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The East Africa Internet Governance Forum: Advancing the Internet Governance Debate for meaningful participation.
by alice 21 Oct '09

21 Oct '09

The East Africa Internet Governance Forum: Advancing the Internet Governance Debate for meaningful participation. * * * *An East African broadband policy framework was the topic of discussion at the second East Africa Internet Governance Forum held in Nairobi in September 7-9^th 2009. Over 200 participants and observers from 15 countries representing private sector, civil society, Internet community, media, government, parliamentarians, regulatory authorities, development partners, United Nations agencies, consumer networks and academia came together to discuss local and regional Internet Governance (IG) issues. The main themes of the meeting were cybercrime, policy regulatory requirements, consumer issues, critical Internet resources, and access to broadband. In each thematic session, representatives of the five East Africa countries provided a national perspective, identifying key issues, progress and challenges, followed by discussion among all EA-IGF 2009 participants around developing recommendations and a way forward. A new addition to the EA-IGF was a session organised for East African members of parliament. The EA-IGF, first convened in 2008, aims to create a community of practice that will, in the long term, become a sustaining foundation for the meaningful participation of East African stakeholders in Internet public policy debates at the national, regional and international level. The EA-IGF model allows for informed participation, contribution and engagement of community members through research, sharing of experiences and skills, solving common problems, identifying challenges, and creation of new knowledge. The Forum follows a bottom up multi-stakeholder approach, which begins at the national level with mailing list discussions in each country, followed by national face-to-face IGFs, to continue discussions and debate, which go further to validate the issues identified and begin to explore recommendations and solutions. The national IGFs then form the building block for the regional East Africa IGF. During the 2009 EA-IGF, consensus emerged that access continues to be one of the most important issues for the region, with the most fundamental access issue being universal affordable access to broadband. Forum participants recommended the development of a regional broadband policy framework to enhance affordable universal access. Other essential issues included strengthening country code top-level domains (ccTLDs), developing national and regional policy and regulatory frameworks for spectrum management, cybercrime, and consumer protection, among others. The proposal to create an enabling environment for universal affordable access was supported by Kenya’s Permanent Secretary Ministry for Information and Communication Dr. Bitange Ndemo, who noted in his welcome speech that “the next billion Internet users would come from Africa. The Internet is about enabling access to the world's information and knowledge in all of its languages. We must therefore ensure that we localise the Internet to preserve our cultures and knowledge, and share our knowledge and cultures with the rest of the world.” He further added that African governments needed to develop Intellectual Property frameworks that would protect Africa’s rich heritage and resources from theft. *The 2009 EA-IGF recommendations:* On Policy and Regulation, there was consensus around the need to complete and approve an East African Communication policy, as well as development of additional policy frameworks covering broadband, spectrum management, cybercrime, consumer protection and intellectual property. The need for increased civil society advocacy for better quality of service, universal affordable access, and a legal framework for consumer issues including codes of conduct was also agreed upon. The provision of transparent and accessible complaint resolution channels and promotion of informed consumer choice by providing publication of statistics and information to empower consumer choice was also recommended. The session on critical Internet resources recommended strengthening country code top-level domains (ccTLDs), the creation of national and regional data centres, strengthening and protecting national and regional internet Exchange Points (IXP), and awareness raising on IPv6- transition. * * Discussing cybercrime, there was agreement on the need to establish national and regional* *Computer Emergency Response Teams (CERTs) to coordinate and respond to issues of cyber security in the region. Participants also agreed on the urgent need to begin to address the specific needs of vulnerable groups like women and children and how they are affected by cybercrime. While adopting these recommendations, Forum participants acknowledged the need for sustainable means of following up on the issues with various activities, including encouraging further discussions, advocacy efforts, as well as development of necessary policy frameworks at national and regional levels. Participants also agreed that these issues needed to be presented at the global IGF, and discussions begun to explore ways in which they could be included and integrated within the IGF in future years. The EA-IGF will seek to contribute on how the IGF could achieve more practical and useful outcomes drawing on the local and regional lessons with greater consideration given to capacity building and other Internet governance needs the East African countries identified. The, Executive Coordinator for the United Nations Internet Governance Forum, Mr. Markus Kummer noted that while “much of the IGF discussions tended to focus on international factors the development of National and regional IGFs now have an even more important role of informing the global IGF". "The international level", he added, "Cannot work without national agreements and involvement as well as effective participation and commitment of all the stake-holders". *The Parliamentarian IGF session* The inclusion of members of parliament as a key stakeholder group in the meeting was unique to the 2009 EA-IGF. Recognising that parliamentarians have an important role to play in the Internet governance dialogue, the aim of the session was to begin to encourage essential contributions of members of parliament to the IG debate. The session hosted by Kenya’s Member of Parliament and Minister for Information and Communication, Hon. Samuel Porgishio and the Speaker of the Kenya National Assembly Hon. Kenneth Marende and was attended by members of parliament from Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi, Kenya and United Kingdom. In his welcome speech, Hon. Kenneth Marende, noted, “The Internet governance process and debate is very important for the region, particularly now with the increase of access to broadband, which will result in greater benefits and opportunities as well as Internet governance related challenges.” On introducing Internet governance, Adam Peake, from the Centre for Global Communications (GLOCOM) noted that “the architectural principles of the Internet provides an open platform and network on which anyone, who has the skills, and will can provide services, content, and applications. This principle of openness is what makes the Internet so unique and provides the opportunities for social, economic, cultural and political benefits as well as innovation and entrepreneurship.” He therefore encouraged parliamentarians to engage in the Internet governance process in order to encourage their constituents to make use of the social economic development benefits offered by access to the Internet. ** Hon. Samuel Porgishio formally announced Kenya’s intention to host the 2011 IGF. The IGF mandate set by WSIS decisions will be reviewed after the fifth meeting in Vilnius, Lithuania, in 2010. While the EA-IGF does not attempt to mirror the global IGF, consensus emerged that the IGF is a very important and useful mechanism for continuing discussions and debate on Internet governance. As the only multi-stakeholder forum that discusses IG issues, it is important that stakeholders seek assurances of the global forum’s continuity. Acknowledging the importance of the process, Ugandan Member of Parliament, Hon. Nathan Nabeta Igeme announced Uganda’s commitment to host the 2010 East Africa Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF 2010). Ambassador Nick Thorne noted that “Members of Parliament had a vital role to play in Internet governance processes and must consider themselves as a key stakeholder group in the national, regional and global processes. Representing their various constituents, parliamentarians are needed, and are best placed to put pressure on governments and resist unnecessarily restrictive legislation, which might stifle the benefits of the Internet as we have come to know it.” Applauding the EA-IGF, UK Member of Parliament Rt. Hon. Alun Michal encouraged all parliamentarians to engage and understand the process, from national, regional and international levels. "The EA-IGF is a success story", he said, "not because you are doing it right, but because you have set the pace for the rest of the world” The Parliamentarian session approved a declaration, which sought to support the development of regional policy frameworks on broadband access and cybercrime, among others. *Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum (CIGF)* Mark Carvell, from the UK Department for Business Innovation and Skills introduced the Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum (CIGF), which “seeks to encourage greater participation from Commonwealth member states on policy issues and discussions related to Internet governance with a view to coming up with informed solutions to address their needs.” He announced that the CIGF has launched a travel bursary for Commonwealth participants to attend the forth IGF meeting taking place in Egypt in November 2009. Kenya is a member of this initiative and the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is partner of the CIGF. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 2009 EA-IGF was supported by the Canadian International Development Research Centre (IDRC), the Japanese International Cooperation Agency (JICA), Kenya’s Ministry for Information and Communication, the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK), Kenyan Network information Centre (KENIC), AT&T, the Telecommunication Service Providers Association of Kenya (TESPOK), Kenya Internet Exchange Point (KIXP), Africa Network Information Centre (AfrINic), Kenya ICT Board, and the Centre for Global Communications (GLOCOM), International University of Japan, East African ICT for Development network and the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet). For more information about the EA-IGF Visit: www.eaigf.or.ke <http://www.eaigf.or.ke>

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Dropping the ties that bind how Africa can help itself to get lower bandwidth pric es
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 21 Oct '09

21 Oct '09

Dropping the ties that bind how Africa can help itself to get lower bandwidth prices In Kenya two international cables Seacom and TEAMS have arrived but a fierce row has broken out over pricing. On the Government-backed TEAMS cable, Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo has said loudly and publicly that rates should come down to nearer US$200 per mbps. The cables owners say they have to recoup their money and that there will plenty of time later for prices to come down. Russell Southwood looks at some of the blockages to the benefits the international cables might bring and how they might be overcome. By 2011, Africa will have eight international fibre cables connecting it to the rest of the world. New infrastructure is already delivering an eight to ten fold reduction in the prices formerly charged by the satellite companies. But the old African mindset of selling shortage at the highest price is not changing quickly enough to keep up with the new future of plentiful bandwidth. A number of blockages are emerging that need to be overcome if Africa is to take full advantage of its new fibre assets: * Holding bandwidth prices up We have sat in rooms with bandwidth providers in at least two countries where they have argued that the new international fibre will not make that much difference to the prices charged to their customers. Indeed, the first move of many of the providers was to simply increase (rather modestly) the bandwidth their customers were receiving, whilst keeping the price the same. So the new cable owners find themselves arguing what might be called the SAT position. When the cable is being built, all the rhetoric is about lowering prices but the moment the cable is implemented, it suddenly becomes about getting back the money as quickly as possible for their investment, despite the long-term nature of cable investment. Telkom SA claimed to have recouped its investment on SAT3 in eighteen months but it is unlikely with the new lower rates that cable investors will see a full return for a much longer period. Apparently CCK is so cross with this switchover from promising lowered bandwidth costs to trying to keep the price high that it will be investigating price levels on the TEAMS cable. However, all this price-hiking is short-term as with the arrival of EASSy and its WIOCC consortium, prices will fall sharply again. If that has not occurred WIOCC has a price-fall mechanism that will see bandwidth in the market fall to US$100 per mbps. In East Africa, there has been a lively debate over pricing but expect the same price-hiking tactics in West Africa where media coverage may not be as intense. * Not granting international landing station licences One of the major issues in West Africa has been the granting, or perhaps we should say the failure, to grant international landing station rights to those building the new international fibre cables. How can this be occurring when everyone at every level has been arguing for cheaper bandwidth? Well, its the old self-interests being more powerful than the forces for change and everyone behaving according to the old model of behaviour and protecting the incumbent. The most extreme example is Senegal where the regulator has delayed granting landing stations to the cables most likely to be first in the race to complete: Glo One and Main One. In more competitive East Africa, the independently-owned Seacom cable was able to either partner with another independent (KDN) or land using a licence in its own name in Tanzania. But life has not been made that easy in Senegal where Main One is seeking to partner with the only possible alternative to France Telecom-owned Sonatel, Expresso. There is no opportunity to have an independent licence because this might make it too easy to compete with the de-facto monopoly of Sonatel, which is involved in the France Telecom cable initiative ACE. But why blame the regulator when the real delay is coming from Government that takes all the decisions? The cynic might conclude that these delays will help Sonatel get ACE in place and keep out other cables for as long as possible. Of course, the speedy licensing of Glo One and Main One would prove the cynics wrong but dont hold your breath. * Rates between landlocked countries Once the new cheap bandwidth is at the landing stations, the trouble really begins. Operators do much teeth-sucking and say of course, you know thats not the real price. We have to charge for transit. In countries without a landing station, this leaves them in the hands of those accustomed to the old way of doing things. When incumbents dealt only with incumbents for cross-border transit, they both had an informal agreement that they would charge the same high price for each end of the transit. The net result is that prices for cross-border transit remain high. One country we visited recently, it was paying more for the transit to the landing station in a neighbouring country than it was for the onward transmission to Europe. In East Africa, this is less of a problem as some thought was devoted to the issue and solutions are on the table. With World Bank prompting, the EASSy partners came up with the East African Backbone System that delivers inland bandwidth at more or less the same priceas at the landing station. Seacom has also delivered on its promise of the same price inland as at the landing station for those countries where it has inland partner (Rwanda and Uganda). But the problem will be much harder to solve in West Africa as the main independent cable Main One has taken the view that its capacity will be delivered by the operators themselves, who will doubtless turn every trick in the book to ensure that prices remain high for the transit portion. What regulators should be encouraging is regional carriers carriers who can compete with the existing telcos who might seek to keep prices high. The West African and Southern African Power Pools have ample fibre capacity to make a reality of this ambition working with independent partners. * The high cost of national transit to reach the POP or the landing station If cross-border transit rates are a form of highway robbery, then national transit rates show many of the same symptoms. It is cheaper to go from Lagos to Sessimbra in Portugal than it is to go from Lagos to Abajua. If rates are based on distance, then the new international fibre cables have exposed the high rates charged for national backbone delivery. Not surprisingly, these national transit rates remain high where there are legal or de-facto monopolies. Without competition, it is hardly surprising that the old pattern of charging what you can get away with is maintained. But you cannot have competition at the international level, without it having knock-on consequences at the national level. National backbone operators will need to improve their efficiency levels or risk others building out their own backbones (where this is allowed). All operators know that in this circumstance they can cut between a third to a half off of the current rates being charged. The choice is a stark one: either you have a price-controlled monopoly with lower prices or you allow operators to compete and get lower prices. The sceptics will say But who wants all this new bandwidth? There arent the customers. (appropriate shrug of shoulders) This is Africa. The alternative to this old way of thinking is to have a low price, high volume strategy that is about creating volume markets at yes, you guessed it, commodity prices. Then you sell the new customers services and applications on top. In the mobile field, MPesa is the best example of how an Africa-targeted service can take off. Its not about relying on the same old, same old corporates but about addressing the residential middle classes with Internet in places like Nigeria and Kenya who will provide the critical mass for reaching out more widely. Its about bringing the small-scale companies and NGOs to the party and persuading them of the virtues of using the Internet to get things done more quickly. In short, it needs a strong dose of corporate vision rather than seeing the future through the rear-view mirror of history. nb: sorry for crossposting....

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Re: [kictanet] significance of the internet to business world?
by meshack emakunat 20 Oct '09

20 Oct '09

dear all who can share some of the significance of the internet to the world today? anyone!

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Reminder: The Amy Mahan Research Fellowship Program
by alice 20 Oct '09

20 Oct '09

Apologies for cross posting ------------------------------------------- Dear All This really is a great opportunity for an emerging researcher to get some valuable support (each fellowship may be awarded up to €22,000 and will have additional support through mentors) and either pursue an on-going research program or kick-start a new research agenda. The website for the Fellowship is very detailed - http://www.upf.edu/amymahan/ - and provides a lot of useful material to help candidates prepare their application. These include information on: 1. Eligibility - http://www.upf.edu/amymahan/criteria/ 2. *Sample research topics* - http://www.upf.edu/amymahan/topics/ that provide a sense of what types of research would be suitable for the fellowship; and very importantly 3. A facility to submit a topic query - http://www.upf.edu/amymahan/topic-query/topic-query_instructions.html; which enables the candidate to check that their proposed research topic falls within the scope of the fellowship. It is however worth noting that the option of submitting a topic query is only available until *30 November 2009*. Another reason for potential candidates to begin to explore the opportunities/benefits of the program as soon as possible. The deadline for submitting applications is Midnight Eastern Standard Time, *31 December 2009*. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions regarding the program. Regards Abi Jagun Regional Partner for the Africa and Middle East Region Research Associate, LINK Center, University of Witwatersrand -------------------------------------------------------------- > The Amy Mahan Research Fellowship Program is an eighteen-months project sponsored by Canada's International Development Research Center (IDRC) and managed by Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain, in collaboration with scholars from Universidad de San Andrés, Argentina and the University of the Philippines. The Program is the capacity building component of the Global Impact Study. It is named in honor of Amy Mahan, a distinguished colleague and dear friend who was a member of the Research Working Group of the Global Impact Study until her passing on 5 March 2009. > > The Program's objectives are to deepen and strengthen the capacity of emerging scholars in developing countries to carry out rigorous research in the area of public access to ICT, while simultaneously increasing the availability of high-quality research in the subject area coming from the developing regions of the world. The Program will award up to 12 Research Fellowships to emerging scholars from developing countries in Africa and the Middle East, the Asia Pacific region and Latin America and the Caribbean. Fellowships will provide research grant funding and specialized "mentoring" guidance to enable emerging researchers to carry out a new and original research study that addresses one or more critical research questions regarding the impact of public access to ICTs. Qualified researchers from developing countries in Africa and the Middle East, the Asia Pacific region and Latin America and the Caribbean are encouraged to submit their application in English, French, Portuguese or Spanish, no later than Midnight Eastern Standard Time, 31 December 2009. For more details follow this link - http://www.upf.edu/amymahan/ > -- >

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MPesa in afghanistan, tanzania
by michael Ouma 19 Oct '09

19 Oct '09

hi all: follow this link for Mpesa'S launch in tanzania, and afghanistan: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/-/2560/673512/-/item/0/-/1836ux/-/… rgds. Michael Ouma Journalist Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254-725-537823 / +254-0731-201729 Email: benomnta(a)yahoo.com "There are risks and costs to a program of action, but they are far less than the long-range risks and costs of comfortable inaction," - JF Kennedy.

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Finland makes fast broadband a legal right
by alice 17 Oct '09

17 Oct '09

Linking to the current discussion on Internet outage, I will use IDRC Outcome mapping lingua and say, what Finland is doing is an "I would Love to see" kind of scenario. best alice ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/6337698/Finland-makes-fast-… Finland makes fast broadband a legal right The Finnish government has passed a law that entitles every person to a one megabit-per-second internet connection. By Claudine Beaumont, Technology Editor Published: 4:05PM BST 15 Oct 2009 Even the citizens of remote, rural parts of Finland will be legally entitled to a minimum broadband connection speed of one megabit per second, rising to 100 megabits ber second by 2015. Photo: GETTY IMAGES Finland's Ministry of Transport and Communications has committed to ensuring that every person in Finland can access the internet at a minimum speed of one megabit per second from July next year. The Finnish government had already committed to rolling out 100 megabits per second broadband connections across the country by 2015. It's the first country in the world to make universal minimum internet access speeds a legal requirement. The government said the move was aimed at improving broadband provision in rural areas. Telecoms companies across Finland will have to start rolling out high-speed services to all locations. But the Finnish authorities have stressed that this is merely an "intermediary step" ahead of the roll-out of superfast broadband within the next five years. "We think [the internet is] something you cannot live without in modern society," said Laura Vikkonen, a spokesman for the ministry. "Like banking services or water or electricity, you need an internet connection. "Universal service is every citizen's subjective right." Finland, which has a population of around 5.2 million, is already one of the most connected countries in the world, with 95 per cent of citizens already hooked up to some form of internet connection. Although other countries, such as France, have declared the concept of guaranteed web access a "human right", Finland is the first nation to recognise this in law. The British government and internet stakeholders will be keeping a close eye on Finland's plans. In the recent Digital Britain report, the government set a target of universal internet access of speeds of at least two megabits per second by 2012. But it remains unclear whether this target will be achieved, as rural and remote areas may still have to rely on mobile or satellite broadband, rather than fixed-line internet connections, for their web access. The Prince of Wales has added his voice to the debate, calling on the government and internet service providers to stop the countryside becoming a "broadband desert". "Access to the internet is increasingly becoming a necessity," he wrote in The Daily Telegraph at the weekend. "The lack of access to high speed broadband is putting many of those who work in rural communities at a severe disadvantage." BT recently announced that it was doubling the roll-out of its own next-generation, high-speed 100 megabits per second broadband network, making it accessible to 2.5 British households by 2012. However, most of those homes are expected to be concentrated in urban areas. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/6337698/Finland-makes-fast-…

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Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009
by Mwangi Wamae 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

All: Does anyone know what happened to the Internet service yesterday. We had no service from Telkom or Safaricom here and I have heard that Wananchi and Zain were down. Surely an Internet outage -- especially a generalized one -- should be news. The Internet is not a luxury ... someone somewhere should inform stakeholders. And if the networks, ISPs won't communicate then surely the Government should. -Mw

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Re: [kictanet] Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009
by Shah, SurajX 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

Too true Brian. Fiona you need to actually listen to the complaints of the members of this forum and take investigative action rather than telling us the mandate of the Kenya Internet Exchange Point. The members are not raising this issue simply for the heck of it - everyone was inconvenienced terribly by this outage and when the likes of Safaricom do not come up with a reasonable explanation nor a time estimate when the service will resume in the 6 hours they were out, it is un acceptable. Regards Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel Corporation | Kenya | Office: 7th Floor, Purhsottam Place, Westlands Road next to CfC Stanbic Bank, Nairobi | Tel: +254 20 3601724 / 3601727 | Mobile: +254 722 412277 | Email: surajx.shah(a)intel.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 15 October 2009 19:55 To: Shah, SurajX Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 29, Issue 47 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009 (Brian Munyao Longwe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:57:22 +0300 From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009 Message-ID: <CE29BA66-92A5-41BA-9065-84495813C91A(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Very true Waudo and I think that most important thing here is for the operators/service providers to COMMUNICATE. As long as customers/users have information, they will generally tend to cool off and give their supplier time to sort out whatever the problem is. Customer service is key! Brian Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2009, at 7:35 PM, "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> wrote: > I think what started this thread was an observation that a number of > disparate users, having disparate services providers, reported > Internet outage at roughly the same time. I for one know that my > service provider Wananchi (Zuku service) was down Tuesday morning, > something they confirmed when we contacted them. When a user is > down, they are down and they are entitled to ask questions without > being deflected because all they want is to be online with a > reliable service, the technicalities notwithstanding. > > Waudo > > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:17 +0300, "Fiona Asonga" > <tespok(a)tespok.co.ke> wrote: >> Hallo Brian >> >> >> >> Mwangi was not specific about what traffic he was referring to but >> in his remarks below: >> >> >> >> ?Does anyone know what happened to the Internet service yesterday. >> We had no service from Telkom or Safaricom here and I have heard >> that Wananchi and Zain were down. >> >> Surely an Internet outage -- especially a generalized one -- should >> be news. The Internet is not a luxury ... someone somewhere >> should inform stakeholders. And if the networks, ISPs won't >> communicate then surely the Government should.? >> >> >> >> In view of the license established for the KIXP by CCK we don?t ha >> ndle international traffic. However by expecting serious action su >> ch as a statement on there being no internet service while there w >> as be it from other operators just doesn?t add up. Being that I wa >> s out of the office most of Tuesday therefore access internet via >> modem as opposed to the office LAN I didn?t experience such a prob >> lem. That is why I again state; there are many factors that could >> affect connectivity at the last mile that must be considered. Am s >> ure Brian as a someone who has been in the industry a long time yo >> u must be aware of what some of these may be. There are also many >> more operators licensed to provide internet licenses and they can? >> t be ignore either. In other words, a blanket statement such as t >> he one quoted above would do more harm than good. >> >> >> >> I appreciate the comments that Eric gave: ?Are these not >> ?quality of Service Issues? that we should increasingly be >> paying more attention to?? >> >> >> >> The quality of service will improve a lot if we can avoid such >> blanket statement and contacting the specific operator when an >> issue arises so as to be sure where the problem is. Brian as long >> as the traffic is flowing through we assist the operators by >> letting them know so that they can check their other locations/ >> equipment. TESPOK is keen on addressing quality of service issues >> amongst the members and trying to get them to adhere to >> international best practices. Due to working as a team with the >> peering operators most technical teams are honest on where the >> problems are on their networks as they seek assistance is resolving >> some of the issues. However, the support of the end user by being >> clear on the issues affecting their experience is extremely >> important. >> >> >> >> I would propose that Mwangi clarifies what traffic seemed to have a >> problem. >> >> >> >> Fiona Asonga >> >> Chief Executive Officer >> >> Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ >> >> Kenya Internet Exchange Point >> >> 14th Floor, Bruce House >> >> Standard Street >> >> >> >> Tel: +254 20 2245 036 >> >> >> >> >> >> ?Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direct >> ion >> >> within the Industry and Government? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Brian Munyao Longwe [mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:42 PM >> To: Fiona Asonga >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009 >> >> >> >> Hi Fiona, >> >> While all of what you have said is true, the only uptime that you >> can monitor from KIXP (based on how I originally designed it) is >> uptime for operators/providers/members on their link to KIXP. In >> other words, there is now way of determining if their upstream/ >> international connectivity is working or not. >> >> I believe that the initiator of this thread might have been >> referring to 'external' internet access as opposed to 'local' >> internet access. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Fiona Asonga <tespok(a)tespok.co.ke> >> wrote: >> >> Hallo Conrad, >> >> >> >> The Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya set >> up, runs and manages the Kenya Internet Exchange Point as one of >> the many services it provides to operators. At the Kenya Internet >> Exchange Point we are able to >> >> ? Monitor the levels of local internet traffic from connec >> ted members, >> >> ? Monitor downtime >> >> ? Can generate reports of how long a particular operator w >> as down and whether the down time is as a result of equipment at t >> he IXP or other operator location (Downtime of an operator at the >> KIXP implies that the local internet traffic is going out as inter >> national traffic then back into the country therefore some delay) >> >> ? Monitor user behavior in terms of what users are doing o >> nline locally and periods when local internet is most used >> >> >> >> We also provide shared value add services to peering members that >> translate to a better experience for the consumer such as >> >> ? Training members? technical staff on new peering standar >> ds and international best practices (We have a hands on training k >> it from one of our partners to facilitate this) >> >> ? We have recently introduced shared online security mon >> itoring tools for all peering members courtesy of a renown global >> online security experts >> >> ? Peering members get global recognition to enable them pe >> er directly to other IXPs such as London and Amsterdam >> >> ? We also house the .ke, .net, .com, J-root, F-root and I- >> root servers or mirror instances >> >> >> >> We currently have 28 operators, government departments running key >> services online that require access by the general public and the >> Academic network are connected at the KIXP. >> >> >> >> You may contact me if you have any specific queries you may need >> answered. >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> >> >> Fiona Asonga >> >> Chief Executive Officer >> >> Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ >> >> Kenya Internet Exchange Point >> >> 14th Floor, Bruce House >> >> Standard Street >> >> >> >> Tel: +254 20 2245 036 >> >> >> >> >> >> ?Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direct >> ion >> >> within the Industry and Government? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+tespok=tespok.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] >> On Behalf Of Rad! >> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:34 PM >> >> >> To: tespok(a)tespok.co.ke >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Internet Outage Tuesday Oct-13-2009 >> >> >> >> Come to think of it, is there some government body or other such >> entity, public or otherwise, that monitors this sort of thing? >> Internet uptime and connectivity is pretty much a national resource >> now -- disrupting the internet or the mobile telephone networks >> will definitely have an impact on the country and economy. Is there >> anyone monitoring this? >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Fiona Asonga <tespok(a)tespok.co.ke> >> wrote: >> >> Hallo Mwangi, >> >> >> >> I am not sure where you got your information from but based on >> monitoring tools statistics at the Kenya Internet Exchange Point >> none of the service providers you have listed had any problems. >> >> >> >> Hi Fiona, >> >> >> >> Last night, while connected via Safaricom 3G, and working on a >> server hosted at KDN by one of the providers, I lost connection to >> that server at around 10-ish and could not even ping it, though it >> was and still is UP so there's some credibility to the allegation. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." >> -- Lucky Dube >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: conradakunga(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c… >> >> >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4509 (20091015) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4510 (20091015) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4510 (20091015) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Munyao Longwe >> e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com >> cell: + 254 722 518 744 >> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com >> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4510 (20091015) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com

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FCC seeks your view on Berkman Broadband Study
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

Folks, The FCC is calling for your views through http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/index.do?document=293955 on the just completed Berkman Centre study on Next Generation Broadband for the US @ http://www.fcc.gov/stage/pdf/Berkman_Center_Broadband_Study_13Oct09.pdf Eric here Sorry for crossposting

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Kenya¹s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC
by Harry Hare 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

FYI http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-top-stories/214-kenyas-gakuru-is-afr ican-rep-in-ncuc.html Kindest regards Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

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Zain Blackout
by Shah, SurajX 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Safaricom's data service was completely down today from 10.00 a.m. to 4.00 p.m. Customer Service had no idea why or when service would resume. Is this even acceptable in this day and age? Is there no backup strategy? Or are they becoming like the good old KPLC? I agree with Benson Mbugua's suggestion. Regards Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel Corporation | Kenya | Office: 7th Floor, Purhsottam Place, Westlands Road next to CfC Stanbic Bank, Nairobi | Tel: +254 20 3601724 / 3601727 | Mobile: +254 722 412277 | Email: surajx.shah(a)intel.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 13 October 2009 17:09 To: Shah, SurajX Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 29, Issue 38 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Zain Blackout (Benson Mbugua) 2. Re: Zain Blackout (Gichuki John Chuksjonia) 3. use of freephone numbers in Kenya (waudo siganga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Benson Mbugua <mbugz(a)yahoo.com> To: John Kariuki <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: [kictanet] Zain Blackout Message-ID: <218996.4895.qm(a)web82404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yesterday I was not able to go online with my zain post paid modem. After a call to the customer service I was notified that their systems were down. If my memory serves me right, when jambonet was the only internet backbone/provider in the country, they were fined a huge sum of money for a similar incident. Is there any provision or consumer protection that could liase with Zain to credit users for the loss of service for a whole day or at least put a red flag for such an oversight. Ben ________________________________ From: John Kariuki <ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: mbugz(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Sat, October 10, 2009 8:45:02 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Call Drops & Regulatory Action Eric, Call drop is a measurable parameter which is one item in a broad array of measurements in what are often called "QUALITY OF SERVICE" in telecommunications.KCA 1998 has a provision on quality of service and consequently is of regulatory interest in accordance with the law. Just my opinion Eng.J.N.Kariuki --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Eric Aligula <jairah(a)KIPPRA.OR.KE> wrote: >From: Eric Aligula <jairah(a)KIPPRA.OR.KE> >Subject: [kictanet] Call Drops & Regulatory Action >To: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk >Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Date: Saturday, 10 October, 2009, 9:47 AM > > > > >Dear All: > >I am looking for any information / studies out there in respect of call drops and regulatory action. Specifically I am looking for information on any studies measuring the economic impact of call drops and regulatory action to deal with the same. > >Look forward to your feedback. > >Kind regards > >Eric Aligula Magolo, PhD >Senior Analyst >Infrastructure and Economic Services Division >Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and Analysis (KIPPRA) >P.O. Box 56445, 00200 Nairobi, Kenya >Telephone: +254-20-2719933/4 >Fax: +254-20-2719951 >E-mail: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke >URL: www.kippra.org > > >Proudly Kenyan >?In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility???.I welcome it.? >John F. Kennedy >"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." >Edmund Burke >"Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat." >Theodore Roosevelt >"Ex Africa semper aliquid novi" > >-----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >This message was sent to: ngethe.kariuki2007(a)yahoo.co.uk >Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngethe.kariuki2007%40y… >

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Call Drops & Regulatory Action
by Eric Aligula 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Dear All: I am looking for any information / studies out there in respect of call drops and regulatory action. Specifically I am looking for information on any studies measuring the economic impact of call drops and regulatory action to deal with the same. Look forward to your feedback. Kind regards Eric Aligula Magolo, PhD Senior Analyst Infrastructure and Economic Services Division Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and Analysis (KIPPRA) P.O. Box 56445, 00200 Nairobi, Kenya Telephone: +254-20-2719933/4 Fax: +254-20-2719951 E-mail: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke <mailto:jairah@kippra.or.ke> URL: www.kippra.org <http://www.kippra.org/> Proudly Kenyan "In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility..........I welcome it." John F. Kennedy "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke "Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Ex Africa semper aliquid novi"

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use of freephone numbers in Kenya
by waudo siganga 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Does anyone know if there is a policy in Kenya on the use of freephone numbers (0800 etc) in Kenya? Are these services banned? Freephone numbers allow callers to phone the subscriber free of charge with the subscriber paying the bill. Recently I was on an international conference call where the other participants had been provided with freephone numbers for their countries but none for Kenya. When I enquired I was informed that there is a problem with freephone services in Kenya, "apparently with local telecom services". Waudo

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Safaricom's low dividend payments
by michael Ouma 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi all: just wondering: would it make more sense for safaricom to just 'sambaza' airtime amounts equivalent to the dividend payments for those with less than say 2,000 shares (which translates to a dividend of khss 200), as i believe this would save them (shareholders) from having to incur the MPESA transaction fees of Kshs 30? what do others think? thanks. Michael Ouma Journalist Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254-725-537823 / +254-0731-201729 Email: benomnta(a)yahoo.com "There are risks and costs to a program of action, but they are far less than the long-range risks and costs of comfortable inaction," - JF Kennedy.

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TEAMS an open circuit
by robert yawe 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

Hi, I finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent me concerning the marine cable issue, which was comprehensive. My suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing the buck for failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age of connectivity. From the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow connectivity, we did not understand that the model for Internet access in the US cannot be applied in countries outside that continent as the bulk of the content is resident in the US. For a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an IT magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the village madman for advocating about the need to develop local content. I was incensed by the action by the then Karisa Communications (Makatiani & Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to shut down their bulleting board based service to provide us with the so called Internet connection yet we where on the right track as we created local content out of necessity. Today I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that the marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet access, you wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing its praises. I say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK & other), owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild goose chase. PS Ndemo the creation of local content falls smack in your docket and I have said this before all the government has to do is digitize all those reports in their possession beginning with the constitution, sessional papers, census, exam results, list of village polytechnics and the presidents diary then we can all move from their. Again thanks Walubengo. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
by Walubengo J 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

Robert, I am glad you liked the predictions I made last year about internet service costs. I am sure you might also like my suggested price-reduction mechanisms I am making this year @ http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf Unfortunately nobody listens to Academicians in these parts of the world - no wonder most lecturers abandon classroom to become politicians...so that someone can listen to them ;-). What's more I get worried when I look at some of the approaches and strategies the regulator CCK has proposed as a way of containing Tariffs (including internet pricing?) from Operators (Licensees). But since I am not an Operator, I will leave it for the Operators to present their case...but they will be hard-pressed to explain whey they should not be considered biased...cant wait for that stakeholders meeting. As for the PS to apologise...he is of age to decide for himself. But he could learn from that Politician who had promised us a Constitution in 100days. He didnt deny it - he just clarified that the days were not consecutive days ;-). And so it is the same with the internet costs. Prices will indeed come down as promised. But obviously not tomorrow. regards. walu. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:27 PM Hi, I finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent me concerning the marine cable issue, which was comprehensive. My suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing the buck for failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age of connectivity. From the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow connectivity, we did not understand that the model for Internet access in the US cannot be applied in countries outside that continent as the bulk of the content is resident in the US . For a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an IT magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the village madman for advocating about the need to develop local content. I was incensed by the action by the then Karisa Communications (Makatiani & Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to shut down their bulleting board based service to provide us with the so called Internet connection yet we where on the right track as we created local content out of necessity. Today I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that the marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet access, you wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing its praises. I say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK & other), owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild goose chase. PS Ndemo the creation of local content falls smack in your docket and I have said this before all the government has to do is digitize all those reports in their possession beginning with the constitution, sessional papers, census, exam results, list of village polytechnics and the presidents diary then we can all move from their. Again thanks Walubengo. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM McTim, Kai, I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this issue. But I cant blame you. It's not something one can explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a full-semester course issue... but here could be some highlights. http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf walu. --- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM > Hi Robert, > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not > gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the > answer. > > > > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that > Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected > to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. > Where did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to > Fujaira? > > > > SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in > Fujiarah. I assume > there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at > that > physical location. > > > > > > What this statement would suggest is that the > termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the > Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where > the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them > onto the Internet. > > > > That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well. > > > > > > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity > issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect > electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had > already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets > and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a > light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and > having bought and installed an energy saving bulb). > > The analogy is flawed. The power company is a service > provider, the > submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as > such. > > Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you > consume. > > light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2). Internet > Packets (Layer 3 and > higher) are encoded in this light. > > > > > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable > termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit > and also many others out there. > > TEAMS cable carries light waves. The investors in > TEAMS have the > right to this capacity. ISPs have to buy transit > (their Internet > access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other > players). As > an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some > location > (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul > it to > Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE. > > Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing, > sorry. > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where > it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.…

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Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection - Safaricom
by alice＠apc.org 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

I agree with P.S Ndemo. We need to not only make reference to the draft/proposed regulations but also in this case the specific consumer provisions. But while, the draft regulations have specific consumer provisions, technological developments and convergence provide some challenges that may not necessarily be fully addressed by the specific consumer provision, so would offer to suggest that we look at all of the regulations including e-transactions, etc. I also think we may need to think about additional laws and regulations that are focused on consumer protection matters generally and not only the in the ICT sector. Best alice p.s: views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the institutions/organisations I am affiliated with. > Mr. Mwangi, > The Government has published consumer regulations and sort comments from > consumers. How comes that you are not making reference to those > regulations with respect to this case? The Government can only deal with > broad policy reforms not case by case. We need your comments on the way > forward. > > > Regards > > Ndemo. > > > > > >> Wamuyu et al >> >> I've been reading this email trail and I too am surprised that we don't >> have >> anyone from the government making any comments. From the CCK, Ministry of >> Information, CBK nor or esteem lawyers. >> Last time I checked there was a division in the CCK that was created for >> consumer protect the interests of consumers of communications services in >> Kenya will be better protected, following the creation of a Consumer >> Affairs >> Division at CCK. The new division will be responsible for strengthening >> the >> Commission's capacity to discharge its consumer protection roles. The >> creation of the division has been necessitated by the increase in the >> number >> of players in the communications sector, incidences of non-compliance to >> licence conditions and violation of the rights of consumers. " >> here is what there say on thier site >> http://www.cck.go.ke/consumer_center/ >> >> "The Commission also comes to the aid of consumers by helping them resolve >> long-standing complaints or disputes with their service providers. The >> Commission does this on those instances where the consumers have made >> several attempts to have them resolved, but have either received no >> response >> or have not received a satisfactory response. The Commission is exploring >> ways of assisting consumers that opt for litigation. You can get more >> information, including the procedure for filing complaints, through the >> useful links provided below." >> >> Cheers >> Steve >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Sam Gatere <sam.gatere(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wamuyu, >>> >>> Very interesting Consumer issue you bring up. It brings to mind when >>> Zain >>> started off as KenCell they would charge you for topping up! remember >>> the >>> 40bob that you would have to part with when you load a Kes 300 voucher? >>> That >>> small problem was corrected by the market! It appears this "loan" >>> facility >>> as Nyaki puts it may be corrected by competition. Once another provider >>> offers something similar at no Charge then you will see that Charge >>> disappear! However I think a your question needs an answer that I would >>> love >>> to hear.... where does one really complain for this type of customer >>> related >>> issue.... >>> >>> >>> SammyG. >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Wamuyu Gatheru >>> <wamuyulearn(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am a Consultant in Public Sector Governance who finds this list a most >>>> informative one ...a good example of how to dialogue for policy making. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a question. Where do I complain about Safaricom charging a Kshs >>>> 5 >>>> fee for their Kshs 50 credit advance service. Is this common in >>>> pricing? - >>>> For a company to charge a fee on a payment made to them? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, Wamuyu >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> This message was sent to: sam.gatere(a)gmail.com >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sam.gatere%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: smwngi(a)gmail.com >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/smwngi%40gmail.com >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: alice(a)apc.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org >

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Re: [kictanet] Consumer Protection - Safaricom
by alice＠apc.org 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

Hello Rad, Great observations and suggestions. Urging all to please look at the regulation and not just the specific consumer provisions but all to ensure we take into consideration all the consumer issues. thank you best alice p.s views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the institutions/organisations I am affiliated with. --------------- > In this era of real time cheque clearing, electronic payment and broadband internet such a token attempt at customer service boggles the mind. > > It is in everyone's best interests, including the CCK to completely automate this procedure. This should be something done completely online Users would then: > > 1. Browse to the complaint section > 2. Enter their information (In my dream world one day all goverment databases will be integrated so I can just provide my PIN) > 3. Select from a list of providers (Currently I have to do extra work to find out the provider's details) > 4. Select from the type of complaints > 5. Provide commentary and upload supporting documents > 6. Be assigned a case number that they can use as a reference to track status online > 7. Be able to browse providers by complaints -- suitably anonymized, perhaps just the complaint types and unsettled issues and make informed decisions > 8. Providers can even be granted logins to the portal or the data can be sent to them via email or RSS for action > 9. Be able to get some metrics (both from CCK as well as end user perspectives) as to > 1. How quickly providers close issues > 2. Which providers are complained about the most > 3. What are the most common complaints across providers > 4. Which sector raises the most issues > > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I also have the same query regarding the complaints. As we wait for > the regulations to be passed and be part of the existing laws, where > will the suffering subscribers really take their complaints? > If CCK could offer a clear 'ad hoc' place where such complaints could > be sent and acted upon, it would be grateful as there is nothing right > when people complain and there is no place to take a complaint. > > Maybe Dr. Ndemo can shed some light on this. > > My little thoughts > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: alice(a)apc.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Anyone lost their Orange bundle?(been sorted)
by Judy Okite 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Hi All, just to let you know that I have just been sorted(6.15pm)....it is indeed very sad if it has to take the 'big guy' to cough for issues to be sorted...what of those who do not have any way of reaching him? in the recently concluded EA-IGF.... consumer issues were numerous...from wrong biling, to skewed marketing to lack of well informed CC.... however two things stood out; consumers are ignorant(barely know their rights) and service providers DO NOT share their complaints data....hence making it very difficult for anyone to know the type of complaints and whether they have been attended to. for things to change we all have a role to play....find yours and play it... thanx to all who felt me :-) and those who made phone calls behind the scene,coz someone surely did. Kind Regards, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Judy, I'll send you their MD's email, off-list. regards. > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Judy Okite <judyokite(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I thought to share this and stop suffering alone, coz someone may be on > the > > same boat....... > > on friday night, I had 157MB of bundle on internet everywhere > > modem......33minutes of processing email, it disconnects...checking my > > balance,i have 7.17MB of bundle... and of course the same story...were > > looking into it....were looking into it....we will call you....... > > so by Sunday nigh....I got to do some stuff so I load with 870 to buy 250 > > bundles and I had 16.50 ksh remaining.....this was at 11.03pm. at 11.15pm > it > > disconnects and what happens I have 6.75MB. > > so on monday am to call........talked to everyone.....some supervisor by > the > > name Lou...very rude guy........besides the point...by Monday evening > > nothing had been done,no phone call....nothing! > > > > Tuesday, I was at GPO 2nd floor at 11am...left at 3pm.......what did I > leave > > with there? > > Some Manager by the name of Mark...assuring me that it will be sorted > before > > 5'oclock...there system had a problem between friday night and sunday > > night....so they are rebating as guys report......so I took his number > and > > left. > > Wednesday, I call Mark at 10am..".what is happening"? "I am not in the > > office let me call you when I get there".................so I call him at > > 3pm...24hrs later after I was in his office...... > > "I have forwarded your complain,with the others.....so I will call > > you...when I get a response".......Sir youre talking like am in your > > office....its 24hrs later....you have forwarded? > > so I call Mark 5mins to 5...he does not pick his phone...for obvious > > reasons.....the whole day thursday...he is not answering his phone....I > do > > not have my bundles................what a frustration! > > > > I havent seen this on the media.......which is > > very unfortunate.........because I was hoping that they could have > > apologised to their consumers.....our systems were down.so if you lost > > bundles,then get in touch. nothing ! > > my conclusions; either someone is completely incompetent or this is the > way > > to thiefery....hoping that you will be exhausted calling and following > > up...and they call it a day! > > Does anyone have a contact of someone I should visit tomorrow....to get > this > > sorted? > > Kind Regards, > > > > -- > > "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in > the > > first place." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ke-internetusers mailing list > > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > > > > -- "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."

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Off Topic: water company contacts (was Re: Consumer Protection - Safaricom
by McTim 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >irresponsibility all around us. That is why employee theft is a >major threat to our progress. Speaking of ...does anyone have the email address of the CFO or CEO at Nairobi Water? I had a guy come to my house today with the dodgiest looking water bill in history, methinks it's an employee scam. Their website is badly broken and info@ gives me no love. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Call for Nominations "Breaking Borders Award"
by alice＠apc.org 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Call for Nominations "Breaking Borders Award" On November 3rd 2009, Google and Reporters without Borders will hold an event entitled "Breaking Borders" to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. We'd like to take this opportunity to highlight the importance of free expression around the world and send a clear message to repressive regimes that censor content both online and offline by honoring outstanding individuals or groups, who have shown courage, energy and resourcefulness in using the internet to promote freedom of expression, ensure that diverse political viewpoints are heard and stand up to those who censor information. Therefore Google and Reporters without Borders invite you to nominate candidates for the Breaking Borders Award. We encourage you to share this Call for Nominations with others who might wish to submit a nomination. Nomination & Selection Procedure Please send your nominations until the 20th of October to breakingborders(a)google.com. As part of your nomination please send us the name (contact if possible), references (URLs or attachments), as well as at least one other person who can assess the nominee's work. Nominations will be forwarded to the designated Award Committee consisting of selected experts from Reporters without Borders and Google. Background Information Breaking Borders Event Twenty years ago, the fall of the Berlin Wall became a striking symbol for freedom and self-determination far beyond the borders of Germany. But in many places around the world today, people are still struggling take hold of the right to express their thoughts and beliefs freely and openly. Dissidents and journalists remain under severe pressure, and their voices are all too often silenced by force. Google and Reporters without Borders have partnered to celebrate and advocate for the importance of freedom of expression and the role the internet plays in allowing each and everyone to freely participate in our global discourse. Today, the Internet continues to be an increasingly populous and powerful medium for spreading opinions across the spectrum throughout the globe. The estimated number of blogs has grown to 110 million last year from fewer than two million in 2004. Expression through online video has become so popular that 20 hours of videos are uploaded to YouTube every minute, and hundreds of millions of videos are watched on the site everyday. Even in countries where governments engage in heavy censorship, the Internet has nevertheless proven to be an effective tool for sharing information and promoting political change. --------------------------------------- Dr. Max Senges Multistakeholder Cooperations Unter den Linden 21 10117 Berlin mobile: +49 1622122755 office: + 49 30303986362 www.maxsenges.com (google internal http://go/maxsenges) AG Hamburg, HRB 86891 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamburg Geschäftsführer: Nikesh Arora, John Herlihy, Graham Law, Lloyd Martin, Kent Walker

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Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
by Akich Kwach 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Kai, That was and remains a smart strategy. The truth is we can never get rid of satelite technology, we can only reduce its reliance as it will stil continue to serve the maginalised areas where it might take ages to roll out fibre. So my question is; What would have motivated some operators to sign contract with satelite companies for such a long duration, taking into account the fast changing glogal trends? I may be wrong, but such arrangements could have been intentional and personalised, hence should be scrutinised by the regulator. Akich Kwach ----- Original Message ----- From: kai wulff To: kwach(a)archway-productions.com Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit KDN had about 1000Mbps on Sat with contracts that were month to month. We retained approx. 250Mbps for redundancy (we could have dropped it but decided we need a plan B just in case). I don’t think that anybody can hold us hostage … Kai Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von S.Murigi Muraya Gesendet: Friday, October 09, 2009 00:02 An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit Why has KDN been able to lower their Internet prices by 90%? Is it that they do not have 25 year contracts with the satellite companies that are holding us hostage? Walubengo J wrote: Robert, I am glad you liked the predictions I made last year about internet service costs. I am sure you might also like my suggested price-reduction mechanisms I am making this year @ http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf Unfortunately nobody listens to Academicians in these parts of the world - no wonder most lecturers abandon classroom to become politicians...so that someone can listen to them ;-). What's more I get worried when I look at some of the approaches and strategies the regulator CCK has proposed as a way of containing Tariffs (including internet pricing?) from Operators (Licensees). But since I am not an Operator, I will leave it for the Operators to present their case...but they will be hard-pressed to explain whey they should not be considered biased...cant wait for that stakeholders meeting. As for the PS to apologise...he is of age to decide for himself. But he could learn from that Politician who had promised us a Constitution in 100days. He didnt deny it - he just clarified that the days were not consecutive days ;-). And so it is the same with the internet costs. Prices will indeed come down as promised. But obviously not tomorrow. regards. walu. --- On Thu, 10/8/09, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:27 PM Hi, I finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent me concerning the marine cable issue, which was comprehensive. My suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing the buck for failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age of connectivity. From the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow connectivity, we did not understand that the model for Internet access in the US cannot be applied in countries outside that continent as the bulk of the content is resident in the US . For a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an IT magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the village madman for advocating about the need to develop local content. I was incensed by the action by the then Karisa Communications (Makatiani & Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to shut down their bulleting board based service to provide us with the so called Internet connection yet we where on the right track as we created local content out of necessity. Today I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that the marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet access, you wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing its praises. I say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK & other), owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild goose chase. PS Ndemo the creation of local content falls smack in your docket and I have said this before all the government has to do is digitize all those reports in their possession beginning with the constitution, sessional papers, census, exam results, list of village polytechnics and the presidents diary then we can all move from their. Again thanks Walubengo. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM McTim, Kai, I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this issue. But I cant blame you. It's not something one can explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a full-semester course issue... but here could be some highlights. http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf walu. --- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM > Hi Robert, > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not > gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the > answer. > > > > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that > Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected > to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. > Where did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to > Fujaira? > > > > SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in > Fujiarah. I assume > there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at > that > physical location. > > > > > > What this statement would suggest is that the > termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the > Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where > the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them > onto the Internet. > > > > That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well. > > > > > > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity > issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect > electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had > already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets > and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a > light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and > having bought and installed an energy saving bulb). > > The analogy is flawed. The power company is a service > provider, the > submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as > such. > > Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you > consume. > > light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2). Internet > Packets (Layer 3 and > higher) are encoded in this light. > > > > > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable > termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit > and also many others out there. > > TEAMS cable carries light waves. The investors in > TEAMS have the > right to this capacity. ISPs have to buy transit > (their Internet > access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other > players). As > an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some > location > (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul > it to > Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE. > > Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing, > sorry. > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where > it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________kictanet mailing listkictanet@lists.kictanet.or.kehttp://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: murigi.muraya(a)gmail.comUnsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kwach(a)archway-productions.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kwach%40archway-produc…

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Anyone lost their Orange bundle?
by Judy Okite 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Dear All, I thought to share this and stop suffering alone, coz someone may be on the same boat....... on friday night, I had 157MB of bundle on internet everywhere modem......33minutes of processing email, it disconnects...checking my balance,i have 7.17MB of bundle... and of course the same story...were looking into it....were looking into it....we will call you....... so by Sunday nigh....I got to do some stuff so I load with 870 to buy 250 bundles and I had 16.50 ksh remaining.....this was at 11.03pm. at 11.15pm it disconnects and what happens I have 6.75MB. so on monday am to call........talked to everyone.....some supervisor by the name Lou...very rude guy........besides the point...by Monday evening nothing had been done,no phone call....nothing! Tuesday, I was at GPO 2nd floor at 11am...left at 3pm.......what did I leave with there? Some Manager by the name of Mark...assuring me that it will be sorted before 5'oclock...there system had a problem between friday night and sunday night....so they are rebating as guys report......so I took his number and left. Wednesday, I call Mark at 10am..".what is happening"? "I am not in the office let me call you when I get there".................so I call him at 3pm...24hrs later after I was in his office...... "I have forwarded your complain,with the others.....so I will call you...when I get a response".......Sir youre talking like am in your office....its 24hrs later....you have forwarded? so I call Mark 5mins to 5...he does not pick his phone...for obvious reasons.....the whole day thursday...he is not answering his phone....I do not have my bundles................what a frustration! I havent seen this on the media.......which is very unfortunate.........because I was hoping that they could have apologised to their consumers.....our systems were down.so if you lost bundles,then get in touch. nothing ! my conclusions; either someone is completely incompetent or this is the way to thiefery....hoping that you will be exhausted calling and following up...and they call it a day! Does anyone have a contact of someone I should visit tomorrow....to get this sorted? Kind Regards, -- "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."

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Call for Proposal for the Amy Mahan Research Fellowship Program
by alice＠apc.org 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Please find attached a Call for Proposal for the Amy Mahan Research Fellowship Program. Website: http://www.upf.edu/amymahan Up to 12 Research Fellowships will be awarded, each providing a grant of up to 22,000 and specialized guidance to enable emerging scholars to carry out their own new and original study examining the impact of public access to information and communication technologies (ICT). Emerging developing country researchers from Africa, the Middle East, the Asia Pacific region and Latin America and the Caribbean are invited to apply for the Fellowship. The deadline for applying is Midnight Eastern Standard Time, 31 December 2009. Applications may be submitted in English, French, Portuguese or Spanish. Please disseminate this announcement to other researchers and scholars who might be interested. Thank you Abi Jagun

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FW: GUN IN CELLPHONE DECOY - BE CAREFUL
by Edith Adera 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

We are living in a dangerous world - converged world! Mobile and guns! Read more below... Subject: GUN IN CELLPHONE DECOY - BE CAREFUL Most of us see airport security as a pain. Some of us even feel violated. When you see the below pictures, you'll understand why they want our cell phones through the x-ray machine. If you get asked to test your cell phone at the airport, this is the reason. Cell phone guns have arrived. <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> AND they are real. <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> Beneath the digital phone face is a .22 caliber handgun capable of firing four rounds in rapid succession using the standard telephone keypad. European law enforcement officials are stunned by the discovery of these deadly decoys. They say phone guns are changing the rules of engagement in Europe. Only when you have one in your hand do you realize that they are heavier than a regular cell phone.<http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> Be patient if security asks to look at your cell phone or turn it on to show that it works. They have a good reason! Wake up to our NEW WORLD!! We shouldn't complain about airport security 'invading your privacy. <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> [cid:1.1698115242@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com] <http://www.funfunky.com/viewforum.php?f=40> At first sight you will think the piece below is a mobile phone, but you will discover that you are wrong by taking a critical look at it the second time. This is a real, functional and deadly gun. Pls disseminate this information to all people in your area. Pls sensitise all the security guards on this latest development.. ________________________________ Note: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named addressee. Emails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. Safaricom Limited does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this email if the same is found to have been altered or manipulated. The contents and opinions expressed in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Safaricom Limited. Safaricom Limited disclaims any liability to the fullest extent permissible by law for any consequences that may arise from the contents of this email including but not limited to personal opinions, malicious and/or defamatory information and data/codes that may compromise or damage the integrity of the recipient’s information technology systems.. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender and immediately delete this email from your system.Unless expressly stated by a duly authorised officer of Safaricom Limited nothing contained in this email message may be construed as being an offer to contract or an acceptance of an offer capable of constituting a contract between Safaricom Limited and any recipient(s) of this email. ________________________________

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World War III could be fought on Internet, says ITU head
by Harry Hare 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

FYI... http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-main-stories/231-world-war-iii-could -be-fought-on-internet-says-itu-head.html Kindest Regards Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC
by Shah, SurajX 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Alex Congratulations on this position. Let me know if Intel can support in any way; we have a host of information on the subject. Regards Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel Corporation | Kenya | Office: 7th Floor, Purhsottam Place, Westlands Road next to CfC Stanbic Bank, Nairobi | Tel: +254 20 3601724 / 3601727 | Mobile: +254 722 412277 | Email: surajx.shah(a)intel.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 06 October 2009 11:42 To: Shah, SurajX Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 29, Issue 15 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC (Brian Munyao Longwe) 2. Re: Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC (Milton Aineruhanga) 3. The great debate: Who should regulate M-Pesa and ZAP? (Zachary Ochieng) 4. Re: Consumer Protection - Safaricom (Catherine Adeya) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:23:10 +0300 From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC Message-ID: <fbcfc1d0910052223o4e1a0a31xac92120b57575442(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Alex, Congratulations on this position. It will definitely give you much insight into the dynamics of global internet governance issues, the power plays that occur at that level and I can promise you that your personality skills will definitely grow! Best regards, Brian On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Jotham Kilimo Mwale <jokilimo(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > Alex, congrats!! > > Jotham > > --- On *Sat, 10/3/09, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: > > > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC > To: jokilimo(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 9:28 AM > > > Congrats Alex. > > Finally your Consumer-focus is getting international recognition. Prophets > are rarely recognized at home ;-) > > walu. > > --- On *Fri, 10/2/09, Harry Hare <harry(a)africanedevelopment.org>* wrote: > > > From: Harry Hare <harry(a)africanedevelopment.org> > Subject: [kictanet] Kenya?s Gakuru is Africa's rep in NCUC > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:04 PM > > FYI > > > http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-top-stories/214-kenyas-gakuru-is-afr > ican-rep-in-ncuc.html > > > Kindest regards > Harry > > African eDevelopment Resource Centre > eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road > Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 > Nairobi : : Kenya > T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 > > Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://us.mc366.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jokilimo(a)yahoo.com<http://us.mc366.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jokilimo@yahoo.com> > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jokilimo%40yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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The great debate: Who should regulate M-Pesa and ZAP?
by Zachary Ochieng 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Dear all, Kindly follow this link for the above debate. Sample how CBK, CCK and industry players are arguing about who shold regulate mobile banking and m-money services. http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-main-stories/237-banking-at-your-fi… Thanks. Zachary. --- Be the change you want to see in the world.

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International Computer Games Association Events 2010
by waudo siganga 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

----- Original message ----- From: "J.W. Hellemons" <J.W.Hellemons(a)uvt.nl> To: "'J.W. Hellemons'" <J.W.Hellemons(a)uvt.nl> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:50:22 +0200 Subject: Announcement ICGA Events 2010 18th World Computer Chess Championship World Chess Software Championship World Computer Chess Blitz Championship JAIST Computer Olympiad International Conference on Computers and Games 2010 Kanazawa, Japan : September 24th to October 2nd 2010 The ICGA is delighted to announce that our events for 2010 will be held in Kanazawa, Japan, hosted by the Japan Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (JAIST). The contract for hosting this event was signed on October 5th in Kanazawa by ICGA President David Levy and JAIST President Takuya Katayama. The provisional dates are September 24th to October 2nd 2010. 2010 is the 20th anniversary of the founding of JAIST and our events will form an important role in their anniversary celebrations. Kanazawa is a city with a strong cultural identity. One of the most important sights in the city is Kenroku-en Garden, which is one of the three most beautiful gardens in Japan. JAIST have generously made available funding to enable us to provide financial support of 1,000 Euro for 10 of the participating teams in the World Computer Chess Championship, in order to defray their travel and accommodation costs. Full details will be made available in due course. This announcement serves also as a call for papers for the International Conference on Computer Games (2010). Full details of the conference will be available in due course.

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Fwd: ICANN Announces Important Milestones in Making the Internet More Accessible to All
by waudo siganga 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Apologies for any cross-posting IDNs DAG3 IRT http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-04oct09-en.htm العربية 中文 English Français Español Русский 日本語 Deutsch Português 한국어 Italiano ICANN Announces Important Milestones in Making the Internet More Accessible to All 4 October 2009 In the past several days, ICANN has announced recent milestones regarding changes in how the Internet community will use the Internet in the near future. These important developments include the plan for deployment of Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) in the next few months and significant progress in developing the model for delegating new generic top-level domains (gTLDs). Proposed Final Implementation Plan: IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/idn-cctld-implement ation-plan-30sep09-en.pdf ICANN is pleased to announce the public posting of the Proposed Final Implementation Plan for the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process. The IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process is an important step at making the Internet equally accessible for everyone. It will enable the introduction of a limited number of internationalized country-code top level domain names (IDN ccTLDs). As noted by ICANN CEO Rod Beckstrom, once implemented, this will be the first time that users can obtain a domain name with the entire string in characters other than ASCII (or Latin) characters, "this is one of the most exciting developments for the users of the Internet globally in years. IDNs will enable the people the world over to use domain name addresses in their own language." The process will be available to all countries and territories where the official language is based on scripts other than the Latin (extended) script. IDNs, like the Affirmation of Commitments announced last week (www.icann.org ) are another step towards making the Internet more truly global to achieve our goal of "one world, one Internet, everyone connected." The proposed final plan is scheduled for ICANN Board consideration at the ICANN meeting in Seoul, Korea, 26-30 October 2009. The proposed launch date for the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process is 16 November 2009. ICANN is looking forward to feedback on the final plan in the public comment forum designated for that purpose. The proposed final plan has been developed based on responses to community comments and discussions. See the latest status update at: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-09sep09-en.h tm. Responding to Public Comment: Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook A Work In Progress http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm The latest draft of the Applicant Guidebook that describes the process of applying for new generic top-level domains (gTLDs) was released today. New gTLDs are expected to bring innovative services and greater choice to Internet users through increased competition and engender broad participation through the introduction of IDNs and community-based TLDs into the Domain Name System. In the last three months, the community has joined in extensive collaborative efforts on technical, intellectual property, potential for malicious conduct, and other matters, with global consultations in New York, Sydney, London, Hong Kong and Abu Dhabi. The Guidebook has been changed significantly. As indicated by ICANN Chief Operating Officer, Doug Brent, "this third version of draft guidebook represents months of outstanding effort by many in the ICANN community - working to resolve the few, challenging remaining issues. This version is being released with materials that describe how public comment has influenced the changes presented in it." In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the "redline" version of the Guidebook. In addition to specific trademark protections (described below) the new Guidebook includes: •Measures to prevent or mitigate potential for malicious conduct including a proposal to create high-security zones; •Enhanced stability / security measures, requiring DNSSEC deployment and prohibiting use of wildcards; •Protecting registrants by taking step to ensure registry viability: defining a financial instrument that will ensure ongoing registry operations in the event of failure, and specifying certain pre-delegation registry tests; and •Enhanced contractual tools through the development of post-delegation dispute procedures including one to ensure that community-based TLDs adhere to their self-described purpose. Like all previous versions, this draft is posted for public comment. It has been released prior to the ICANN meeting to be held in Seoul from October 25-30. During the Seoul meeting ICANN will conduct several sessions to facilitate discussion of this version of the Applicant Guidebook and finding solutions to the outstanding issues. Information about additional events will be available on the Seoul Meeting schedule at: http://sel.icann.org/full-sched. Trademark Protection Measures – Where to next? http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/gnso-consultations-repor ts-en.htm Specific trademark protection mechanisms are still to be decided upon by the Board. After receiving trademark protection recommendations from the Implementation Recommendation Team and others, taking extensive comment and conducting consultation with the broad community, ICANN has drafted a set of implementation recommendations related to intellectual property protections for the new gTLD program. Additional rights protection included in the Guidebook are the: •requirement to maintain a "thick" Whois database, and •specification of a post-delegation dispute procedure so that trademark holders can lodge complaints of abusive behavior against registries when merited. For other proposed rights protection mechanisms, the Board is providing the Generic Names Supporting Organization (the policy organization that developed the new gTLDs policy) with the opportunity to offer focused input on this specific area of the proposed implementation plan that is being published now. Those proposed rights protection mechanisms are: •The creation of an IP Clearinghouse, which is a database of validated trademarks to be utilized by new gTLD registry operators in implementing either an IP Claims service or Sunrise process during TLD launch; and •The creation of a Uniform Rapid Suspension process for use in clear-cut, blatant cases of trademark infringement. The community at-large may also comment on these specific issues, and of course, any other new gTLD issues through comment fora found on the new gTLD pages. The public comment period on these trademark protection solutions will be open until 22 November 2009. Please continue checking the New gTLD program webpage for updates. Prior to implementation, ICANN will work with the community to address remaining issues including: competition, consumer protection, security, stability and resiliency, malicious abuse issues, sovereignty concerns, and rights protection. Related links New gTLD program webpage: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm Seoul meeting: http://sel.icann.org/ Media Contact: Michele Jourdan Corporate Affairs ICANN Ph: +1-310-301-5831 E: michele.jourdan(a)icann.org

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Public Comments are open now on Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook
by alice＠apc.org 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Please note: Public Comments are open now on Version 3 of New gTLD Applicant Guidebook http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#agbv3 Open: 4 October 09 Closed: 22 November 09 Explanation/Background: Explanation: The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3 is now available for review and comment at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm. The Guidebook has been changed significantly. In all, there are over 50 areas of change, clearly indicated in the "redline" version of the Guidebook. All materials are in draft form for public comment and review. Your comments will help with the production of the next version of the Applicant Guidebook. Further details about the New gTLD Program can be found at: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtld-program.htm. The Draft Applicant Guidebook, V3, and accompanying papers, will be made available in Arabic, Chinese, French, Russian, Korean and Spanish in the near future. Staff member responsible: Carole Cornell | More information please Announcement | Comments http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm | Add a comment | http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/comments-3-en.htm Summary/analysis of comments Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org

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NCUC Annual Election results
by wesley kirinya 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Got this one, thought it's worth sharing. "The 2009 NCUC Annual Election results are now in. The complete results can be viewed directly online at: http://registro.br/ncuc/result/ Thank you to Carlos Afonso and the gentle folk at NIC.br for holding the election and managing its process. Thank you to all the candidates who stood in our most robust NCUC election EVER! Congrats to the new representatives! Best, Robin Final Results: Executive Committee Africa: Alex Gakuru Executive Committee Asia: David Cake Executive Committee Europe: Konstantinos Komaitis Executive Committee North America: Brenden Kuerbis Executive Committee South America: Carlos Affonso de Souza GNSO Council: Wendy Seltzer NCUC Chair: Robin Gross Charter revisions approved ---- What is NCUC: The NCUC is the home for civil society organizations and individuals in the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO). With real voting power in ICANN policy-making and Board selection, it develops and supports positions that favor non-commercial communication and activity on the Internet. The NCUC is open to non-commercial organizations and individuals involved in education, community networking, public policy advocacy, development, promotion of the arts, children's welfare, religion, consumer protection, scientific research, human rights and many other areas. http://ncdnhc.org"

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Visit my Netlog profile
by Thomas Senaji 04 Oct '09

04 Oct '09

Hey, I have created a Netlog profile with my pictures, videos, blogs and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. You first need to register on Netlog! When you log in, you can create your own profile. Take a look: http://en.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=518182117&id=1&url=-L2… Cheers, Thomas ---------------------------------------------------------------- Don't want to receive invitations from your friends anymore? http://en.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=518182117&id=2&url=-L2…

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TEAMS and Open ended circuit
by robert yawe 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the answer. The headline in the newpaper story indicated that Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. Where did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to Fujaira? What this statement would suggest is that the termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them onto the Internet. Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and having bought and installed an energy saving bulb). To the best of my knowledge Kenya Power Transmission Company does not need to be notified to connect my house to the grid and by extension Kengen do not require to be notified to connect me to a generating station whether geothermal, hydro or thermal. Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit and also many others out there. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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ICT Territory Manager
by Catherine Adeya 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

Any takers? Nyaki ________________________________

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Academic Vacancy in ICTs and Development: Manchester Centre for Development Informatics]
by alice 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Lecturer in Information Systems and Development The University of Manchester is seeking a lecturer to teach Master's modules on information systems and development; undertake research on information systems, ICTs and development; and contribute to development of a distance learning Master's programme. The lecturer will be a staff member of the Institute for Development Policy and Management (http://www.sed.manchester.ac.uk/idpm) IDPM provides globally-recognised research, postgraduate-only training, and consultancy in international development and management. It was rated first in development studies in research power terms by the recent UK Research Assessment Exercise. The lecturer will be part of the University's new Centre for Development Informatics (http://www.manchester.ac.uk/cdi) the leading academic centre working on ICTs and international development. The appointed candidate will be educated to at least Master's level with a track record of information systems teaching, research and publications, and with direct experience of information systems in developing economies. For those candidates who lack a sufficient research track record, appointment as a Teaching Fellow may be considered. Full details of the essential and desirable person specification requirements can be found in the further particulars. The appointment is for two years initially from 1 Jan 2010 or as soon as possible thereafter, with the likelihood of extension. Salary in the range £32,458-£35,469 per annum. Closing date for applications: 26 October 2009 Links to further particulars, application forms and guidance notes: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/jobs/academic/vacancy/index.htm?ref=165… Richard Heeks Director Centre for Development Informatics IDPM, SED, University of Manchester, UK richard.heeks(a)manchester.ac.uk

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MPESA - Monopolies commission
by robert yawe 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi, I have been monitoring the growth of MPesa and I am getting concerned that we shall soon be held ransom if its growth is not monitored and their none competitive activities stopped. We are more concerned about number portability yet this will only benefit a few foreign investors yet mpesa has become so pervasive yet the tax consuming regulators do nothing to protect the consumer. The success of safaricoms mpesa has been so meteoric that it has scollen their heads to the point that there officers have become more powerful than the dreaded mungiki. They determine who can open an outlet where and which outlet will be shutdown. On the other extreme is the terms that the agents are giving such as they cannot provide the services of a competing provider. Imagine if KCC or Elliots wher giving the power to determine who can ot cannot sell their products and also require that you do not sell a competing product where would the milk and bread industry be today. If even KBL realised that a retailer must be free to decide which products to sell and not be bullied into selling the products of a particular brewer. Competition is about a level playing field of which the money transfer business it not, why should a grandmother in Budalangi or Kangaita who has a Zaine line be denied the opportunity to receive funds from her grand children because the only shop keeper within a 5 KM radius of her home is not allowed to offer multiple money transfer products, yet he can sell Tuzo, Brookside, Fresha, Haifa or any other brand of milk. We are regressing very first and unless the regulators do what they are paid to do with our hard earned taxes then we soon shall be be cornered. This keeps looking like the mark of the demon that is quoted in the bible. Somebody stop this madness. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Fwd: Judge Orders Google to Deactivate Account
by Brian Munyao Longwe 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Interesting debate on this issue..... Brian --Judge Orders Google to Deactivate Account (September 24 & 28, 2009) A US District Court Judge in California has ordered Google to deactivate the Gmail account of a user who was accidentally sent confidential bank information. An employee of Wyoming-based Rocky Mountain Bank sent the data to the account in error; the data include names, Social Security Numbers (SSNs) and loan information of more than 1,300 bank customers. Upon recognizing the mistake, the bank sent another email to the same address, requesting that the recipient destroy the previous email and contact Rocky Mountain Bank. After receiving no reply, the bank asked Google for information about the account holder. Google said that it would not surrender any information without a court order. The judge's order is controversial because it appears to violate the account holder's First Amendment rights. Additionally, deactivating an individual's Gmail account could have far-reaching effects. http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=1142… http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/28/google_rocky_mountain_bank_suit_rol… [Editor's Note (Northcutt): I had to read this, drink a cup of hot tea, and read it again to comprehend how significant this case is. Please take the time to read the story. There are a couple of issues here. One is that the legal system follows technology by some number of years. Looking backward five years, you can sort of see Judge Ware's point of view, "It is just an email account, the person can get another one." Looking forward two or three years, in the words of Charlene Li, "In the future, two pieces of information will identify you, your email address and your mobile phone number". Bottom line, Judge Ware made a bad call.] -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Economist.com: A special report on telecoms in emerging markets
by saidimu apale 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

On this week's print edition: The leader article: http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=14505519 The rest of the special report: http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14483896 Not very much is news, but an interesting read nonetheless. Saidi

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Internationalization of the Internet Marks Historic Agreement
by Brian Munyao Longwe 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anne-Rachel Inne <anne-rachel.inne(a)icann.org> Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:02 PM Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] FW: Internationalization of the Internet Marks Historic Agreement To: "africann(a)afrinic.net" <africann(a)afrinic.net> FYI *FOR RELEASE: *Immediate *MEDIA CONTACTS: *Mike Silber ICANN Board Member Bromhof, South Africa* *Ph. +27 82 773 1288 mike.silber(a)icann.org Anne-Rachel Inne ICANN Regional Manager for Africa Niger, Africa Ph. + 1 323 304 3420 anne-rachel.inne(a)icann.org *Internationalization of the Internet Marks Historic Agreement* * * *Washington, D.C… September 30, 2009… *ICANN has signed an historic Affirmation Agreement with the U.S. Department of Commerce that confirms the effectiveness of the ICANN model of international multi-stakeholder and bottom-up governance of the global Internet addressing system. “This means that there can no longer be any doubt that the Internet belongs to the world and is not under the control of any single government or special interest group,” said Mike Silber, a member of ICANN’s Board of Directors. “The very fact that I, as a citizen of South Africa serve on ICANN’s board, along with representatives from around the world speaks to the international diversity of this very unique organization.” “This new Affirmation marks an exciting new stage in ICANN’s development as a truly international entity and it confirms once and for all, that the ICANN model of public participation works, and works effectively” said Rod Beckstrom, ICANN Chief Executive Officer. “One world, one Internet, everyone connected – this is our goal at ICANN. This agreement gives international stakeholders an even more powerful voice in our activities moving forward.” “The Internet is global and it is critical that its governance reflect its international nature,” said Peter Dengate Thrush, a New Zealander who serves as ICANN’s Chairman of the Board. “Now we can clearly say that a new era of the Internationalization of the Internet has begun.” “This historic agreement is only one part of this internationalization process,” said Mike Silber. “Soon because of ICANN’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) program, all portions of an Internet domain name may be made-up of characters from almost any language. This will lead to a huge increase in Internet users from regions in the world, such as the Middle East or Asia, where people may not be using computer keyboards with Latin-based characters.” ### To read the Affirmation Agreement go here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#affirmati… To read the reactions of various business and government leaders go here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#reaction To see a videotaped interview with CEO Rod Beckstrom on the Affirmation Agreement go here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#video To learn more about ICANN’s Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) program go here: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/factsheet-idn-program-05jun09.pdf *About ICANN:* To reach another person on the Internet you have to type a domain name of IP address into your computer. It has to be unique so computers know where to find each other. ICANN coordinates these unique identifiers across the world. Without that coordination we wouldn't have one global Internet. ICANN was formed in 1998. It is a not-for-profit public-benefit corporation with participants from all over the world dedicated to keeping the Internet secure, stable and interoperable. It promotes competition and develops policy on the Internet’s unique identifiers. ICANN doesn’t control content on the Internet. It cannot stop spam and it doesn’t deal with access to the Internet. But through its coordination role of the Internet’s naming system, it does have an important impact on the expansion and evolution of the Internet.* For more information please visit:** **www.icann.org*<http://www.icann.org/> *.* If you would rather not receive future communications from ICANN, let us know by clicking here.<http://ICANN.pr-optout.com/OptOut.aspx?523509x19831x2917x1x3696907x24000x6&…> ICANN, 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 United States _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Re: [kictanet] [AfrICANN-discuss] FW: Internationalization of the Internet Marks Historic Agreement
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Very loud applause..... Eric here > FYI > > [http://www.vocus.com/images/pr/icannheader2_logo.jpg] > FOR RELEASE: Immediate > > MEDIA CONTACTS: Mike Silber > ICANN Board Member > Bromhof, South Africa > Ph. +27 82 773 1288 > mike.silber(a)icann.org<mailto:mike.silber@icann.org> > > Anne-Rachel Inne > ICANN Regional Manager for Africa > Niger, Africa > Ph. + 1 323 304 3420 > anne-rachel.inne(a)icann.org<mailto:anne-rachel.inne@icann.org> > > > Internationalization of the Internet Marks Historic Agreement > > Washington, D.Câ¦ September 30, 2009â¦ ICANN has signed an historic > Affirmation Agreement with the U.S. Department of Commerce that confirms > the effectiveness of the ICANN model of international multi-stakeholder > and bottom-up governance of the global Internet addressing system. > > âThis means that there can no longer be any doubt that the Internet > belongs to the world and is not under the control of any single government > or special interest group,â said Mike Silber, a member of ICANNâs > Board of Directors. âThe very fact that I, as a citizen of South Africa > serve on ICANNâs board, along with representatives from around the world > speaks to the international diversity of this very unique > organization.â > > âThis new Affirmation marks an exciting new stage in ICANNâs > development as a truly international entity and it confirms once and for > all, that the ICANN model of public participation works, and works > effectivelyâ said Rod Beckstrom, ICANN Chief Executive Officer. âOne > world, one Internet, everyone connected â this is our goal at ICANN. > This agreement gives international stakeholders an even more powerful > voice in our activities moving forward.â > > âThe Internet is global and it is critical that its governance reflect > its international nature,â said Peter Dengate Thrush, a New Zealander > who serves as ICANNâs Chairman of the Board. âNow we can clearly say > that a new era of the Internationalization of the Internet has begun.â > > âThis historic agreement is only one part of this internationalization > process,â said Mike Silber. âSoon because of ICANNâs > Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) program, all portions of an Internet > domain name may be made-up of characters from almost any language. This > will lead to a huge increase in Internet users from regions in the world, > such as the Middle East or Asia, where people may not be using computer > keyboards with Latin-based characters.â > > ### > > To read the Affirmation Agreement go here: > http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#affirmati… > > To read the reactions of various business and government leaders go here: > http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#reaction > > To see a videotaped interview with CEO Rod Beckstrom on the Affirmation > Agreement go here: > http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#video > > To learn more about ICANNâs Internationalized Domain Name (IDN) program > go here: > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/factsheet-idn-program-05jun09.pdf > > > About ICANN: > > To reach another person on the Internet you have to type a domain name of > IP address into your computer. It has to be unique so computers know > where to find each other. ICANN coordinates these unique identifiers > across the world. Without that coordination we wouldn't have one global > Internet. ICANN was formed in 1998. It is a not-for-profit public-benefit > corporation with participants from all over the world dedicated to keeping > the Internet secure, stable and interoperable. It promotes competition and > develops policy on the Internetâs unique identifiers. ICANN doesnât > control content on the Internet. It cannot stop spam and it doesnât deal > with access to the Internet. But through its coordination role of the > Internetâs naming system, it does have an important impact on the > expansion and evolution of the Internet. For more information please > visit: www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>. > > > > If you would rather not receive future communications from ICANN, let us > know by clicking > here.<http://ICANN.pr-optout.com/OptOut.aspx?523509x19831x2917x1x3696907x24000x6&…> > ICANN, 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 330, Marina del Rey, CA 90292 United > States > _______________________________________________ > AfrICANN mailing list > AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann >

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ICANN JAA
by alice munyua 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

To read the Joint Affirmation Agreement go here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#affirmati…. To see a videotaped interview with CEO Rod Beckstrom discussing the Affirmation Agreement go here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-30sep09-en.htm#video

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(no subject)
by alice munyua 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

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FW: [Ubuntunet-alliance-community] Vacancies
by Edith Adera 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

It may be of interest.

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US 'to loosen' grip on internet
by alice 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8275679.stm * The US government is expected to relax control over how the internet is run when it signs an accord with net regulator Icann on Wednesday.* The "affirmation of commitments" will reportedly give Icann autonomy to run its own affairs for the first time. Previous agreements gave the US close oversight of Icann - drawing criticism from other countries. Earlier this year, the EU called on the US to relinquish its control and Icann to become "universally accountable". "The US government is the only body to have had formal oversight of Icann's policies and activities since its inception in 1998," it said. "The Commission believes that Icann should become universally accountable, not just to one government but to the global internet community. "This is particularly relevant given that the next billion of internet users will mainly come from the developing world." The current agreement between the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) and the US Commerce Department's National Telecommunications and Information Administration is due to expire on Thursday. *'Formal relationship'* Icann is a not-for-profit private sector corporation - set up by the US government - which oversees critical parts of the internet, such as the top-level domain (TLD) name system. Top level domains include .com and .uk. The body recently voted to relax the strict rules on TLDs, meaning companies could turn brands into web addresses, while individuals could use their names. Icann also agreed to introduce domain names written in Asian, Arabic or other scripts. The regulator has not yet released details of the new agreement with the US. However, a report - described as "accurate" by people familiar with Icann - in the Economist magazine says the new deal does not have a fixed term. It identifies a number of groups, including representatives of foreign governments, which will conduct regular reviews of Icann's work. The panels would specifically focus on competition among generic domain names, how domain-name registrants' data are handled, network security and transparency, and accountability and the public interest - the only panel on which the US will reportedly retain a permanent seat. A formal announcement about the deal is expected on Wednesday. However, it is unlikely that the new agreement will sever the links between the US government and Icann entirely. Rod Beckstrom, president and chief of the organisation, said in a letter to Congress last week that it would seek to maintain a "long term, formal relationship with the United States Government". The body also has a separate agreement with the US - to run the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) - that expires in 2011. The IANA oversees the net's addressing system.

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South Africa's Telkom snaps up Kenyan Internet service provider
by McTim 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

South Africa's Telkom snaps up Kenyan Internet service provider Sep 29, 2009 The local Internet scene could be headed for major realignments as South Africa's largest fixed-line phone operator, Telkom, silently sneaks into a territory it has long been yearning for. A complex web of share-purchase transactions among telecom operators in Africa's richest nation, has ended up with the acquisition of a local satellite data transmission services company, Afsat Communications Limited. After failing to secure a 51 per cent stake in Telkom Kenya late 2007, Telkom SA Ltd opted to court an Internet Service Provider, MWEB Africa, a subsidiary of South African media and communications conglomerate Naspers for a take-over bid. Interestingly, the deal was successfully concluded in April this year, with the firm paying a massive 63m US dollars (4.7bn shillings) for 100 per cent and 75 per cent shareholding in MWEB and MWEB Namibia respectively. The value of the transaction, which ostensibly excluded the South Africa's MWEB unit, has since been kept underwraps. Incidentally, MWEB, the Internet solutions arm of Naspers - the company that also owns Multichoice Africa and popular magazine arm Media 24 - had bought Afsat Communications, including its subsidiaries in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Nigeria and Zambia in October 2007. This implies the local Internet firm, Afsat Communications, is now part and parcel of Telkom South Africa. "AFSAT is now fully part of Telkom South Africa," Mr Job Ndege, General Manager, Afsat Services Ltd told The Financial Journal Last week. "This is an implied acquisition," he said. So far, South African Telkom owns Nigeria's Multi-Links and Kenya's Africa Online, with plans to aggressively fund both units. The latest acquisition is part of the company's strategy aimed at reducing dependence on domestic revenues, while expanding further into Africa to offset dwindling profits at home. It is widely argued that the acquisition, together with the company's investment in Africa Online will increase the value proposition of its product and service offerings to all customer segments in Sub-Saharan Africa. The acquisition gives Telkom South Africa a foothold in 28 African countries, making it the biggest satellite-based ISP on the African continent. "We think our value preposition is so powerful that the current terrestrial services cannot match," says Ndege. He says the value prepositions of the company's products and services include reliability, consistency, speed, availability, cost effectiveness and strong support. Afsat Communications offers direct satellite access services to its clients by utilizing all communications requirements such as backbone access, backhole access and last mile access. In Kenya, Afsat is known for its satellite Internet connectivity solutions to residential and business customers. It also supplies corporate and state owned customers with reliable and secure corporate data network solutions. This service is provided through VSAT connectivity using the popular iWay brand, which has its regional headquarters in Nairobi. "The response in the market for our products has been very good. We have had an unprecedented growth," says Ndege. Amongst the company's main competitors and who are hoping to utilise the fibre optic cables to provide international Internet connectivity include Access Kenya Ltd, Kenya Data Network and UUNET Kenya. "The fibre optic will provide much capacity. The demand for capacity is growing, but there have not been enough satellite capacity to provide international connectivity," says Ndege. Kenya's average Internet usage grew by 230 per cent to 700MB last year from the previous years 304 MB. The fibre optic networks are expected to supplement satellite in boosting the capacity, since satellite bandwidth demand in Africa far outstrips the supply from the highly consolidated satellite fleet operator industry. Indeed, Afsat Communications has announced a five-year (2010-2014) strategic pan aimed at improving and expanding its infrastructure within East Africa, with a view of ensuring steady and reliable supply of its products and services. The next phase of the company's growth will involve setting up additional hub infrastructure to cover the region of the Sub-Saharan Africa between 2011 and 2015. Already, the company has built five satellite hubs in Africa. Afsat serves Kenya through a distributor network of ISP's such as Callkey Networks and Virtualsat, by providing last mile connectivity to remote locations such as Lokichoggio, Mandera, Lamu, Homa Bay, Garissa, Dadaab, Wajir and Namanga. The company also has a large number of VSATs in Nairobi. There are over 485 iWay VSAT terminals in Kenya. iWay services are available in 28 countries in Africa, and its partnership network consists of 32 distributors, with four subsidiaries in East Africa and Nigeria. Afsat Communications was formed in 1992 to offer communication solutions to corporates in East Africa. In 2001, the company changed its focus with the re-launch of iWay Brand targeting the whole Sub-Saharan Africa. Telkom SA Limited aims to become a Pan-African integrated service provider that offers international communications and Internet connectivity, hosting and managed data services, as well as wireless voice and mobile broadband solutions. Over the long term, it plan to provide international data connectivity to major cities in Africa through regional hubs. It also seek to position Telkom as a wholesale facilities and infrastructure enabler for regional incumbents. With regards to existing subsidiaries, Telkom SA is focusing on achieving strong growth through both organic and acquisitive business development strategies, as well as by leveraging synergies across the Group. For Africa Online, this includes leveraging its available international capacity to deploy satellite based Internet access, and using Africa Online as the main vehicle in which Telkom will deliver Internet services outside of South Africa. Source: The Standard website, Nairobi, in English 29 Sep 09 -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Application Round Opens for Nairobi MeetingFellowships
by alice munyua 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

[image: ICANN] <http://www.icann.org/> News Alert http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-29sep09-en.htm ------------------------------ Application Round Opens for Nairobi Meeting Fellowships Program ensures global representation at ICANN=92s International Public Meetings 29 September 2009 *MARINA DEL REY, Calif.*: The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers has launched the ninth round of fellowship program applications for its 37th International Public Meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya from 7-1= 2 March 2009. =93Just like the Internet, ICANN is global in scope in its operations,=94 s= aid Theresa Swinehart , ICANN's Vice President, Global and Strategic Partnerships. =93Our fellowship program, through the contribution of alumni from the previous 7 meetings, continues to experience success in making sur= e global voices are heard in the wide variety of public forums that it holds.= =94 For the upcoming Seoul Meeting, there are 35 fellows selected from 27 countries, chosen from 132 applications received. 10 of the fellows are alumni from at least one of the past seven programmes; 21 fellows are first-time attendees to any ICANN meeting and 4 have attended past meetings= , but are first time fellows. Priority is given to applicants who are current residents of developing and least developed nations and interested in participating in ICANN and its supporting organizations, such as the Governmental Advisory Committee, the Country Code Names Supporting Organization, and the Generic Names Supporting Organization. The fellowship will assist in covering airfare, hotel and a stipend. Recipients will be expected to actively participate in and contribute to ICANN processes. As always, registration for ICANN=92s meetings is free for anyone wanting to attend. Applications for the meeting in Nairobi will be accepted from now until 120= 0 PDT (UTC -7) on 6 November 2009. More information, as well as a link to the application for a fellowship, is available online at: http://www.icann.org/en/fellowships/ ------------------------------ *Sign up for ICANN's Monthly Magazine <http://www.icann.org/magazine/>* -----Original Message----- From: Anne-Rachel Inné <annerachel(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:40:48 To: <africann(a)afrinic.net> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Application Round Opens for Nairobi Meeting Fellowships _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

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JOB VACANCY
by Jotham Kilimo Mwale 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Hi, Please see attached. Regards, Jotham

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Pay for information
by robert yawe 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

Hi, It is shocking how we have been spoilt by VOK by giving us free TV, we are so well schooled in receiving free things that we have a problem paying for anything however beneficial it is to us. University students wanting free transport and going to the extend of wanting to burn down their campus. So the web site live.mystocks.co.ke has indicated that they will be charging for the useful information they have been providing the serious technical trader I believe so as to meet their operational costs. Instead of understanding and support all that has been circulating in certain sites is anger and bitterness. Let us support our young developers without cash they will continue to languish in intellectual poverty. This link will explain my anger with us all, who want cha bure, remember "inchi ya kitu kidogo ni inchi ya watu wadogo" http://stockskenya.com/newsite/stkForumTopic.aspx?stk=0&top=17882

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Technology and Entrepreneurship Forum
by Phares Kariuki 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

>Special thanks to Alex Gakuru and KDN. Might MMU (Multimedia Univ College) attract some thanks as well? ================================================ My profound apologies for the glaring omission. MMU are providing the venue, and have been more than supportive to Skunkworks. >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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Facebook, Youtube maybe free but not really....
by aki 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

- Facebook monthly electricity bill = 1 Million USD , and adds new servers every few days because users appetites for adding photos keeps growing. - Youtube monthly bandwidth consumption= 25PetaBytes ( 1000 Terabytes ) I don't have the excat amounts but the above is a harsh reality of operating such services. Though their financial standings show as mighty, I wonder how long can they sustain just running just on large adverts? Rgds.

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Technology and Entrepreneurship Forum
by Phares Kariuki 29 Sep '09

29 Sep '09

There will be a Tech & Entrepreneurship Forum on the 29th September, 2009, 4th Floor Teleposta Towers, from 5.30 PM. Content will be as follows: - Why go into business? Do you have to? What do you aim to achieve? Is it better to start a Non-profit (Ushahidi)? - What objectives must one set in order to succeed. Stop flying blind - Dealing with government/registration etc - Finance, how to raise funding - Loans, VC, Angel investors? - Patenting ideas - How to make money from ‘soft capital’. - Making money. Chasing the numbers. Speakers will include: 1. Liko Agosta - Founder and CEO of Verviant Limited - www.verviant.com, leading Web Developing firm and BPO Provider 2. Joshua Wanyama - Founder and CEO of Pamoja Media - www.pamojamedia.com, a TED fellow. 3. Caroline Juma of KCR Kenya, leading recruitment firm that specializes in identifying key human resource in the IT industry. 4. Kahenya Kamunyu - CEO, ViRN Instruments. Involved with Zuqka, previously worked for BT, Yahoo, Sanyo Business, and Sony Playstation. Currently developing smart ideas and providing Venture Capital to small enterprises. Special thanks to Alex Gakuru and KDN. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya communication regulations 2009
by muriuki mureithi 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

Hi Am sure the MOIC the convenor has developed a wonderful programme taking advantage of the process of regulations 2001, policy in 2005 and many other stakeholders engagements in the past. Based on this wealth of experience, I suspect the MOIC will have a framework like the following to make best use of the two day engagement i.e. Thurs morning - preliminaries , opening statements , high level presentation positioning the regulations in the policy regulatory terrain , principles undergirding the regulations and of course taking into account a changing market scenario over the life of incoming regulations for the coming decade to 2019 and linkage to vision 2030. A discussion of the structure of the stakeholder workshop - perhaps establish workgroups to review in -depth the various regulations, the capacity of the stakeholder workshop , and finally the tors of the workgroups. High level issues may be addressed in this session Next session could be breakout sessions which will address details at these sessions which may run the rest of the day and perhaps early the following day Friday sessions may be dominated by plenary to receive comments from workout sessions and address cross cutting issues . a final issue may be to establish a small team to help polish the comments into cohesive regulations The structure worked in the past , and most likely will Cheers Muriuki From: Eng. Thomas Senaji [mailto:tasenaji@gmail.com] Sent: 26 September 2009 17:55 To: mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya communication regulations 2009 Bw. Mureithi I am also not aware how it will be structured; the previous practice is where the regulator receives comments, synthesises them and makes a presentation which is followed by discussions and possible agreement. Best regards Senaji On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM, muriuki mureithi <mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke> wrote: Hi all Just wondering how the stakeholder session for the regulations will be structured. I can't see the programme on the CCK website Such a programme is necessary to know what is discussed when and of course the time available for submissions What is the capacity of the stakeholder workshop - is it a comments gathering or a negotiation platform where necessary? Regards Muriuki Mureithi . _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: tasenaji(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tasenaji%40gmail.com

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Two Information Securty Presentations
by Matunda Nyanchama 26 Sep '09

26 Sep '09

Friends, Here are two presentations I made while visiting Nairobi recently. 1. Fraud & IS Audit - to ISACA Chapter in Nairobi 2. Information Security & Risk Management - to UoN Computer Science Click here for Information Security & Risk Management Training information. Let me know if anyone is interested in either follow up or work in the area of IT Security. Enjoy! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.”- George Bernard Shaw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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ICANN assures US lawmakers of its long term commitement to a long term formal relationship
by alice＠apc.org 24 Sep '09

24 Sep '09

http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20090923_5203.php?oref=topnews ICANN seeks to quell concerns on the Hill By Andrew Noyes, CongressDaily 09/23/2009 The California-based entity that administers the world's Internet addresses has assured lawmakers it is committed to a "long-term, formal relationship" with the U.S. government. It made its pledge in a letter Tuesday, a week before the expiration of an agreement between the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers and National Telecommunications and Information Administration. ICANN CEO Rod Beckstrom told House Judiciary ranking member Lamar Smith and House Judiciary Courts and Competition Subcommittee ranking member Howard Coble, R-N.C., in the letter that he is working with NTIA to set guidelines under which ICANN would promise to remain a U.S.-based nonprofit and continue its focus on transparency and accountability. The letter from Beckstrom, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur who had served as director of the Homeland Security Department's National Cybersecurity Center, mirrored written testimony by ICANN Chief Operating Officer Doug Brent, who appeared at a House Judiciary Courts and Competition Subcommittee hearing today to vouch for the organization's planned expansion of top-level domains such as .biz, .info and .us. ICANN has faced scrutiny on Capitol Hill and among industry stakeholders as it seeks more independence from federal oversight, as well as the ability to bring potentially hundreds of new domain names to market. Beckstrom's predecessor, Paul Twomey, weathered a hostile House Energy and Commerce Communications Subcommittee hearing this summer. Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman and Energy and Commerce Communications Subcommittee Chairman Rick Boucher, D-Va., urged Commerce Secretary Locke in August to press for a set of enduring principles to "place beyond doubt the value of the current [relationship]" and prevent any one entity from controlling the underpinnings of the Internet. Meanwhile, NTIA Associate Administrator Fiona Alexander and senior adviser Larry Atlas quietly visited Asia, Europe and South America this month to share details about the path forward for the United States and ICANN with their foreign counterparts. Key Hill aides have also been briefed on the new agreement, sources said.afri

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Fw: story on cyber laws
by michael Ouma 24 Sep '09

24 Sep '09

Hi all: hope you're well. pls follow this link for story on EAC cyber laws: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/-/2558/660788/-/qyeq0nz/-/index.html

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Fwd: [Skunkworks] Do commercial web portals and sites fall into Content Service Provider category?
by Barrack Otieno 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

Interesting discussion that might have some policy implications in light of the shift towards content management ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: aki <aki275(a)googlemail.com> Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM Subject: [Skunkworks] Do commercial web portals and sites fall into Content Service Provider category? To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Does anyone know if the above case is so? And what happens to the informal ICT sector where professional, experienced individuals or small office/home office types, self employed want to develop the above as legit business? Looking into the details of the category license, reveals a concealed fate for small investors, which means a non-starter : -"*Content Services*" means information of any kind normally provided at a fee and is delivered over electronic communications networks and services. They include broadcasting content, financial information services and other information society services. -Within NINE (9) months from the Effective Date, the Licensee shall establish and maintain efficient information services to assist any person to answer questions regarding products, services, and any other reasonable questions relating to the Licensed Services - Within nine (9) months from the Effective Date, the Licensee shall submit to the Commission the accounting principles which relating to the running of the Licensed Systems and which allows the recording of investments, expenses and revenues in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) in Kenya.15.2. Within sixty (60) days of the end of each fiscal year of the Licensee, the Licensee shall deliver to the Commission its balance sheet as at the end of such fiscal year and the related statements of operations, equity and cash flows, in each case accompanied by a report thereon of independent auditors stating that such financial statements fairly present the financial position of the Licensee at the dates indicated and were prepared in accordance with accounting principles submitted to the Commission in accordance with 15.1 above. -In particular, by the 15th July of every year or as agreed by the Commission, the Licensee shall submit a Compliance Report detailing the performance of the previous operational year ended 30th June. - The Licensee shall pay to the Commission:21.1. An initial Licence fee amounting to Kenya Shillings one hundred thousand (KShs.100,000). -On 1st July of each year, an annual operating fee equivalent to zero-point-five percent (0.5%) of the audited annual gross revenues accruing from the Licensed Services during the previous financial year or Kenya shillings one hundred thousand (KShs. 100,000) only whichever is higher. *I highlight these point as at some stage it will affect many. Who knows, you could be selling things from your site portal using mpesa/zap etc and the next thing you know you are operating illegally.* ** *Rgds.* _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar.

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Online Tutor Training for French speakers
by Gakiria 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

Dear All, Below for your information. Please circulate to your contacts. Regards Andrew Gakiria *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** Wanted! French speaking eLearning Tutors to be trained as Facilitators and Tutors to run courses in Francophone Africa. if you have online tutoring experience and fluent in French, please indicate your interest to the undersigned: Jens Schneider: namjens(a)gmail.com , Andrew Gakiria: gakiria(a)kelc.org, or Maggy beukes : sponsita(a)yahoo.com Looking forward to hearing from you Jens Visit Africa eLearning Service Network at: http://africa-elear.ning.com -- To control which emails you receive on Africa eLearning Service Network, go to: http://africa-elear.ning.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings -- Gakiria Andrew Coordinator Kenya eLearning Centre Nairobi, KENYA

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FW: Vacancies in Engineering and IT
by Edith Adera 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

These vacancies may be of interest or if you know of any ideal candidates (tight deadline).

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'Net Neutrality' rules attacked
by Judy Okite 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

interesting read..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8267366.stm Kind Regards, -- "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."

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One Web Day TODAY - Press Release
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Dear All, Hope your day is well. Please find attached. Sorry for crossposting. Eric here

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Internet charges to be regulated
by Walubengo J 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

interesting...i missed the opening ceremony of the Fiber summit this morning but I would have loved to ask the good PS, Dr. Ndemo how the internet (price) regulation could be implemented...If successfully executed, it will definitely be a 1st globally... walu. --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [ke-internetusers] Internet charges to be regulated > To: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 3:59 PM > BY Evelyne Njoroge > Updated 20 minutes ago > > NAIROBI, Kenya, Sept 22- The government has warned that it > would be > forced to step in and regulate internet connectivity > charges if the > prices will not come down significantly in the next one > month. > > Information Permanent Secretary Dr Bitange Ndemo said on > Tuesday that > Internet Service Providers (ISPs) were still making obscene > profits > from the high cost of bandwidth despite the > operationalisation of the > fibre optic cables. > > “They are being mischievous. We have been talking about > $6000 per > Megabyte, telling us that they are lowering to $600 which > from our > calculation their payback would be in less than six months > that is not > what we want,” he stressed. > > It was widely believed that with the coming live of the > SEACOM and The > East African Marine System (TEAMS) cable, the cost of > bandwidth would > come down significantly but this has not happened. > > The cost of one megabyte of bandwidth locally has been > going for > between Sh298, 000 and Sh445, 000 ($4000-$6000) until > recently when > the fibre optic cables landed. > > Many ISPs say they have reduced this to Sh45, 000 ($600) > but the > government wants this lowered to Sh15, 000 ($200). > > “We have many options but it’s always good to leave the > competition to > push the pricing down, but it doesn’t the regulator > (Communication > Commission of Kenya), would step in,” the PS emphasised. > > He said the argument that the providers have increased > capacity for > the same pricing is not valid since majority of Kenyans > cannot access > affordable and after internet connectivity. > > “That is nonsense. If Kenyans are not able to afford, > then I’m not > happy because for me to ensure that the economy grows it is > to make > broadband available to Kenyans. But now it cannot be used, > not many > people have this in their homes,” he complained. > > The providers have been accused of behaving like a cartel > but they > have defended themselves arguing that they need to recoup > their > investments which have been dependent expensive satellite > links. > ... > http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/Kenyabusiness/Internet-charges-to-be-re…> > > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers >

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Re: [kictanet] Brian Omwenga - Thesis and Introduction
by Brian Omwenga 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Hi all, I take it you had a restful weekend. I recently completed my M.Sc. in Technology and Policy and thought to share my thesis with the listers. The thesis is on a "Technology Strategy Analysis for the Deployment of Broadband Connectivity for Economic Development in Emerging Economies: Studying the Case of Kenya Using the CLIOS Process." A good number of discussions as well as people within this list contributed substantially to my thesis and the least I can do is offer a generic thank you to all of them. An ecopy of the thesis is temporarily stored at http://web.mit.edu/bomwenga/Public/ and should soon be available on the MIT library's DSpace. I believe reading the entire 194 pages may be a bit painstaking, so I'm currently working on a 10-15 page paper that should be available soon, I have also attached a copy of the abstract that should be a shorter read. I made use of a policy analysis framework developed by my thesis supervisor (Prof. Sussman) called the Complex Large Interconnected Open Sociotechnical (CLIOS) Process. My belief is that the thesis has contributed a systems understanding and summary to the question of broadband deployment, paying particular emphasis to the open system quality of broadband deployment. It may be taken as a treatise or foundation for further analysis of broadband using engineering analysis tools in the development and evaluation of a strategy. I'm back in the country now working part time at the Nokia Research Center. I will definitely be more active within the list now and I would like to hear your comments on the thesis in addition to those of Dr. Warigia and Mr. Kisia who graciously accepted to be my thesis readers. I also look forward to seeing most if not all of you in the near future. Thanks again, Brian G. Omwenga.

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Secure ICT 2009 Conference Presentations
by Evans Kahuthu 22 Sep '09

22 Sep '09

Dear Listers, On behalf of the Secure ICT 2009 Conference Committee, I would like to thank all who attended and supported our event. For your reference, below please find a link to download the conference presentations. http://secureict.co.ke/2009presentations.aspx If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me (+254-725-996321) Regards, Evans Kahuthu, Chair Secure ICT 2009 Conference

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Fwd: - call - [important] DiploFoundation Begins Research Survey on the Impact of the IGF
by Judy Okite 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

Hi All, Diplo, highly appreciates the time that you will take to fill in the questionnaire as regards the IGF process. Kind Regards, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vladimir Radunovic <vladar(a)diplomacy.edu> Date: Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:11 PM Subject: - call - [important] DiploFoundation Begins Research Survey on the Impact of the IGF To: IGCBP(a)diplomacy.edu Dear friends, Diplo is happy to inform you that we have undertaken a complex initiative to research on the impact of the IGF process! To come up with the most balanced results from all stakeholders worldwide, we need as many inputs and feedbacks as possible. There we need your assistance primarily, to fulfil the short questionnaire, as the fellows involved with local, regional or global IGF processes. *Please take 10 minutes to fill in the survey* available at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=y7VRGPKsJUE2fJie_2bX2eaA_3d_3d As soon as you can, of course – preferably within the next few days, but already today if possible :o) We hope to get many of your responses! Please also circulate the message below to all your colleagues involved in the IGF process in any way (again local, regional or international level). The more responses we get – the better survey will be! Thank you! Vlada P.S. For more information please visit: http://www.diplomacy.edu/display.asp?Topic=IGF-impact or read the info below. DiploFoundation Begins Research Survey on the Impact of the IGF The Internet Governance Forum (IGF) process is a direct result of the UN World Summit on the Information Society. It offers a forum for developing discussions about Internet Governance in a multistakeholder environment which allows for not only cross-border but cross-stakeholder sharing on an equal basis of partners from governments, civil society, business, academia and the technical community. The fourth IGF will take place in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt in November, 2009. As it enters its fourth iteration, the IGF is undergoing a process of review and evaluation, which makes a survey of its impact particularly relevant and important. DiploFoundaton has recently begun a research survey to identify this impact. This information will be valuable for all stakeholders to consider as best practices, examples or what has worked, and where we need to focus our efforts to improve. The process of developing and analyzing the results of this survey will be conducted by DiploFoundation and other partners, supported by a grant from AT&T. The project aims to collect a wide range of responses to questionnaires in two formats: an *online survey<http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=y7VRGPKsJUE2fJie_2bX2eaA_3d_3d> * which will provide input for a statistical analysis of trends in impact (), and an interview survey of stakeholders from government, civil society, business, academia and host countries which will form the basis for a narrative report. The interviews and questionnaire will also collect recommendations for future enhancements of the IGF and related activities. This information will be valuable for all stakeholders to consider as best practices, examples of what has worked, and where we need to focus our efforts to improve. The project will be conducted during September and October, 2009, with the release of a report at the IGF in Sharm El Sheikh, November 15, 2009. Please address any questions to IGF.Impact(a)gmail.com. * Save a tree. Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary. * _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Vladimir Radunovic Coordinator Internet Governance Programmes DiploFoundation email: vladar(a)diplomacy.edu web: www.diplomacy.edu/ig _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ "Kome zakon lezi u topuzu, tragovi mu smrde necovjestvom." "Along his path who make the Might his Right Rise stenches of inhuman cruelty." /by James Wiles/ Petar II Petrovic Njegos (1813-1851) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len>. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 27540 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. -- "When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."

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Release of Interisle and TNO reports on Root Scaling
by alice 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-18sep09-en.htm Release of Interisle and TNO reports on Root Scaling 18 September 2009 In February 2009, with Resolution 2009-02-03-04, the ICANN Board requested the Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC), the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), and the ICANN staff, including the IANA team, to study the potential issues regarding the addition of IDNs, IPv6 addresses, DNSSEC and substantial numbers of new TLDs to the root zone. The Terms of Reference for this study are at http://www.icann.org/en/committees/dns-root/root-scaling-study-tor-05may09-…. Interisle was selected to perform this study. In the course of their study, they recommended that a modeling effort be undertaken with the assistance of TNO. TNO produced a model and a companion report. We are hereby releasing the Interisle report as delivered for public comment and analysis as well as a covering note from the joint RSSAC/SSAC/ICANN staff steering group for this study. The steering group will be evaluating the report against the Terms of Reference and preparing recommendations for the Board and the public. The TNO model and simulation system is undergoing verification and will be released, with the TNO report, soon. Related links: Root Scaling Study http://www.icann.org/en/committees/dns-root/root-scaling-study-report-31aug… [PDF, 1,340K] Steering Group transmittal letter http://www.icann.org/en/committees/dns-root/steering-group-transmittal-lett… [PDF, 41K] The Root Scaling Study Steering Group David Conrad (david.conrad(a)icann.org) - ICANN John L. Crain (john.crain(a)icann.org) - ICANN Steve Crocker (steve(a)shinkuro.com) - SSAC Jeremy Hitchcock (jeremy(a)dyn-inc.com) - SSAC Johan Ihrén (johani(a)autonomica.se) - RSSAC Matt Larson (mlarson(a)verisign.com) - RSSAC Danny McPherson (danny(a)tcb.net) - SSAC Ram Mohan (rmohan(a)afilias.info) - SSAC Greg Rattray (greg.rattray(a)icann.org) - ICANN Barbara Roseman (barbara.roseman(a)icann.org) - ICANN Suzanne Woolf (Suzanne_Woolf(a)isc.org) - RSSAC

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Wainaina Mungai wants to share their location with you on Google Latitude
by Wainaina Mungai 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

Wainaina Mungai (wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com) wants to start sharing their location with you on Google Latitude. You need to sign in to Latitude with a Google Account (eg, @gmail.com) and invite Wainaina Mungai. To get started, or to learn more about Latitude, click the link below. To get Google Latitude on your phone, click or type in the link below from your mobile web browser. http://m.google.com/latitude?dc=lati (c) 2009 Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

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Fw: Information-rich and attention-poor
by Matunda Nyanchama 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

This is an interesting read in this time and age: of data and information glut. Enjoy Information-rich and attention-poor Peter Nicholson From Saturday's Globe and Mail Last updated on Saturday, Sep. 12, 2009 04:09AM EDT Twenty-eight years ago, psychologist and computer scientist Herbert Simon observed that the most fundamental consequence of the superabundance of information created by the digital revolution was a corresponding scarcity of attention. In becoming information-rich, we have become attention-poor. The three technologies that have powered the information revolution – computation, data transmission and data storage – have each increased in capability (and declined in cost per unit of capability) by about 10 million times since the early 1960s. It is as if a house that cost half a million dollars in 1964 could be bought today for a nickel, or if life expectancy had been reduced from 75 years to four minutes. This has unleashed a torrential abundance of data and information. But economics teaches that the counterpart of every new abundance is a new scarcity – in this case, the scarcity of human time and attention. The cost of one's time (approximated, for example, by the average wage) relative to the cost of data manipulation, transmission and storage has increased roughly 10-million-fold in just over two generations – a change in relative “prices” utterly without precedent. This, above all, is what is driving the evolution of online behaviour and culture, with profound implications for the production and consumption of knowledge. The primary consequence is the growing emphasis on speed at the expense of depth. Behaviour inevitably adapts to conserve the scarce resource – in this case, attention and time – and to “waste” the abundant resource. Thus, for example, much of the new technology's capability has been spent on simplifying interfaces and reducing communications latencies essentially to zero; both of these conserve precious time for users. The same motive has also spawned a plethora of indexing and searching schemes, of which Google is the chief example. These are all seeking to be attention-optimizers. Today's information technology is nowhere near its theoretical physical limits, though many engineering and cost hurdles may slow development after 2015. Nanotechnologies and quantum phenomena nevertheless promise to support a new growth path for decades to come. For example, a recently announced storage technology using carbon nanotubes may allow digital information to be held without degradation for a billion years or more – an innovation that would eliminate the major shortcoming of the digital archive. We may think metaphorically of the production of knowledge as a function of “information” and “attention,” with attention understood as the set of activities by which information is ultimately transformed into various forms of knowledge. By virtue of its unprecedented impact on the relative prices of information and human attention, information technology is driving a correspondingly profound transformation of knowledge production, the main feature of which is a shift of emphasis from “depth” to “speed.” This is simply because depth and nuance require time and attention to absorb. So as attention has become the dominant scarcity, depth has become less “affordable.” Moreover, with information so abundant, strategies are needed to process it more quickly, lest something of vital interest or importance is missed. THE 24-HOUR KNOWLEDGE CYCLE Knowledge is evolving from a “stock” to a “flow.” Stock and flow – for example, wealth and income – are concepts familiar to accountants and economists. A stock of knowledge may be thought of as a quasi-permanent repository – such as a book or an entire library – whereas the flow is the process of developing the knowledge. The old Encyclopedia Britannica was quintessentially a stock; Wikipedia is the paradigmatic example of flow. Obviously, a stock of knowledge is rarely permanent; it depreciates like any other form of capital. But electronic information technology is profoundly changing the rate of depreciation. By analogy with the 24-hour news cycle (which was an early consequence of the growing abundance of video bandwidth as cable television replaced scarce over-the-air frequencies), there is now the equivalent of a 24-hour knowledge cycle – “late-breaking knowledge,” as it were. Knowledge is becoming more like a river than a lake, more and more dominated by the flow than by the stock. What is driving this? Most obvious is the fact that the media by which electronic information is presented and manipulated permit it to be changed continuously and almost at no cost. Information products are therefore constantly evolving, for the simple reason that, faced with the option, who would not choose an updated over an outdated version? By the time information products eventually come to rest, they are very likely to be considered obsolete. In the cutthroat competition for attention, they are no longer “news.” Consequently, there is little time to think and reflect as the flow moves on. This has a subtle and pernicious implication for the production of knowledge. When the effective shelf-life of a document (or any information product) shrinks, fewer resources will be invested in its creation. This is because the period during which the product is likely to be read or referred to is too short to repay a large allocation of scarce time and skill in its production. As a result, the “market” for depth is narrowing. There is also under way a shift of intellectual authority from producers of depth – the traditional “expert” – to the broader public. This is nowhere more tellingly illustrated than by Wikipedia, which has roughly 300,000 volunteer contributors every month. The upshot is that thousands of heads working in parallel are, in an environment of information superabundance, presumably better than one, even if that one is an expert. What makes the mobilization of “crowd wisdom” intellectually powerful is that the technology of the Web makes it so easy for even amateurs to access a growing fraction of the corpus of human knowledge. But while hundreds of thousands of Web-empowered volunteers are able to very efficiently dedicate small slices of their discretionary time, the traditional experts – professors, journalists, authors and filmmakers – need to be compensated for their effort, since expertise is what they have to sell. Unfortunately for them, this has become a much harder sell because the ethic of “free” rules the economics of so much Web content. Moreover, the value of traditional expert authority is itself being diluted by the new incentive structure created by information technology that militates against what is deep and nuanced in favour of what is fast and stripped-down. The result is the growing disintermediation of experts and gatekeepers of virtually all kinds. The irony is that experts have been the source of most of the nuggets of knowledge that the crowd now draws upon in rather parasitic fashion – for example, news and political bloggers depend heavily on a relatively small number of sources of professional journalism, just as many Wikipedia articles assimilate prior scholarship. The system works because it is able to mine intellectual capital. This suggests that today's “cult of the amateur” will ultimately be self-limiting and will require continuous fresh infusions of more traditional forms of expert knowledge. With almost all of the world's codified knowledge at your fingertips, why should you spend increasingly scarce attention loading up your own mind just in case you may some day need this particular fact or concept? Far better, one might argue, to access efficiently what you need, when you need it. This depends, of course, on building up a sufficient internalized structure of concepts to be able to link with the online store of knowledge. How to teach this is perhaps the greatest challenge and opportunity facing educators in the 21st century. For now, the just-in-time approach seems to be narrowing peripheral intellectual vision and thus reducing the serendipity that has been the source of most radical innovation. What is apparently being eroded is the deep, integrative mode of knowledge generation that can come only from the “10,000 hours” of individual intellectual focus – a process that mysteriously gives rise to the insights that occur, often quite suddenly, to the well-prepared mind. We appear to be seeing fewer of the great synthetic innovations associated with names like Newton, Einstein or Watson and Crick. THE AGE OF DIGITAL NATIVES So we decry the increasing compartmentalization of knowledge – knowing more and more about less and less – while awaiting the great syntheses that some day may be achieved by millions of linked minds, all with fingertip access to the world's codified knowledge but with a globe-spanning spectrum of different perspectives. The hyperlinked and socially networked structure of the Internet may be making the metaphor of the Web as global “cyber-nervous system” into a reality – still primitive, but with potential for a far more integrated collective intelligence than we can imagine today. Those of us who are still skeptical might recall that Plato, in the Phaedrus, suggested that writing would “create forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it.” This is a striking example of a particular kind of generation gap in which masters of an established paradigm can only see the shortcomings, and not the potential, of the truly novel. Today, the electronic screen, with its lack of linear constraint, its ephemeral scintilla and its hyperlinked multimedia content, portends a very different paradigm. How this may condition the habits of thought of the so-called “digital natives” – who, after all, are about to become both the custodians and creators of human knowledge – is one of the deepest and most significant questions facing our species. The challenge is to adapt, and then to evolve, in a world where there continues to be an exponential increase in the supply of information relative to the supply of human attention. Peter Nicholson is president of the Council of Canadian Academies --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day very difficult.” - E. B. White. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, e-mail: matunda(a)hotmail.com Read my Blog: www.matunda.org Visit: www.aganoconsulting.com - for business information Other: www.nsemia.com ________________________________ Click less, mail more: Hotmail on the new MSN homepage!

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Global 'missed call' scam
by Wainaina Mungai 17 Sep '09

17 Sep '09

Hi I got a missed call from +423662691883 at 7:04am this morning. Being the paranoid Kenyan ;-) that I am, I first Googled for the country code and the result was "Liechtenstein". One of those coutries the skip on the map. I also learnt that the number has been used for a 'missed call' scam where you'd lose airtime and more. 1. Are our networks protecting consumers from such 'known threats'? 2. How does the scam work? Have a careful day, Wainaina -- Sent from my mobile device --- http://www.bungesms.com http://www.madeinkenya.org http://www.wainainamungai.com

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Let's build an Electronic Payment Solution!
by wesley kirinya 16 Sep '09

16 Sep '09

A couple of weeks ago, and a few months before that I talked about a payment solution for developers, basically a system where developers can receive payments from clients. Rad! had started the topic I commented on a few weeks ago. I believe that it's a great time now for us developers to do something about it. There are lots of great guys making great apps, especially mobile apps, but the methods that exist for them to receive payments are cumbersome for the client or the revenue share would not make business sense for the developer unless they are selling in the 10s or 100s of thousands. As I commented on Rad!'s thread, the payment solution is in-deed the last mile for us developers. With such a solution one can confidently build an app and plan for it's sale. I'm therefore putting the request out to all parties/developers interested. Is anyone willing to contribute to develop such a system. I belive we have some of the best developers spread out in our lists. We have the Security Guru's, the UI Gurus, Database Gurus, Software Architects, Designers and Programmers among others. And I'm sure those people know other people internationaly who can provide expert help. If we archieve this we could have a great open platform for payments. I had in mind a simple platform. It works the same way one would buy Mobile credit from the retail chains. It will be electronic. One purchases the amount they need, they send a request to the servers, through the Application (website, PC or mobile App). The application on the server deducts the amounts as they are used by the subscriber. I believe this system can generate enough revenue to sustain itself. The retail chain can pocket their 10 %, the system (and whoever is maintaining it) pocket another 10% and 70%-80% goes to the developer. Apple's Appstore pockets 30% while developer pockets 70%, that is great. One developer might have a client base of 5,000 for their app, but with 20 developers that goes up to 100,000. A developer would have access to the API to embed the payment solution in a website, mobile app, or PC app. I'm starting this thread for discussion into this venture. If the discussions are successful, let's make this a reality! If not, then I'll repost and repost until this idea makes sense, coz I'm yet to see how it doesn't. O_O

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WITSA Global ICT Public Policy Summit
by waudo siganga 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Dear Colleagues, WITSA ([1]www.witsa.org) will be hosting the 2009 Global ICT Public Policy Summit ([2]www.gpps.bm) in Bermuda in early Novemebr. This international summit focuses on global policies affecting the ICT industry and is attended by over 500 senior executives, government officials and policy makers. Taking place once every two years and commencing in 1999, the summit is hosted in a different country each time, with the leading ICT association of that country organizing the event. In November 2009, GPPS will be coming to Bermuda with the Bermuda Chamber of Commerce’s Business Technology Division as the organizer in partnership with the Ministry of Energy, Telecommunications and E-Commerce. The theme of the meting is "Business Technology: An Enabler in Your Economy" The 2009 Global Public Policy Summit focuses on global policies affecting the ICT industry and will be attended by over 500 senior executives, government officials and policy makers. The event will take place at the Fairmont Southampton in Bermuda on November 1-3, 2009. The event program will feature several thought provoking sessions, including: - Can Enlightened ICT Policy Enable Your Economy and an Economic Recovery? - Do Policies that Promote Technology Infrastructures that Are Resilient and Secure, and that Protect the Privacy of Personal Data Conflict with Policies that Encourage Economic Expansion? - Will Proposed Internet Governance Policies on the Stability, Security and Private Sector Leadership of the Internet Dampen Economic Recovery and Expansion? - Do Environmental Policies Hamper Growth and Can Enlightened ICT Policies and Involvement Bridge the Gap? - Is There Evidence that Institutions Can Play a Positive Role In Promoting ICT and Expanding Economies or Are They Simply Relics of the Past? - Are There Potential Business Technology Developments on the Horizon That Will Enhance Business Growth? In addition, there will be a [3]Pre-Summit Workshop entitled “Incubators as a Catalyst to Developing a Strong ICT Sector “ on October 30 and 31. Visit [4]www.gpps2009.bm for more information and Registration – Now! If you are in Kenya and you would like the CSK, which is a member of WITSA, to send an official invitation letter to your organization please do not hesitate to contact me. The total investment to atten dthhis meeting including return airfare, accomodation in the 5-star hotel and conference registration is about US$3000. Kind Regards, Waudo References 1. http://www.witsa.org/ 2. http://www.gpps.bm/ 3. http://www.gpps2009.bm/Schedule.aspx 4. http://www.gpps2009.bm/

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Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum Travel bursaries for the 4th IGF
by alice 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Dear all, Find attached information about the Commonwealth travel bursaries for the 4th IGF. best Alice -------- Original Message -------- Details of the Commonwealth IGF and travel bursaries are attached for your information and can be found online on: www.commonwealthigf.org <http://www.commonwealthigf.org/> We would be grateful if you could disseminate the information through your networks.

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by Bill Kagai 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Alex, Robert is apparently well known following emails I received from highly reputable people in the Human Rights sector where he last attacked. Through a bdix.net mailing list. You have opted to keep quiet about this. If you continue protecting his identity and he remains a member of your organisation, you ought to be ACCOUNTABLE as the chairman and let him face the full wrath of his RESPONSIBILITY. Otherwise, you are an accomplice. Don't mix the sad issue of Defamation today with Consumer Rights. I also want cheap internet. Also take heed, I do not represent Michael Joseph or any other person who faced attacks from Robert but I took responsibility to unearth the culprit as a proud Kenyan who is not ready to see one soul drive us into a destructive path. Unless you become bold and expose him, I am sorry I do not have anything good to say about you too and your organisation. Actually, I do not know what am doing in this list any more. Good bye....ALL. I can certainly get better things to do..... Bill On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Bill, > > "The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win, > you're still a rat."- Lily Tomlin. > I shall steer clear of the lowly races. > > inline responses, > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Alex, >> Don't beat around the bush. > > Bill = Impunity? Let's see.... > > But if you wish; > > 1) find out from your Safaricom friend where I was all day today. Ask > them for my mobile phone user location tracking and the days calls and > messages log to verify that indeed I had my handset on me all day. You > are aware that they all have all this huge amount of data(SMS, calls, > location, transaction, whom we call, when, conversation details etc ) > on all of our communications on their servers, right? We do not ask > for Data Protection bill aimlessly. > > 2) Indulge your investigations skills more- e.g. ask my neighbours if > I was at the location given unto you. > > 3) Go to Kenya Power and Lighting Company and ask them for their power > rationing program for today. And confirm whether indeed my location > had an outage. > > 4) I spoke with several respected senior personalities today who > needed data and information. Without power, I regretted, I could not > send them via emails. I am ready to give you their numbers for you to > confirm if indeed I told them so. > >> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person?? >> 2. Do you have his contacts?? >> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari?? >> >> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten >> this matter!!!! > > I shall not qualify or dignify your allegations with an honourable response. > > @Journalist: Anne-Marie Kinyanjui (and despite your disclaimer): > > Are you are qualified to advice us on consumer advocacy and > telecommunications investments? You wrote me an email asking for me > for data. What did you really want it for? > Whom does a journalist write for? See for "professional journalist" > here <http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video> > > I can send to kictanet the KBC and NTV News clips of the same Michael > Joseph interview, then all you can understand what I mean. Moderator > let me know I can do that? (~10MB). > > ---------- > Finally, > > My data-based analysis remains valid, until and unless Safaricom's > Michael Joseph offers verifiable proof on the contrary. Internet > prices have to come down, immediately! > > regards, > > Alex > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex >> <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something already >>> illegal.... Please take note. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Ladies and Gentlemen, >>>> >>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not >>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this >>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. This >>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'. >>>> >>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police >>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for libel >>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers >>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with >>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true >>>> identity of one Onyango Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who >>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari??? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bildad Kagai >>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited >>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor >>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue >>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200 >>>> Nairobi, Kenya >>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332 >>>> Fax. Rendered Obsolete >>>> S - 1°17'13.8" >>>> E - 36°48'22.7" >>>> www.mediacorp.co.ke >>>> --

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Kenya's ICT Policy development process
by Vanessa Malila 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Was hoping someone might be able to help. I am a PhD student at the University of Leeds doing my research on the ICT policy development process in Kenya - looking specifically at the role of the media and multi-stakeholder processes in the development of the 2006 National ICT Policy. I have been looking online for a copy of the draft ICT policy which was released in October 2004, but have not been able to find anything. Can anyone send me a copy or point me in the direction of where I could find one - if it is available electronically? I would really appreciate your feedback or help in this regard. Cheers, Vanessa Malila --------------------------------------------- Vanessa Malila PhD Student Institute of Communication Studies University of Leeds

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East African Fiber Summit
by aki 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Good morning, I'm a techie and a regular contributor on skunkslist. I'd like to add some contributions. Any views below are personal and not meant to cause any negative actions etc.. :-) I received an email attachment on the above subject detailing the program of the event. Though I'm not in a position to attend, I wanted to share my thoughts. After reviewing it, the program does not seem to hold much on what and where fiber should be heading in kenya. The program seems to revolve around a concept " when fiber arrives ". There are many excellent contributors on the program list and I hope that the summit will take things to much higher levels of discussion and focus on progress development through commitments. As I mentioned in my earlier contributions on other lists, Kdn and Safaricom ( including Onecom ) made history on July 27th. Safaricom took it further by holding event meetings for cyber owners outside Nairobi while Kdn was also able to push seacom packets all the way to the ugandan border. The summit should, in my view, present the strategies and solutions on offer based on techology, expansion and deployment of the fiber Nationally and across the border. This also brings me to my second point of contribution : TATA and Point of Presence in kenya : I was quite glad when recently TATA announced that they would be putting up a POP in kenya for tiered services. To have this pop in kenya was quite an important achievement and goes to show that Fiber will make Kenya a communications regional hub for the region. However, it has recently announced that TATA have gone with Access Kenya on this development. While I have nothing against any service provider or in this case Access Kenya, I believe that TATA have have made a disappointing start on the POP. As far as I know, Access Kenya does not at the moment represent itself as a National Operator nor does its services spread nationally nor across the border into Uganda or Rwanda. I'd have thought that TATA would be considering KDN, TKL or even Safaricom ( Onecom ) for its POP. I hope in future POP operators do realise the impact of their decisions. Corrections are welcome. Rgds.

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by Solomon Mburu 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Alex, Mistakes are made in ideas, but that does not mean I have not dome my research well. I think I should have said, Bill, stay on in fighting for the battle of empowering the internet users of their rights. By this, I do not mean he (Bill) is the only person who does that. We are all doing it in our own capacities! Thanks 2009/9/10 Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> > Solomon, > > It would really help everyone if you did your background research a > little more before commenting on some issues. > > Thanks, > > Alex > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Bill, > > > > Stay on and fight for what you want while in the 'system.' If you pull > > out, you;ll have lost the battle of internet rights and users! > > > > > > > > On 10/09/2009, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Bill, > >> > >> Leaving the list is not the solution....in my view there is more good > than > >> bad. > >> > >> N > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> > >> To: elizaslider(a)yahoo.com > >> Cc: ke-users <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions > >> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:57:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > >> > >> Alex, > >> Robert is apparently well known following emails I received from > >> highly reputable people in the Human Rights sector where he last > >> attacked. Through a bdix.net mailing list. You have opted to keep > >> quiet about this. > >> > >> If you continue protecting his identity and he remains a member of > >> your organisation, you ought to be ACCOUNTABLE as the chairman and let > >> him face the full wrath of his RESPONSIBILITY. Otherwise, you are an > >> accomplice. > >> > >> Don't mix the sad issue of Defamation today with Consumer Rights. I > >> also want cheap internet. > >> > >> Also take heed, I do not represent Michael Joseph or any other person > >> who faced attacks from Robert but I took responsibility to unearth the > >> culprit as a proud Kenyan who is not ready to see one soul drive us > >> into a destructive path. > >> > >> Unless you become bold and expose him, I am sorry I do not have > >> anything good to say about you too and your organisation. Actually, I > >> do not know what am doing in this list any more. > >> > >> Good bye....ALL. I can certainly get better things to do..... > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gakuru Alex < > alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Bill, > >>> > >>> "The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win, > >>> you're still a rat."- Lily Tomlin. > >>> I shall steer clear of the lowly races. > >>> > >>> inline responses, > >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> Alex, > >>>> Don't beat around the bush. > >>> > >>> Bill = Impunity? Let's see.... > >>> > >>> But if you wish; > >>> > >>> 1) find out from your Safaricom friend where I was all day today. Ask > >>> them for my mobile phone user location tracking and the days calls and > >>> messages log to verify that indeed I had my handset on me all day. You > >>> are aware that they all have all this huge amount of data(SMS, calls, > >>> location, transaction, whom we call, when, conversation details etc ) > >>> on all of our communications on their servers, right? We do not ask > >>> for Data Protection bill aimlessly. > >>> > >>> 2) Indulge your investigations skills more- e.g. ask my neighbours if > >>> I was at the location given unto you. > >>> > >>> 3) Go to Kenya Power and Lighting Company and ask them for their power > >>> rationing program for today. And confirm whether indeed my location > >>> had an outage. > >>> > >>> 4) I spoke with several respected senior personalities today who > >>> needed data and information. Without power, I regretted, I could not > >>> send them via emails. I am ready to give you their numbers for you to > >>> confirm if indeed I told them so. > >>> > >>>> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person?? > >>>> 2. Do you have his contacts?? > >>>> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari?? > >>>> > >>>> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten > >>>> this matter!!!! > >>> > >>> I shall not qualify or dignify your allegations with an honourable > >>> response. > >>> > >>> @Journalist: Anne-Marie Kinyanjui (and despite your disclaimer): > >>> > >>> Are you are qualified to advice us on consumer advocacy and > >>> telecommunications investments? You wrote me an email asking for me > >>> for data. What did you really want it for? > >>> Whom does a journalist write for? See for "professional journalist" > >>> here <http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video> > >>> > >>> I can send to kictanet the KBC and NTV News clips of the same Michael > >>> Joseph interview, then all you can understand what I mean. Moderator > >>> let me know I can do that? (~10MB). > >>> > >>> ---------- > >>> Finally, > >>> > >>> My data-based analysis remains valid, until and unless Safaricom's > >>> Michael Joseph offers verifiable proof on the contrary. Internet > >>> prices have to come down, immediately! > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> > >>> Alex > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex > >>>> <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something > already > >>>>> illegal.... Please take note. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Ladies and Gentlemen, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not > >>>>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this > >>>>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. > This > >>>>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police > >>>>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for > libel > >>>>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers > >>>>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with > >>>>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true > >>>>>> identity of one Onyango Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who > >>>>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari??? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Bildad Kagai > >>>>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited > >>>>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor > >>>>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue > >>>>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200 > >>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya > >>>>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332 > >>>>>> Fax. Rendered Obsolete > >>>>>> S - 1°17'13.8" > >>>>>> E - 36°48'22.7" > >>>>>> www.mediacorp.co.ke > >>>>>> -- > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: elizaslider(a)yahoo.com > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/elizaslider%40yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Solomon Mburu > > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > > the same way to the side of a hill! > > > > AND > > > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous > generosity! > > > > > > blog: http://desires-and-dreams.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ke-internetusers mailing list > > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > > -- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! blog: http://desires-and-dreams.blogspot.com Sent from Nairobi, Kenya

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Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by Gakuru Alex 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

<http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/410/16/39787.html>

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Re: [kictanet] The Way Forward...my 2 bob... WAS: Re: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Douglas Onyango 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

> well, if the goal is to harmonise, why not have a regional > one from > the beginning, developed in a MSH fashion. Countries > can accept or > reject and negotiate according to their own agendas. We want to follow the bottom up approach, so it is imperative that countries come with their views to the table. > ?? I don't WANT to leave it to politicians alone ;-) No McTim, i don't - i am just reiterating that untill we have proper ground to form a working group/mailing list etc we can hang in there; I used the Politicians to present a group that is good-to-go Regards, Douglas Onyango +256(0712)981329 If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the Problem. --- On Wed, 9/9/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Way Forward...my 2 bob... WAS: Re: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya > To: "Douglas Onyango" <ondouglas(a)yahoo.com> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 11:44 AM > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, > Douglas Onyango<ondouglas(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > McTim, > > I am with you on this. > > > > But i wish to point out that the issue of interest > groups is rather tricky > > to implement at an EA level at the moment. > > Rationale: Countries are still developing their > national positions on > > various issues and asking them to debate this at a > regional level would be > > rather premature. > > well, if the goal is to harmonise, why not have a regional > one from > the beginning, developed in a MSH fashion. Countries > can accept or > reject and negotiate according to their own agendas. > > > > > On the flip side of the coin, i think the parts of > EA that has issues they > > can deliberate on like the Parilamentarians are > already convenig this > > afternoon - so on this front your concern is being > addressed. > > ?? I don't WANT to leave it to politicians alone ;-) > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where > it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >

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Alex - Expose Robert
by Bill Kagai 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

Alex, To protect the reputation of Kenya Internet Consumers Association, don't let Robert hide under your organisation. I do not think you are in cahoots. Expose him, we sink him. --- Bill

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

You don't fool me one bit! Sorry Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Theus Owicho <owichot(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:12:54 To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices Eunice I always dont involve myself in fights over the internet so if you really want to engage me call me for coffee and lets sort it out. I have much to live for and many to give and internet aquintances and fights are just not for me. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM, <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> wrote: > Sorry Owicho or whoever you are but the language and tone of this email > suggests that you are 'Onyango'. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > ------------------------------ > *From*: Theus Owicho > *Date*: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:44:30 +0300 > *To*: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > *Subject*: Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high > internet prices > Guys > > there are things which doesn't warrant any comment because you might think > that you are containing the "Onyango" kumbe you are making him famous. This > guy is now a silent martyr to many here. If you don't like it, just don't > respond > > Response and counter attacks on mailings lists will never contain the > aggressors. They become bolder because people are listening and we have seen > them attack on regard to expiry of Bundles in Safcom and the expiry was > extended. > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> On 10/09/2009, eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> wrote: >> > Hahaaaa! How funny. >> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> >> > >> > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:49:33 >> > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> >> > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >> > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> prices >> > >> > >> > We dont need KICTANET to tell Kenyans that Eunice is using bellow the >> belt >> > to award favours. What is the number os users in KICTANET? Be serious. >> We >> > dont need KICTANET for this to be known >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> >> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:44:02 +0000 >> >> To: onyango(a)inbox.com >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> >> prices >> >> >> >> You have missed the whole point as expected!! >> >> >> >> And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the >> level >> >> of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be >> >> gained. >> >> >> >> I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you >> >> soon. >> >> Pole sana. >> >> >> >> As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level >> of >> >> thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an >> >> embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. >> >> The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of >> >> high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. >> >> >> >> Ek >> >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> >> >> >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 >> >> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> >> >> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >> >> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> >> prices >> >> >> >> >> >> Eunice >> >> >> >> The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising >> >> everything >> >> >> >> Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh >> shareholder >> >> while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the >> >> majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. >> >> >> >> And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong >> >> like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan >> >> parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be >> >> excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute >> >> knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect >> >> because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from >> >> accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to >> >> force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT >> >> Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. >> >> >> >> How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have >> not >> >> been objective nor fair to anyone. >> >> >> >> Be serious. Stop kidding us. >> >> >> >> OH >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> >>> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 >> >>> To: onyango(a)inbox.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> >>> prices >> >>> >> >>> This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the >> >>> 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and >> not >> >>> Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for >> now >> >>> its spokesperson. >> >>> >> >>> We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and >> >>> personal >> >>> on matters of ICT at whatever level. >> >>> >> >>> Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the >> mouths >> >>> of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. >> >>> >> >>> Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) >> >>> first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako >> arrogantly >> >>> but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can >> >>> only >> >>> request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law >> >>> interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the >> Ringera >> >>> one but wako says only the court can interpret law. >> >>> >> >>> In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our >> policy >> >>> requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above >> >>> board manner! >> >>> Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to >> >>> the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make >> >>> recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any >> >>> way. >> >>> >> >>> Ek >> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> >> >>> >> >>> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 >> >>> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> >> >>> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >> >>> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> >>> prices >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >>> kictanet mailing list >> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>> >> >>> This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… >> >>> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >>> kictanet mailing list >> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>> >> >>> This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >>> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com >> > >> >____________________________________________________________ >> > GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! >> > Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! >> >_______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com >> > >> >> >> -- >> Solomon Mburu >> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi >> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 >> >> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all >> the same way to the side of a hill! >> >> AND >> >> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >> generosity! >>_______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > >

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

Sorry Owicho or whoever you are but the language and tone of this email suggests that you are 'Onyango'. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Theus Owicho <owichot(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:44:30 To: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Cc: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices Guys there are things which doesn't warrant any comment because you might think that you are containing the "Onyango" kumbe you are making him famous. This guy is now a silent martyr to many here. If you don't like it, just don't respond Response and counter attacks on mailings lists will never contain the aggressors. They become bolder because people are listening and we have seen them attack on regard to expiry of Bundles in Safcom and the expiry was extended. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/09/2009, eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> wrote: > > Hahaaaa! How funny. > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > > > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:49:33 > > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > > > > > We dont need KICTANET to tell Kenyans that Eunice is using bellow the > belt > > to award favours. What is the number os users in KICTANET? Be serious. We > > dont need KICTANET for this to be known > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > >> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:44:02 +0000 > >> To: onyango(a)inbox.com > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > >> prices > >> > >> You have missed the whole point as expected!! > >> > >> And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the level > >> of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be > >> gained. > >> > >> I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you > >> soon. > >> Pole sana. > >> > >> As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level of > >> thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an > >> embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. > >> The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of > >> high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. > >> > >> Ek > >> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > >> > >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 > >> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > >> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > >> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > >> prices > >> > >> > >> Eunice > >> > >> The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising > >> everything > >> > >> Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh shareholder > >> while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the > >> majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. > >> > >> And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong > >> like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan > >> parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be > >> excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute > >> knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect > >> because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from > >> accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to > >> force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT > >> Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. > >> > >> How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have not > >> been objective nor fair to anyone. > >> > >> Be serious. Stop kidding us. > >> > >> OH > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > >>> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 > >>> To: onyango(a)inbox.com > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > >>> prices > >>> > >>> This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the > >>> 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and > not > >>> Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for > now > >>> its spokesperson. > >>> > >>> We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and > >>> personal > >>> on matters of ICT at whatever level. > >>> > >>> Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the > mouths > >>> of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. > >>> > >>> Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) > >>> first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako > arrogantly > >>> but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can > >>> only > >>> request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law > >>> interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the > Ringera > >>> one but wako says only the court can interpret law. > >>> > >>> In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our policy > >>> requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above > >>> board manner! > >>> Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to > >>> the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make > >>> recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any > >>> way. > >>> > >>> Ek > >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 > >>> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > >>> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > >>> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > >>> prices > >>> > >>> > >> >_______________________________________________ > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… > >>> > >> >_______________________________________________ > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com > > > >____________________________________________________________ > > GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! > > Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > >_______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > Solomon Mburu > P.O. 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Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

Hahaaaa! How funny. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:49:33 To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices We dont need KICTANET to tell Kenyans that Eunice is using bellow the belt to award favours. What is the number os users in KICTANET? Be serious. We dont need KICTANET for this to be known > -----Original Message----- > From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:44:02 +0000 > To: onyango(a)inbox.com > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > You have missed the whole point as expected!! > > And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the level > of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be > gained. > > I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you > soon. > Pole sana. > > As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level of > thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an > embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. > The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of > high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. > > Ek > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > > Eunice > > The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising > everything > > Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh shareholder > while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the > majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. > > And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong > like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan > parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be > excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute > knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect > because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from > accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to > force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT > Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. > > How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have not > been objective nor fair to anyone. > > Be serious. Stop kidding us. > > OH > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 >> To: onyango(a)inbox.com >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> prices >> >> This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the >> 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and not >> Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for now >> its spokesperson. >> >> We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and >> personal >> on matters of ICT at whatever level. >> >> Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the mouths >> of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. >> >> Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) >> first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako arrogantly >> but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can >> only >> request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law >> interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the Ringera >> one but wako says only the court can interpret law. >> >> In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our policy >> requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above >> board manner! >> Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to >> the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make >> recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any >> way. >> >> Ek >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 >> To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> >> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >> ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet >> prices >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… >> > >_______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com ____________________________________________________________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! 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Fwd: Re: Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by Bildad Kagai 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

> From: Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> > I do not have power today and my laptop battery is low. You will all > have to excuse my absence until later when power is back. I shall > respond to every question directed at me. > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > Thanks Bill. I will call you and even invite you for Coffee in Java. > And tell them to bring the police then to serve me with the suit. I > will call you ndugu Alex/Hatari, You should expect natural consequences of what you do. Your excuse is LAME to say the least. Whether you are changing your tactical gambit or creating a new email address to light another tinderbox, you should be courageous enough not to hide your identity at cybercafes to push your agenda. What happened here today was 'out of order' and I hope the concerned aggrieved parties do take this matter to the relevant authorities at least as a deterrent measure for future escapades. I hope that very soon, we shall see the real face of Onyango Hatari who attempted to under-estimate the intelligence of this community by planting seeds of discord as soon as the long arm of the law catches up with him. I for one, will bear witness to the sad events that transpired today. I am confident we shall see an 'arrest' soon.

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
by eunicekariuki＠ict.go.ke 10 Sep '09

10 Sep '09

You have missed the whole point as expected!! And sorry I will not give you the pleasure of being drawn into the level of arguing nor engage you as I know there will only be disgrace to be gained. I certainly feel sorry for you and hope you hope someone can help you soon. Pole sana. As for kictanet, this very juvenile language/ communication and level of thinking or interpreting matters of national importance is an embarrassment to the country, given the subscription nos. The real debate should be how to streamline debates so that they are of high quality! Alice, Walu over to you. Ek Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya -----Original Message----- From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:01 To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices Eunice The debate is personalised because the stakeholders are personalising everything Dont say that the first priority of Michael JOseph is to teh shareholder while am a shareholder and priority is definitely not on me nor the majority who boycotted the AGM because of Michael Josephs arrogance. And now you bring Ringera issue into ICT matters. Wako was very wrong like he has been. There is no way a court ruling can bind the Kenyan parliament. There is separation of powers and thank God you will be excused because you are a marketer and seems to have very minute knowledge on law. The fact that you bring Ringera issues is suspect because first you have used the same bad laws to hinder people from accessing ICT Board and when access has been imminent you have tried to force peopel to have sex with you so that they get favours from ICT Board. Dont try to act like an angel. We know what you are doing. How do you expect people to be objective while you at ICT Board have not been objective nor fair to anyone. Be serious. Stop kidding us. OH > -----Original Message----- > From: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:11:06 +0000 > To: onyango(a)inbox.com > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > This debate is so personalised that I can't help to wonder where the > 'policy advocacy' aspect of kictanet forum is! By focusing on MJ and not > Safaricom you make him more powerful! Yet he is just the CEO and for now > its spokesperson. > > We shall do well , very well when we stop being so emotional and personal > on matters of ICT at whatever level. > > Any other way leaves Desai and sour, may be even bad taste in the mouths > of those we appeal to do xyz for the industry. > > Their(michael and others in similar positions of economic influence) > first priority is to their shareholders; Recall the way Wako arrogantly > but correctly advised parliament on the Ringera issue? That they can only > request or express opinions and hope they will be considered by law > interpreters(courts). Tough pill to swallow on an issue such the Ringera > one but wako says only the court can interpret law. > > In the case of this forum, we should consider putting across our policy > requests, opinions, views, suggestions in sober, objective and above > board manner! > Any other way will yield nothing, unless you take off from internet to > the streets to protest or get commissions to be appointed to make > recommendations (at your tax cost) which may never be implemented any > way. > > Ek > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Onyango Hatari <onyango(a)inbox.com> > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:44:03 > To: <eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke> > Cc: Skunkworks forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net>; <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet > prices > > >_______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: eunicekariuki(a)ict.go.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eunicekariuki%40ict.go… > >_______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: onyango(a)inbox.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/onyango%40inbox.com

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The Way Forward...my 2 bob... WAS: Re: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by McTim 09 Sep '09

09 Sep '09

Ladies and Gents, I have been thinking about this a great deal over the last few days. My position remains the same, the IGF (global one) is not a negotiating, output focused body. HOWEVER, there is no reason the National or Regional IGFs cannot produce outputs to help local and regional policy makers. As much as I applaud the fantastic organisational job done to bring this EAIGF about, I think that IF this body wants to actually produce a useful output for policy makers, it needs to shift format a bit. Instead of being a "presentations with a few questions at the end" kind of thing, I think that breaking up into subject matter working groups (with associated mailing lists per subject) over the course of the year will be more likely to produce useful frameworks for policy makers. Hope to see you later this morning, McTim On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Walubengo J<jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > McTim, > > thanx for your observations. i think what Vincent meant was the bigger picture which is that for our issues to be 'felt' or 'heard' at a global level, it counts to speak as a Region. > > And so according to me one major outcome from the ongoing meeting is to learn from each other and arrive at what you might call an E.African view/position on the various burning issues under CyberSecurity, Domain mngt, Infrastrucutre (e.g. undersea cable), Local Content, etc. > > walu. > > > --- On Sun, 9/6/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:00 PM >> Hi Vincent, >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Vincent Ngundi<vincent(a)kenic.or.ke> >> wrote: >> <snip> >> > The expected outcome of this will be a framework that >> ushers the region into >> > the digital economy. The outcome will also be a >> negotiating platform during >> > the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum >> (UN IGF) taking place in >> > Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, >> >> Can you clarify this please? AFAIK, the IGF is NOT a >> negotiating body. >> >> Our output could be an "input" for discussion, but there is >> no process >> or way to negotiate anything at the IGF (which has, after >> all, no >> "authority" to compel anyone to behave in a certain way). >> >> See you at the jacaranda tomorrow! >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where >> it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> > > > >

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Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Vincent Ngundi 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

[reminder]: 2009 EA-IGF - http://www.eaigf.or.ke Dear Colleagues, The competitiveness of our economies is increasingly dependent on the Internet and therefore mainstreaming our region in the cyberspace is of paramount importance. The challenges to achieve the knowledge economy in our region have been identified as: * Access to Broadband (at the village, in schools, in banks, in manufacturing); * Cyber Security, Trust and Privacy (for banks, for the government, for he individual user); * Policy, Legal and Regulatory Issues (to make access to Internet available and affordable, to protect consumers); * Critical Internet Resources (to ensure the stability, growth and security of the Internet); * Internet User and Consumer Protection (to protect your online identity, to protect your personal data, to guarantee your right to communicate and to information and knowledge). To address these issues at the regional level KICTANet, KENIC and other participating organizations have brought together participants from the East Africa countries of Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda and Kenya. They will be joined by delegates from the international community including the United Kingdom (UK), Japan, the United States of America (USA) and Canada among others. The expected outcome of this will be a framework that ushers the region into the digital economy. The outcome will also be a negotiating platform during the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UN IGF) taking place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, the African Information Society conference in Addis Ababa in January 2010 as well as set the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010. This is to therefore invite you as key Internet stakeholder in the region to join the leaders to help formulate the strategy for the future of the Internet. Kindly visit the website www.eaigf.or.ke <http://www.eaigf.or.ke> to register for next week¹s internet governance meeting: 7th - 9th September at the Jacaranda Hotel. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 ³dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!²

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Commonwealth travel support for IGF Sharm el Sheikh
by Adam Peake 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

The <http://www.commonwealthconnects.net/>Commonwealth Connects Programme has set up a travel fund to help people from Commonwealth countries to attend the IGF meeting in Sharm el Sheikh. Information below, and in more detail on the Commonwealth website <http://commonwealthigf.org/cms/index.php/home.html>. Note, deadline for applications is September 14. Please hurry :-) Info copied from the Commonwealth site below. Adam Aim of the Bursary As part of this strategy for more engagement, the Commonwealth Internet Governance Forum have set up a modest travel fund to offer young professionals who are active in Internet Governance in their countries or field, the opportunity to participate at the IGF meeting in Sharm el Sheikh. Criteria/ Eligibility Applicants must * be nationals of a developing Commonwealth country * be active in Internet Governance related issues in their field of expertise or their country. * play an active role at the IGF, presenting in a workshop or panel or presenting their work in the IGF Market place. * be able to demonstrate how their participation will benefit their country and ensure security, affordability in providing access for all. Terms & Conditions The travel bursary will cover cost of return economy air travel. All other accommodation, meals and local costs will have to be covered by the applicants themselves. Visa application and related costs will also be covered by the applicants. The final confirmation of the award of the travel bursary will be made once the visa is in hand. Any last minute cancellation or failure to attend will cancel the terms of the bursary and a full refund of costs will have to be made. Awardees will be re-imbursed for travel costs after the submission of a report at the end of the event. A report of around 500 words, must be submitted no later than 4 weeks after the completion of the event. The report should describe the experience, including a brief summary of the work undertaken by the applicant, together with the skills and experience gained. The report should address how the placement has been of benefit to the applicant in relation to his / her course of study, new skills learned, future career prospects and personal development. If a satisfactory report is not submitted within that time, the Secretariat will consider it a breach of the Terms & Conditions and may refuse to reimburse the costs of travel. Selection Process Submissions via an application form (available on the web) must include a supporting statement (not more than 200 words) of how the proposed opportunity ensures secure and affordable access for all in a Commonwealth country. Applicants must include references, from academic tutor or line manager. Selection Committee shall make the final selection based on the funds available. The committee shall also identify a number of standby candidates in case a selected candidate does not/cannot take up the offer of an award. Therefore a number of candidates may be shortlisted for the bursary and advised closer to the time. The committee¹s decision on any application is FINAL. The Secretariat will NOT enter into any communication with applicants regarding unsuccessful applications. Timescales Deadlines 24th August Announcements Call for Applications 7th September Deadline for Applications 11th September Selection and shortlisting 17th September Review by Selection Committee 28th September Announcement of Selected Candidates Candidates make flight and visa arrangements and confirm all is in order 24th October Formal Award of Bursaries END

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Fwd: Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by McTim 07 Sep '09

07 Sep '09

All, On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Solomon Mburu<solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also concur with Walu on this. The deliberations out of the on-going > EAIGF, will make our East African voice be heard at the > internationational level. Is there a single "EA voice" on IG issues? I understand the notion of having a EA policy framework coming out of the EAIGF. That is a very powerful role for the EAIGF indeed. My objection is mainly that we seem to think in terms of nation states as the basic unit of IG policy making. From my experience, that is not the case, and I oppose any attempts to make it so. Find me at lunch, we can talk more ;-) Rgds, McTim > > On 07/09/2009, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> McTim, >> >> thanx for your observations. i think what Vincent meant was the bigger >> picture which is that for our issues to be 'felt' or 'heard' at a global >> level, it counts to speak as a Region. >> >> And so according to me one major outcome from the ongoing meeting is to >> learn from each other and arrive at what you might call an E.African >> view/position on the various burning issues under CyberSecurity, Domain >> mngt, Infrastrucutre (e.g. undersea cable), Local Content, etc. >> >> walu. >> >> >> --- On Sun, 9/6/09, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, >>> Nairobi, Kenya >>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 9:00 PM >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Vincent Ngundi<vincent(a)kenic.or.ke> >>> wrote: >>> <snip> >>> > The expected outcome of this will be a framework that >>> ushers the region into >>> > the digital economy. The outcome will also be a >>> negotiating platform during >>> > the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum >>> (UN IGF) taking place in >>> > Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009, >>> >>> Can you clarify this please? AFAIK, the IGF is NOT a >>> negotiating body. >>> >>> Our output could be an "input" for discussion, but there is >>> no process >>> or way to negotiate anything at the IGF (which has, after >>> all, no >>> "authority" to compel anyone to behave in a certain way). >>> >>> See you at the jacaranda tomorrow! >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> McTim >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where >>> it is. A >>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > the same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: dogwallah(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dogwallah%40gmail.com > -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Is private sector corruption more or equally dangerous to society?
by Gakuru Alex 05 Sep '09

05 Sep '09

Excuse the cross post... They usually "fixed" by engaging in CSR, but let's face it they too are corrupt. Get over it! In a country where everything gets soaked corrupted, even concept too become affected. Quite often, we excuse companies engaging in the vice as competitive and covert criminal spying/espionage ares overtly christened "business intelligence" With all the money at their disposal, do you think the companies are more dangerous for society or equally as bad? What about where they form alliances with public sector corruption to become public-private partners in crime against the people? could I have your views please?( directly or publicly) asante and regards, Alex

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Why Should Anyone Be Led by You?
by David Otwoma 04 Sep '09

04 Sep '09

Dear All, On Friday 18th September 2009 at KICC we (Association of Professional Societies in East Africa) shall be hosting one, (*Gareth Jones)* of the two authors of the best selling book titled "Why Should Anyone Be Led by You?" for a whole day at Kenyatta International Conference Centre. For those who want to debunk the four myths i.e. 1. *Everyone can be a leader. * 2. *Leaders deliver business results* *3. People who get to the top are leaders. 4. Leaders are great coaches. * *.....*you need not miss. See more at http://www.apsea.or.ke/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=… For leaders who are challenged when confronted by clever people it is a must so as to cure you of your !!!!!!!!!!!!! complex. (note the 5 Cs) Have a great Furahi day all. Kind regards, David -- David Otwoma, Chief Science Secretary, National Council for Science and Technology, Utalii House 9th Floor, Mobile tel: +254 722 141771, Office tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, P. O. Box 5687 - 00100, Nairobi, Kenya email: otwomad(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)ncst.go.ke www.ncst.go.ke

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Idea
by Rad! 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Here's a thought. Most Kenyans labour under the mistaken impression that to succeed you have to do it using the one-big-deal-that-sorts-you-out-for-life. Not true. I wonder if Safaricom, Orange, Zain & Yu would consider setting up application portals -- something like the apple app store. Local developers would submit applications that would be vetted and if approved, availed on the portals for download to their customers. There would then be revenue share between developers and the telcos. Everyone wins. Jobs created. Innovation fostered. Telcos make money. Pipe dream?

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NCUC Press Release on Our Letter to ICANN
by Gakuru Alex 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Dear all, As preparations for EA-IGF kicks off... I know Rod Beckstrom, the New President & CEO of ICANN listens to all Internet stakeholder thus I am inclined to believe that he will grant NCUC audience at Seoul, Korea Next month. He is conscious that the New gTLD Program - a substantial shift in the domain name system, requires very thorough consideration to ensure that all the sectors in the community participation, and all potential issues are understood and resolved before launch next year. The New gTLD are name-like, such as .coders, .network, .business, .kenya, .africa, etc. ICANN is further refining the next version of the Draft Applicant Guidebook that will explain how the New gTLD implementation will be done. I'll post a download link once it's ready. But most importantly, he is committed to the Internet community’s continuing participation to make the New gTLD Program enhance competition and choice for Internet users, broaden regional participation through the introduction of IDNs and community based TLDs, and protects the rights and interests of all. In view of the above, I am convinced that the below NCUC request will be granted a hearing. Sincerely, Alex Gakuru NCUC-Kenya, ICT Consumers Association of Kenya ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robin Gross <robin(a)ipjustice.org> Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM Subject: NCUC Press Release on Our Letter to ICANN To: NCUC-DISCUSS(a)listserv.syr.edu Dear All, Below is NCUC's press release regarding our letter to the ICANN Board of Directors and CEO. It is also posted to the NCUC website here. Please feel free to re-distribute it, blog it, re-post, translate, etc. the press release so we can have the widest possible distribution of our letter and the concerns it relays. Thanks, Robin NCUC Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 3 September 2009 Public Interest Groups in ICANN Appeal to New President For Fairer Treatment For Civil Society The organization that represents Non-Commercial Internet Users in the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) issued an open letter to the Board this week, expressing concern about the possible failure of ICANN's attempt to balance the representation of commercial and noncommercial interests. California (United States) – ICANN’s Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC), a group of 152 non-commercial organizations and individuals from 52 countries who represent the noncommercial interests of Internet users in ICANN policy development, recently appealed to ICANN's Board of Directors and CEO to meet with them in Seoul to resolve serious problems with its current plans to alter the representation of noncommercial interests in its policy making process. Specifically, NCUC’s letter expressed concern over ICANN’s adoption of a flawed charter for noncommercial users that disregarded the vast majority of public comments and concerns expressed by noncommercial Internet users. In late July 2009 ICANN’s Board decided to approve the NCSG charter drafted by ICANN staff, rather than the charter drafted by civil society in a 7-month long consensus process that included a wide variety of noncommercial interests and was submitted to ICANN’s Board by the NCUC. ICANN’s staff did not provide its board with the competing charter submitted by NCUC in order to properly inform the board’s decision. The difference between staff’s charter and civil society’s charter is stark. Staff’s charter ties council representation and resources to arbitrary and more easily manipulated constituencies, while the NCUC charter calls for stakeholder group wide elections of its noncommercial representatives and other leaders. NCUC’s charter model encourages consensus building among constituencies, while staff’s charter model encourages divisiveness and favoritism among noncommercial interests. “ICANN’s decision has resulted in significant damage to ICANN’s credibility within global civil society and has fueled further distrust towards ICANN’s decision making process,” said NCUC Chair Robin Gross. “Its treatment of noncommercial users in this instance has significantly called into question ICANN’s legitimacy to govern and its ability to protect the global public interest,” said Gross, Executive Director of digital rights group IP Justice, a NCUC member since 2004. The board’s adoption of the stakeholder group charter is part of ICANN’s ongoing effort to re-organize its Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), which currently consists of 5 commercial constituencies and 1 non-commercial constituency, the NCUC. ICANN’s GNSO is responsible for developing policy recommendations that relate to Generic Top-Level Domains (GTLDs) or those domain names that end in .com, .net, .edu, and .org. The GNSO plays an important role on Internet-related policy issues since its recommendations affect all who own or use GTLDs, including the way domain names can be registered, used, transferred, and any applicable fees and associated policies regarding the domain names. The process of changing the GNSO’s structure from 6 constituencies to 4 stakeholder groups is expected to be complete by the end of October 2009. In its letter the NCUC states that “there is a misunderstanding over non-commercial representation and participation in ICANN” and NCUC calls on ICANN to acknowledge that there has been significant growth among noncommercial participants at ICANN recently. NCUC’s membership has grown by 240% since 2008 and now includes 75 noncommercial organizations and 77 individuals. An independent study by the London School of Economics verified that NCUC has the highest number of different people on the GNSO Council of any ICANN constituency and that NCUC has the most geographical diversity among its membership with members now from 52 different countries. “NCUC represents an extremely broad range of noncommercial Internet users, including educational and academic institutions, human rights organizations, libraries, consumer groups, religious organizations, bloggers, open source software developers, development-oriented groups, arts organizations, and other noncommercial interests,” explained Dr. Milton Mueller, an Internet governance expert. Dr. Mueller, now a professor at Syracuse University School of Information Studies and Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands, co-founded the constituency in 2002. "Nonprofits and public interest advocacy groups have an irreplaceable role to play in a self-regulatory scheme dominated by business interests. Someone has to look out for the public interest. If we handicap noncommercial voices and divide them into competing silos they simply won't be able to participate effectively. ICANN's legitimacy and the quality of its decisions will suffer," explained Dr. Mueller. In order to dispel pervasive myths about civil society’s role in ICANN, the NCUC published a “Top 10 Myths about Civil Society Participation in ICANN,” a document that explains why much of what ICANN staff and other constituencies have claimed about noncommercial participation is untrue. For additional information on NCUC and noncommercial participation in ICANN, please contact NCUC’s Chair Robin Gross or visit NCUC’s website at http://ncdnhc.org. Contact: Robin Gross, NCUC Chair Milton Mueller, NCUC Co-Founder Tel.: +1-415-553-6261 Tel: +1-315-443-5616 Email: robin – at - ipjustice.org Email: Mueller – at – syr.edu More Info: Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC): http://ncdnhc.org NCUC’s Letter to ICANN Board of Directors and CEO: http://ncdnhc.org/profiles/blogs/ncuc-letter-to-icann-board-of NCUC’s “Top 10 Myths About Civil Society Participation in ICANN”: http://ncdnhc.org/profiles/blogs/top-10-myths-about-civil About the Noncommercial Users Constituency: The NCUC is the home for civil society organizations and individuals in the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO). With real voting power in ICANN policy-making and Board selection, it develops and supports positions that favor non-commercial communication and activity on the Internet. The NCUC is open to non-commercial organizations and individuals involved in education, community networking, public policy advocacy, development, promotion of the arts, children's welfare, religion, consumer protection, scientific research, human rights and many other areas. NCUC maintains a public website at http://ncdnhc.org. ### IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin(a)ipjustice.org _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers

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Refurbs Debate
by Tom musili 03 Sep '09

03 Sep '09

Dear All, We at Computers for Schools Kenya have been very closely following the debate on "affordable" computers - particularly with reference to refurbs. Many of the comments are informed and no doubt well intentioned, but many others have left us wringing our hands in despair! CFSK has been working for the last seven years to bring the benefits of ICT to resource-challenged educational & training institutions and community information access & resource centres. At our foundation, based on objective and empirical research, we sought to design an intervention model that would meet the needs of the client group within their resource limitations without unduly compromising quality of access or service. After reviewing several options (details of which I will not go into), we narrowed down quality refurbs from reputable sources as the way to go. Our decision was informed by the following: Intervention models in other countries. We were particularly impressed by the Computers for Schools Canada Programme and a similar programme in Colombia and Chile - all of which had achieved immense success in taking computers to educational institutions and community information centres such as libraries. Though these three were the biggest such organised interventions virtually all other countries in the West as well as the Asian Tigers had similar programmes but on a smaller scale. ALL were utilising refurbs from the corporate and related sectors that of necessity have to stay right on the cutting edge of ICT, and therefore have available functional albeit older PCs available from time to time as they upgrade. The needs of the target groups and the use to which they were going to put the computers ands related accessories they would obtain through us. We established that the refurbs we were able to obtain would meet their requirements: run Windows, run MS Office Suite, run the educational eContent available, and access the Internet where other requisite infrastructure was in place. Functionality of the equipment. CFSK was able to enter into partnerships with reputable organisations overseas that guaranteed that only quality and fully functional refurbs were imported by us. Working with these partners, we have over time revised the minimum specs for such equipment that we will accept - starting off with PIs when we started off in 2002 to our present day minimum of PIVs with at least 256MB of RAM and 20GB HDD. As part of that process, we even anticipate that from the second quarter of next year, we shall only accept TFT and not CRT monitors. Affordability, which we very deliberately put last. All listers will remember that it is only in the last four to five years that the Government has made substantive budgetary allocations for ICTs in the kinds of institutions I am talking about and very wisely too. In 2002 when we started, money for ICTs had to be raised by the institutional community from their meagre resources or from corporate and other donors. And even the allocations now being made by Government to these institutions, generous as they may be amidst all the other pressing needs, are not enough to saturate them with ICTs at the required level. Refurbs offered and still offer an affordable option that gives good value for money. To allege that refurbs constitute dumping is to be simplistic to a fault. Where the refurbs are not functional, do not meet the needs of the recipients, or are not good value for money, then that would be dumping - and it maybe that a certain amount of this is happening. But to condemn refurbs en masse, is to fail to acknowledge that this country's nascent digital revolution is as a result of these much maligned equipment - not outrageously priced brand new equipment. At CFSK we are for quality, and preferably new, computers. Admittedly, it would be lovely to provide all our institutions with ultra-modern 2.0GHz Duo Core computers with 2GB RAM and 200GB on the HDD, etc. And where they can afford them, especially with the Government's very welcome intervention in allocating resources for the purpose, we are glad to help them acquire quality brand new equipment. However, where an institution has limited resources, we must ask the questions: do they NEED the immense capacity that brand new computers at current "standard" specs provide, and should they expend limited resources on such capacity when they may in fact not need it? Being cognizant of the fact that ALL electronics, new and refurbished, ultimately become eWaste, CFSK working with both local and international partners has established and eWaste Management Centre. This Centre, through innovative disassembly, reuse, recycling and re-export is managing ICT-related eWaste in a manner that is protective of the environment and mindful of public health. Up-scaling and out-scaling initiatives such as this will ensure we are all protected from the hazards of electronic waste, including that which begun its life as brand new equipment. Eltimately, as one of the listers very wisely suggested, what is required is a level-headed consultation amongst ALL stake holders - civil society, commercial enterprises, a sampling of end users and the regulatory authorities - with a view to defining a rational policy in this area that advances rather than stunts the pivotal sector. We would be ardent participants. Thank you, Tom Musili Executive Director -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computers for Schools Kenya Semco Business Park | Unit 1, Mombasa Road | P.O. Box 48584-00100 | Nairobi , Kenya | Tel:254(0)202060919, Tel/Fax: 254 (0)20 2060920 Mobile (0)722-618788|Email:tom@cfsk.org|Website: www.cfsk.org

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Fw: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010
by Matunda Nyanchama 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

FYI From: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za To: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za Subject: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:40:51 +0200 NEPAD ICT AFRICA SUMMIT 2010 Scheduled for 9th – 11th February 2010 Cape Town International Convention Centre, Cape Town, South Africa NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 is a NEPAD Council and NEPAD Secretariat continental Information and Communications Technologies (ICT) event addressing a wide range of ICT issues in Africa. Building on the successes of the last three NEPAD ICT Africa Summits, NEPAD Council together with the NEPAD Secretariat and African Events Company iKapa Media and partners, will again raise flags to organize the NEPAD ICT Africa Summit, indeed making it possible for suppliers to meet ICT decision makers of the continent at one location and, furthermore to show competence by making a professional presentation in accordance with international standards. Over 2000 high level delegates and 350 exhibitors will take part in a well placed agenda which will include plenary sessions, thematic breakaway sessions and one-to-one business meetings between participants and NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 exhibitors. Key Objectives: NEPAD ICT Africa Summit aims to mobilize the key stakeholders and actors in the ICT sector including: · Stakeholders in Information Systems: Health, Community, Government and Business Informatics · Communication and Technology systems: Broadcasters, Telecommunications, Internet, Software and Hardware NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 aims at promoting and supporting business opportunities in the sector of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT) in order to encourage further growth and development in African countries. Africa needs this summit now. The successful execution of the programme will require the mobilisation of a broad spectrum of resourceful actors and stakeholders both in Africa and the rest of the world. It is going to be a wonderful experience hosting an event of such a magnitude on South African soil and we will be more than satisfied to receive your endorsement and support. Your collaboration and partnership will definitely take the ICT agenda to greater heights in terms of its focus as well as its depth.We are committed to creating platforms that bring about economic development for the continent. With such a vision, the company has been working with various stakeholders and economic development practitioners in Africa in identifying critical areas that require further engagement to fast track the continents economic development,ICT is one of these critical components. In this regard, NEPAD Council and its partners wish to invite you and members of your organization to participate in the summit and to use the opportunity to showcase your business. In addition, you can co-operate with us during NEPAD ICT Africa Summit 2010 in any of the following ways: Plenary session:-Participate in a plenary session of interest to your firm/agency. Sponsorship:- NEPAD ICT Africa Summit will give you an opportunity for your organization to increase your visibility/awareness by making your name and corporate logo visible to the entire target audience before, during and after the summit. Specialized trade fair & exhibition:-You have the possibility of participating at the planned specialized exhibition. This will be a unique platform for your organisation to promote your services and network with the right target group and a highly focused audience. Delegate:- You can participate as a delegate attending the summit on behalf of your respective institutions or individually. Delegates are given the opportunity to participate at one of the breakaway sessions, and contribute to various discussions. Please find the attached relevant information pertaining to the summit for your reference and to find out more about our sponsorship and participation packages please contact the undersigned. Kind regards, Charlaine van der Byl Project Manager Tel: +27 21 802 1191 Mobile: +27 73 037 8115 Fax: +27 86 564 7906 Email: charlainev(a)ikapamedia.co.za registration(a)ictafricasummit.co.za Website: www.ictafricasummit.co.za Skype: charlyvdb1

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Kenya IGF Meeting
by John K. Njoroge 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

Dear All@Kictanet: Yesterday, I learnt alot at the Kenya IGF meeting. As a young youth, I desire to be an IG Actor for Kenya, East Africa and Africa as a whole (if not globally). So, I thank the organizers for a well-organized meeting and a team that is really forward thinking and ready to join a Global Cause. As one of ISOC Ambassadors to the 4th IGF meeting in Egypt (representing Kenya), I salute and congratulate all of you at Kictanet and further, I encourage you to keep on keeping on and to keep up with the good work: Alice, Walubengo, Dr. Kerretts, Vincent and especially the CCK Chairman as well as our ICT MP and Chair of the Energy and ICTs Committee in Parliament. The future is bright, and the best is yet to come. Thank you very much. Kind regards -- John K. Njoroge Directorate of e-Government Office of the President Tel: 020-2227411 (Ext 22098) 0721962744/0770121699 Other Email: kabogojn(a)kenya.go.ke; john.njoroge(a)e-government.go.ke; kabogojn(a)hotmail.com

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Re: [kictanet] Internet Governance
by Jane Kagiri 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

Hallo, Please help me understand,when we discuss Internet Policy making in the context of Internet Governance what are we exactly refering to? Is it governance on domain names,intelectual property rights,root server management,internet security,spam or is it all the above. This is also in connection to what issues will be up for discussion at the EAIGF to be held from 7-9 September 2009? Where do I register to attend the EAIGF conference? Jane Kagiri Catritone Office Solutions

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BBC Digital Planet wants views on Africa internet
by wesley kirinya 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

I was listening to Digital Planet, a BBC radio program, a few minutes ago and they are inviting views from Africa about the internet (quality), fibre optic, opportunities and anything related to that. Details at www.bbcworldservice.com/digitalplanet Listen to the lattest episode, at the end of the episode. 8~)

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Invitation: 2009 EA-IGF, 7-9 September 2009, Nairobi, Kenya
by Vincent Ngundi 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Dear Colleagues, The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet), the Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) in collaboration with other organisations are pleased to invite you to the second East African Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF 2009) to be held at the Jacaranda hotel in Nairobi, Kenya, from 7th to 9th September 2009. The programme and programme summary are available from the EA-IGF website: www.eaigf.or.ke. The forums theme is: Advancing the Internet Governance Debate in East Africa: ³Thinking Globally; Acting Locally². The 2009 EA-IGF is a follow up to the inaugural EA-IGF that was held in November 2008 in Nairobi, which aimed at catalysing the internet governance debate in the East African sub region. With the increased access to broadband infrastructure in the East Africa region and the continued spread of sophisticated mobile services, understanding and addressing Internet policy issues has become a priority. The national and regional EA-IGF¹s will help prepare East African stakeholders to address the opportunities, strengths and challenges that arise, as well as ensuring that they have a voice in shaping Internet policy decisions at the global level. This year¹s EAIGF therefore seeks to continue to strengthen the national and regional dialogues on Internet Governance as well as; * Increase awareness of Internet Governance issues, including but not limited to local content and cyber security; * Continue to develop capacity and skills of various stakeholders and build regional consensus IG issues; and * Begin to discuss the development of a regional East African Communication policy, among others. The outcomes of the forum will be submitted to the East Africa Regulatory, Postal and Telecommunications Organization (EARPTO), the African Parliamentary Knowledge Network (APKN), as well as, the fourth United Nations Internet Governance Forum (UNIGF) taking place in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, in November 2009. The EA-IGF will also set the stage for the 37th Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) meeting to be held in Nairobi, Kenya, in March 2010. For planning purposes, please register for the meeting at http://www.eaigf.or.ke or send an email to meeting(a)eaigf.or.ke confirming your attendance; by 2nd September 2009. Kind Regards, ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Centre http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 ³dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!² ################

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Yes You Can! Monopolies and Prices Commission of Kenya and CCK
by Gakuru Alex 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

"Unlike Mr Nyarunda he differed on the pricing issue and is asking the Monopolies and Prices Commission of Kenya to protect small business who are fearful of cartel-like practices given the small number of players controlling the cables." ... http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/647922/-/ite… Under sections 23 and 47 of the Kenya Communications Act of 1998, the Commission is required to ensure that communications services are provided throughout Kenya and that the interests of all users of these services are protected with respect to prices charged for and the quality and variety of those services among other responsibilities http://www.cck.go.ke/consumer_center/

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Affordable computers
by Evans Ikua 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Dear listers, I have reliably learnt that the Uganda Government banned he importation of used computers in that country in the last budget. Then I remember that the PS, Dr Ndemo, said that the reason why we are paying 25% duty on used computers in Kenya is because there is an East African protocol that demands that used computers must be taxed. I also remember that the PS has in various fora indicated that its in the best interest of his Ministry and the country to put as much hardware in the hands of the people as possible. Having observed in the past that this 25% duty on used computers runs counter to OUR strategy to become an ICT powerhouse globally, its now clear that we must break from any agreements that we have with our neighbours that do not tie in with our own strategies. For instance, if Uganda bans used computers, will we be bound to follow suit? What if they don't have similar strategies or objectives and they don't care about having their citizens access computers?. Haven't we already done this as far as used motor vehicles are concerned? whereas our neighbours have an age limit of 10 years, we have stuck to our 8 years and the community is still strong. -- Evans Ikua, Chairman, Linux Professional Association of Kenya Tel: +254-20-2250381, Cell: +254-722 955 831 Eagle House, 2nd Floor Kimathi Street, Opp. Corner House www.lpakenya.org

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