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Selling Software?
by John Walubengo 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Wainaina, I wouldn't even try to make licensed software (any) cheaper. The idea of 'selling' software is in itself questionable. I would prefer to imagine that software (programs or instructions given to computers) is like a (food) recipe. One does NOT sell recipees, infact recipees are shared by neighbours freely around the world. What one should instead sell is the skill and time used to convert the recipe into an end product (food). User's and professionals should therefore have full access to instructions (software, recipe), and using their talent and skills, they can cost and sell their time spend in customising software solutions that suits the local environment. Such 'customised' solutions should still be open and available to the next user/professional who may wish to further customise a subsequent solution from the preceding solution (while charging for the time spend in doing so). But hey, it is a big debate and would (should) feature in the deliberations at Tunis. walu. >>> "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> 11/15/05 12:26pm >>> Waudo, I believe one way of limiting software piracy is my making licenced software affordable. Enforcement of expensive software licences has already proved ineffective. --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > -------Original Message------- > From: waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: BSA in Kenya? > Sent: 15 Nov '05 12:17 > > Microsoft has been active in BSA activity in Kenya. It is very > importatnt that we discourage piracy of software which is very high > particularly in Africa. > > Kind Regards, > Waudo > > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:21:28 +0300, alice(a)apc.org said: > > Hi All > > > > Anyone with information/knowledge about the Business Software Alliance > > mentioned below. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tina James" <tina(a)trigrammic.com> > > To: "Alice Wanjira" <alice(a)apc.org> > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:42 AM > > Subject: BSA in Kenya? > > > > > > > Hi Alice > > > > > > Do you have any idea of how active the Business Software Alliance (BSA) is > > > in Kenya and East Africa? They are made up of large multinational > > > companies > > > that are starting to prosecute people and particularly governments and > > > large > > > institutions who are using pirated software? I just thought you may have > > > come across them through KICTANET and KEPSA / KIF. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Tina > > > _________________ > > > Tina James > > > > > > > > > Trigrammic > > > P O Box 72267 > > > Lynnwood Ridge > > > 0040 South Africa > > > > > > Tel/Fax: +27 12 346-8264 > > > Mobile: +27 82 460-7915 > > > e-mail: tina(a)trigrammic.com > > > URL: www.trigrammic.com > > > > > > > -- > waudo siganga > emailsignet(a)mailcan.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own > > > --- > Submitted by: Waudo Siganga - (Int. address) <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> 2005-11-15 04:23:16 EST5 > (Please reply to original submitter for private communication) > --- > You are currently subscribed to kiplist-cl as: [wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-kiplist-cl-123256Q(a)lyris.idrc.ca > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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Fw: Urgent - BRIDGE needs 3 Research and Communications Assistants
by alice＠apc.org 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Research and Communications Assistant (Ref: 100 and 101) Two posts, Three month fixed term contracts, Full Time (35 hours per week) BRIDGE seeks two skilled researchers and abstracters to join the BRIDGE team for three months. S/he will need a broad knowledge of gender and development theory, policy and practice and have excellent writing skills in order to produce summaries of information sources in a high quality, concise and readable style. One of the positions will be working primarily on the BRIDGE-hosted Siyanda (www.siyanda.org) gender resource (Ref: 100) and the other position will be working on a collaborative project between BRIDGE/Siyanda and the ELDIS (www.eldis.org) Gender Resource Guide (Ref: 101). Please note that the above posts do not meet the UK Home Office requirement for work permit criteria, therefore, we will be unable to recruit applicants who do not have the right to live and work in the UK. Closing date: Wednesday 16 November 2005 (11:00). Interview date: w/c 28 November. Start date: As soon as possible. Salary: £20,044 per annum, notional. Research and Communications Assistant (Ref: 102) One year fixed term contract, Full Time (35 hours per week) BRIDGE (www.bridge.ids.ac.uk) the gender and development research and information team at IDS is seeking a skilled gender and development researcher, trained to postgraduate level, to join the team. The candidate will need a broad knowledge of gender and development theory, policy and practice. The role primarily involves: research and writing support to team members; writing of accessible summaries that draw out key lessons for policy-makers and practitioners; supporting the implementation of the BRIDGE monitoring and evaluation strategy; and networking, information dissemination and publicity-related tasks. The candidate will need to be a team player and have strong analytical and versatile writing skills. As an experienced and creative researcher, they should be familiar with gender information sources. Language (French, Spanish, Arabic or Chinese), monitoring and evaluation and web-authoring skills would be an advantage. Closing date: Wednesday 16 November (11:00). Interview date: w/c 28 November. Start date: As soon as possible. Salary: £20,044-£22,289 per annum, notional, dependent on experience. OFFICIAL APPLICATION FORMS ONLY For further information and to download an application form please log on to www.ids.ac.uk/ids/news/recruit/index.html Alternatively, to receive a hard copy, please either: Call into the HR department, Room 104, Institute of Development Studies; Email Human Resources, hr(a)ids.ac.uk; or call our confidential answerphone 01273 678682 [Int +44 1273] Please ensure that you quote the appropriate reference number. We strongly encourage applications from all sections of the community regardless of race, sex, disability, HIV/AIDS, sexuality and age. Paola Brambilla Communications Assistant/Consultant BRIDGE Institute of Development Studies University of Sussex Brighton, BN1 9RE email: P.Brambilla(a)ids.ac.uk <mailto:P.Brambilla@ids.ac.uk> Visit our websites! http://www.bridge.ids.ac.uk/ <http://www.bridge.ids.ac.uk/> to download our Bridge reports http://www.siyanda.org/ <http://www.siyanda.org/> for a great range of gender focused development material --- You are currently subscribed to inbrief as: alice(a)apc.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-inbrief-217378D(a)lyris.ids.ac.uk

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Fw: BSA in Kenya?
by alice＠apc.org 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Hi All Anyone with information/knowledge about the Business Software Alliance mentioned below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina James" <tina(a)trigrammic.com> To: "Alice Wanjira" <alice(a)apc.org> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: BSA in Kenya? > Hi Alice > > Do you have any idea of how active the Business Software Alliance (BSA) is > in Kenya and East Africa? They are made up of large multinational > companies > that are starting to prosecute people and particularly governments and > large > institutions who are using pirated software? I just thought you may have > come across them through KICTANET and KEPSA / KIF. > > Cheers > Tina > _________________ > Tina James > > > Trigrammic > P O Box 72267 > Lynnwood Ridge > 0040 South Africa > > Tel/Fax: +27 12 346-8264 > Mobile: +27 82 460-7915 > e-mail: tina(a)trigrammic.com > URL: www.trigrammic.com > >

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Fw: [Chapter-delegates] Update from WSIS PrepCom in Tunis
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

----- Original Message ----- From: <shears(a)isoc.org> To: <chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:57 PM Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Update from WSIS PrepCom in Tunis > > Dear all, > > Please find below a report on the highlights from yesterday's sessions in > Tunis. > > Should you have questions, comments, don't hesitate. Also please share > any insights, intelligence. > > And if you are at WSIS, don't forget to come by the Internet Pavilion. > > Best, > > Matthew > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > PrepCom 3 Resumed in Tunis, 13 November 2005. > > Sub-Committee A on Internet Governance > > After brief opening comments, the session moved straight into > Sub-Committee A, picking up where the discussion had left off in Geneva. > Opening statements from the CCBI and the Chinese delegation left no doubt > in the minds of others present that the diversity of views had not > lessened since Geneva. As was to be expected, a number of countries > talked about, inter alia, a role for the UN, either with regarding the > Forum or oversight mechanisms, the need for recognition of the legitimate > concerns of governments regarding ccTLDs, while others called for > safeguarding the security and stability of the Internet. > > After an hour of general statements the Chair took the temperature of the > room by summarizing the debate at that point. He noted that the group > worked on a basis of consensus and that they only had some 13 hours of > negotiating time left. He noted the polarized range of views and used > this to focus on the common ground, seeking to move forward in that area. > A number of delegations agreed with this approach going forward and the > Chair asked Canada and a smaller group of countries to work up a list of > consensus areas. During the Canadian-led discussion there was general > agreement on the need for some sort of a Forum function, among others, BUT > this was qualified by recognition that the agreement was subject to > further discussion and reaching agreement on its mandate. > > Sub-Committee B on the Political Chapeau, Financial Mechanisms and > Implementation and Follow-up (thanks to Sebastian Ricciardi from the ISOC > Argentinean chapter for his report). > > While not as contentious perhaps as the discussion on Internet governance, > and with text closer to finalization, discussion in Subcommittee B > revolved around a cluster of sensitive issues: human rights, freedom of > expression and sovereignty. Recognizing the diversity of views on these > issues, Iran and Norway were asked to enter into informal consultations > and come up with a language for read-out the following day. > > Discussion of other complicated and wide-ranging issues such as the gender > divide, corporate responsibility of transnational corporations and > assistance to children followed, although in the latter case it was not > possible to address them in any specificity. Another area of controversy > related to technology transfer with suggestions that "preferential terms" > should be used in international documents - the United States, among > others, said that most technology transfer is done by the private sector > and that they should determine the terms under which such transfers should > be undertaken. > > As to implementation of WSIS follow-up, two schools of thought became > apparent regarding detailing the stakeholders who would undertake such > follow-up. The group that proposes a full listing of involved parties and > their respective roles - largely UN/ITU and other intergovernmental > organizations - one the one hand, and the group that wishes to be less > prescriptive and more flexible as to how does what on the other. Concerns > related to multi-stakeholder participation were also raised in this > context, with a focus on not prejudging who might implement that > follow-up. > > Finally, there was agreement for the need for a World Information Society > Day, date to be decided. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org > http://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Thanks but this has given me another idea.We still have the problem of comparing service providers tariffs across Africa, would it OK to benchmark it against US$ airfares, fares being "commercially" sensitive to respective markets consumers ability to afford travel? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorcas Muthoni" <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> To: "Alex Gakuru" <way_forward_tech(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>; <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > Hi All, > > The article was refering to how expensive Internet access is from Telkom > SA. As had been indicated, follow this link for > more:http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn20051114 062722287C918494&set_id=1 > > By visiting that link, you will actually have a feel of their speeds, > > Muthoni > > > > Alex Gakuru wrote: > > >My understanding from James Njuguna's posting was the > >reference was Telkom > >SA? > >Dorcas elaborate your thread! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> > >To: <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke>; <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> > >Cc: <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; > ><Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> > >Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:09 AM > >Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > > > > > > > > > >>Aiih! > >> > >>Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an > >> > >> > >otherwise good name of > >TKL? > > > > > >>any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? > >> > >>walu. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>>>Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >10:52am >>> > > > > > >>'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > >> > >>If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong > >> > >> > >Kong and download > > > > > >>100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to > >> > >> > >South Africa and > > > > > >>pay less than if you were to download that amount of > >> > >> > >information using > > > > > >>Telkom's ADSL service. > >> > >>Even taking into account the duration of the return > >> > >> > >flight, you could be > > > > > >>back in South Africa days before you could complete > >> > >> > >the download here. > > > > > >>This is according to Durban software developer > >> > >> > >Stuart Gunter, who has > > > > > >>posted on an Internet forum the findings of an > >> > >> > >investigation that show > > > > > >>just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL > >> > >> > >service is compared > > > > > >>to the rest of the world. > >> > >>For the rest of the story visit: > >> > >> > >> > >http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627 22287C918494&set_id=1 > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>kictanet mailing list > >>kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > >>http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

My understanding from James Njuguna's posting was the reference was Telkom SA? Dorcas elaborate your thread! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> To: <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke>; <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> Cc: <jkrukaria(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Hkinoti(a)telkom.co.ke>; <Tasenaji(a)telkom.co.ke> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > Aiih! > > Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an otherwise good name of TKL? > > any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? > > walu. > > > >>> Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 10:52am >>> > 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' > > If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download > 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and > pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using > Telkom's ADSL service. > > Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be > back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. > > This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has > posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show > just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared > to the rest of the world. > > For the rest of the story visit: > http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Sustainable Development.
by Alex Gakuru 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Wainaina, Care to call me on 2732311-2. Thanks Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> To: <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: [Kictanet] A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap betweenthe Information Society and Sustainable Development. > A new book of interest to Kenyans. > > ========================== > TITLE: A Developing Connection: Bridging the Policy Gap between the Information Society and Sustainable Development. > > AUTHORS: Terri Willard, Maja Andjelkovic, Steve Vosloo, Wainaina Mungai, Margarita Salas, Anusha Lall, Atanu Garai, Diogo André de Assumpção, Amira Sobeih, > > Source: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=740 > > In "A Developing Connection," seven young researchers from six countries look at the emerging relationship between sustainable development and the information society. The potential of information and communications technology to contribute to a more sustainable world is limitless. The challenge is to bring the policy communities together and help them understand the links. In this volume, some important challenges are outlined-and some important examples of success are highlighted. > > > Download for free * English (3,279 kb) - http://www.iisd.org/pdf/2005/networks_dev_connection.pdf > > Description: Book, 220 pages > > Copyright: IISD 2005 > > > > --- > Wainaina Mungai > http://www.madeinkenya.org > > SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by Dorcas Muthoni 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary
by alice＠apc.org 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Hi All Just a reminder that Ben Sihanya had begun some preliminary work on KICTANet registration/structure. Something to help continue our discussions regarding registration of the network thanks alice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <innovativelawyer(a)wananchi.com> > To: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure Summary > > >> Replying on the difference between a trust and a foundation and without >> prejudice. >> >> Please find attached. >> >> Regards. >> >> Ben Sihanya >> >> Grace M. >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Angela W >> ICT Programme- IL >> >> Hi All, >>> >>> Here are my views and some of KIF's views. >>> >>> 1. I think membership should be restricted to legal >>> organisations(entities)and not individuals. >>> >>> 2. There should be some norminal registration fee, but >>> more importantly, we should come up with a membership >>> charter that spells out values and privileges etc.. >>> >>> 3. I suggest that we should expand the mission to >>> include WORKING TOGEHTER TO ACHIEVE THE VSIION IN THE >>> ICT POLICY >>> >>> 4. Can Ben siyahanya or any other lawyer explain to us >>> what the difference between a trust and a foundation >>> is. >>> >>> Speaking for KIF, we are all for KICTANET and as you >>> all know, we will continue leading the ICT convention. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Charles Nduati >>> --- Florence Etta <Fetta(a)idrc.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >Not sure if the first email I sent out as Alias got >>>> sent out but here it >>>> >is again. >>>> >In this email I will try to summarize the picture >>>> that emerged by the end >>>> >of last week's discussion on the desired structure >>>> for KICTANet. >>>> > >>>> >We seem to have suggestions as follows: >>>> > >>>> >1Mission: " Working together" (Waudo) >>>> > >>>> >2 Objectives: As suggested (Florence,Alice and >>>> Nkuuhe) >>>> > >>>> >3 Organisational type: Foundation/Trust (Brian) >>>> > >>>> >4 Name of Trust/Foundation: Trust (for) >>>> KICTANet/KICTANet >>>> >Foundation/KICTANet Trust >>>> > >>>> >5 Trustess?? 5-7 Organisations with clout and >>>> respect in Kenya >>>> > >>>> >6 Organisational Plan: Lean (Rigia, Harry, Mucheru) >>>> small secretariat say >>>> >3-person at any one time? Volunteers? Interns? >>>> > >>>> >7 Activities/Workplan As agreed at July 29th >>>> meeting? Others? >>>> > >>>> >We need to agree about the membership as well as >>>> membership >>>> >managemnet/plan. So for the rest of this week it >>>> would be good to respond >>>> >to these two issues. >>>> > >>>> >Specifically >>>> >1) who would you say qualifies for membership in >>>> this network? and >>>> > >>>> >2) how can membership be qualified or when does a >>>> member fail to be a member? >>>> > >>>> >This discussion will last only to the end of this >>>> week. >>>> > >>>> >Thanks and cheers, >>>> > >>>> >FE >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >To help you stay safe and secure online, we've >>>> developed the all new >>>> >>>><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/security_centre/*http://uk.…>Yahoo! >>>> >>>> >Security Centre. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>> >>> >>> CHARLES N. NDUATI >>> EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR >>> KENYA ICT FEDERATION (ICT BOARD OF KENYA PRIVATE SECTOR ALLIANCE) >>> 11th FLOOR, BRUCE HOUSE, KAUNDA STREET >>> P. O. BOX 79324-00200 >>> NAIROBI KENYA >>> TEL: 254020-317996/251438/253847 >>> FAX: 254020-221091 >>> MOBILE:254-722728815 >>> EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk >>> OFFICE EMAIL:info@kif.or.ke >>> www.kif.or.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with >>> voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >>> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke >> http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >

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Re: [Kictanet] 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL'
by John Walubengo 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Aiih! Is this true or money has been poured to tarnish an otherwise good name of TKL? any comment from Rukaria? Eng. Kinoti? Eng. Senaji? walu. >>> Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> 11/14/05 10:52am >>> 'Cheaper to fly than use ADSL' If you don't eat or stay over, you could fly to Hong Kong and download 100 gigabytes of data from the Internet, fly back to South Africa and pay less than if you were to download that amount of information using Telkom's ADSL service. Even taking into account the duration of the return flight, you could be back in South Africa days before you could complete the download here. This is according to Durban software developer Stuart Gunter, who has posted on an Internet forum the findings of an investigation that show just how internationally uncompetitive Telkom's ADSL service is compared to the rest of the world. For the rest of the story visit: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?newslett=1&click_id=79&art_id=vn200511140627…

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