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Re: [kictanet] Poll Ping Pong With Kenyan Minds
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

They might have to do that, else, with their carefree attitudes risk losing an electorate base that they will find it quite an uphill task to recapture. ----- Original Message ----- From: odhiambo(a)gmail.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 3/7/13 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Poll Ping Pong With Kenyan Minds IMHO, you seem to be. I personally don't see the need to involve "sugar-coating" in this. Let's get it in black & white, like we do in the courts. IEBC is a judge between several competing interests, unless you also want the political parties to employ PR gurus for the same purpose:) On 8 March 2013 00:39, <eonchari(a)lynxbits.com> wrote: Listers, Am I the only one here that finds it extremely strange that - "the exchange between parties and IEBC is absolutely inappropriate and strange?. Shouldn't the IEBC be having top Lawyers and PR Gurus to keep such at bay - (for public interest of course ;)? Furthermore, where were the media gagging "cops" when all this was happening? Edwin _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list [email protected] https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.

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Poll Ping Pong With Kenyan Minds
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Listers, Am I the only one here that finds it extremely strange that - "the exchange between parties and IEBC is absolutely inappropriate and strange?. Shouldn't the IEBC be having top Lawyers and PR Gurus to keep such at bay - (for public interest of course ;)? Furthermore, where were the media gagging "cops" when all this was happening? Edwin

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Poll Ping Pong With Kenyan Minds
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Listers, Am I the only one here that finds it extremely strange that - "the exchange between parties and IEBC is absolutely inappropriate and strange?. Shouldn't the IEBC be having top Lawyers and PR Gurus to keep such at bay - (for public interest of course ;)? Furthermore, where were the media gagging "cops" when all this was happening? Edwin

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

I AM crude in saying this but I will say it non-the-less...why are we all sugarcoating all his while we all know very well that it will come haunting us in 2017 unless we fix it now for good? The processes at IEBC are messed up PERIOD(manipulated or otherwise)!!!! Let us clean it up - NOW While cleaning it up...let us stop being selfish and put practical measures in place (devoid of political interference) to avoid the same scenario in 2017 - hire experts (foreign if need be) in this for heavens sake How difficult can that be- am sure it will cost less that 9B KSHS? Unless of course we continue leeching and hope to call upon the "usual culprits" in GOK to come to our aid!! Can't we act on our own and say - this is enough? What happens if " they" were not there? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ericosiakwan(a)me.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 3/7/13 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Folks: Whiles this post-motem is relevant, i think the timing is out of sync. In my view the most relevant "to do" now is "how do we get the RESULTS out PEACEFULLY and below is what i suggest members of this list consider; 1. Lets calm tempers and do our best to reduce the tension,2. Lets find ways of helping the IEBC to deliver on it's mandate of collating and declaring the results,3. Let all parties be ready to accept the results and if they are not satisfied, approach the law courts instead of the media and streets. Unfortunately, distance wont allow me to help in this exercise but i trust it can be done, peacefully. Then we can do the post-motem properly. Eric here On 7 Mar 2013, at 18:31, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Time to mutually agree that those whom voted electronically continue indulging in ICT nitpicking while those whom voted manually concentrate on manual results announced by electoral authority? From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> To: ict.researcher(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? @Edith, Safaricom cannot explain anything to do with IEBC Servers and laptops and even the Nokia phones IEBC used! I'll try to elaborate slightly: 1. Safaricom gives connectivity, much like a highway to drive on at a certain maximum speed. They ensured that IEBC got this and I must emphasize I was a witness to this, having sat with Bob Collymore and other Safaricom's top Manager at the Safaricom Network Monitoring Centre (NMC) from 6.30pm on Monday to about 8am on Tuesday. During this time, myself and other representatives of political parties and representative from IEBC had unfettered access to the NMC and the Engineers on duty to ensure there were no issues affecting the "highway". I don't remember seeing any failures on the highway, and besides there was enough redundancy in place to mitigate that. 2. Safaricom DID NOT have access to IEBC servers - which form the "backend" of the transmission system. Neither did Safaricom have access to the mobile phones that were used as "frontend". These two were communicating via a VPN. The encryption within this VPN was IEBCs business. IEBC was responsible for configuring the frontend-backend communication. When IEBCs Server disk filled up (ran out of space) it was IEBCs business to fix, not Safaricoms. I remember when results stopped trickling in, I did raise the question and CORD's representative at the NMC went to Bomas, where he got the information that there had been issues with HDD storage. I also recall Safaricom's Nzioka Waita rushing to Bomas to get to establish what the real problem was. Of course it was beyond his mandate to manage IEBC's Server. This whole s*^t is IEBCs to answer for, NOT Safaricom. Look at the failure as being on the "Submission System" (frontend-backend) and not on the highway. I am not speaking on behalf of Safaricom, but as one person who has first hand information from Safaricom's NMC while representing a political coalition's interests. Oh, and Jubilee Coalition did not send a representative. I also don't recall seeing someone representing Amani coalition, but they all had invitation to attend. On 6 March 2013 20:10, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: Despite Safaricoms press release, they were involved in transmitting the results. Can they explain why the transmission via their VPN failed? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erik Hersman Sent: March 6, 2013 3:02 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at IEBC? Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when Presidential results are relayed electronically. Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke www.whiteafrican.com | @whiteafrican On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several integration requirements with several third party applications. The problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness process went. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: Agosta, I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke www.whiteafrican.com | @whiteafrican On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: Daudi My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election system, things fail and most times they recover. Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a fact what the problem is and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the staff there. We know them !! There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, websites etc etc Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... Thanks On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: about the RFP ... ---------------------------------------- THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND TO THIS RFP ---------------------------------------- Liko, The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. D _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Muthoni My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ict.researcher%40yaho… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Eric M.K Osiakwan+233244386792

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Re: [kictanet] Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

"Counting in Kenya's tightly contested election has slowed down, raising political tension in a country still scarred by the violence that broke out after the disputed 2007 poll. The two main contenders in the..." Its sad and shame to Britain. I just cut and paste these from the BBC. Is it there buainess to "kutuchunguza NA kuleta vitina " ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:07 AM PST S.M. Muraya wrote: >Actually it is "the New Yorker".... > >In their racist world, if Euros (such as the BBC reporter who claimed to >have evidence of Mungiki Meetings at State House) accuse Africans, then we >must be guilty of crimes against humanity. > >Also remember, we have a "Distinguished" Kenyan Professor of Western >"Values" in New York who believes the ICC process is more important than >the masses being restrained by our accused politicians. >On Mar 7, 2013 3:31 PM, "Sam Gichuru" <gichuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NY times call Uhuru Kenyatta an International Fugitive :) >> >> >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/when-a-criminal-leads… >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Where are the Media Owners Association (MOA) who run the presidential >> debate? Can they get together very quickly and agree on a media blackout >> for politicians sharing defeatist info. >> >> Otherwise, the principal purpose of the presidential debate and media-led >> peace campaigns might be quickly eroded...MOA led Kenya for Kenyans, Bring >> Zack Back Home and many more. I am sure they can do this. >> >> MOA has to come out and say they will cover the tallying process and >> encourage the rule of law! >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Listers,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from >>> international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of >>> information be by international media houses? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The media is represented on this list, what’s going on?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: >>> #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in >>> Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, >>> 2013: >>> Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it >>> has evidence that results are being "doctored"**** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gichuru%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warm Regards, >> ------------------------ >> Sam Gichuru >> >> >> twitter: | @samgichuru <http://twitter.com/samgichuru> >> Blog: | www.samgichuru.com >> Facebook: | Sam.gichuru <http://www.facebook.com/sam.gichuru> >> Skype: Sam.gichuru >> Cellphone: | +254-722-730565 >> >> Co-founder/ Director /Nailab Incubation >> Location: | Nairobi >> Website: | www.nailab.co.ke >> twitter: | @thenailab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Re: [kictanet] Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

"Counting in Kenya's tightly contested election has slowed down, raising political tension in a country still scarred by the violence that broke out after the disputed 2007 poll. The two main contenders in the..." Its sad and shame to Britain. I just cut and paste these from the BBC. Is it there buainess to "kutuchunguza NA kuleta vitina " ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:07 AM PST S.M. Muraya wrote: >Actually it is "the New Yorker".... > >In their racist world, if Euros (such as the BBC reporter who claimed to >have evidence of Mungiki Meetings at State House) accuse Africans, then we >must be guilty of crimes against humanity. > >Also remember, we have a "Distinguished" Kenyan Professor of Western >"Values" in New York who believes the ICC process is more important than >the masses being restrained by our accused politicians. >On Mar 7, 2013 3:31 PM, "Sam Gichuru" <gichuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NY times call Uhuru Kenyatta an International Fugitive :) >> >> >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/when-a-criminal-leads… >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Where are the Media Owners Association (MOA) who run the presidential >> debate? Can they get together very quickly and agree on a media blackout >> for politicians sharing defeatist info. >> >> Otherwise, the principal purpose of the presidential debate and media-led >> peace campaigns might be quickly eroded...MOA led Kenya for Kenyans, Bring >> Zack Back Home and many more. I am sure they can do this. >> >> MOA has to come out and say they will cover the tallying process and >> encourage the rule of law! >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Listers,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from >>> international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of >>> information be by international media houses? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The media is represented on this list, what’s going on?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: >>> #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in >>> Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, >>> 2013: >>> Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it >>> has evidence that results are being "doctored"**** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gichuru%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warm Regards, >> ------------------------ >> Sam Gichuru >> >> >> twitter: | @samgichuru <http://twitter.com/samgichuru> >> Blog: | www.samgichuru.com >> Facebook: | Sam.gichuru <http://www.facebook.com/sam.gichuru> >> Skype: Sam.gichuru >> Cellphone: | +254-722-730565 >> >> Co-founder/ Director /Nailab Incubation >> Location: | Nairobi >> Website: | www.nailab.co.ke >> twitter: | @thenailab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I do concur with you!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I do concur with you!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I agree! !!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by Edith Adera 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Listers, With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of information be by international media houses? The media is represented on this list, what's going on? Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it has evidence that results are being "doctored"

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