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Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in Keny
by wesley kiriinya 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

To make it clearer. I am not embarassed by people questioning how much of Kenya is run by foreigners. I'm embarrased by how it's being done. For example I don't think it's appropriate to mention/imply in a public forum that someone is a foreigner therefore they can't do this or that. In my humble opinion if I post in this forum I'm communicating with anonymous people from other parts of the world not just Kenya and that's why I wrote "...as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion..." Quoting Saidi: "...it's a question of building, maintaing and protecting local capacity..." Refer to a lot of my posts. E.g. the recent one on Expensive Software systems. I understand this issue. It's a shame to Kenya, but is the governemnt/parliament to blame or is it foreigners or is it both? "...One of the key requirements, forced on poor countries by the IMF and the World Bank, centered on privatization and deregulation, even if the poor countries had no capacity to compete with foreign firms flush with cash..." I have heard a lot about similar statements and I have started to have my doubts about such organizations. So don't assume that I support their actions. Regards. --- On Sun, 7/13/08, saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in Keny To: kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 12:40 PM Wesley, You miss the point of these discussions. Whether they are embarassing or not isn't the issue; it's a question of building, maintaing and protecting local capacity. > > Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would > have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.) > Have you heard of SAPs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_adjustment_program)? One of the key requirements, forced on poor countries by the IMF and the World Bank, centered on privatization and deregulation, even if the poor countries had no capacity to compete with foreign firms flush with cash. You should read "Globalization and its Discontents" by the Nobel-prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz for the inside scoop. What we are experiencing right now in the ICT and Telecom industries is a direct result of what the book describes. So instead of being embarassed by this thread, perhaps you should react differently? Let me put it another way: would you have been too embarassed to join the Mau Mau and fight the British colonialists? Since de-facto foreign ownership and domination of the local economy is also colonialism (neo-colonialism), why are you ashamed to "join the fight"? Or is that too "uncivilised"? Decades later, when you grand-children ask you where you when foreigners virtualy re-colonized Kenya, what will you say? That you were too embarassed to "join the fight"? Don't kid yourself: there will be no real and lasting development if the agenda is set and controlled by non-Kenyans, it's as simple as that. I hope you'll take this email for what it is: a friendly conversation from a fellow Kenyan and ICT colleague who respects your work in the gaming industry, and ICT at large. Saidi On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would > have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.) > > If there is a higher appointing authority that picks these so called > foreigners over Kenyans then it's them to blame (if there is a good reason). > > That said, as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion. Sorry to > say but it is embarrassing to read some of these posts. > > Regards. >

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FW: [wougnet] [UgaBYTES] RIU Innovation Challenge Fund
by Harry Hare 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

My apologies for cross-posting. Harry -----Original Message----- From: wougnet-l-bounces(a)wougnet.org [mailto:wougnet-l-bounces@wougnet.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Caicedo (by way of Dorothy Okello <dokello(a)wougnet.org>) Sent: 11 July 2008 17:25 To: WOUGNET Mailing List Subject: [wougnet] [UgaBYTES] RIU Innovation Challenge Fund FYI, Silvia ============================== Call for funding Second RIU Call for Proposals - Innovation Challenge Fund: Phase 2 Africa The purpose of the African Innovation Challenge Fund (African ICF) is to provide financial support to teams so they can take promising research, funded by DFID, to the next stage of use. The selected initiatives will contribute to RIU's purpose by delivering significant use of RNRRS and other natural resources research outputs for the benefit (direct or indirect) of poor men and women in different contexts. The first RIU call issued in 2007 focused on target countries in S and S.E. Asia (India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Cambodia, Vietnam) and the response demonstrated that there were many entry points for scaling up RNRRS research knowledge. However the subsequent lesson learning study on the Asian challenge fund process indicated that, the scope of the call may have been too broad, creating wide expectations which the challenge fund was unable to fulfill. The RIU management team have therefore decided to focus the Africa call on two key elements which we feel are critical in getting research into use and from which lessons can be drawn for decision makers. These two elements are 1) novel communication methods and 2) public-private partnerships which can stimulate the use of natural resource technologies and processes produced by DFID research activities for the benefit of large numbers of people. More information on these focal areas and the context of the African ICF can be found in the guidance notes (available in English and in French) The RIU Innovation Challenge Fund Africa will focus on the following countries in sub Saharan Africa: Ghana, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, S.Africa plus three Francophone countries- Senegal, Mali and Niger (Total 10 countries). Other countries in Africa e.g. Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi and Nigeria are involved in RIU country programmes under another RIU component -component 1.2- Enhancing Demand. To avoid duplication of effort these six countries are not the primary focus of the African ICF. They may be considered for funding where regional initiatives exist but we stress that in this call we wish to focus on the ten countries which have been highlighted above. The guidance notes and application forms are available in English and French, although we kindly request that applications are submitted in English to assist selection procedures. Any questions or queries should be directed to the RIU Grants and Policy co-ordinator Lucy Nickoll L.nickoll(a)nrint.co.uk Closing date for submission of Concept Notes: Monday, 1st September, 12 noon (GMT+1) If you are interested in this call, please view the following documents: 1. Concept Note Application Form (English) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/African_CN_english.doc> 2. Concept Note Application Form (French) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/African_CN_francais.doc> 3. Guidance Notes (English) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/Africa_guidance_notes_v5_english.d oc> 4. Guidance Notes (French) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/Africa_guidance_notes_v5_Francais. doc> 5. Natural <http://www.researchintouse.com/index.php?section=16&subsection=49> Resources Knowledge Database 6. RIU Logframe <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/RIU_Logframe_June_2007.doc> 7. RIU Data Management Guideline <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/RIU_Data_management_guidelines.pdf > Please also see our website; www.researchintouse.com _______________________________________________ ugabytes mailing list ugabytes(a)lists.ugabytes.org http://lists.ugabytes.org/mailman/listinfo/ugabytes_lists.ugabytes.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 11/07/2008 06:47

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[Fwd: Orange to Launch iPhone in Kenya]
by alice 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Sorry if this is already old news .... Orange to Launch 3G iPhone in Kenya http://www.apple.com/iphone/countries/ke/ -- Joe Mucheru

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Experts' warnings of web's future
by wesley kiriinya 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Good people, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/7466085.stm In summary the first part of the article (what I was interested in) talks about how platforms are taking over the net and are squeezing out the liberty to develop apps that use the net. Platforms include facebook, google apps and apple. One of the main arguments is that e.g. in Facebook the developer has to agree to the terms of the platform which might not be very favourable. "...[There are] rights to charge the makers of applications for the privilege of allowing that application to continue to exist on Facebook at any rate Facebook chooses. Rights to terminate any application that they don't like, for any reason..." Good Weekend. Ohh, almost forgot Sent from my Dell Inspiron 1520 8~D

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FW: [administrators-en] Vacancy announcement: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator
by Edith Adera 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

_____ From: Rambaldi, G. [mailto:Rambaldi@cta.int] Sent: jeudi 10 juillet 2008 08:08 To: Dgroups administrator peer support Subject: [administrators-en] Vacancy announcement: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> Vacancy announcement Summary Job title: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator Location: Wageningen, the Netherlands Employment: Full-time and long-term international position; possibility to start under a consultancy contract Area: Agricultural science and development Education: University degree in the field of communication sciences or related discipline Experience: 5 10 years in ICT4D domain Introduction The Technical Centre for Agricultural and Rural <http://www.cta.int/> Cooperation (CTA) is an ACP-EU organisation established under the Lomé Convention, now succeeded by the Cotonou Agreement, between the EU and African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) states. CTAs tasks are to develop and provide services that improve access to information for agricultural and rural development, and to strengthen the capacity of ACP countries to produce, acquire, exchange and utilise information in these areas. Information and communication technologies (ICTs) are widely regarded as enabling tools in fighting poverty and achieving the Millennium Development Goals when these are integrated into development policies and programmes. The current rapid pace of innovation in ICTs is therefore significant and worthy of note as benefits may accrue to a growing number of organisations and individuals based in the developing world. Free or low-cost, simple, internet-based services are now available to the general public which make effective online collaboration a reality. Web 2.0 is the name given to this new dimension of on-line services, where people and communities collaborate and share information. CTAs mandate puts emphasis on facilitating access, exchange and dissemination of information in the fields of agriculture and rural development. Therefore, many Web 2.0 applications play a key role in its own strategies and programmes. Responsibilities Working closely with the members of the ICT Innovation Team and reporting to the head of department, the incumbent will carry out the following activities: (i) Contribute to the interdepartmental efforts towards improving (a) CTA internal ICT/ICM systems; (b) capacity in using in-house software applications; and (c) adoption of innovative ICT/ICM by ACP stakeholders; (ii) Establish and run a permanent ICT Observatory focusing on ICT4D and Web 2.0 innovations; (iii) Contribute to the testing, appraisal, eventual promotion and adoption of innovative ICT4D and Web 2.0 applications within CTA and among CTA partner organisations; (iv) Assist CTA partners in developing project proposals. (v) Manage the projects cycle including programming, processing, administration and evaluation phases; (vi) Liaise with development agencies and partners on collaborative work related to ICT4D and Web 2.0 initiatives; (vii) Contribute to the development of strategies and action plans; (viii) Implement other tasks as requested by CTAs Director and the Head of Department. Requirements (i) A university degree in communication sciences or related discipline. (ii) 5 - 10 years of relevant professional experience in the ICT4D domain (international experience will be an advantage) as well as exposure to the full project cycle (i.e., programming, project processing to project administration); (iii) Experienced and having keen interest in ICT4D in the contexts of African Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) countries and preferably in the sectors of agriculture, rural development and natural resource management. (iv) Proficient in the use of a range of innovative ICTs. These may include mobile PC-based ICTs, phone (SMS) and SMS to web technologies and broadcasting. Eager to discover and explore ICT combinations appropriate to CTA working contexts. (v) Proficient in web publishing and/or video-editing and in the use of Web 2.0 applications including among others social networking, blogging, vlogging, podcasting, use of wikis and remote collaboration solutions, collaborative tagging and more; (vi) Experienced team worker. Encourages cooperation within and between teams and promotes the value of diversity in teams, such as in different views, culture, nationality, and gender. (vii) Proficient in word processing, spreadsheets and presentation software; (viii) Excellent oral and written communication skills in English or French and ability to work in the other language. (ix) Good organisational, inter-personal and communication skills in a multi-cultural working environment; international experience is an asset; (x) National of either a European Union member state or of one of the 79 ACP (Africa, Caribbean, and Pacific) States. Employment package A range of benefits, including private pension and health insurance scheme will support an attractive tax-exempt salary. Procedure Qualifying candidates are invited to forward before August 8th, 2008: - One-page motivational letter explaining why he/she qualifies for this position; - Curriculum Vitae; - Scanned copies of relevant diplomas and certificates; - Full contact details of three referees. Please quote the source of the advertisement. Please note that only candidates under serious consideration will receive written notice of the selection process. Mr. Jean-Claude Burguet CTA - Head of Administration, Budget and Human Resources Department Ref: ICT4D P.O. Box 380 6700 AJ Wageningen The Netherlands Fax: +31 317 46 71 78 E-mail: Burguet(a)cta.int Dgroups is a joint initiative of Bellanet, DFID, Hivos, ICA, ICCO, IICD, OneWorld, UNAIDS and World Bank --- You are currently subscribed to administrators-en as: rthioune(a)idrc.org.sn To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-administrators-en-245890K(a)dgroups.org Dgroups is a joint initiative of Bellanet, DFID, Hivos, ICA, ICCO, IICD, OneWorld, UNAIDS and World Bank --- You are currently subscribed to administrators-en as: rthioune(a)idrc.org.sn To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-administrators-en-245890K(a)dgroups.org

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Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Marcel Werner 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - Public Panel 19 June 2008 *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one percent point growth to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. This is contingent upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic transactions. *Kenya, as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in having a legal framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is an anachronism hampering national development, placing provincial centres at a disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both external and internal trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector strongly supports e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the Information and Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open market and promotes innovation. Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting electronic transactions represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity in the legal framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an electronic signature -Manage and control e-commerce risks -Remove e-commerce barriers KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public domain, the Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the Electronic Transactions Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest technical standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the economy (including tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th May, 4th June and 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed overwhelming support for urgent legislation of e-commerce. Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and hearings to date have yielded the following important issues for improvement in the current Bills: - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated - Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence - Need for data protection and privacy provisions - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associations including KIF, lead regulator Communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are expressing their desire to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line travel bookings have exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in off-line bookings is in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally support abundant on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. E-commerce in agriculture will improve small-holder's living standards. Great impact is expected notably in the coffee sector that provides livelihood to at least 5 million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. Healthcare efficiency and affordability will improve by on-line health data management systems. Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have also expressed keen interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade efficiency and security in rural Kenya. What is e-commerce E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based documentation by a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and sellers. E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an irreversible trend. Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by mutual agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach its full potential when parties that do not know each other are able to trade with full mutual protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers of consumers and businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism operators, small-scale industry and services providers in almost any business sector. About KIF The Kenya Information and Communication Technology Federation (KIF) represents the ICT industry with Government and with private sector bodies e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private Sector Alliance KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. KIF is a legally registered membership based Association, made up of trade associations and professional bodies within the national ICT industry, as well as commercial corporations. KIF has been accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. KIF contributes ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, agriculture, construction industry, and last but not least supports e-government development. KIF is a membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on public policy and industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues include: innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes and levies, rural ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with excellent relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership is open for market segment associations and individual companies. Membership charges are annual and based on company size. Contact: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 4440102 MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation please send any business mail to: Marcel.Werner(a)innovation-africa.or.ke

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Creating edutainment clips with Flip
by Gakiria 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Dear Brian, I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to create small educational clips for integration into e-learning courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such courses remain bandwidth shy... Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, educationally relevant content without the need for expensive equipment and advanced technical know how. Gakiria Kenya e-Learning Center On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > Flipping over Flip > > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > > Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > have seen in recent days. > > Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > said "I'll show you." > > When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > > This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > > According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > > My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > contribute towards the development of local, African content. > > Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > > [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > zinjlog.blogspot.com] -- Gakiria Andrew Coordinator Kenya eLearning Centre Nairobi, KENYA

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Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip
by John Wesonga 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Interesting conversation here, my company Multiple Choices has built a storycollection and sharing portal that's mashed up with Google Maps, this Users can submit SMS content (we have an SMS application integrated to pull content into the portal), audio clips (this is done via a desktop application which can be downloaded and installed both Linux and Windows version available), all the stories are populated onto a google maps. RSS feeds are available for content syndication, user profile creation can be added if needed. Integrating the pictures module from the flip Cameras should not be hard. If anyone is interested I can be reached on john.wesonga(a)multiplechoices.biz. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:22 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Kai Wulff) > 2. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Brian Munyao Longwe) > 3. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Brian Munyao Longwe) > 4. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Joseph Manthi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:19:35 +0300 > From: "Kai Wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <1d9501c8e105$a5d8bcf0$360da8c0(a)local.kdn.co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can upload all > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > Kai > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > Dear Brian, > > > > I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to > > create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > courses remain bandwidth shy... > > > > Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > equipment and advanced technical know how. > > > > Gakiria > > Kenya e-Learning Center > > > > > > > > On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >> Flipping over Flip > >> > >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >> > >> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >> have seen in recent days. > >> > >> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > >> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > >> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >> said "I'll show you." > >> > >> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >> > >> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > >> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > >> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >> > >> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >> > >> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >> > >> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >> > >> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > > > > > -- > > Gakiria Andrew > > Coordinator > > Kenya eLearning Centre > > Nairobi, KENYA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:46:59 +0300 > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Kai Wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <A6F18185-50F4-420A-BB93-27BE25694242(a)caret.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Good gesture Kai. Would that be a portal that is freely accessible > via the Butterfly network? i.e. anyone within a WiFi zone can click > and upload? > > That would really be a huge benefit. > > We're thinking right now about how to scalably test this out, talking > to a few friends to see if we can get hold of several of these gizmos > - then let's see what happens > > I would love to see some primary school kids content, high school > kids content, university kids content, jua-kali content, entrepreneur > content etc..... > > Brian > > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Kai Wulff wrote: > > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can > > upload all > > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > > > Kai > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > > >> Dear Brian, > >> > >> I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > >> 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using > >> it to > >> create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > >> courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > >> size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > >> courses remain bandwidth shy... > >> > >> Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > >> educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > >> equipment and advanced technical know how. > >> > >> Gakiria > >> Kenya e-Learning Center > >> > >> > >> > >> On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >>> Flipping over Flip > >>> > >>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >>> > >>> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >>> have seen in recent days. > >>> > >>> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the > >>> USA > >>> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During > >>> this > >>> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >>> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >>> said "I'll show you." > >>> > >>> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >>> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >>> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >>> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >>> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >>> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >>> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >>> > >>> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >>> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >>> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on > >>> the > >>> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others > >>> like > >>> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >>> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >>> > >>> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >>> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >>> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >>> > >>> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >>> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >>> > >>> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >>> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >>> > >>> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >>> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Gakiria Andrew > >> Coordinator > >> Kenya eLearning Centre > >> Nairobi, KENYA > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff% > >> 40kdn.co.ke > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > > mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:48:44 +0300 > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: Gakiria <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <513FB437-7B87-4C44-AFDD-EE63AA0D2B92(a)caret.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Incredible! This is really great. Are your clips 'open source' ;-) > i.e. free? > > Do you have them online so that we can take a peek? > > Brian > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Gakiria wrote: > > > Dear Brian, > > > > I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to > > create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > courses remain bandwidth shy... > > > > Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > equipment and advanced technical know how. > > > > Gakiria > > Kenya e-Learning Center > > > > > > > > On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >> Flipping over Flip > >> > >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >> > >> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >> have seen in recent days. > >> > >> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > >> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > >> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >> said "I'll show you." > >> > >> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >> > >> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > >> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > >> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >> > >> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >> > >> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >> > >> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >> > >> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > > > > > -- > > Gakiria Andrew > > Coordinator > > Kenya eLearning Centre > > Nairobi, KENYA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:26:10 -0400 > From: "Joseph Manthi" <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <brian(a)caret.net> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: > <896f69760807080826i1202669dq38e40cc51c0942e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Brian > I would encourage you to visit the following site to see Flip capabilities: > > http://www.theflip.com/ > > Joe > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > wrote: > > > Good gesture Kai. Would that be a portal that is freely accessible > > via the Butterfly network? i.e. anyone within a WiFi zone can click > > and upload? > > > > That would really be a huge benefit. > > > > We're thinking right now about how to scalably test this out, talking > > to a few friends to see if we can get hold of several of these gizmos > > - then let's see what happens > > > > I would love to see some primary school kids content, high school > > kids content, university kids content, jua-kali content, entrepreneur > > content etc..... > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Kai Wulff wrote: > > > > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can > > > upload all > > > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > > > > > Kai > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > > > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > > > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > > > > > >> Dear Brian, > > >> > > >> I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > >> 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using > > >> it to > > >> create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > >> courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > >> size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > >> courses remain bandwidth shy... > > >> > > >> Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > >> educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > >> equipment and advanced technical know how. > > >> > > >> Gakiria > > >> Kenya e-Learning Center > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > > >>> Flipping over Flip > > >>> > > >>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > > >>> > > >>> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > > >>> have seen in recent days. > > >>> > > >>> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the > > >>> USA > > >>> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During > > >>> this > > >>> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > > >>> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > > >>> said "I'll show you." > > >>> > > >>> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > > >>> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > > >>> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > > >>> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > > >>> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > > >>> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > > >>> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > > >>> > > >>> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > > >>> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > > >>> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on > > >>> the > > >>> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others > > >>> like > > >>> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > > >>> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > > >>> > > >>> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > > >>> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > > >>> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > > >>> > > >>> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > > >>> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > > >>> > > >>> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > > >>> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > > >>> > > >>> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > > >>> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Gakiria Andrew > > >> Coordinator > > >> Kenya eLearning Centre > > >> Nairobi, KENYA > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> kictanet mailing list > > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > >> > > >> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff% > > >> 40kdn.co.ke > > >> > > >> -- > > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > >> believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > > > mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Joseph Manthi > CEO > MEO Ltd > http://www.meoltd.com >

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Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Joseph Manthi 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

So your solution is to regulate - also known as control - ICT? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:57 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > But ICT is not medicine, and no life is at stake here... > > You must be joking! Have you heard of medical systems controlled by > software? Air-traffic control systems? Airplane navigation systems? > Banking systems? Traffic-light systems? The microwave you use at home? > That little gadget that you depend on some much - the mobile phone? > > No life at stake? > > Have an informative day. > > Saidi > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Brian and Waudi: > > But ICT is not medicine, and no life is at stake here even though the > > medical and chemical practitioners - read chemists - would want us to > > believe it is so. Why do we want to suffocate the baby before it is born? > > > > If Kenya wants to compete with India and other countries in ICT, I urge > you > > guys to leave the industry alone. This is akin to what CCK is doing to > the > > telecommunications industry. They want to license people who can connect > > cables. How much knowledge does one need to connect an RJ45 cable to a > PC? > > Likewise do we need to license PHP programmers? Will this give us the > sense > > of security that we have the best programmers working today just because > > they have a license saying so? Need I dwell on my experience hiring MS > > licensed engineers and what I think about those MSCEs etc? > > > > My teachers used to say "think twice before you leap". This is a case > where > > this adage needs to be heeded. There is the concept of collateral damage > and > > an intended consequences. Please contemplate those. > > > > Joe > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Very correct Waudi. That's why we have Paediatrics Association, a > >> Pyschiatrics Association, a Dental Board, an Obstetrics Society. You > >> have gotten the point clearly. > >> > >> Asante sana! > >> > >> B > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On 07 Jul 2008, at 7:54 PM, "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Brian - I do not know what you are saying. The medical field, as > >> > another > >> > example, is wide and diverse - we have heart surgeons, ENT > >> > specialists, > >> > paeditricians, general practitioners, gynacologists, etc, etc. Are > >> > these > >> > people the same? Would you go to a gynacologist to solve your eye > >> > ailment? OK, let us forget about regulating or registering doctors. To > >> > wide, large and deep. > >> > > >> > Waudo > >> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:00:54 +0300, "Brian Longwe" <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > >> > said: > >> >> Hi Walu, > >> >> > >> >> I beg to differ. ICT is too large, too deep and too wide to have a > >> >> single, authoritative, representative body. What you refer to would > >> >> probably be more appropriate to some of the professional disciplines > >> >> within the ICT sector e.g. Software Developers Guild, System > >> >> Administrators Association, CIO/CTO Society - within which there can > >> >> be certain codes of behavior, ethics, values, best practices etc... > >> >> > >> >> I would venture to suggest that ICT is very similar to the auto > >> >> industry - which is made up of so many different types of > >> >> stakeholders > >> >> (from multi-national vendors like GM to Owino my jua-kali fundi and a > >> >> plethora of linkages across insurance, finance, property, transport > >> >> etc...) > >> >> > >> >> Not that I intend to put your suggestions down - but to request a > >> >> slightly broader view of the animal called ICT. > >> >> > >> >> To illustrate this point I will wax poetic and share with you the > >> >> following poem by John Godfrey Saxe ( 1816-1887) > >> >> > >> >> The Blind men and the Elephant > >> >> > >> >> It was six men of Indostan > >> >> To learning much inclined, > >> >> Who went to see the Elephant > >> >> (Though all of them were blind), > >> >> That each by observation > >> >> Might satisfy his mind. > >> >> > >> >> The First approach'd the Elephant, > >> >> And happening to fall > >> >> Against his broad and sturdy side, > >> >> At once began to bawl: > >> >> "God bless me! but the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a wall!" > >> >> > >> >> The Second, feeling of the tusk, > >> >> Cried, -"Ho! what have we here > >> >> So very round and smooth and sharp? > >> >> To me 'tis mighty clear > >> >> This wonder of an Elephant > >> >> Is very like a spear!" > >> >> > >> >> The Third approached the animal, > >> >> And happening to take > >> >> The squirming trunk within his hands, > >> >> Thus boldly up and spake: > >> >> "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a snake!" > >> >> > >> >> The Fourth reached out his eager hand, > >> >> And felt about the knee. > >> >> "What most this wondrous beast is like > >> >> Is mighty plain," quoth he, > >> >> "'Tis clear enough the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a tree!" > >> >> > >> >> The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear, > >> >> Said: "E'en the blindest man > >> >> Can tell what this resembles most; > >> >> Deny the fact who can, > >> >> This marvel of an Elephant > >> >> Is very like a fan!" > >> >> > >> >> The Sixth no sooner had begun > >> >> About the beast to grope, > >> >> Then, seizing on the swinging tail > >> >> That fell within his scope, > >> >> "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a rope!" > >> >> > >> >> And so these men of Indostan > >> >> Disputed loud and long, > >> >> Each in his own opinion > >> >> Exceeding stiff and strong, > >> >> Though each was partly in the right, > >> >> And all were in the wrong! > >> >> > >> >> MORAL. > >> >> > >> >> So oft in theologic wars, > >> >> The disputants, I ween, > >> >> Rail on in utter ignorance > >> >> Of what each other mean, > >> >> And prate about an Elephant > >> >> Not one of them has seen! > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >> > >> >> On 07 Jul 2008, at 12:45 PM, John Walubengo <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Marcel, > >> >>> > >> >>> It looks like quite some work has been ongoing in this > >> >>> area...unfortunately it seems as if it was restricted within KIF > >> >>> only? I wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, Waudo r u there?) > >> >>> or Information Security Audit & Control (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just > >> >>> to mention some of the big IT Associations in Kenya were involved. I > >> >>> beg to be enlightened. > >> >>> > >> >>> This brings in an old question - who really represents the IT > >> >>> Profession in Kenya? Shem has been on record as saying that IT is > >> >>> the only discipline where we seem to lack bodies with the same > >> >>> authority as LSK (Law Society of Kenya), IEK (Institute of Engineers > >> >>> of Kenya), Medical Practictioners Board amongst others to regulate > >> >>> the IT Profession. > >> >>> > >> >>> And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the bill either (and has a > >> >>> different objective anyway). But time has come to really start > >> >>> thinking of regulating the IT profession, even as we struggle to > >> >>> regulate the industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead on this, > >> >>> but they have been awfully quite except when they award prizes at > >> >>> the end of the year (Waudo I know u will kill me offline but I just > >> >>> had to say it!). > >> >>> > >> >>> KEPSA? very reputable and effective particularly in the > >> >>> Manufacturing sector but on IT? am not sure they have been as > >> >>> effective - particularly because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the > >> >>> IT industry has been 'cloudy' for lack of a better word...Can for > >> >>> example CSK or ISACA be part of KEPSA without being part of KIF? I > >> >>> again need to be enlightened. > >> >>> > >> >>> O.K. I agree I did digress, but just thinking loudly and saying that > >> >>> as we think of regulating electronic transactions, we also need to > >> >>> simultaneously start regulating the IT profession..but maybe I am > >> >>> wrong. Particularly because regulation can and often leads to > >> >>> suppression... > >> >>> > >> >>> walu. > >> >>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > >> >>>> Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in > >> >>>> Kenya > >> >>>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >> >>>> Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > >> >>>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM > >> >>>> Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - > >> >>>> Public Panel 19 > >> >>>> June 2008 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one > >> >>>> percent point growth > >> >>>> to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. > >> >>>> This is contingent > >> >>>> upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic > >> >>>> transactions. *Kenya, > >> >>>> as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in > >> >>>> having a legal > >> >>>> framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is > >> >>>> an anachronism > >> >>>> hampering national development, placing provincial centres > >> >>>> at a > >> >>>> disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both > >> >>>> external and internal > >> >>>> trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector > >> >>>> strongly supports > >> >>>> e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the > >> >>>> Information and > >> >>>> Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open > >> >>>> market and promotes > >> >>>> innovation. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting > >> >>>> electronic transactions > >> >>>> represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity > >> >>>> in the legal > >> >>>> framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: > >> >>>> -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an > >> >>>> electronic signature > >> >>>> -Manage and control e-commerce risks > >> >>>> -Remove e-commerce barriers > >> >>>> KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public > >> >>>> domain, the > >> >>>> Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the > >> >>>> Electronic Transactions > >> >>>> Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest > >> >>>> technical > >> >>>> standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the > >> >>>> economy (including > >> >>>> tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th > >> >>>> May, 4th June and > >> >>>> 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed > >> >>>> overwhelming support for > >> >>>> urgent legislation of e-commerce. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and > >> >>>> hearings to date > >> >>>> have yielded the following important issues for improvement > >> >>>> in the current > >> >>>> Bills: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be > >> >>>> demarcated > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Clarification on which commercial documents are > >> >>>> excluded from > >> >>>> proposed legislation > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of > >> >>>> electronic evidence > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Need for data protection and privacy provisions > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud > >> >>>> than on > >> >>>> traditional fraud > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and > >> >>>> punishments > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime > >> >>>> within the scope of > >> >>>> the Extradition Act > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws > >> >>>> whose functions > >> >>>> will be policy implementation and advisory, as a > >> >>>> multi-sectoral body with > >> >>>> industry associations including KIF, lead regulator > >> >>>> Communications > >> >>>> Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are > >> >>>> expressing their desire > >> >>>> to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line > >> >>>> travel bookings have > >> >>>> exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in > >> >>>> off-line bookings is > >> >>>> in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally > >> >>>> support abundant > >> >>>> on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. > >> >>>> E-commerce in > >> >>>> agriculture will improve small-holder's living > >> >>>> standards. Great impact is > >> >>>> expected notably in the coffee sector that provides > >> >>>> livelihood to at least 5 > >> >>>> million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. > >> >>>> Healthcare efficiency and > >> >>>> affordability will improve by on-line health data > >> >>>> management systems. > >> >>>> Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have > >> >>>> also expressed keen > >> >>>> interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade > >> >>>> efficiency and > >> >>>> security in rural Kenya. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> What is e-commerce > >> >>>> > >> >>>> E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based > >> >>>> documentation by > >> >>>> a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and > >> >>>> sellers. > >> >>>> E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an > >> >>>> irreversible trend. > >> >>>> Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by > >> >>>> mutual > >> >>>> agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach > >> >>>> its full potential > >> >>>> when parties that do not know each other are able to trade > >> >>>> with full mutual > >> >>>> protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers > >> >>>> of consumers and > >> >>>> businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism > >> >>>> operators, small-scale > >> >>>> industry and services providers in almost any business > >> >>>> sector. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> About KIF > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The Kenya Information and Communication Technology > >> >>>> Federation (KIF) > >> >>>> represents the ICT industry with Government and with > >> >>>> private sector bodies > >> >>>> e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private > >> >>>> Sector Alliance > >> >>>> KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. KIF is a legally > >> >>>> registered membership based > >> >>>> Association, made up of trade associations and professional > >> >>>> bodies within > >> >>>> the national ICT industry, as well as commercial > >> >>>> corporations. KIF has been > >> >>>> accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. > >> >>>> KIF contributes > >> >>>> ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, > >> >>>> agriculture, construction > >> >>>> industry, and last but not least supports e-government > >> >>>> development. KIF is a > >> >>>> membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on > >> >>>> public policy and > >> >>>> industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues > >> >>>> include: > >> >>>> innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes > >> >>>> and levies, rural > >> >>>> ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with > >> >>>> excellent > >> >>>> relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership > >> >>>> is open for > >> >>>> market segment associations and individual companies. > >> >>>> Membership charges are > >> >>>> annual and based on company size. Contact: > >> >>>> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 > >> >>>> 4440102 > >> >>>> MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation > >> >>>> > >> >>>> please send any business mail to: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Marcel.Werner@innovation-africa.or.ke_______________________________________________ > >> >>>> kictanet mailing list > >> >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu% > >> >>>> 40yahoo.com > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> kictanet mailing list > >> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >>> > >> >>> This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> kictanet mailing list > >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >> > >> >> This message was sent to: emailsignet(a)mailcan.com > >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >> > >> >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.… > >> > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work > >> > (Confucius). > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Joseph Manthi > > CEO > > MEO Ltd > > http://www.meoltd.com > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: saidimu(a)gmail.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/saidimu%40gmail.com > > > > > -- Joseph Manthi CEO MEO Ltd http://www.meoltd.com

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Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Harry Hare 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Dear Marcel, Good review of the proposed bills. I happen to have participated in the preparation of the Draft e-Transaction Bill and would like to respond to some of the concerns in my own capacity as a Kenyan citizen. Another caveat is that apart from attending a one week course on legal aspects of e-Commerce, law is a stranger in my being. See my responses to the specific issues the analysis raises below: Harry 1. Provisions on who can prosecute are missing This is actually covered in Schedule C, under the investigations of offenses section and article 21 gives the commissioner of police the authority to prosecute. Under the same section, there is a proposal to constitute special investigation unit on cyber crime. 2. Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated You may want to be abit elaborate on this. Part IV of the proposed bill tries to indemnify service providers from third party felonies. Would you prefer for instance that we have data providers and internet service providers as separate have separate limitations? 3. Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation In the initial drafts of the proposed law, the documents had been listed as title deeds, bearer bonds and letter of credit; this is actually best practise as proposed by the UNCITRAL models laws on e-commerce. The concept tries not to cover documents that can be exchanged for cash/service or goods. 4. Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence The question of admissibility of electronic evidence is covered very well in Schedule B which has proposed amendments to the Evidence Act. I do not see any ambiguity in this section unless you can point out something specific. 5. Need for data protection and privacy provisions Articles 31-34 of the proposed bill covers protection of private information. Is this insufficient? 6. The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud Might need some research on this. 7. Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments I tend to agree with the analysis here...for instance spamming the proposed fine is 200,000 and spoofing the proposed fine is 2m. May need some reworking in line with the weight of the offence. 8. Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act The bill proposes that the clause "all the crimes mentioned in the Electronic Transactions Bill 2007", this clause enough to amend the Extradition Act to include the crimes that have been identified in the proposed bill. 9. Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associationsincluding KIF, lead regulator communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya We belaboured on this and initially came up with a proposal to have a multi-stakeholder agency, akin to KENIC, to administer the act but after long discussions and consultations, the team was unable to come out as boldly as you did for several reasons. i) We were aware of the fact that proposing the creation of a new body has some budgetary implications and therefore would slow down the process of enacting the law. ii) The Bill was developed towards the end of last year, the mood at that time was that anything that went to parliament had the risk of being politicised and therefore aligning the bill to specific institutions was suicidal From: kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Marcel Werner Sent: 06 July 2008 17:44 To: harry(a)africanedevelopment.org Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - Public Panel 19 June 2008 Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one percent point growth to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. This is contingent upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic transactions. Kenya, as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in having a legal framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is an anachronism hampering national development, placing provincial centres at a disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both external and internal trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector strongly supports e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the Information and Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open market and promotes innovation. Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting electronic transactions represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity in the legal framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an electronic signature -Manage and control e-commerce risks -Remove e-commerce barriers KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public domain, the Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the Electronic Transactions Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest technical standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the economy (including tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th May, 4th June and 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed overwhelming support for urgent legislation of e-commerce. Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and hearings to date have yielded the following important issues for improvement in the current Bills: - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated - Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence - Need for data protection and privacy provisions - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associations including KIF, lead regulator Communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are expressing their desire to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line travel bookings have exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in off-line bookings is in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally support abundant on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. E-commerce in agriculture will improve small-holder's living standards. Great impact is expected notably in the coffee sector that provides livelihood to at least 5 million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. Healthcare efficiency and affordability will improve by on-line health data management systems. Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have also expressed keen interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade efficiency and security in rural Kenya. What is e-commerce E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based documentation by a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and sellers. E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an irreversible trend. Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by mutual agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach its full potential when parties that do not know each other are able to trade with full mutual protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers of consumers and businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism operators, small-scale industry and services providers in almost any business sector. About KIF The Kenya Information and Communication Technology Federation (KIF) represents the ICT industry with Government and with private sector bodies e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private Sector Alliance <http://www.kepsa.org/> KEPSA. KIF is a legally registered membership based Association, made up of trade associations and professional bodies within the national ICT industry, as well as commercial corporations. KIF has been accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. KIF contributes ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, agriculture, construction industry, and last but not least supports e-government development. KIF is a membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on public policy and industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues include: innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes and levies, rural ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with excellent relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership is open for market segment associations and individual companies. Membership charges are annual and based on company size. Contact: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 4440102 MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation please send any business mail to: Marcel.Werner(a)innovation-africa.or.ke No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 05/07/2008 10:15

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