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Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook
by Ali Hussein 29 Mar '18

29 Mar '18

Kivuva On a light note... So Facebook knows you are a chauvinist who doesn't buy diapers? And those ladies in your household are the only ones who buy diapers? #Asking4aFriend :-) Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Tracy, I'm not holding brief for FB, but I understand your question. > > The main business model for FB is advertisement. If you have ever > advertised on the platform, you would understand the need to build > profiles. So for example, if you are selling ladies handbags, and diapers, > you would tell FB to show the bags to [ladies], in [Kenya], aged between > [21 to 50]. If you cannot deliver to Turkana, you can say, [living in > Nairobi, or Mombasa]. For the diapers, you would tell FB to show the > advertisement to [ladies] between [22 and 40] living in suburban areas. > This is the same for Google too. > > In my FB profile, I never see these types of adverts because FB already > has a profile about me, but the ladies within my household see these > adverts. > > Since you are probably billed per view, or per click, it is more value for > the advertiser to TARGET the advertisement to the right audience, otherwise > you will loose your advertising capital showing irrelevant advertisement to > those in Turkana. > > > I hope this helps. > > On Mar 28, 2018 8:03 PM, "Tracy Kadesa" <kadesatracy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Ebele > > With what's going on right now, I am struggling to believe this > statement "Your information is securely stored and we do not sell this > information to third parties. You are always in control of the information > you share with Facebook." And why would fb collect all this info anyway > if it wasn't planning to make use of it! what is the rationale? > > Regards > > Tracy Kadesa, > LL.B ,University of Nairobi. > Dip KSL > tracykadesa.wordpress.com > legalwalk.wordpress.com > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> As Ali has put it before, it's really refreshing seeing that we can get >> first level support, and feedback from Facebook. This really is the >> advantage of having an ecosystem of engagement which KICTANET provides. >> It's refreshing bigly :-) >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 6:06 PM Ebele Okobi via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Yes-those have been in the works for months, to be launched this week. >>> The news has understandably overshadowed these announcements. That >>> said-stay tuned for more details. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Just seen this as well... >>> >>> https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-03-28/ >>> facebook-updates-privacy-tools-for-better-data-control? >>> __twitter_impression=true >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.bloomberg.com_amp_…> >>> >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018, 12:31 Ngigi Waithaka, <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Ebele, >>>> >>>> If that's the case, then I guess what they do is get a 'screenshot' of >>>> your photo and maybe *overlay* it on your newsfeed / timeline. The >>>> *impression* it gives you is that the photo is already uploaded... >>>> >>>> Thanks... >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clarification-your photos are not auto-uploaded to Facebook. The app >>>>> has access to your photos and essentially shows you your own photo folder >>>>> and asks if you want to upload. Your pictures do not get uploaded to >>>>> Facebook until you upload them yourself. >>>>> >>>>> I do think it’s a good piece of feedback for our product teams to know >>>>> that a) this feature is confusing to you, and b) that showing users their >>>>> photos and asking if they want to upload can be off-putting/not a good >>>>> experience. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Ebele >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ebele, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your update, I will check on the contacts settings as you >>>>> have indicated. >>>>> >>>>> I still think though some of the choices we make are not very >>>>> *clearly* spelt out when we make them. For instance, I can understand the >>>>> need to sync my contacts, but *not* my call & sms history! And this is >>>>> especially so for those of use (most of us?) who use our phones for both >>>>> personal & official business. >>>>> >>>>> My recommendation, have at least three settings clearly indicating >>>>> what you would use them for, if at all! >>>>> 1. Sync contacts >>>>> 2. Sync Call records (***) >>>>> 3. Sync SMS & Messages (***) >>>>> >>>>> As regards the photos this is what happen(s) / happened. Normally I >>>>> would not give FB access to my photos.However, at some point I needed to >>>>> upload a certain specific photo on to some FB markets that I participate in. >>>>> >>>>> Shortly as I was still in the market and as I was scrolling though my >>>>> newsfeed I started seeing a number of family photos that I had taken >>>>> earlier, already uploaded but kind of greyed out, with FB asking me whether >>>>> I wanted to share them. >>>>> >>>>> That is very disconcerting! >>>>> >>>>> Again, if a user gives access to his photo library for a *single* >>>>> photo, that should not mean *all* my photos are auto-uploaded to FB, then >>>>> FB prompts me to share them... >>>>> >>>>> My recommendation would be to have at least two settings: >>>>> 1. Upload a single photo >>>>> 2. Auto- Upload *ALL* my photos >>>>> >>>>> And, I don't consider myself a *pro* FB user, it may very well be that >>>>> indeed this is already covered so thanks for being our 'customer-care', >>>>> appreciate :-) >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Answers below-for your first question, it’s VERY important to clarify >>>>>> that Facebook does not “pick up” your contacts. You have to expressly agree >>>>>> to upload your contacts. For example, I have never agreed to this, so my >>>>>> contacts have never been uploaded. If you change your mind about the >>>>>> permission you have given, or if you accidentally gave permission, please >>>>>> see below for how to opt back out. Note that this feature is “opt-in”, so >>>>>> express agreement is required for it to be happening. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is the same for the photographs, so can you please clarify your >>>>>> question? Are you saying that you granted permission for specific photos to >>>>>> be posted on your page, and now you want to delete them? Facebook does not >>>>>> automatically upload any photographs to your page. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for >>>>>> people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and >>>>>> stay connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a >>>>>> better experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use >>>>>> this feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they >>>>>> can turn it off in settings >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, or here >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for >>>>>> Facebook Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared >>>>>> via that app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android, >>>>>> uploading this information has always been opt-in only. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> >>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 5:37 PM >>>>>> *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>>> *Cc: *Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ebele, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to see FB represented here. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Got two questions: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Supposing FB has picked up my contacts and SMS and I would like to >>>>>> delete any prior data that has been uploaded, how would I go about that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. I also noticed that when I allow FB contacts to my PhotoGallery on >>>>>> Android for purposes of being able to select pictures to upload, by >>>>>> default, it then would upload *all* new pictures taken and ask me whether >>>>>> I'd like to share them on my timeline. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to also delete any such content that FB has picked >>>>>> from my phone and auto-uploaded? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rgds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 19:30 Ebele Okobi via kictanet, < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is useful context, below. Please do let me know if there are >>>>>> additional questions or concerns. I do appreciate how significant an issue >>>>>> this is, and am happy to answer questions and relay concerns internally. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call- >>>>>> and-sms-history/ >>>>>> >>>>>> March 25, 2018 >>>>>> Fact Check: Your Call and SMS History >>>>>> >>>>>> You may have seen some recent reports that Facebook has been logging >>>>>> people’s call and SMS (text) history without their permission. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not the case. >>>>>> Opt-in features in Facebook Lite and Messenger >>>>>> >>>>>> Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people >>>>>> using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and stay >>>>>> connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a better >>>>>> experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use this >>>>>> feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they can >>>>>> turn it off in settings >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, or here >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for Facebook >>>>>> Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared via that >>>>>> app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android, >>>>>> uploading this information has always been opt-in only. >>>>>> >>>>>> We introduced this feature for Android users a couple of years ago. >>>>>> Contact importers are fairly common among social apps and services as a way >>>>>> to more easily find the people you want to connect with. This was first >>>>>> introduced in Messenger in 2015, and later offered as an option in Facebook >>>>>> Lite, a lightweight version of Facebook for Android. >>>>>> How it works >>>>>> >>>>>> When you sign up for Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android, or log >>>>>> into Messenger on an Android device, you are given the option to >>>>>> continuously upload your contacts as well as your call and text history. >>>>>> For Messenger, you can either turn it on, choose ‘learn more’ or ‘not now’. >>>>>> On Facebook Lite, the options are to turn it on or ‘skip’. If you chose to >>>>>> turn this feature on, we will begin to continuously log this information, >>>>>> which can be downloaded at any time using the Download Your Information >>>>>> tool >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467?helpref=page_content>. >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.] >>>>>> >>>>>> If, at any point, you no longer wish to continuously upload this >>>>>> information, you can easily turn this feature off in your settings >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>. You can also turn >>>>>> off continuous call and text history logging while keeping contact >>>>>> uploading enabled. You can also go to this page >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mobile/messenger/contacts/> to see which >>>>>> contacts you have uploaded from Messenger, and you can delete all contact >>>>>> information you’ve uploaded from that app should you choose. >>>>>> We never sell this data, and this feature does not collect the >>>>>> content of your text messages or calls >>>>>> >>>>>> When this feature is enabled, uploading your contacts also allows us >>>>>> to use information like when a call or text was made or received. This >>>>>> feature does not collect the content of your calls or text messages. Your >>>>>> information is securely stored and we do not sell this information to third >>>>>> parties. You are always in control of the information you share with >>>>>> Facebook. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:29 PM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bigthink.com_news_faceb…> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users >>>>>> >>>>>> Brandon A. Weber >>>>>> >>>>>> Have an Android phone or device? You might want to read this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BIGTHINK might have thoughts similar to your said friend. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android >>>>>> phones [Updated] >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__arstechnica.com_inform…> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android >>>>>> phones [... >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe check your data archive to see if Facebook’s algorithms know >>>>>> who you called. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Factual or otherwise? Ars Technica makes reference to an FB rejoiner. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It should not be lost that even the most basic loyalty card is for >>>>>> decision making to serve you the customer better - data by the issuer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> *Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of >>>>>> God on Earth".* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, 26 March 2018, 08:52:17 GMT+3, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via >>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> See my views from a data science, business model and regulatory >>>>>> perspective >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Data Breach? What Breach- A Watershed Moment >>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/ pulse/data-breach-what-breach- >>>>>> watershed-moment-big-data- scientist >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_pulse…> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Coach Timothy Oriedo* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Error! Filename not specified.*timothyoriedo.coach >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timothyoriedo.coach-3Fp…> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ali, >>>>>> >>>>>> Facebook was built for and is meant for *sharing*! With time, I have >>>>>> seen FB make us want to share more and more, recommend to us 'friends' at >>>>>> every turn and inevitably there will be a clash between the sharing and our >>>>>> privacy! >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, there was a time our Newsfeeds were very clean, you'd actually >>>>>> get to know what your friends were upto, but I do find its now looking >>>>>> unrecognizable; its become this very noisy marketplace! Or maybe I am >>>>>> gettitng old :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Privacy unfortunately plays 2nd fiddle to sharing. For me, the straw >>>>>> that broke the proverbial camels back is seeing photos that I had taken on >>>>>> my phone already auto-uploaded and semi-shared in my timeline, and with an >>>>>> absent minded click, I would have shared all on the my timeline! >>>>>> >>>>>> I got the app off my phone immediately, but kept the web desktop as I >>>>>> do continue to use it once in a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also seen that FB has been collecting all our Phone records, >>>>>> calls + SMS as written about on Verge... >>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2018/ 3/25/17160944/facebook-call- >>>>>> history-sms-data-collection- android >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theverge.com_2018_…> >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I guess if you're still using FB on Android, you gotta be >>>>>> 'strong'! >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S >>>>>> >>>>>> Does FB and other Apps synchronize their data policies with those of >>>>>> the users home country? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Listers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you all had a great weekend. Here’s an interesting article on >>>>>> the ongoing Facebook fallout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Excerpt:- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I spent the evening with a friend who is far bolder than me. Having >>>>>> deactivated his Facebook >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.email.fortune.co…> profile >>>>>> three years ago, he upped the ante this week by deleting his Instagram >>>>>> account. Even more drastically, he plans officially to *delete* his >>>>>> long-dormant Facebook account—the last vestige of his serfhood in Mr. >>>>>> Zuckerberg’s fiefdom—sometime very soon, after his girlfriend has had an >>>>>> opportunity to port its photos elsewhere. (He prefers offline storage.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Read on:- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://view.email.fortune.com /?qs=55840ef3733ec70e7bbf70681 >>>>>> a1fdf4ef688af63cc3bc7eef1a6466 871482204b1da0994a47ddc4eb36e5 >>>>>> 5eca2c6a6c64c45c7cb49127419dc5 77951543699845cefb5000f8f8cbb >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__view.email.fortune.com…> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Principal* >>>>>> >>>>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>>>> >>>>>> +254 0713 601113 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>> >>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alih…> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. 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Want to know just how much of your information Google & Facebook have ?
by Ngigi Waithaka 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

Listers, In case you'd like to know just how much information the two big online giants Google & Facebook have on you, this is a very good place to start.... https://bit.ly/2pKbtaN -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke

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Fwd: [Ietf_africa] Application for the Hackathon@AIS is now open
by Kevin G. Chege 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

FYI: FRANCAIS PLUS BAS ====== Hello everyone, The application process for the Hackathon@AIS is now open. The Hackathon@AIS is an event aimed at exposing engineers from the African region to Open Internet Standards development and is co-organized by ISOC and AFRINIC. This will be the second event in the series following a successful event held in Nairobi last year during the Africa Internet Summit. Please look at https://hackathon.internetsummitafrica.org/ to see the topics that will be covered this year. Network/System engineers, software developers, and or computer science students are encouraged to apply as engagement in open Internet standards development can help further their careers. *The event will be held on the 9th and 10th of May 2018 in Dakar, Senegal*. If you are interested in participating AND can commit to being available over the 2 days, please fill the application form. Space is limited and successful applicants will be notified and then be enrolled in various online training sessions in the build up of the event. Fellowships will be awarded to strong applicants where possible. Click here to apply: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/R6MPTYQ *Applications close on the 8th of April 2018.* *--------------------------------------------------------------* Bonjour à tous, Le processus de candidature pour le Hackathon@AIS est désormais ouvert. Le Hackathon@AIS est un événement visant à exposer les ingénieurs de la région africaine au développement des standards Internet ouverts et est co-organisé par ISOC et AFRINIC. Ce sera le deuxième événement du genre après un événement réussi à Nairobi l'année dernière lors du Sommet Africain de l'Internet. Veuillez regardez https://hackathon.internetsummitafrica.org/ afin de voir les sujets qui seront couverts cette année. Ingénieurs Systèmes / Réseaux, développeur d'applications, et ou étudiants en informatique sont encouragés à postuler étant donné que l'engagement dans le développement des standards ouvert de l'Internet peut aider au futur de leur carrière. *L'événement aura lieu les 9 et 10 mai 2018 à Dakar au Sénégal*. Si vous êtes intéressé à participer ET que vous pouvez vous engager à être disponible pendant les 2 jours, veuillez remplir le formulaire. Les places sont limité et les candidats retenus seront informés et seront ensuite inscrits à diverses sessions de formation en ligne en vue de l'événement. Des bourses de participations seront accordées aux meilleurs candidats dans la mesure du possible. Cliquez ici pour postuler: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/R6MPTYQ *Important : Les documents et travaux de l’IETF étant exclusivement en anglais, une bonne compréhension de la langue est essentielle.* *La date limite pour les candidatures est le 8 avril 2018.* Thank you. *Betel Hailu *| *Africa Regional Bureau – Communications Coordinator *| *ISOC: Internet Society* skype: betty.hailu | www.InternetSociety.org | *Follow Us * [image: ion: Macintosh HD:Users:betelhailu:Desktop:facebook.png] <https://www.facebook.com/ISOCAfrica>[image: ion: Macintosh HD:Users:betelhailu:Desktop:twitter.png] <https://twitter.com/ISOC_Africa> _______________________________________________ Ietf_africa mailing list Ietf_africa(a)elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf_africa

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Draft EAC Interconnection Regs+Explanatory Note+ RIO
by Mark O. Okuttah 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

Dear listers, I trust that you are doing well. The East African Community has developed EAC Interconnection Regulations to guide seamless interconnectivity between telecommunication partners across the EAC region. Attached are the said regulations for your review and comments. Communications Authority of Kenya is in the process of collecting views and comments from industry’s stakeholders on behalf of EAC and would appreciate receiving your comments by COB 6th April 2018. Send your views and comments to info(a)ca.go.ke<mailto:info@ca.go.ke> and copy mwasho(a)ca.go.ke<mailto:mwasho@ca.go.ke> Regards, Mark Okuttah -- Consumer And Public Affairs Department [Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/signature/ca-logo.jpg] Tel: +254 20 4242000/542/+254 703042000 Fax: +254 20 4451866/4242207 [cid:BF1F0DED-59D5-40C3-B5CA-BE96BB91687C] [Description: Description: http://digital.scanad.com/signature/cop.jpg]

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Cambridge Analytica
by Timothy- Coach- Oriedo 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

The cock has finally come home to roost? As Data Scientists, we have for long pointed out Cambridge Analyticas dirty hands in mining data below is a statement from facebook newroom today detailing the extent of their aberration that's led to their subsequent suspension. Problem is there are a myriad of other apps out there still mining information from our phones and modelling nuanced targeted advertising that influences our decisions subliminally. https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/suspending-cambridge-analytica/ My previous articles that mentioned their work.... https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/africa/2017-07-17-kenyas-social-media-elec… https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/Why-data-driven-news-generatio…

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Fwd: [Internet Policy] FYI - ISOC statement on need for better handling of user data
by Barrack Otieno 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

Listers, Might be of interest to some of you. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dan York <york(a)isoc.org> Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:47 PM Subject: [Internet Policy] FYI - ISOC statement on need for better handling of user data To: "internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org" <internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org> Internetpolicy subscribers, In response to the recent revelations of exposure of user data, we published this statement: https://www.internetsociety.org/news/statements/2018/sorry-just-isnt-enough- businesses-must-better-comes-peoples-data/ Dan -- Dan York Director, Content & Web Strategy, Internet Society york(a)isoc.org +1-802-735-1624 <+1%20802-735-1624> Jabber: york(a)jabber.isoc.org Skype: danyork http://twitter.com/danyork http://www.internetsociety.org/ _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Fwd: [Internet Policy] Interesting ICANN Discussion Paper on Efficient and Effective Policy Development
by Barrack Otieno 27 Mar '18

27 Mar '18

Listers, This might be of interest to some of you interested in Internet Policy Developement. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ayden Férdeline <ayden(a)ferdeline.com> Date: Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:32 PM Subject: [Internet Policy] Interesting ICANN Discussion Paper on Efficient and Effective Policy Development To: ISOC INTERNETPOLICY <internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org> Dear all, In January, ICANN policy development staff begun circulating this discussion paper <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429868/Discussion%20Pape…> [PDF] on how to best leverage volunteers to produce high-quality policy outcomes. In it, it flagged some issues with the multistakeholder model with which ICANN’s Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) currently develops gTLD policy. There are concerns that the multistakeholder model does not scale and that project milestones are not being achieved as a result. The paper says there have been a number of challenges encountered in working groups. Key among the challenges are increasing participant and observer numbers, divergent motivations and desired outcomes, and difficulties in reaching consensus. Even where consensus is reached, there is a perception that it can sometimes be reached through exhaustion (and as a result may hold no long-term legitimacy). To quote from the paper, “Without properly addressing challenges faced in implementing the current volunteer model, there is a risk of strain on staffing resources, logistical problems, climbing costs, and attrition by core community members. These issues could result in stagnation of policy and advice development activities. At stake is the credibility and legitimacy of the ICANN global multistakeholder model, especially as ICANN faces greater scrutiny following the IANA-transition.” Over the past two months, in Los Angeles and in San Juan, the GNSO Council, as manager of the gTLD policy development process, has had discussions around how it can and should act in addressing challenges if/when these occur. The GNSO Council has subsequently agreed to develop a white paper-type proposal setting out possible changes to the policy development process to address the specific challenges encountered. ICANN has also published a video this week discussing the path ahead for what has been termed "Policy Development Process 3.0" - https://youtu.be/BTErFlcxK-M. I am sharing this for information purposes only; it might be of interest to those who believe multistakeholder governance models are either broken or have muscle. Add this one to the document repository for the former… Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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What policy-makers need to do about the Facebook and Cambridge Analytica scandal
by Shitemi Khamadi 26 Mar '18

26 Mar '18

Some thoughts from Privacy International on the CA scandal. Some which we as a country are currently working on https://www.privacyinternational.org/feature/1697/move-swiftly-so-they-stop… -- Kind Regards, Shitemi Khamadi | Programs Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE). Phone: +254 704090471, +254 733522229 | Personal: +254 -720-175808 Email: shitemi(a)bake.or.ke | Website: bake.co.ke | BAKE Awards: bakeawards.co.ke <http://www.bakeawards.co.ke/> Become a member: bake.co.ke/membership <http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2015/09/09/how-to-become-a-bake-member/> Follow us: *Twitter*: @bakekenya <http://twitter.com/BakeKenya>, *FB*: fb.com/bakekenya <http://facebook.com/bakekenya> & *YouTube*: youtube.com/bakekenya

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Recommendations for best local apps/services to improve lives?
by Adam Lane 24 Mar '18

24 Mar '18

Hi all When we build new mobile sites for our customers in rural areas we find a lack of awareness of local apps/services that would be useful for them to use. We're currently looking around at various apps/services related to health, agriculture, employment, education etc... I'd appreciate any recommendations... we'll hopefully be able to promote them to rural citizens. The more localized the better (i.e. even better if in Swahili or other dialects) and if there's the use of video/audio even better (in case of literacy challenges). Thanks Adam

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DRAFT REPORT: ICT PERSPECTIVES: COMMUNITY’S 365 DAYS REVIEW
by Liz Orembo 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

Greetings listers, Please find attached the draft report. See you all! On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > DearListers > > We would like to thank those of you who will be attending our ICT review > event this evening. > > Please find attached the program for the event. See you all. > > > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > Co-Convenor > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > Twitter:@ggithaiga > Tel: 254722701495 > Skype: gracegithaiga > Alternate email: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga > www.kictanet.or.ke > > "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and > come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability > to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m > ailman/options/kictanet/lizorembo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF

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