another thought that has not so far been raised: Engineers are >>> also 'ICT Practitioners', so are some lawyers, so are some doctors, so >>> are many other professions, which each already have their own >>> registration. So they now must ALSO be registered as ICT >>> practitioners? >>> >>> -- >>> Tony White >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/elizabeth%40bitpesa.co >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth Rossiello >> CEO and Co-Founder >> *BitPESA* >> Nigeria: +234 909 345 4135 >> Kenya: +254 710 891 851 >> Skype: erossiello >> > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254733206359 > Skype: barrack.otieno > PGP ID: 0x2611D86A > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Tony White _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nstellarnelly%40gmail… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away
by ngethe.kariuki2007 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Listers, I have in the past on this list intimated that I have yet to find a legal definition of ICT.I have reason to believe that there is none unless advised otherwise by someone knowledgeable on the subject. If my understanding is correct, how then can anyone purport to legislate on a subject which has no legal definition? John Kariuki Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away Hi Elizabeth, Its a shame indeed, we have a habit of leaders reaping where they did not sow, i am glad with the new constitutional dispensation there is no room for such leaders who happen to be erstwhile tenderpreneurs who reap at the expense of hardworking innovators, the ICT community should step up its game and say no to such leadership, time to take full control of the sector including the leaders we send to Parliament . Its a pity that the legislators claim they are not in a position to help stakeholders as reported, i think we should send the correct message they normally understand and send them out of bunge using twitter, 2017 is a few months away. Regards Regards On 8/1/16, Elizabeth Rossiello via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > I had a very frightening conversation on Thursday, where a self-proclaimed > "Tech Person" and leader of a business networking association declared the > following: > > - "The techies of Kenya were getting out of control and taking over the > direction of the country without supervision" > - "Private businesses should choose their employees with the help of the > government (via this bill's licensing and certification)" > - "Kenya is happy to be the only country in the world [besides Ethiopia] > with such stringent measures because it is a leader" > -"Doctors need to be licensed and so do Techies" > > ... when I responded that I would have to fire 8 young Kenyan female > employees who are well-paid and highly competent because they don't have > the appropriate license, they said "the government should be involved in > who you can hire." > > I was shocked at the misinformation and views. This is akin to the way > Trump supporters spew misinformation they receive from Fox News. Most of > it seems to stem from a lack of knowledge on what defines a "techie" and > what they are and are not capable of. It seems as some people think there > is an army of robots about to take over this country from the innocents. > > Who has been driving this narrative? > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Watila Alex via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> they are not being honest. >> >> based on the views they have received they can recommend its withdrawal. >> >> regards, >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >> >> On Mon, 1 Aug, 2016 at 9:50, Tony White via kictanet >> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Our-hands-tied-in-ICT-Bill/996-3324824-5ha… >> >> We need a proper public consultation on this, in the same way as the >> current Cybercrimes bill, and the recent ICT policy. >> >> Just another thought that has not so far been raised: Engineers are >> also 'ICT Practitioners', so are some lawyers, so are some doctors, so >> are many other professions, which each already have their own >> registration. So they now must ALSO be registered as ICT >> practitioners? >> >> -- >> Tony White >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/elizabeth%40bitpesa.co >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Elizabeth Rossiello > CEO and Co-Founder > *BitPESA* > Nigeria: +234 909 345 4135 > Kenya: +254 710 891 851 > Skype: erossiello > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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INTERNET and YOUTH RADICALIZATION
by Stephen Machua 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Dear Listers, I have been tasked by UNESCO Mahatma Gandhi Institute of Education for Peace and Sustainable Development to moderate discussions on the link between INTERNET and YOUTH RADICALIZATION. This topic is of great importance to us as Kenyans owing to the recent developments on Cyber Space. I'm requesting for your kind contribution on this topic either through this list or via their Facebook Page "UNESCO MGIEP" <https://web.facebook.com/mgiep> You can also apply to participate in their conference on the same 19-20 September 2016 in New Delhi, India via this link: http://bit.ly/UNESCOMGIEP ,Application Deadline; 5th August 2016. Looking forward to your kind contributions. Kind regards, *Stephen Machua*

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ICT Bill is not going away
by Tony White 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Our-hands-tied-in-ICT-Bill/996-3324824-5ha… We need a proper public consultation on this, in the same way as the current Cybercrimes bill, and the recent ICT policy. Just another thought that has not so far been raised: Engineers are also 'ICT Practitioners', so are some lawyers, so are some doctors, so are many other professions, which each already have their own registration. So they now must ALSO be registered as ICT practitioners? -- Tony White

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away
by arebacollins 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Is it possible to seek judicial intervention should it sneak its way into being signed? Considering the threshold of public participation it had Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: Alex Watila via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 01/08/2016 1:03 pm (GMT+03:00) To: arebacollins(a)gmail.com Cc: Alex Watila <awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away Bomu et al,The stakeholders need to push for its complete withdrawal instead of amendment since it does not have the support of majority of the stakeholders. The committee is allowed to recommend the withdrawal of the bill on the basis of the submissions received. Regards, Alex From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 12:48 PM To: awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away KICTANet together with others (KEPSA, TESPOK, BAKE, KITOS, iHub) presented a memorandum to the Energy and ICT Committee opposing the Bill on 26th July. We were advised about the process of withdrawal of a Bill, which is that only the sponsor can withdraw it, with the leave of the Speaker. We nevertheless presented our memorandum and our position was similar to the Ministry's position- that the Bill is not grounded on sound policy and should be withdrawn.Committee insisted that they had 21 days in which to report back the Bill. They asked for proposals to amend what we thought were problematic clauses and there was another hearing before the committee on 28th July. Committee is still discussing stakeholder views before reporting back the Bill. Regards, 2016-08-01 12:11 GMT+03:00 John Gitau via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>:For this particular ICT bill. No known engagement has happened.Jgitau On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:Apologies in advance for my ignorance-What kind of formal or informal engagement has happened related to the ICT bill? From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+ebeleokobi=fb.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: "awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk" <awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 at 8:08 AM To: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> Cc: Watila Alex <awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Bill is not going away they are not being honest. based on the views they have received they can recommend its withdrawal. regards,Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, 1 Aug, 2016 at 9:50, Tony White via kictanet<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Our-hands-tied-in-ICT-Bill/996-3324824-5haiq1/index.html We need a proper public consultation on this, in the same way as the current Cybercrimes bill, and the recent ICT policy. Just another thought that has not so far been raised: Engineers are also 'ICT Practitioners', so are some lawyers, so are some doctors, so are many other professions, which each already have their own registration. So they now must ALSO be registered as ICT practitioners? -- Tony White _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanetUnsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jgitau%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- **Gitau _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu> PGP ID : 0x33A3450F

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Computer and Cyber Crimes bill 2016 Day 5 of 5 Part I Preliminaries
by Kelvin Kariuki 01 Aug '16

01 Aug '16

Dear Listers, Our sincere apologies as we were unable to post this topic on Friday. Thank you for your continued contribution on the previous topics, feel free to still comment on them under their respective mail stream. This section is made up of the following sub-sections: 1 — Short title 2 — Interpretation 3 — Objects of the Act You can access the bill here: http://www.mygov.go.ke/?p=11234 or download the attached document. The Concerns 1. Are you okay with the title of this Act? If no, what is your suggestions? 2. On the interpretation part, is there any word that you feel has not been interpreted in the right manner? If yes, kindly state it and along with your preferred definition. 3. Do you think this act has exhausted all the objects required to effectively carry out cyber-crimes investigation and prosecution? 4. Is there any other concern you have regarding this part? Feel free to raise it under this mail stream. We are looking forward to a fruitful discussion on the above concerns and much more. Thank you. Barrack and Karis. Best Regards, Kelvin Kariuki Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris Alt email: kkariuki(a)mmu.ac.ke Mobile: +2547 29 385 557

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Kenya Internet Governance Forum 2016 Draft Programme and Online Registration
by Barrack Otieno 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

Dear Listers, The Kenya Internet Governance Forum will be held on 12 August 2016 at the Laico Regency Hotel from 8.00 am to 5.00 pm. The theme of the Forum will be 'Enabling Inclusive and Sustainable Growth'. Attached please find the draft programme. In addition you can register online at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kenya-igf-2016-tickets-26819331342 We have limited places and would like you to register as soon as possible. Online discussions will start on 8th August and end on 11th August 2016. The meeting will also be webcast, we shall be providing streaming details in due course as well. We look forward to your contribution and participation. on behalf of the Multi Stakeholder Advisory Group -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Re: [kictanet] Africa's KINGS countries
by Wangari Kabiru 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

Blessed Saturday! The next call is for the "Central Banks" to turn a blind eye or pluck an eye for innovations relating to Diaspora money remittance. Even with the increased options, the cost is too high swallowing up the real money that gets into the hands of recipients in developing countries or reducing the true value of each of the many low value amounts sent in (inter currency exhanges included). Blessed day. Regards/Wangari On Jul 30, 2016 13:07, Mildred Achoch via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > > Interesting read! The K.I.N.G.S. are Kenya,Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa. > > > > "This is happening within an enabling policy environment that is pro-innovation; for example, the M-Pesa innovation in Kenya happened because someone at the central bank turned a blind eye. " > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 30, 2016, Eric Osiakwan via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> http://qz.com/744284/africas-kings-countries-will-drive-the-continents-tech… >> >> >> >> Eric here >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! > > http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com > > > >

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Africa's KINGS countries
by Eric Osiakwan 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

http://qz.com/744284/africas-kings-countries-will-drive-the-continents-tech… Eric here Sent from my iPhone

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Computer and Cyber crimes bill 2016 Day 1 of 5 Part 2 Offences
by Barrack Otieno 30 Jul '16

30 Jul '16

Listers, As announced last week, online discussions on the Computer and Cybercrimes bill 2016 will start today. The Computer and Cybercrimes bill can be accessed using the following link http://www.mygov.go.ke/?p=11234. Today we focus on part II of the bill which focuses on the offences: Questions 1. Does the section address computer and cyber crime related offenses in a comprehensive manner and according to International standards ? 2. If it does not can you point out areas that need to be incorporated into the bill? 3. Are there clauses in this section that will impede the growth of electronic commerce or affect online citizen participation as seen on Kenyans on Twitter (KOT) ? If that is the case , how should the same be phrased? 4. Do you have any other proposals that can be incorporated into part 2 to improve it? We welcome your feedback on the questions above, Thank you Kelvin and Barrack -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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On Cybersecurity: Mapping Civil Society Actors
by Nanjira Sambuli 29 Jul '16

29 Jul '16

Thank you to all who’ve pinged me on the side in an individual/organisational capacity. We will be sharing preliminary findings of the mapping exercise at the IGF on the 12th. In the meantime, if any other organisation here (including development partners, funders) is working on cyber security issues in any capacity, do get in touch. Would like to ensure we have as inclusive a mapping as possible. > On 27 Jul 2016, at 12:00, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. On Cybersecurity: Mapping Civil Society Actors (Nanjira Sambuli) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:56:20 +0300 > From: Nanjira Sambuli <email(a)nanjira.com> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] On Cybersecurity: Mapping Civil Society Actors > Message-ID: <E1A1518A-480B-404A-A016-740C6634E184(a)nanjira.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi folks, as we discuss the Cybersecurity Bill, please ping me separately if you work on cybersecurity issues at any level, as civil society actors. Finalising a mapping study of actors in the landscape. > > Thanks to KICTANet, Article 19 and CIPIT for their responses. If there are others represented here doing important work in the space, tafadhali let me know :) > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > www.nanjira.com <http://www.nanjira.com/> > > About.Me <http://about.me/ninanjira>| Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/ninanjira>| LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nanjira>| Skype <http://hatscripts.com/addskype?nanjirasambuli> > IM: +254722481566 (WhatsApp | Telegram | iMessage) > > > > > >

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Invitation for an ICT Forum at Strathmore University
by Ronald Mweu 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

Hello Listers, The HSBS Group Nairobi, I hope this finds you well. The HSBS Group Kenya is inviting you for a giant ICT Forum above to be held at Strathmore University Auditorium on the 29th of July 2016. The theme of the Forum is “GOVERNANCE AND FRAUD PREVENTION". The theme should help you have knowledge of the available opportunities in ICT, in the ever changing world thus enable you make informed choices. Attending the Forum will be the right decision regarding your future and ICT education. Being a delegate at this prestigious event offers you a wealth of advantages such as: Face-to-Face personal access and interaction with top decisions makers and other delegates. The opportunity to feature and demonstrate your ICT ideas and get mentored on the same.Meet and find other students and ICT practitioners. Creating links and understanding to the ever growing ICT environment. Please find attached, your official invitation. For more details please call Gladys on 0714009133 or send an Email to The HSBS Group; nairobi(a)thehsbsgroup.com Looking forward to a successful and productive forum. See you on Friday

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Internet Society Kenya Chapter AGM this Saturday 30th July 2016, from 2pm to 5pm
by Mentor Ida 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

Dear Listers, Please confirm your attendance URGENTLY for the Internet Society Kenya Chapter AGM this Saturday 30th July 2016, from 2pm to 5pm, at iHub Research, 2nd floor, Bishop Magua Centre, opposite Uchumi Hyper, along Ngong Road. Humbly, if too busy or held up, kindly just come & register then leave, we need your signature as endorsement to adopt the new Constitution, thus getting our Chapter, back to its normal operation status. Thanks in advance. Best Regards Eng. Martin Obuya President/Chairman ISOC Kenya Best, Ida Ida Ng'ang'a Director, Strategic Partnerships Regional Consortium for Development (RCD Africa) Member: Internet Society (ISOC) New York and Kenya Member: National AGOA Committee Ministry of Foreign Affairs & International Trade Representative: AU Chapter - Kenya Representative: Copenhagen Consensus Founder: Association of Young Professionals and Entrepreneurs Founder: Global Network of Young Women Leaders Commissioner for Gender - African Youth Commission Prolific Woman 2015 by Mara Foundation and United Nations. Leaders in Kenya Award 2014 & 2015. Runner Up: Timeless Woman Governance Award. Nominee: Duke of Edinburgh CSC Global Leaders. Civil Society Spokesperson: Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Conflict. www.rced.org www.about.me/ida.mentor Cell: +254 728848811 / +254 771726925 Email: idanganga@gmail.com/ida.nganga@rced.org

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Computer and Cyber crimes bill 2016 Day 2 of 5 Part III Investigation Procedures
by Kelvin Kariuki 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

Dear Listers, Thank you for your contribution on yesterdays discussions on the offences, feel free to still comment on it under that mail stream posted by Barrack yesterday. Today we discuss the Investigation Procedures of this bill. It outlines the powers and procedures to be followed by the authorities in carrying out computer and cyber related offences investigations. This section touches on pertinent issues as outlined below: 20 — Scope of procedural provisions 21 — Search and seizure of stored computer data 22 — Power to search without a warrant in special circumstances 23 — Record of and access to seized data 24 — Production order 25 — Expedited preservation and partial disclosure of traffic data 26 — Real-time collection of traffic data 27 — Interception of content data 28 — Obstruction and misuse 29 — Appeal 30 — Confidentiality and limitation of liability You can access the bill here: http://www.mygov.go.ke/?p=11234 or download the attached document. *The Concerns* 1. To what extent are the service providers supposed to disclose their client data to the authorities? 2. Does any of the search or seizure powers given to authorities in this section violate any privacy rights enshrined in our constitution? 3. Has this part extensively covered all the investigation procedures required for all the offences stated in part II? 4. Does it match the international standards? If it does not, kindly point out areas that need to be incorporated into the bill. N/B: Feel free to raise any concern or question not suggested here. We are looking forward to your feedback on the above concerns and much more. Thank you. Barrack and Karis. -- Best Regards, Kelvin Kariuki Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris Alt email: kkariuki(a)mmu.ac.ke Mobile: +2547 29 385 557

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Prevailing clause
by Alfred Kinyua 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

This might bring about a sharp contrast between county and national laws, (though most counties are yet to develop any on ICT cyber crime), counties in Kenya envisage themselves as autonomous and as so might want to litigate internally. I think the Prevailing Clause act should be clear and specific enough to highlight its scope.

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Computer and Cyber Crimes bill 2016 Day 4 of 5 Part IV General Provisions
by Kelvin Kariuki 28 Jul '16

28 Jul '16

Dear Listers, Thank you for your contribution on the previous days discussions, feel free to still comment on them under their respective mail stream. Today we discuss Part IV on General Provisions withing the bill, this part outlines the following sub-sections: 40 — Territorial jurisdiction 41 — Forfeiture 42 — Prevailing clause 43 — Consequential amendments 44 — Regulations You can access the bill here: http://www.mygov.go.ke/?p=11234 or download the attached document. The Concern 1. The Prevailing Clause states ~ "Whenever there is a conflict between this Act and any other law regarding cybercrimes, the provisions of this Act shall supersede any such other law." What does this really imply? 2. Is there any other concern you want to raise on this part? If Yes, please feel free to highlight it on this mail stream. We are looking forward to your discussions on this topic. Thank you. Barrack and Karis. -- Best Regards, Kelvin Kariuki Twitter Handle: @teacherkaris Alt email: kkariuki(a)mmu.ac.ke Mobile: +2547 29 385 557

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