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Re: [kictanet] Global Internet: Greg Wyler May Beat Elon Musk, Google, Facebook - Bloomberg
by Ali Hussein 22 Dec '16

22 Dec '16

Tony Indeed. The new investment story is what led me to this particular two year old story which is still relevant today. I was hoping to demonstrate a new mantra in business:- Doing well by doing good. <http://t.sidekickopen16.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg4…> Worth a read and a thought. Too often we in business and government have lost our way by chasing the profit motive and power simply for the sake of it. If the three core cogs of society - Public, Private and Civic work for the better good of society we would solve lots of Global Problems. That's why we members of KICTANet can inform a lot on how we can get things done better and without any vested interests. Most of the people on this list will never meet in their lifetime yet the ideas we share among each other, agree, agree to disagree in a civil manner is something we hope the world will emulate. And that's why Greg Wyler is my Hero for this December. One thing that caught my eye in this article was how the technology his company is building is already reducing internet costs by 90%!! Now that's huge. He's not only saying that Internet Access is a human right but he's doing something about it! Happy Holidays to you all! *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://t.sidekickopen16.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg4…> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Tony White via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Ali, > > This is an interesting in-depth article - but it's almost 2 years old! > > Just this week, however, Softbank (the Japanese company who just > bought UK's ARM for 32 billion USD (the designers of most of the CPU > chips in phones and embedded devices)) announced an investment of over > 1 billion USD in Wyler's company: > > http://spacenews.com/oneweb-gets-1-2-billion-in-softbank-led-investment/ > > Things are on track. Can't wait :) > > Cheers, > Tony > > > On 22/12/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: > > Listers > > > > Super interesting story about how one man is probably close to > succeeding in > > building a Global Internet Service Provider. Interestingly enough he > comes > > from the premise that Connectivity is a Human Right and is largely > > responsible for helping Rwanda connect most of the country via Fibre. > > > > In tech-conference speak, what Wyler’s been doing for the past dozen > years > > is connecting “the other 3 billion.” This is the half of the world’s > > population that for various reasons is not online. Companies such as > Google > > and Facebook have received a lot of attention for their philanthropic > plans > > to bring the Internet to the developing world. Mark Zuckerberg, for > example, > > invited Time to follow him around rural India for a story about his > > evolution as a philanthropist and business leader, though he provided few > > specifics on what Facebook intends to do for India’s poor. And Elon > Musk—he > > of Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and the Hyperloop—has received a wave of press, > and > > $1 billion in capital from Google and Fidelity—after unveiling his own > space > > Internet plan. > > > > Read on:- > > > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-01-22/the- > new-space-race-one-man-s-mission-to-build-a-galactic-internet-i58i2dp6 > > > > > > Ali Hussein > > Principal > > Hussein & Associates > > +254 0713 601113 > > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what > > no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > -- > Tony White > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Global Internet: Greg Wyler May Beat Elon Musk, Google, Facebook - Bloomberg
by Ali Hussein 22 Dec '16

22 Dec '16

Listers Super interesting story about how one man is probably close to succeeding in building a Global Internet Service Provider. Interestingly enough he comes from the premise that Connectivity is a Human Right and is largely responsible for helping Rwanda connect most of the country via Fibre. In tech-conference speak, what Wyler’s been doing for the past dozen years is connecting “the other 3 billion.” This is the half of the world’s population that for various reasons is not online. Companies such as Google and Facebook have received a lot of attention for their philanthropic plans to bring the Internet to the developing world. Mark Zuckerberg, for example, invited Time to follow him around rural India for a story about his evolution as a philanthropist and business leader, though he provided few specifics on what Facebook intends to do for India’s poor. And Elon Musk—he of Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and the Hyperloop—has received a wave of press, and $1 billion in capital from Google and Fidelity—after unveiling his own space Internet plan. Read on:- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-01-22/the-new-space-race-one-m… Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] Flying of Drones in Kenya?
by Barrack Otieno 21 Dec '16

21 Dec '16

Hi Edith, I understand you need to seek authority from the department of defence. Best Regards On 12/21/16, Edith Ofwona <eofwona(a)idrc.ca> wrote: > Listers, > > Does anyone know if Kenya allows flying of small drones for research or > recreational purposes? any licenses or approval required? > > Would appreciate any info or referrals? > > Thanks > > Edith > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Season's Greetings! A Year in Review, 2016 - DotConnectAfrica!
by Gideon 21 Dec '16

21 Dec '16

D ear Listers, Happy Holidays from DotConnectAfrica! Happy Holidays & Happy New Year To view in your browser, Click here <http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1102516344150&ca=108c9a76-…> <http://s.rs6.net/t?e=daGtFqc74Z8&c=1&r=1> <http://s.rs6.net/t?e=daGtFqc74Z8&c=3&r=1> <http://s.rs6.net/t?e=daGtFqc74Z8&c=4&r=1> <http://s.rs6.net/t?e=daGtFqc74Z8&c=5&r=1> <http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Season-s-Greetings--A-Year-in-Review--20…> * DotConnectAfrica End of Year Newsletter, December 2016 * * A Year in Review- 2016!* *Season's Greetings * * 2016 #YearOfTheWomen End of Year Message from Message from the Founder/CEO * *~ ~* *As Founder and CEO of DotConnectAfrica Group, it gives me great joy and honor to send this end of year message to the entire Pan-African constituency and * *international community of supporters and well-wishers all over the globe.* * Every year I take time to review and go over all that transpired throughout the year and share with you, as you have been an integral part of our journey. 2016 has been an involving and satisfactory year, despite the challenges of some of what we have had to go through. We are thankful for every part of the process and experience. I am glad to share with you some of what DCA Group has done and achieved. * *DCA Walking the Talk and Impacting Lives ** In fulfillment of our declaration of** 2016 ** as #YearOfTheWomen, DCA indeed offered** and created more avenues to promote the woman entrepreneur, the CEO, the President, the Head girl and the 6 year old who did not want to get married as she "wants to do her own thing". Thus these girls and women seem to have found more rewarding times within their daily lives as well as making important life choices. * *Our **flagship Trust program** Miss.Africa launched a Pan-African seed fund <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> through our DCA academy programme - an initiative that supports women and girls in STEM. Through this effort, we identify how we might support the impact and scalabi**lity of their initiatives.* * Most of our activities this year therefore were focused in the fulfillment of the program, related to girls and women in technology. As it is well known in Africa, DCA Trust is an early champion of "girls and women in tech" **among many other* innovative causes we have championed in Afric*a.** We started off with tech training program for girls internally at DCA, followed by the fulfillment of the most popular yearly "Miss.Africa" seed fund". The initial fund was able to award multi-country initiatives including Kenya, Madagascar and Cameroon. * *This year in October I was very proud to attend a graduation ceremony of Twenty Five (25) women <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> selected from over three hundred applicants who benefited directly from receiving the Miss.Africa training. The girls were trained on mobile app development over a 3 month program by a partner organization. I also presented the prestigious Miss.Africa Trophy award to the founder of the Kenya based organization in recognition of the efforts and collaborations in making the Miss.Africa program a success. DCA also utilized our #2016YearofTheWomen,#STEM4girls, #girls4tech and #womenintech hashtag themes to campaign for women all over the world by highlighting their work, recognizing the efforts, participating in their causes, and various women-centric topics and forums around the world. In 2017, we look forward to seeing more African women and girls benefit throughout Africa, with Miss.Africa program. * *"When you empower a woman you empower a community".In line with our mission of educating and advancement of Internet in Africa, other ongoing efforts of DCA include Digital and Social media dissemination, mobile platform development and training. We also have pipeline service oriented projects that we have been working on to hopefully launch in 2017.* *Status of The .Africa gTLD Court Case* * The unfortunate legal challenge we are undergoing with ICANN has been a burden to DCA's ongoing positive effort to expand and implement our mission to the people of Africa. Despite being assisted with Top Tier legal firms at all times, it takes much of our executive and research time over a battle that has lasted over 5 years. * - *In January 2016, DCA Trust went to court over ICANN's processing of the **Independent Review Panel (IRP)** ruling. **This found ICANN indeed violated is Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation and that the Board's actions/inactions on our.Africa gTLD application were not accountable* *. * - *In March 05, 2016, a United States District Court, Central District of California - Western Division gave a ruling granting an Interim Relief [PDF Case No: CV 16-00862 RGK (JCx)] <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> for DCA Trust by issuing a decision that ICANN should hold off from delegating the .AFRICA top-level domain (TLD) for ZA Central Registry (ZACR). **The court found "serious questions" going toward DCA's likelihood of success on the merits and a balance of hardships that tips sharply in DCA's favour.....[Cont'd].... As such, the Court GRANTED a preliminary injunction barring ICANN <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> from delegating the rights to .Africa until this case is resolved. * - *Recently on December 14 2016, the Ninth Circuit court of appeals also granted the unopposing motions on dismissal of appeals [PDF D.C. No.2:16-cv-00862-RGK-JC] <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> on the district court's lack of jurisdiction and denied ICANN's request to include language that DCA's preliminary injunction order is void and the appeal is moot. * *We await the court process that will hopefully concluded soon.* * African Governments Continued misunderstanding over .AfricaI wrote various public commentaries and sparked a debate about the ICANN transition having an impact on the US elections. I wrote to The Hill a message I titled "ICANN is already under the influence of Foreign Governments <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>". This drew an example of how ICANN allowed the African Union Commission (AUC), an Intergovernmental body to heavily interfere in the .Africa application so as to delegate it to itself. This eventually led me to take ICANN to Court. However. I did not expect that there would be another body that would try to change the rules. In support of the AUC, the African Telecom Union (ATU) recently came up with** a widely opposed proposal** from an **African Group's Common Proposal (AFCP) **for the modification and expansion of Resolution 47 to include generic top level domain and specifically cited .Africa. To make my views heard, I wrote in a public rejoinder to the proposal on an Industry blog CircleID: "Why African Telecom Union (ATU) Proposal Should be Rejected <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>". I** stated categorically that the ATU's sponsored Tunis "Africa Proposal" is the same as Uncle AUC's Dakar "Africa Agenda", proposed to circumvent global ICANN policy, and should be rejected! * *In response to the above, the ICANN CEO also wrote to Mr. Houlin Zhao, the Secretary General of the <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>International Telecommunication Union (ITU) stating ICANN concerns on the above proposal and that its initiations might have been triggered by some misunderstandings of some African countries on a specific Top-Level Domain application. This validates my long standing view that the African governments have always been misled by the vested interest groups on the characterization of .Africa gTLD. * * Finally, while we enjoy the festivities of this holiday season with friends and family, I want to give thanks to all our supporters, followers and those who believed in us as well as those who have been with us through some of our challenging journey of accomplishing our mission for the people of Africa. * *On behalf of DCA Group and myself, I wish you a joyous, tranquil and fulfilling Holiday Season for Africa and the world!.* *See you all in 2017!* *Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays & Happy New Year* *Sophia Bekele* *Founder* *DotConnectAfrica* *In this Issue* *Seasons Greetings* * (Message from Executive Director)Saluting 2016, the #YearoftheWomen* *DotConnectAfrica Recap; Global Policy Advocacy and Contribution* *Lisbon, Portugal: High Level Talk: Africa's development on EurAfrican Forum MeetingNairobi, Kenya: Miss.Africa announces 2016, Seed Funding Tech Initiative for women in Africa DotConnectAfrica Tedbits: The Innovation Issue* * Nairobi, Kenya: Our Impact Initiatives: Miss.Africa Seed Fund App Developers Graduate. Award Ceremony at eMobilis* * DotConnectAfrica Tedbits: "THE WOMAN'S ISSUE" * * Nairobi Kenya: DCA Trust Announces eMobilis as the Winner of its Inaugural USD 5000 Miss.Africa Seed Fund* *DotConnectAfrica Update: United States Court Has Granted an Interim Relief for DCA Trust on .AfricaSalute 2016 - The Year of "The Women": A New Year's Message* *DCA Video of the Year* *DCA Seen and HeardDCA Trust invited to the Strathmore SMC Roundtable: Promoting Management Science Excellence in PracticeAfrica's first fully electrified cross-border railway line opens from Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, to the Red Sea port of DjiboutiDCA Song of the Year* *Quotable Quotes* *Message from Editor: SEE YOU IN 2017* *DCA Video of the Year* <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> Miss.Africa Mobile App Dev Awards Nairobi *DCA Advisory Board Seen & HeardDCA Congratulates all of you on your hard won efforts, achievements, and successes in your endeavors. We value your relations! * * Michael Macharia - Kenya's Seven Seas Technologies raises $3m from Toyota to digitize medical services * Seven Seas Technologies Kenya has received $3 million from Toyota Tsusho CSV Africa Pte. The deal adds CEO mike Macharia into the billionaires list Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * EXCLUSIVE - Flashback to the 90s - "Building an inclusive Internet"* A trained molecular biologist, *Dr. Tan Tin Wee,* a pioneer ended up introducing the Internet and the Web to Singapore. He led the first Internet service provider, Technet Unit, National University of Singapore (NUS), for academia and research in the country. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * Salim Amin on "Panel of Judges" for Africa 2016 Photo Competition* The winners of the Agility, Africa 2016 Photo Competition have been announced and awarded. The competition drew over 2,500 photo. Read <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> [image: Nebiyu Yosef for dotafrica] *Nebiyu Yoseph has been named and will receive the "2017 **Modern Day Technology Leader"* * award by BEYA STEM, <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>* an industry group that supports the industry Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM). *Nominated by **AT&T*, in his role of a Lead Advanced Tech Support/Analysis at Wireless AT&T, Nebiyu is an Experienced System Architect with proven history of lead development and production roles. * Adding to her International accolades Sophia Bekele has been enlisted among 10 Ethiopian "Women Who Matter" - by the influential media The Reporter Daily, Ethiopia * Our own Sophia Bekele, is enlisted amongs " Women That Matter <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>", in celebration of the Ethiopian New Year January 11, 2009 aka. January 11, 2016 Civil Calendar. * What/who is your inspiration? Sophia Bekele "Disrupting the status quo, people who are game changers, my opponents, and underdogs like David from The Bible" "It could be film, it could be sports or a big company, but all made a difference. As part of The Reporter's New Year edition tradition, we selected 10 women who, during the years, made their mark on society. While some are obvious choices and some obscure, they were selected by their achievements and ambitions",* wrote Meheret-Selassie Mokonnen of The Reporter Media in Ethiopia, conducted the interviews with these inspiring women. Read on The Reporter. <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> (complete the CAPTCHA) * Selected media coverage of DCA Trust activities * * - ICANN rejects Africa Proposal Tunis Agenda saying Africa misunderstands ICANN policy <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>- .Africa: US Court grants Injunction to DCA Trust, says Balance of Equities tips in favor of DCA <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>- Q&A: DCA Trust Founder on Status of .Africa & Why Other African gTLDs failed to Go Live <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>- DCA unveils 2016 Round II seed fund tech initiative for women in Africa <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * * DCA Trust Good citizenry at Strathmore University Kenya * DCA trust was invited to the Strathmore SMC Roundtable. The theme of the Round Table Forum was *"Promoting Management Science Excellence in Practice"* and with the objective to give the students the exposure as well as help them to understand the standards they will be required to have as they seek to join professions in the management science area. DCA Trust in the past participated in the career day and advised students on best industry ideals and skills. * Made in Ethiopia: Africa's first fully electrified cross-border railway line opens from Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, to the Red Sea port of Djibouti * The dream is that one day the railway will extend from Djibouti's coast all the way across Africa to the Atlantic Ocean. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> *DCA's Song of the Year* <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> Loliwe - *'the train is pushing'* by Zahara *Zahara (Bulelwa Mkutukana) described "Loliwe" as a song written to inspire one to achieve their destiny through patience and perseverance.* *Quotable Quotes* ~ * "The greatest thing in this world is not so much where we stand as in what direction we are moving."* - *Johann Wolfgang von Goethe~* *Lets meet in 2017!* * 2016 the #YearoftheWomen has indeed been a great year for the DCA Group, and we can't even begin to list them all, because you have been part of our journey.From witnessing successful training of 25 female beneficiaries Miss.Africa Seed Fund who will go on to become a great group of developers in both web based and mobile apps. We look forward to seeing another group of geeks in 2017.We also saw progress in the .Africa court case vs ICANN where we won two important decisions where the Court granted Interim Relief or Temporary Restraining Order and later a Motion for Preliminary Injunction which stopped any delegation of .Africa. In the year 2017 we expect even more success both for the case that will conclude hopefully in February 2017 and for our in-house projects to scale further especially the Miss.Africa Seed fund project since women represent over 50% of the African continent's talent that is unaccounted for.We look forward to the new year for new opportunities and encourage you to continue walking with us. Thank you for being part of our journey. Happy Holidays to you and your own and blessed 2017! * *Thomas Kamanzi* *Editorial Advisor/ press.africa* *tkamanzi(a)dotconnectafrica.org * [image: Join Our Mailing List] <https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/email.jsp?m=1102516344150> * 2016: A Year In Review * * Saluting DCA's 2016 #YearoftheWomen * *#YearOfTheWomen 2016: Women Breaking the Glass Ceiling": * This year was aptly dedicated by DCA Trust as the "Year of the Women". From Simone Biles, the first American women gymnast to win four gold medals in a SINGLE Olympics or the Ethiopian Almaz Ayana to win the women's 10,000 meters setting a new World and Olympic record at the Rio World Olympics 2016 to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton First Woman Nominated by a major US, Party for Presidency for US election, to the women who work daily to make the world better. Viva to you all! Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * DotConnectAfrica Recap:Global #PolicyAdvocacy, Commentary and Contributions * During the year 2016 DCA Trust and its affiliates has contributed to and participated in several Internet Governance topics and forums that include : - * Commentary: Why African Telecom Union (ATU) Proposal Should be Rejected <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * - *Commentary: **Would internet transition have an impact on current US election? <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>, by DCA Principal for The Hill.* - * Q&A: DCA Trust Founder on Status of .Africa & Why Other African gTLDs failed to Go Live! <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * - *Commentary: The IANA Transition's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * * Lisbon, Portugal: DCA at High Level Talk: Africa's development on #EurAfrican Forum * *Main picture: EurAfrican Delegation Inset: Left: DCA Founder Ms. Sophia Bekele with Portugal President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa* International Entrepreneur and ICT Activist, Sophia Bekele was invited to a high-level key note panel at the Eurafrican Forum in October 2016, Lisbon, Portugal. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> *"Regarding technology and innovation, Africa is heavily focused on the apps economy, a gravitation towards mobile, cloud computing and internet of things (IOT). This is helped by the fact that women and youth are getting to be part of this innovation because of the work that organizations like DCA Trust is doing locally. As regards broadband in Africa, it is not so much the lack of connectivity but the quality of connectivity which needs to be improved."*-- Sophia Bekele * Nairobi, Kenya Our Impact Initiatives: Miss.Africa #SeedFund #MobileApp Developers Graduate. * October 2016: After a successful 3 month training of the Twenty Five (25) women selected from over three hundred applicants who benefited directly from the Miss.Africa Seed fund. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * Nairobi, Kenya: Miss.Africa announces 2016, Seed Funding Tech Initiative for women in Africa * July 21, 2016: DCA Trust in a* #STEM4girls* Pan-African campaign, the Miss.Africa program is mobilizing a Round II Seed Fund for Tech initiatives n Africa that will avail small grants to support women and girls in the Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM) fields to launch or expand their own initiatives that will increase digital opportunities in IT related training, jobs and leadership roles. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> * DotConnectAfrica Tedbits: "We Paved the Way" THE #INNOVATION ISSUE * *"Miss.Africa, Generation.Africa, the .Africa gTLD - * *We know we rallied Africa"* CEO, DCA Group, Sophia Bekele June 2016: DotConnectAfrica is very proud that most of the PanAfrica initiatives we pioneered in Africa such as Miss.Africa for Women education and empowerment particularly in ICT and STEM has now gotten attention of African leadership and mainstreamed in the African Agenda at various African Counties. Read more <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…> *Madagascar: Django Girls initiative empowered by Miss.Africa fund* DCA agree and believe in the power and untapped potential of Africa and we have made strides in ensuring that this potential is uncovered. *Kenya: Inaugural Grand Prize Seed Fund Winner eMobilis with part of the 25 women benefited from fully funded training* *Pycon Cameroon programming training session funded by Miss.Africa fund* *More pictorials from our activities can be accessed here <http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001dStwmmvxJntpQjUPOhj0JXjtPufy7SyzmdIgT4KVf-No…>* * Nairobi Kenya: DCA Trust Announces eMobilis as the Winner of its Inaugural Miss.Africa #SeedFund * *Happy Women's Month* March 15, 2016: The Miss. Africa Initiative, a pan-african trust program of DotConnectAfrica (DCA) announces its winner of the Miss.Africa 2015 USD 5000 Seed Fund as eMobilis. 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Fwd: Open Forum : ITU periodic review of the ITRs in 2017
by Barrack Otieno 21 Dec '16

21 Dec '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Elizabeth Oluoch via Internet Society <Mail(a)connectedcommunity.org> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:09:26 +0000 Subject: Open Forum : ITU periodic review of the ITRs in 2017 To: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com == Please, reply above this line == Dear Members, As you may be aware, the ITU will begin a review of the International Telecommunication Regulations <https://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/itrs.aspx> (ITRs) next year through an Expert Group on the ITRs <https://www.itu.int/en/council/eg-itrs/Pages/default.aspx> (EG-ITR). The first meeting of this group will take place in Geneva on February 9-10. The Members of the ITU Council <https://www.itu.int/en/council/Pages/members.aspx> called for this review in Council Resolution 1379 (attached) based on guidance from 2014 Plenipotentiary Conference, Resolution 146 on the Periodic review and revision of the ITRs. The review will begin in 2017 and will take into account new trends in telecommunications/ICT, emerging issues and obstacles that may arise from the implementation of the 2012 ITRs and WCIT-12 Resolutions and Recommendations. Key aspects of the EG-ITR: the EG-ITR is open to Member States and Sector Members and contributions will be accepted from both groups including from the Directors of the three Bureaus by January 25th; the EG-ITR will be chaired by Fernando Borjn (Mexico), the Chairman of ITU Plenipotentiary 2010 and 6 Vice Chairs <https://www.itu.int/en/council/Pages/proposed-VC.aspx>, one from each region; the Terms of Reference (ToR) for the EG-ITR are defined by Council Resolution 1379 on EG-ITRs (see attachment).The ToR state that the review should include among others: a). an examination of the 2012 ITRs to determine its applicability in a rapidly evolving international telecommunication environment, taking into account technology, services and existing multilateral and international legal obligations as well as changes in the scope of domestic regulatory regimes; b). Legal analyses of the 2012 ITRs; c). Analyses of any potential conflicts between the obligations of signatories to the 2012 ITRs and signatories to the 1988 ITRs with respect to implementation of the provisions of the 1988 and the 2012 ITRs. the EG-ITR will submit a progress report to the 2017 Session of ITU Council and a final report to the 2018 Session of ITU Council (18-27 April 2018). Following Councils examination, the final EG-ITR report will be submitted with any of Councils comments to Plenipotentiary 2018 where ITU Members will determine whether or not an update or revision is needed to the 2012 ITRs. ISOCs role/perspectives: A key question surrounding the ITR review is whether it will re-open some of the debates on the expansion of the treaty to include regulations of the Internet. The Internet Societys perspective is that the ITRs should help facilitate global telecommunications and should not interfere with the continued innovation and evolution of telecommunications networks and the Internet. And so it is worth considering whether stirring up some of the controversial issues is a desirable trajectory for a treaty where consensus will be important. As a Sector Member of the ITU, we plan to be engaged in and follow this process to review the existing ITRs. ITU Resolution 146 (Rev. Busan 2014) and Council Resolution 1379 both set out clear guidelines on the scope and mandate of the EG-ITR; it will be important that the work of this group remain within these boundaries. Furthermore, the openness and transparency in this process is crucial for the legitimacy of the outcome. We hope that the review process is open and transparent and that it fosters dialogue and collaboration in order to find common solutions and share best practices. About the ITRs: The ITRs are a binding treaty that was adopted at the 1988 World Administrative Telegraph and Telephone Conference (WATTC-88) and came into force in 1990. The ITRs set out the rules for the exchange of telecommunications traffic across borders with the goal of promoting international interconnection and interoperability. A revision to the 1988 ITRs occurred in 2012 at the World Conference on International Telecommunication (WCIT) in Dubai. Some of the amendments that were perceived by some Member States as expanding the ITUs role in Internet governance were not accepted by those states, with the result that 89 of the 114 Member States <https://www.itu.int/osg/wcit-12/highlights/signatories.html> present signed the ITRs and 55 Member States refused to sign. Depending on inputs from the ITU membership, the ITR review process might also consider some of the limitations that may motivate non-signatories not to accede to the 2012 ITRs as well as those that motivated Member States not to sign. Useful Links: 1988 International Telecommunication Regulations <https://www.itu.int/pub/T-REG-ACT-1988> 2012 International Telecommunication Regulations <https://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Documents/final-acts-wcit-12.pdf> Treaty Signing Process Explained <https://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/treaties-signing.aspx> We will keep you informed of developments /progress on this EG-ITR. Please stay tuned for more information. Regards, ------------------------------ Elizabeth Oluoch Policy Advisor Internet Society Email: Oluoch(a)isoc.org Direct: + 1 703 439 2138 ------------------------------ Reply to Sender : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&SenderKey… Reply to Discussion : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&MID=13728… To Download the attachment(s) click on the link below: https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/ViewAttachment/?DocumentKey=e8e… (if the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into your web browser) ------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to "Open Forum" as otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com. To change your subscriptions, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/preferences?section=Subscriptions&MDATE=…. To unsubscribe from this community discussion, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/HigherLogic/eGroups/Unsubscribe.aspx?Use…. -- Barrack O. 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PesaCheck Fellowship – Nairobi, Kenya
by Grace Githaiga 20 Dec '16

20 Dec '16

Listers This might be of interest to someone. Rgds Grace Code for Kenyais sponsoring a one-year part-time Fellowship for an outstanding individual who will join thePesaCheckteam, to help research and fact-check public statements by public figures to ensure that they’re giving citizens accurate and actionable information. https://opportunities.codeforafrica.org/2016/12/16/pesacheck-fellowship-nai… Best regards Githaiga, Grace

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Re: [kictanet] WSIS Forum 2017
by Bonface Witaba 20 Dec '16

20 Dec '16

Seasons Greetings Listers, For those who might be interested in being panelists at the WSIS Forum 2017: https://www.itu.int/net4/wsis/forum/2017/Pages/HLTFs Kind regards Bonface Witaba Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, 20 Dec, 2016 at 11:26, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kenyan Tech Engineer, Zak Muriuki, Died in Ethiopian Jail (Baiju Shah) 2. Re: Kenyan Tech Engineer, Zak Muriuki, Died in Ethiopian Jail (Athar Ahmad Bhatti) 3. Re: Kenyan Tech Engineer, Zak Muriuki, Died in Ethiopian Jail (Athar Ahmad Bhatti) 4. Wanted: Female Role Models in ICT in Africa (Mwendwa Kivuva) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:31:55 +0300 From: Baiju Shah <baiju(a)telemedia.co.ke> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenyan Tech Engineer, Zak Muriuki, Died in Ethiopian Jail Message-ID: <61BB686D-E332-43E0-98B0-3530161754EE(a)telemedia.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 RIP - Zak ... > On 19 Dec 2016, at 14:32, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Many thanks for this email, we empathize with the families of the > Kenyan techies. I also want to thank Mr. Esuchi for responding even > though it appears to be a public relations exercise. We hope that this > matter is treated with the seriousness it deserves so that our Kenyan > colleagues can be released otherwise it will reverse our efforts to > promote regional business ties and interrogation. We have seen similar > cases in South Sudan as well and it is high time the government > intervenes as it did with regard to the cases in Saudi Arabia. > Please keep us updated Kevin so that we can have the correct picture > on what is happening. > > Regards > > Regards > >> On 12/19/16, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> ?What I can say for sure is that the government could have, and more >> importantly now, could do much to end the suffering of these families.? >> >> The least they can do is to compel the Ethiopian authorities to formally >> charge all the suspects (others such as Maxwell Ochieng and Oscar Otindo >> have been there for much longer than Jedrick Mugo and the Late Zak Muriuki. >> It was Zak who found a way to communicate to their families of their >> whereabouts and shared the funds and food channeled to him by the company >> and family, plus many others from other African countries. He also took on >> the role of their 'protector' while in prison). >> >> It is a great injustice to be continuously kept in remand on some of the >> flimsiest reasons ever given in a court of law. Zak's last straw was when >> the Judges indicated that the ruling was ready but it was in a handwritten >> format and needed to be typed. This was on Oct 27th and the new ruling date >> was set to January. He came from very high spirits and quickly went into >> depression. This has always been the narrative with the court. I was there >> during the August hearing and they said that they needed to go on leave >> thus pushing it to the Oct date. >> >> All this time wives and children and families were without their loved ones >> - and with no officially permitted visits. >> >> Finally, Zak was my colleague of many years. As for the company I will ask >> you to listen very carefully on what these families themselves are saying. >> What I know is that these two companies have spent MILLIONS of shillings >> going back and forth to Addis and everywhere else they can to find a >> solution, legal fees, school and family upkeep fees aside to the salaries >> being paid as usual. There has been a team of lawyers both in Ethiopia and >> Kenya. >> >> Tomorrow the 19th is Zak's memorial service at the Lutheran Church on >> Nyerere Rd, starting at 10 AM (see attached map for directions). Afterwards >> we have also planned a peaceful march to light candles at the Ethiopian >> embassy - as many as the days that they held him without any charge. (PS: >> The police have been duly notified). >> >> Anyone that has a means to facilitate that the rest in prison are given a >> fair trial, please side bar. >> >> RIP brother Zak. >> >> >> ? >> >> Kevin >> >> On 18 December 2016 at 08:09, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Tony >>> >>> Very good point. Infact I wonder how in the first place did this company >>> or companies accept to do work in a country like Ethiopia without >>> ensuring >>> they have ALL the relevant licenses and government approvals. We all know >>> Ethiopia is one of the most oppressive countries in the world right now. >>> Chasing dollars without enduring you are on the right side of the law is >>> simply criminal. They ought to be charged for reckless endangerment of >>> their employees' lives. >>> >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 18 Dec 2016, at 7:27 AM, Tony White via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> What I find most disgusting in this case is that they appear to have >>> been totally abandoned by their employer! It is easy to blame >>> 'serikali', but the employer should have been on the ground with >>> competent lawyers etc. to resolve this - *not* "we couldn't find the >>> ambassador" for 2 years!! >>> >>> RIP Zak. >>> >>> >>> On 17/12/2016, Barrack Otieno via kictanet >>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ali, >>> >>> >>> I read the same and i must say it is terrible, the worst bit is that >>> >>> the Kenyan Ambassador could not be reached to help resolve the problem >>> >>> if this is true somebody needs to go home, we cannot have public >>> >>> servants who cannot help the Kenyan public , it is the epitome of >>> >>> arrogance if there is truth in it. It is bad in this day and age for >>> >>> public servants to ignore requests from the public, anyone who know >>> >>> this issue well should enlighten us but as an ICT community we must >>> >>> say no to the way this issue appears to be handled in a pedestrian >>> >>> manner with the same breath that we opposed the ICT bill. >>> >>> >>> We need to join hands and petition the government on this matter. >>> >>> Justice be our shield and defender May we dwell in unity, Peace and >>> >>> liberty, Plenty be found within our borders >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On 12/17/16, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Listers >>> >>> >>> Saddest news. It also appears that there are three more Kenyan ICT >>> >>> Practitioners who are still languishing in prison in Ethiopia. The main >>> >>> charge is that they are accused of installing communication equipment >>> >>> without a license. Mugo, was arrested with Zak (may the almighty rest his >>> >>> soul in peace) over a year ago and Osborne Otinda with his colleague >>> >>> Maxwell >>> >>> Odhiambo (according to today's Nation, Page 3) were arrested in October >>> >>> 2014 >>> >>> and are still in jail. >>> >>> >>> Excerpts:- >>> >>> >>> (Addis Standard) ? The body of a Kenyan engineer who died while in an >>> >>> Ethiopian prison has arrived home on Thursday Dec. 11th. >>> >>> >>> Zak Muriuki, a father of two girls (pictured) and a tech engineer by >>> >>> profession, arrived in Ethiopia nearly two years ago on January 9, 2015, >>> >>> according to information obtained by Addis Standard. He was arrested on >>> >>> January 10 along with another Kenyan, Jadrick Mugo, who is still in >>> >>> prison. >>> >>> >>> Read on:- >>> >>> >>> http://www.ayyaantuu.net/kenyan-tech-engineer-zak-muriuki/ >>> >>> >>> It also appears that the government is doing what it can to get the >>> >>> Kenyans >>> >>> released. >>> >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> Principal >>> >>> Hussein & Associates >>> >>> +254 0713 601113 >>> >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> >>> what >>> >>> no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Barrack O. Otieno >>> >>> +254721325277 >>> >>> +254733206359 >>> >>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>> >>> PGP ID: 0x2611D86A >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> kictanet mailing list >>> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tony.m >>> zungu%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for >>> >>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, >>> >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tony White >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>> ailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>> ailman/options/kictanet/kevin.kamonye%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254733206359 > Skype: barrack.otieno > PGP ID: 0x2611D86A > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/baiju%40telemedia.co.… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:26:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Athar Ahmad Bhatti <atharab(a)gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenyan Tech Engineer, Zak Muriuki, Died in Ethiopian Jail Message-ID: <C9E4EC6837B6D218.60BA9D68-7A4C-4985-A38F-6EBB6D8ABAF1(a)mail.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

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Wanted: Female Role Models in ICT in Africa
by Mwendwa Kivuva 20 Dec '16

20 Dec '16

This might be of interest to ladies role models within the ICT space in Africa. Please share widely. Begin forwarded message: *From: *Lillian Achom <lillian.achom(a)afchix.org> *Subject: **Video Recording of Women In Technology as Role Models* *Date: *12 December 2016 at 15:05:12 GMT+4 *To: *AfChix <afchix(a)afchix.org>, AfChixUganda <afchixuganda(a)afchix.org>, KE-Chix <ke-chix(a)afchix.org> Hello, I send you very warm greetings. AfChix (www.afchix.org) is seeking to document ten (10) African women in Technology role models from the regions: Southern Africa, North Africa, East Africa, West Africa, Central Africa and The Indian Ocean. We shall be publishing their stories on social media and Televisions. For more information, visit this link: https://goo.gl/FQ3Q5V We believe that by exposing and mentoring young girls and women to possible career opportunities in Computer Science & ICT, we will empower them to join technical fields confidently. Our programs target the upper primary and high school girls between the age of 9 to 18, the young women who have freshly joined careers in ICT/Computer Science at Universities and workplaces and those established and looking to grow into technical leadership positions. We shall be disseminating the information on portable storage devices during our career and mentorship meetings with students. As one of the 10 African Women in Technology Role models, by sharing your story, you will be inspiring the over half a million girls in Africa to consider joining the Computer Science/ICT Career path. By sharing your story, your contributions in the industry will be visible to a significant number of viewers across the continent and beyond. Eligibility: Selection will be based on the following : 1. Must be a woman 2. Must be from Africa 3. Must be willing to share her story as a role model and grants permission to AFCHIX and AFRINIC and other partners to share this information on the various online and offline channels 4. Academic Qualification: Must have studied or is studying any S.T.E.M -related programs (eg, Software Engineering, Computer Science, Mathematics, etc). 5. Technical Roles: Those currently playing a technical Role are highly recommended 6. Managerial Roles: Those who transitioned from Technical to Managerial roles are highly recommended 7. Might be a mentor or not necessarily a mentor to anyone 8. Might have an inspiring story of how she fell in love with, eg Mathematics. Some Important Dates: December 12th 2016 - Nomination forms open to applicants February 12th 2017 -Close of Nominations February 28th 2017 -Announcement of Selected candidates to all participants *NOMINATION FORM * <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSch6BwXsvY_QUKhKjWJ4wNesC2DwEtPzFC…>Please fill in this brief nomination form for a possible selection. You can nominate yourself or someone else Please share this within your networks. For any inquiries, reach us on: lillian.achom(a)afchix.org Wishing you all a very merry Christmas and prosperous 2017! -- *Lillian A.* *AfChix* *Connect | Mentor | Inspire Women in Tech* *Website: www.afchix.org <http://www.afchix.org/>*

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Ten Principles for User Protection
by Brian Muhia 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

In (what I suppose to be) the spirit of Christmas, The Tor Project has published a set of principles that I think could guide policy on the technologies that we talk about here. They are designed in the same mindset as Larry Lessig's four principles of regulation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_and_Other_Laws_of_Cyberspace) Here they are: 1. Do not rely on the law to protect systems or users. 2. Prepare policy commentary for quick response to crisis. 3. Only keep the user data that you currently need. 4. Give users full control over their data. 5. Allow pseudonymity and anonymity. 6. Encrypt data in transit and at rest. 7. Invest in cryptographic R&D to replace non-cryptographic systems. 8. Eliminate single points of security failure, even against coercion. 9. Favor open source and enable user freedom. 10. Practice transparency: share best practices, stand for ethics, and report abuse. -- Software Engineer - Savannah Informatics Ltd.

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Season's Greetings from Communications Authority of Kenya
by Alwala, Rachel 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

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Feedback on the 2016 ICT POLICY - REMINDER No. 5
by Ali Hussein 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

Bwana PS Kyalo The above refers. Could you kindly update us on the way forward regarding the 2016 ICT Policy? We would like to know how the community can help further and when the Policy will be become a 'live' document so we can be able to delve into it and extract the gems that lie therein. We would also like to know how the multi-stakeholder engagement benefited the development of the Policy, what was added, removed and the criteria used to do so. Of course we are also keen to see the final document. Thank you and looking forward to your response. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Kenya IGF report
by Liz Orembo 19 Dec '16

19 Dec '16

Morning Listers, Please find attached the final release of the Kenya Internet Governance Forum report. Ahsanteni and happy holidays! Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF

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Fwd: [governance] 3 Books Presented at IGF
by Mwendwa Kivuva 17 Dec '16

17 Dec '16

FYI Dear all, (apologies for crossposting) FYI the books are available in open access. See below *Terms of Service and Human Rights* http://internet-governance.fgv.br/sites/internet-governance.fgv.br/files/ publicacoes/tos_0.pdf *Net Neutrality Reloaded. Zero Rating, Specialised Services, Ad Bloking and Traffic Management*. http://internet-governance.fgv.br/sites/internet-governance.fgv.br/files/ publicacoes/net_neutrality_reloaded_0.pdf *Community Connectivity. Building the Internet from Scratch.* http://internet-governance.fgv.br/sites/internet-governance.fgv.br/files/ publicacoes/community_connectivity_-_building_the_ internet_from_scratch_0.pdf Kind regards Luca Dear all, (apologies for crossposting) The UN Internet Governance Forum is starting next week and CTS/FGV will be promoting 3 books that might be of your interest: - *Terms of Service and Human Rights. *The book has been developed in partnership with the Council of Europe. It analyses the compatibility of the terms of service of 50 of the most popular online platforms with international human rights standards. It also includes the Recommendations on Terms of Service and Human Rights, <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/documents/igf-meeting/igf-2016/830-dcpr-2015…> one of the IGF 2015 outcomes, developed by the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility <https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8huv/dc-on-platform-responsibility>, last year. - *Net Neutrality Reloaded. Zero Rating, Specialised Services, Ad Bloking and Traffic Management*. The book explores the most recent net neutrality trands. 7 out of 10 chapters are dedicated to the various aspects of zero rating practices, a very prominent issue, particularly in developing counties. The book is the annual outcome of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Net Neutrality <https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htg/dc-on-net-neutrality>. - *Community Connectivity. Building the Internet from Scratch.* The book explores alternative models to expand connectivity in a sustainable fashion. The first part focus on community networks' governance while the second one analyses a series of case studies. Together with the Declaration on Community Connectivity <http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/3737…>, the book is the annual outcome of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity. <https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htn/dc-on-community-connectivity> Below, you can find the book contents. Free hard copies of the books will be distributed at the IGF. Here is CTS/FGV schedule <https://igf2016.sched.org/ctsfgv>, should you be interested in joining us and have your copy of the books. The Open Access versions will be released right after the IGF, under Creative Commons Licenses. I would like to thank all those who participated in the development of the books (notably those who are in this mailing list) for their great contributions. Please do not hesitate to circulate this email to any interested person. Best regards, Luca ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------- *Luca Belli*, PhD Senior Researcher, Center for Technology & Society, FGV Rio de Janeiro Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 Head of Internet Governance @ FGV internet-governance.fgv.br ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance(a)lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t

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Mapping the cyber policy landscape in Chile, India, Indonesia, and Kenya
by Grace Githaiga 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Listers This might be of interest to some of you. Rgds GG Mapping the cyber policy landscape in Chile, India, Indonesia, and Kenya 02/12/2016 GPD today launches a new series of mapping resources to help civil society actors navigate the cyber policy landscape in four countries: Chile, India, Indonesia, and Kenya The series, entitled Mapping the Cyber Policy Landscape, identifies the key cyber actors, institutions, legislation and processes in each country, analysing local trends and factors and highlighting challenges and potential opportunities. Its aim is to serve as a tool and reference point for civil society actors who want to engage in cyber policymaking processes in the four countries covered. Each mapping report was independently created by local civil society experts, with support from GPD's Cyber Capacity Building Programme<http://www.gp-digital.org/gpd-launches-new-global-programme-to-foster-more-…>. Alongside these resources, we're also launching a podcast series, Cyber Policy on the Ground, which will give the authors space to go deeper into the issues and questions raised by their mappings, in conversation with GPD's Lead Strategist, Matthew Shears. Read the first mapping report on Kenya here<http://www.gp-digital.org/publication/mapping-the-cyber-landscape-kenya/> - and listen to Matthew's conversation with its author, Nanjira Sambuli, on our new Soundcloud page<https://soundcloud.com/globalpartnersdigital>. The remaining instalments of the series will launch on a monthly basis from January - follow GPD on Twitter to stay in the loop, or keep an eye on the schedule below, which we'll update regularly. Publication schedule Kenya: * Read mapping report here<http://www.gp-digital.org/publication/mapping-the-cyber-landscape-kenya/> (authors: Nanjira Sambuli, Juliet Maina and Tyrus Kamau) * Listen to podcast here<https://soundcloud.com/globalpartnersdigital/cyber-policy-on-the-ground-1-c…> Chile: Launching January (authors: Juan Carlos Lara and Pablo Viollier, Derechos Digitales) India: Launching February (author: Shuchita Thapar, Centre for Communication Governance at National Law University, Delhi) Indonesia: Launching March (author: Leonardus Nugraha and Dinita Putri, Centre for Innovation Policy and Governance)

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DOT KE RESOLVING
by Abdalla Omari 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Dear Listers, Today morning hours, Dot KE experienced some resolving challenges, which have since been fixed. I would like to thank the Kenyan tech community for teaming up with us to resolve the issue. Thank you Kind Regards Abdalla Omari Chief Executive Officer.

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News Feed FYI: Addressing Hoaxes and Fake News | Facebook Newsroom
by Ali Hussein 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Listers Important developments in the wake of Hoaxes and Fake News which some claim contributed to the victory of Donald Trump. Excerpts:- A few weeks ago we previewed some of the things we’re working on to address the issue of fake news and hoaxes. We’re committed to doing our part and today we’d like to share some updates we’re testing and starting to roll out. We believe in giving people a voice and that we cannot become arbiters of truth ourselves, so we’re approaching this problem carefully. We’ve focused our efforts on the worst of the worst, on the clear hoaxes spread by spammers for their own gain, and on engaging both our community and third party organizations. Read on:- http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/12/news-feed-fyi-addressing-hoaxes-and-fak… Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] Fwd: TCRA to enforce use of .tz domain names
by Wangari Kabiru 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Happy Saturday! Tony, your pointer on the add on for KENIC at business registry is certainly a plus!...after first year, possibly voluntary continuity would be evidenced (by paying up more, increasing services opted for). Huduma Centres across the country might be well set to support KENIC for such. A close by nation, SA trade partners, they do not camouflage their home base identities virtually. For here it normally feels as though having a .KE is belittling the local entities global image. Yes, KENIC's PR work locally and even beyond the borders by partnership with agencies such as KNCCI and other such business chambers would support in managing this narrative. Today, we are all free as per the bill of rights et al. Start your Kenyan journey to for example SA today...you know freedom = visa etc. Launch your Kenyan business in SA = guide to foreigners starting a business in SA. The virtual space rules will high chances emulate the rules of the land. I believe this TZ position has a place when it comes to virtual dominance as a nation, more into their future. TZ is not waiting until that future to start reversing and nationalist PR campaigns. They are on it now! Thank you for the enlightenment. Blessed weekend. Regards/WangariOn Jun 4, 2016 08:55, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Actually Tony, KeNIC is at 58362 which is a good milestone. > > I think the moment we successfully brand our nation as a > business/tourist destination our TLD will be able to compete > effectively with the gTLD's. Look at South Africa, anything South > Africa looks cool , no wonder they have 1,046,266 names. > > Whichever the methodology, TCRA got people talking about .TZ, KeNIC > got us talking about .Ke, this is the way to go, with Strong and > sustainable institutions in Our Internet Industry we will get better > services and a more educated community. > > Thank you > > Best Regards > > On 6/4/16, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > At the time KENIC took over responsibility for the .ke namespace from > > Randy Bush, there were less than 1000 registered domains. KENIC has > > marketed .ke to the extent that we now have over 52,000 registered > > domains - and KENIC is ambitiously aiming at 1 million domains. > > > > Tanzania should follow the same route - and NOT 'force' the issue in > > the hope of making 'a quick buck'. It is human nature to resist > > anything we are 'forced' to do, especially where we see no benefit. > > > > Local companies, targeting locals, should have a local domain - and in > > Kenya KENIC has achieved this purely through successful marketing - > > eg. online stores have .ke domain names. > > > > On the other hand, local companies targetting the international market > > would be best served by a .com or other GTLD. After all, that's why we > > have GTLDs in the first place! > > > > The main issue here is *choice* - and yes, it would be a good idea to > > include an *option* on new company registrations to simultaneously > > register a .ke domain - and as company registrations are moving > > online, this will be a relatively easy thing to accomplish - KENIC > > take note ;) > > > > Have a good weekend, everybody, > > Tony > > > > > > On 04/06/2016, Wangari Kabiru via kictanet > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Blessed Saturday! > >> > >> I would appreciate insights here in light of this TZ position. > >> > >> Such a requirement, might; > >> > >> a. It be aligned to nationalism; buy Kenya, build Kenya (herein TZ) > >> Brand Kenya promotion too > >> b. Does a .KE give greater control to law enforcement e.g incase of email > >> trail investigations, money trail or such. Or it doesn't matter whether > >> .COM, .NZ > >> c. Would this possibly make the .KE at some point to become a freebie when > >> you register a business in Kenya - incentive > >> d. The global space and business is now virtual. In attempting to quantify > >> the import-export values virtually, what is the revenue paid out for the > >> non > >> .KE domains annually. What would be retained if they were .KE? > >> > >> > >> Thank you for the enlightenment. > >> > >> Blessed weekend. > >> > >> Regards/WangariOn Jun 3, 2016 10:40, Ali Hussein via kictanet > >> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >>> > >>> Listers > >>> > >>> Interesting developments from our neighbors. Something to emulate or > >>> should we leave the choice to enterprise and individuals? > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> Principal > >>> Hussein & Associates > >>> +254 0713 601113 > >>> > >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >>> > >>> Skype: abu-jomo > >>> > >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> Begin forwarded message: > >>> > >>>> From: "Mohsin from Extreme Web Technologies Ltd" > >>>> <support(a)extremewebtechnologies.com> > >>>> Date: 3 June 2016 at 10:12:00 AM EAT > >>>> To: "Ali Hussein" <Ali.Hussein(a)Campusciti.com> > >>>> Subject: TCRA to enforce use of .tz domain names > >>>> Reply-To: "Mohsin from Extreme Web Technologies Ltd" > >>>> <support(a)extremewebtechnologies.c

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Snippets from the BlockChain Conference happening now at Strathmore
by Ali Hussein 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Listers Snippets:- 1. Government in partnership with IBM implementing a BlockChain Education Platform to ensure efficacy of Educational Certificates. (Do I hear Matian'gi in the background?) :-) 2. Other uses for BlockChain being considered by Government. Great stuff! We are cheering you on!! Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] Snippets from the BlockChain Conference happeningnow at Strathmore
by Stellar Murumba 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Stuart, Blockchain in healthcare sounds like an interesting thing. Tell me more... I report on health and am thinking of a digital-business angle for a health feature. Regards, Stellar Murumba *"Until you dig a hole, you plant a tree, you water it and make it survive, you haven't done a thing. You are just talking."Wangari MaathaiFounder, Greenbelt Movement and Nobel Laureate P** THINK GREEN. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to!* On 16 December 2016 at 10:27, Stuart Houston via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke) Add cleanup rule > <https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Fkey…> > | More info > <http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc_serial=28024907984…> > > Hi Erick, > > I believe blockchain can be applied to medical records. We are currently > programme managers for MoH and WHO in deploying a county-wide, and possibly > later a nationwide, electronic health management system for public health > facilities. One of the challenges comes with trying to ensure security and > authenticity while the patient visits multiple health centres and hospitals > in the county. > > BC could be used to > 1) Ensure their medical records can't be interfered with, guaranteeing > their authenticity (important for insurance, legal cases and the person > themselves). > 2) Help confirming the patient's identity so as to link new records to > existing ones, no matter the facility they are being treated at. > > Maybe BC could be the answer, maybe not, but certainly worth investigating! > If there's someone interested in working with us on this let us know. > > Regards > Stuart Houston > Vimak Company > > > Studio House, 5th Floor, Marcus Garvey Rd off Argwings Kodhek Rd > +254 711 231726 | +254 731 993931 | info(a)vimak.co.ke > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Erick Mwangi via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Listers, >> >> While this is certainly huge - it's important to note Blockchain is not >> applicable to everything - it's a Time stamp distributed ledger. The key >> word is Time stamp where an existing authority is not "trusted". I can >> definitely see the land registry angle however am not too sure re medical >> records, the question would be what/why is being solved. >> >> Wish someone from the CSs team would give us the reasoning behind this. >> >> Eric >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 16 Dec 2016, at 02:17, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> >> On 15 December 2016 at 10:37, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> 2. Other uses for BlockChain being considered by Government. >>> >> >> Land registry, education records, and medical records. >> >> According to CS Joe Mucheru. >> >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/erick.mwangi%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/shouston%40vimak.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/nstellarnelly%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > >

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IBM eyes Blockchain technology deal for Kenya’s public records
by Ali Hussein 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Listers Global Tech Giant, IBM is in talks to use BlockChain Technology in management of records in the Health, Education and Real Estate Sectors. Read on:- IBM eyes BlockChain deals <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/IBM-eyes-Blockchain-techn…> Definitely a welcome development. The community will be watching keenly on how this develops. This technology is certainly game changing and its super commendable that the Government has taken the first step towards this. We do hope that this will also soon include the favorable adaption of this technology towards addressing the systemic risks in the Financial Sector. Yesterday, at the BlockChain Conference at Strathmore, we had the good fortune to be addressed by a Mr. Nyimbi Odero, an Advisor, Innovation & Digitization Ecosystem at the MOICT. We were impressed by the address on how the Ministry is collaborating within the Government to ensure that Innovation and Digitization permeates the whole government ecosystem. As a player in the Fintech space in this country I would humbly request the Ministry to look at what the Central Bank of the Netherlands is doing to nurture innovation in the Dutch Financial Sector. These guys have gone beyond the Regulatory Mandate to further the needs of the country in the New Normal. The white paper below (click the link) summarizes what they are doing but the title of it speaks volumes:- *Technology Innovation and the Dutch Financial Sector: * Opportunities and risks for financial institutions, new market participants and supervision Technology Innovation and the Dutch Financial Sector <https://www.dnb.nl/en/binaries/Themaonderzoek%20%20uk_tcm47-336322.PDF> Happy reading! *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.

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Cracking down on paid social media endorsement
by Mildred Achoch 15 Dec '16

15 Dec '16

Dear Listers, This may be of interest: "Endorsement or testimonials must disclose any material connection between the endorser, reviewer or influencer and the entity that makes a product or service available,” says Janet Feasby, vice-president of standards at ASC. “If there is a connection, it must be clearly and properly disclosed in proximity to the representation of the product.” http://www.canadianbusiness.com/innovation/advertising-standards-canada-soc… Regards, Mildred Achoch. Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Countries Do Not Control The Internet Companies Do
by WANGARI KABIRU 15 Dec '16

15 Dec '16

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2016/11/countries_do_… "...or instance: Have you ever read your favorite providers’ terms of service? When we click “I agree,” we hand over the right to track us, to profile us, to scan our email and chat content; to remove, edit, or share and sell our content without giving us a cut of the revenues. Facebook “likes” alone can reveal an individual’s gender, age, race, sexuality, political, and religious views. Target correctly inferred that a teenage girl was pregnant based on big data profiling—as her father found out when he phoned to complain that she’d been sent coupons for baby products.... One of the queries during the ICT review related to dominance to which this article delves into. Be blessed. Regards/Wangari--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

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Fwd: Digital Kenya Press Pack - final sign off
by Bitange Ndemo 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

Listers Please find attached a PDF of the final release - Digital Kenya. > > > > -- > > > > [image: wimbart_icon.jpg] > > *Jessica Hope* > > Managing Director > > jessica(a)wimbart.com > > [0044] 7814 714992 > > > -- [image: wimbart_icon.jpg] Jessica Hope Managing Director *jessica(a)wimbart.com <jessica(a)wimbart.com>* [0044] 7814 714992

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The Perfect Weapon: How Russian Cyberpower Invaded the U.S. - The New York Times
by Ali Hussein 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

WASHINGTON — When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk. His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html… If this can happen to Americans how prepared are we? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Bitcoin & Blockchain Meetup tomorrow Thursday 15th December 6-8PM.
by John Karanja 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

Listers, I would like to invite you to our Bitcoin and Blockchain meetup happening this Thursday from 6pm. Our guest speaker is Alakanani from Botswana, who is probably Africa's most prominent Bitcoin personality. The goal of the meetup is discuss Bitcoin & Blockchain Opportunities and ways we can all work together to address challenges in the African Bitcoin ecosystem. *Tickets are Free & Limited.* *Book here, https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-meetup-guest-speakers-alakananisatoshi… <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-meetup-guest-speakers-alakananisatoshi…>.* Best, John K.

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Re: [kictanet] 7th Edition of Diplo Internet Governance Book
by Bonface Witaba 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

Hi Listers, For those interested in the latest edition of Diplo IG book, kindly follow the link: https://www.diplomacy.edu/sites/default/files/AnIntroductiontoIG_7th%20edit… Kind regardsBonface Witaba Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, 10 Dec, 2016 at 13:14, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right (JImmy Gitonga) 2. Re: Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right (JImmy Gitonga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 13:04:03 +0300 From: JImmy Gitonga <jimmygitts(a)gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right Message-ID: <CACV-FdHR2bULDGY_4FJG-SD2FsGkQ6V7FamjeL0MwmG6wxUukQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mr. Kamotho wa Njenga, Here are my concerns. It is clear we all agree on that quacks should not be present in the industry. The word 'quack' is largely used the medical fraternity for people who look like doctors, act like doctors and talk like doctors. We have had of a few of these cases in this country. And the medical field does have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board. So we can also agree that quacks are not done away with boards or bills that are set up to make sure only certified practitioners were in the field. Quacks appear do to a different problem. then there is the matter of PART III - REGISTRATION OF ICT PRACTITIONERS in the proposed bill. 15. A person shall be eligible for registration under this Act as an ICT practitioner if the person - ... (d) satisfies the Council that he or she is a person of good moral character and a fit and proper person to be registered under this Act. On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:25 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts > Right (Ali Hussein) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:23:23 +0300 > From: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the > Facts Right > Message-ID: <8AEC01A2-6299-42D5-8E15-001028BAD0EE(a)hussein.me.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Kamotho > > Personal attacks will not deter me or others from saying it as it is:- > > That the very idea of this bill is flawed - Democracy followed or not. > > I would like to address your claims/comments one by one:- > > 1. I didn't attend meetings hence I have given my 'representatives' a raw > deal. Firstly I do not claim that I was anointed. When we first attended > (Grace Bomu, Walubengo and Myself) the meeting at KEPSA to discuss this > bill and it's implications we simply said we were Kictaneters and were > there as such. Anyone else on this list was free to attend as this meeting > was discussed on the list. I or Grace Bomu attended several meetings > including the one which was chaired by John Omo at CCK and the > Parliamentary Committee meeting where you also attended. Subsequently I > contributed substantially to online discussions between the then 'Coalition > of the willing' which comprised of KICTANet members, Bake, KEPSA, MOICT and > iHub. The fact that I didn't attend some physical meetings doesn't at all > negate my participation and contribution. However, that I do not need to > justify to you. I'm merely putting forward my thoughts. > > Who do you represent Kamotho? Since this issue of representation is a door > you have opened. Who is ICTAK? A quick look at the website doesn't tell me > much as to who are the bona fide members and officials of the Association, > when were they elected/appointed, how long is their term and when is the > next election or appointments? How about the management? > > http://www.ictak.or.ke/ > > The reason I ask this is since you or ICTAK to be specific purport to > represent the ICT Community in this country then proof of mandate is > important don't you think? > > A quick cursory search online to look at how such associations operate > took me to this site:- > > http://www.aiita.org/ of the All India IT Association. The information > there in is instructive. From the Board of Directors to Management, this > information is missing on the ICTAK site, > > Or ISACA (https://www.isaca.org/) whose local chapter holds regular > elections. > > Or the U.K IT Association (http://members.ukita.co.uk/ > index.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=archive&task=view&mailid=48&key= > d804decf5d06e74e2b30819cd84db9e8&Itemid=66) which holds annual AGMs. > > 2. On point 2 I begin by quoting you on your email:- > > 'Deliberations proceeded in good faith. Needless to state, this Bill like > any other is not a matter of life and death.' > > My brother, for some of us IT IS a matter of life and death. Imagine > waking up one morning and you have been legislated out of your profession > or business because of an organization that purports to represent you and a > government that is supposed to be a 'Digital Government' sitting by as a > bystander and seemingly powerless to defend the very people they have been > purporting to protect, defend and promote. > > You like any other Kenyan has a right to promote any bill whatsoever. In > the same breath, I and any other Kenyan has a right to oppose it if we feel > it will curb our ability to earn a decent living and protect our families. > Make no mistake about it this bill is a matter of life and death for some > of us. > > 3. Another quote from you to emphasize my point on my hardline stand. > > 'Parliament would be within its mandate to pass the Bill intact, to amend > it or to reject it altogether.' > > So why then are we wasting time in deliberations? Why legitimize a process > so that you guys can go back and say 'We consulted and hence this bill is a > good place to start and has the blessings of the community.' I'm sure I'm > speaking to the majority listers when I say this is unfair and flawed. > > This country has a habit of using certain clauses of our new constitution > to justify nefarious actions, we will simply not stand for it and be seen > to be powerless or do anything about it. One that is used to devastating > effect is this issue of public participation. WCIT12, Dubai, is still fresh > in my mind where the previous ICT Ministry officials led by Dr. Ndemo was > instrumental in engaging all stakeholders in crafting a Multi-Stakeholder > Position on ITRs. This position was then changed by the new regime that > replaced Dr. Ndemo. They did not even have the decency to inform the > community. This impunity must stop. Government is supposed to represent the > people and when this is abused it is a serious matter indeed. Some history > here is important:- > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2012-December/018900.html > > And if I speak alone on this so be it because Tyranny is Tyranny whether > it is executed by a minority or a majority. > > 4. To quote you..again:- > > My humble understanding is that KICTANet is a serious platform where > listers are at liberty to exchange ideas that are supportive of ICT > sectoral progress. To this end wisdom should flow unfettered. This imposes > a responsibility to ensure that information supplied is factual, evidence > based and not merely driven by a passion for online flamboyance. In the > alternative, this forum could easily degenerate to mediocrity of > proportions only comparable to that of third rate blogs. God forbid! > > Indeed Ndugu Kamotho. The fact that we disagree and can express ourselves > in the very list where the majority who have contributed to this discussion > have opposed this bill is in itself a testament to the maturity that > listers have demonstrated. If at any time I have come across as opinionated > it is because sometimes I am. :-) It is a flaw that I work hard every day > to tamper. I am after all human. :-) and I do apologize to anyone that I > might have rubbed the wrong way. Including you my brother. I believe that > we are mature enough to enjoy a mug of Malindi Macchiato (my favorite drink > at Java) and are free to disagree over it? :-) > > 5. Lastly the ICT CS, Government Spokesperson have been categorical > publicly in rejecting this bill. > > http://cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/government-of-kenya- > rejects-ict-practitioners-bill# > > Positions may have changed since then and it is the onus of this > government to tell us if in fact their position has changed, what > precipitated it and what is the new position. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > ****************************************** >

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Internet shutdowns cost countries $2.4 billion last year
by Matunda Nyanchama 13 Dec '16

13 Dec '16

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Blockchain Technology Tickets
by Mose Karanja 13 Dec '16

13 Dec '16

Hello listers. COALA, a collaboration between academics, lawyers, technologists and entrepreneurs on blockchain ecosystem have brought their signature workshops to Nairobi this week. On Dec 15/16 (Thursday and Friday), there will be a public workshop at Strathmore with some of the leading minds on blockchain technologies like Vitalik Buterin (Founder, Ethereum), Nii Quaynor (Internet Pioneer) and Bruce Schneier (Security expert) among others. More details and tickets are here: http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/ <http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/> If for any reason you or the organization you represent is not in a position to pay for the tickets, please fill this short form as soon as possible for consideration for libre premium tickets: https://goo.gl/8p3RJF <https://goo.gl/8p3RJF> If you are not around to attend but know someone who may benefit from this valuable workshop, kindly spread the word. —— — Moses

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Bitcoin hits highest levels in almost three years
by Timothy- Coach- Oriedo 12 Dec '16

12 Dec '16

As we gear up to the blockchain conference..... http://citizentv.co.ke/news/bitcoin-hits-highest-levels-in-almost-three-yea… Happy Jamhuri Day!!! Timothy Oriedo Certified Data Scientist (MIT) about.me/Timoriedo Timothy Oriedo about.me/Timoriedo

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Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right
by JImmy Gitonga 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

Mr. Kamotho wa Njenga, Here are my concerns. It is clear we all agree on that quacks should not be present in the industry. The word 'quack' is largely used the medical fraternity for people who look like doctors, act like doctors and talk like doctors. We have had of a few of these cases in this country. And the medical field does have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board. So we can also agree that quacks are not done away with boards or bills that are set up to make sure only certified practitioners were in the field. Quacks appear do to a different problem. then there is the matter of PART III - REGISTRATION OF ICT PRACTITIONERS in the proposed bill. 15. A person shall be eligible for registration under this Act as an ICT practitioner if the person - ... (d) satisfies the Council that he or she is a person of good moral character and a fit and proper person to be registered under this Act. On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:25 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts > Right (Ali Hussein) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:23:23 +0300 > From: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the > Facts Right > Message-ID: <8AEC01A2-6299-42D5-8E15-001028BAD0EE(a)hussein.me.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Kamotho > > Personal attacks will not deter me or others from saying it as it is:- > > That the very idea of this bill is flawed - Democracy followed or not. > > I would like to address your claims/comments one by one:- > > 1. I didn't attend meetings hence I have given my 'representatives' a raw > deal. Firstly I do not claim that I was anointed. When we first attended > (Grace Bomu, Walubengo and Myself) the meeting at KEPSA to discuss this > bill and it's implications we simply said we were Kictaneters and were > there as such. Anyone else on this list was free to attend as this meeting > was discussed on the list. I or Grace Bomu attended several meetings > including the one which was chaired by John Omo at CCK and the > Parliamentary Committee meeting where you also attended. Subsequently I > contributed substantially to online discussions between the then 'Coalition > of the willing' which comprised of KICTANet members, Bake, KEPSA, MOICT and > iHub. The fact that I didn't attend some physical meetings doesn't at all > negate my participation and contribution. However, that I do not need to > justify to you. I'm merely putting forward my thoughts. > > Who do you represent Kamotho? Since this issue of representation is a door > you have opened. Who is ICTAK? A quick look at the website doesn't tell me > much as to who are the bona fide members and officials of the Association, > when were they elected/appointed, how long is their term and when is the > next election or appointments? How about the management? > > http://www.ictak.or.ke/ > > The reason I ask this is since you or ICTAK to be specific purport to > represent the ICT Community in this country then proof of mandate is > important don't you think? > > A quick cursory search online to look at how such associations operate > took me to this site:- > > http://www.aiita.org/ of the All India IT Association. The information > there in is instructive. From the Board of Directors to Management, this > information is missing on the ICTAK site, > > Or ISACA (https://www.isaca.org/) whose local chapter holds regular > elections. > > Or the U.K IT Association (http://members.ukita.co.uk/ > index.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=archive&task=view&mailid=48&key= > d804decf5d06e74e2b30819cd84db9e8&Itemid=66) which holds annual AGMs. > > 2. On point 2 I begin by quoting you on your email:- > > 'Deliberations proceeded in good faith. Needless to state, this Bill like > any other is not a matter of life and death.' > > My brother, for some of us IT IS a matter of life and death. Imagine > waking up one morning and you have been legislated out of your profession > or business because of an organization that purports to represent you and a > government that is supposed to be a 'Digital Government' sitting by as a > bystander and seemingly powerless to defend the very people they have been > purporting to protect, defend and promote. > > You like any other Kenyan has a right to promote any bill whatsoever. In > the same breath, I and any other Kenyan has a right to oppose it if we feel > it will curb our ability to earn a decent living and protect our families. > Make no mistake about it this bill is a matter of life and death for some > of us. > > 3. Another quote from you to emphasize my point on my hardline stand. > > 'Parliament would be within its mandate to pass the Bill intact, to amend > it or to reject it altogether.' > > So why then are we wasting time in deliberations? Why legitimize a process > so that you guys can go back and say 'We consulted and hence this bill is a > good place to start and has the blessings of the community.' I'm sure I'm > speaking to the majority listers when I say this is unfair and flawed. > > This country has a habit of using certain clauses of our new constitution > to justify nefarious actions, we will simply not stand for it and be seen > to be powerless or do anything about it. One that is used to devastating > effect is this issue of public participation. WCIT12, Dubai, is still fresh > in my mind where the previous ICT Ministry officials led by Dr. Ndemo was > instrumental in engaging all stakeholders in crafting a Multi-Stakeholder > Position on ITRs. This position was then changed by the new regime that > replaced Dr. Ndemo. They did not even have the decency to inform the > community. This impunity must stop. Government is supposed to represent the > people and when this is abused it is a serious matter indeed. Some history > here is important:- > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2012-December/018900.html > > And if I speak alone on this so be it because Tyranny is Tyranny whether > it is executed by a minority or a majority. > > 4. To quote you..again:- > > My humble understanding is that KICTANet is a serious platform where > listers are at liberty to exchange ideas that are supportive of ICT > sectoral progress. To this end wisdom should flow unfettered. This imposes > a responsibility to ensure that information supplied is factual, evidence > based and not merely driven by a passion for online flamboyance. In the > alternative, this forum could easily degenerate to mediocrity of > proportions only comparable to that of third rate blogs. God forbid! > > Indeed Ndugu Kamotho. The fact that we disagree and can express ourselves > in the very list where the majority who have contributed to this discussion > have opposed this bill is in itself a testament to the maturity that > listers have demonstrated. If at any time I have come across as opinionated > it is because sometimes I am. :-) It is a flaw that I work hard every day > to tamper. I am after all human. :-) and I do apologize to anyone that I > might have rubbed the wrong way. Including you my brother. I believe that > we are mature enough to enjoy a mug of Malindi Macchiato (my favorite drink > at Java) and are free to disagree over it? :-) > > 5. Lastly the ICT CS, Government Spokesperson have been categorical > publicly in rejecting this bill. > > http://cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/government-of-kenya- > rejects-ict-practitioners-bill# > > Positions may have changed since then and it is the onus of this > government to tell us if in fact their position has changed, what > precipitated it and what is the new position. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > ****************************************** >

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Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right
by JImmy Gitonga 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

Question: What mechanisms are going to be used to ascertain that a person meets the requirements of 15(d)? My question is based on the possibility is that the Council could decide to arbitrarily choose any one to be a practitioner based on any criteria chosen by the Council. We would be led to believe that the people sitting in the council are of "good moral character and a fit and proper" to pass fair judgement. In Kenya, what does that statement mean? On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 1:04 PM, JImmy Gitonga <jimmygitts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Mr. Kamotho wa Njenga, > > Here are my concerns. > > It is clear we all agree on that quacks should not be present in the > industry. The word 'quack' is largely used the medical fraternity for > people who look like doctors, act like doctors and talk like doctors. We > have had of a few of these cases in this country. And the medical field > does have the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board. So we can > also agree that quacks are not done away with boards or bills that are set > up to make sure only certified practitioners were in the field. Quacks > appear do to a different problem. > > then there is the matter of PART III - REGISTRATION OF ICT PRACTITIONERS > in the proposed bill. > > 15. A person shall be eligible for registration under this Act as an ICT > practitioner if the person - > ... > (d) satisfies the Council that he or she is a person of good moral > character and a fit and proper person to be registered under this Act. > > > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:25 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: > >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts >> Right (Ali Hussein) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:23:23 +0300 >> From: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the >> Facts Right >> Message-ID: <8AEC01A2-6299-42D5-8E15-001028BAD0EE(a)hussein.me.ke> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Kamotho >> >> Personal attacks will not deter me or others from saying it as it is:- >> >> That the very idea of this bill is flawed - Democracy followed or not. >> >> I would like to address your claims/comments one by one:- >> >> 1. I didn't attend meetings hence I have given my 'representatives' a raw >> deal. Firstly I do not claim that I was anointed. When we first attended >> (Grace Bomu, Walubengo and Myself) the meeting at KEPSA to discuss this >> bill and it's implications we simply said we were Kictaneters and were >> there as such. Anyone else on this list was free to attend as this meeting >> was discussed on the list. I or Grace Bomu attended several meetings >> including the one which was chaired by John Omo at CCK and the >> Parliamentary Committee meeting where you also attended. Subsequently I >> contributed substantially to online discussions between the then 'Coalition >> of the willing' which comprised of KICTANet members, Bake, KEPSA, MOICT and >> iHub. The fact that I didn't attend some physical meetings doesn't at all >> negate my participation and contribution. However, that I do not need to >> justify to you. I'm merely putting forward my thoughts. >> >> Who do you represent Kamotho? Since this issue of representation is a >> door you have opened. Who is ICTAK? A quick look at the website doesn't >> tell me much as to who are the bona fide members and officials of the >> Association, when were they elected/appointed, how long is their term and >> when is the next election or appointments? How about the management? >> >> http://www.ictak.or.ke/ >> >> The reason I ask this is since you or ICTAK to be specific purport to >> represent the ICT Community in this country then proof of mandate is >> important don't you think? >> >> A quick cursory search online to look at how such associations operate >> took me to this site:- >> >> http://www.aiita.org/ of the All India IT Association. The information >> there in is instructive. From the Board of Directors to Management, this >> information is missing on the ICTAK site, >> >> Or ISACA (https://www.isaca.org/) whose local chapter holds regular >> elections. >> >> Or the U.K IT Association (http://members.ukita.co.uk/in >> dex.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=archive&task=view&mailid= >> 48&key=d804decf5d06e74e2b30819cd84db9e8&Itemid=66) which holds annual >> AGMs. >> >> 2. On point 2 I begin by quoting you on your email:- >> >> 'Deliberations proceeded in good faith. Needless to state, this Bill like >> any other is not a matter of life and death.' >> >> My brother, for some of us IT IS a matter of life and death. Imagine >> waking up one morning and you have been legislated out of your profession >> or business because of an organization that purports to represent you and a >> government that is supposed to be a 'Digital Government' sitting by as a >> bystander and seemingly powerless to defend the very people they have been >> purporting to protect, defend and promote. >> >> You like any other Kenyan has a right to promote any bill whatsoever. In >> the same breath, I and any other Kenyan has a right to oppose it if we feel >> it will curb our ability to earn a decent living and protect our families. >> Make no mistake about it this bill is a matter of life and death for some >> of us. >> >> 3. Another quote from you to emphasize my point on my hardline stand. >> >> 'Parliament would be within its mandate to pass the Bill intact, to amend >> it or to reject it altogether.' >> >> So why then are we wasting time in deliberations? Why legitimize a >> process so that you guys can go back and say 'We consulted and hence this >> bill is a good place to start and has the blessings of the community.' I'm >> sure I'm speaking to the majority listers when I say this is unfair and >> flawed. >> >> This country has a habit of using certain clauses of our new constitution >> to justify nefarious actions, we will simply not stand for it and be seen >> to be powerless or do anything about it. One that is used to devastating >> effect is this issue of public participation. WCIT12, Dubai, is still fresh >> in my mind where the previous ICT Ministry officials led by Dr. Ndemo was >> instrumental in engaging all stakeholders in crafting a Multi-Stakeholder >> Position on ITRs. This position was then changed by the new regime that >> replaced Dr. Ndemo. They did not even have the decency to inform the >> community. This impunity must stop. Government is supposed to represent the >> people and when this is abused it is a serious matter indeed. Some history >> here is important:- >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2012-December/018900.html >> >> And if I speak alone on this so be it because Tyranny is Tyranny whether >> it is executed by a minority or a majority. >> >> 4. To quote you..again:- >> >> My humble understanding is that KICTANet is a serious platform where >> listers are at liberty to exchange ideas that are supportive of ICT >> sectoral progress. To this end wisdom should flow unfettered. This imposes >> a responsibility to ensure that information supplied is factual, evidence >> based and not merely driven by a passion for online flamboyance. In the >> alternative, this forum could easily degenerate to mediocrity of >> proportions only comparable to that of third rate blogs. God forbid! >> >> Indeed Ndugu Kamotho. The fact that we disagree and can express ourselves >> in the very list where the majority who have contributed to this discussion >> have opposed this bill is in itself a testament to the maturity that >> listers have demonstrated. If at any time I have come across as opinionated >> it is because sometimes I am. :-) It is a flaw that I work hard every day >> to tamper. I am after all human. :-) and I do apologize to anyone that I >> might have rubbed the wrong way. Including you my brother. I believe that >> we are mature enough to enjoy a mug of Malindi Macchiato (my favorite drink >> at Java) and are free to disagree over it? :-) >> >> 5. Lastly the ICT CS, Government Spokesperson have been categorical >> publicly in rejecting this bill. >> >> http://cio.co.ke/news/main-stories/government-of-kenya-rejec >> ts-ict-practitioners-bill# >> >> Positions may have changed since then and it is the onus of this >> government to tell us if in fact their position has changed, what >> precipitated it and what is the new position. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ****************************************** >> > >

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Re: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right
by wamuma 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

Following keenly these new developments of UPDATES and COUNTER UPDATES as a silent follower and player . Thanks Anthony Weru Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Kamotho Njenga via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 09/12/2016 11:49 (GMT+03:00) To: wamuma(a)gmail.com Cc: Kamotho Njenga <kamothonjenga(a)gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right Fellow Listers, The purported updates regarding the ICT Practioners Bill that have been intermittently flying in this forum are fallacious and misleading. If indeed the author of the updates was anointed to represent KICTANet on the Multi stakeholder consultations on the Bill as claimed, then listers obtained a raw deal. The self styled supplier of "updates" was not present at the various stages of consultations including forums held at the Communications Authority premises, stakeholder position's harmonization at MOIC Teleposta, the stakeholders Retreat with the Energy Committee that included representatives of the MOIC, Communications Authority, ICTAK, KEPSA, KITOs among others. As much as there is zeal to share "updates", the good citizen is severely limited in terms of subsequent developments, having participated very tangentially in the process of deliberating on the Bill. Contrary to the antagonistic impression painted through and through, the stakeholders were able to reason together and by the time the Retreat with the Parliamentary Committee on Energy and ICT concluded, consensus had largely been reached on all the issues. The deliberations largely succeeded because parties adopted an open minded approach and applied themselves to intellectual focus to justify their positions on the Bill. On point was the Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Joe Mucheru who was able to justify his reservations against the Bill, not by displaying "power and might" but through a meticulously reasoned and deeply analytical presentation. Hard-line positions were melted down not by online braggadocio but by cogent arguments wrapped in sound logic. People persuaded others and got persuaded by others. Deliberations proceeded in good faith. Needless to state, this Bill like any other is not a matter of life and death. Parliament would be within its mandate to pass the Bill intact, to amend it or to reject it altogether. All the same, I have full confidence that the Energy and ICT Committee will sift the issues as requested jointly by stakeholders and make drastic recommendations on the Bill to eliminate any possibility of negative disruption to the Kenyan ICT growth trajectory. Thus, personal obsession should not form a basis for castigating the views or initiatives of others regardless of how unsound one perceives them to be from their own perspective. Listers must also be wary of people who will never approve anything as long as it has not passed through their own hands. As long as we are in a constitutional democracy, individual citizens wield a right to lawfully pursue any agenda of choice. Nothing for instance would prevent anyone from forwarding a "Nyama Choma Practitioners Bill" to Parliament for Consideration. My humble understanding is that KICTANet is a serious platform where listers are at liberty to exchange ideas that are supportive of ICT sectoral progress. To this end wisdom should flow unfettered. This imposes a responsibility to ensure that information supplied is factual, evidence based and not merely driven by a passion for online flamboyance. In the alternative, this forum could easily degenerate to mediocrity of proportions only comparable to that of third rate blogs. God forbid! Kamotho

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Update on the ICT Practitioners Bill - Get the Facts Right
by Kamotho Njenga 10 Dec '16

10 Dec '16

Fellow Listers, The purported updates regarding the ICT Practioners Bill that have been intermittently flying in this forum are fallacious and misleading. If indeed the author of the updates was anointed to represent KICTANet on the Multi stakeholder consultations on the Bill as claimed, then listers obtained a raw deal. The self styled supplier of "updates" was not present at the various stages of consultations including forums held at the Communications Authority premises, stakeholder position's harmonization at MOIC Teleposta, the stakeholders Retreat with the Energy Committee that included representatives of the MOIC, Communications Authority, ICTAK, KEPSA, KITOs among others. As much as there is zeal to share "updates", the good citizen is severely limited in terms of subsequent developments, having participated very tangentially in the process of deliberating on the Bill. Contrary to the antagonistic impression painted through and through, the stakeholders were able to reason together and by the time the Retreat with the Parliamentary Committee on Energy and ICT concluded, consensus had largely been reached on all the issues. The deliberations largely succeeded because parties adopted an open minded approach and applied themselves to intellectual focus to justify their positions on the Bill. On point was the Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Joe Mucheru who was able to justify his reservations against the Bill, not by displaying "power and might" but through a meticulously reasoned and deeply analytical presentation. Hard-line positions were melted down not by online braggadocio but by cogent arguments wrapped in sound logic. People persuaded others and got persuaded by others. Deliberations proceeded in good faith. Needless to state, this Bill like any other is not a matter of life and death. Parliament would be within its mandate to pass the Bill intact, to amend it or to reject it altogether. All the same, I have full confidence that the Energy and ICT Committee will sift the issues as requested jointly by stakeholders and make drastic recommendations on the Bill to eliminate any possibility of negative disruption to the Kenyan ICT growth trajectory. Thus, personal obsession should not form a basis for castigating the views or initiatives of others regardless of how unsound one perceives them to be from their own perspective. Listers must also be wary of people who will never approve anything as long as it has not passed through their own hands. As long as we are in a constitutional democracy, individual citizens wield a right to lawfully pursue any agenda of choice. Nothing for instance would prevent anyone from forwarding a "Nyama Choma Practitioners Bill" to Parliament for Consideration. My humble understanding is that KICTANet is a serious platform where listers are at liberty to exchange ideas that are supportive of ICT sectoral progress. To this end wisdom should flow unfettered. This imposes a responsibility to ensure that information supplied is factual, evidence based and not merely driven by a passion for online flamboyance. In the alternative, this forum could easily degenerate to mediocrity of proportions only comparable to that of third rate blogs. God forbid! Kamotho

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Revised/Updated Draft ICT Policy for discussion at Laico tomorrow, Wed 16th Aug 2016
by Walubengo J 09 Dec '16

09 Dec '16

Listers, I have not cleared with the Ministry but I believe the attached is a public document since it will be discussed tomorrow by the public. Find attached the revised Draft ICT Policy for your review. If you have any final comments, I know they will be welcome during the deliberation tomorrow at Laico. rgds. walu.

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Re: [kictanet] Promotion of Digital and Cashless Economy
by Ali Hussein 08 Dec '16

08 Dec '16

Mildred True that. With the right policies, willingness and political will everything is possible. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hi Ali and Mwendwa, > > If India can do it then hopefully Kenya can also do it :-) > > Regards, > Mildred Achoch. > > Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! > http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> I did too think it was Kenya. Why burst the bubble of an optimistic >> Kenyan? >> >> >> On Thursday, 8 December 2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> For a moment I thought that was Kenya... >>> >>> Oh well... :-) >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> >>> *Principal* >>> >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >>> >>> >>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >>> >>> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >>> >>> Nairobi, Kenya. >>> >>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely >>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >>> organizations that I work with. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> This may be of interest: >>>> >>>> "Govt introduces a package of incentives for promotion of digital and >>>> cashless economy" >>>> >>>> "0.75% discount on purchase of petrol/diesel through digital means" >>>> >>>> "All railway passengers buying online ticket shall be given free >>>> accidental insurance cover of upto Rs. 10 lakh" >>>> >>>> http://www.narendramodi.in/package-for-promotion-of-digital >>>> -and-cashless-economy--533456 >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Mildred Achoch. >>>> >>>> >>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! >>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>>> ailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/mildandred%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Promotion of Digital and Cashless Economy
by Mildred Achoch 08 Dec '16

08 Dec '16

Hi all, This may be of interest: "Govt introduces a package of incentives for promotion of digital and cashless economy" "0.75% discount on purchase of petrol/diesel through digital means" "All railway passengers buying online ticket shall be given free accidental insurance cover of upto Rs. 10 lakh" http://www.narendramodi.in/package-for-promotion-of-digital-and-cashless-ec… Regards, Mildred Achoch. Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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UPDATE ON KICTANET ENGAGEMENT WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS ON THE ICT PRACTITIONERS BILL
by Ali Hussein 08 Dec '16

08 Dec '16

Dear all Further to our formal update on this matter on 17th August 2016. As we had earlier informed you, KICTANet is working in a consortium comprising of ourselves, the Kenya Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA), the Technology Service Providers of Kenya (TESPOK), Kenya Information Technology and Outsourcing Services (KITOS), Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) and the iHub. The consortium after presenting a memorandum opposing the Bill was told that this was not among the options available to the National Assembly Energy and ICT Committee as the role of the committee was to consider the Bill and report back to the House. The Committee advised that we single out clauses that we would like amended and propose amendments. In considering amendments, the consortium was guided by the following: a) ICTs are novel and cross-cutting and therefore, many people in various professions may be defined as ICT practitioners if the term was to be broadly interpreted. The law should not target people whose primary occupation is not ICT or people who use ICT as an enabler to their primary occupation. b) There are many especially young people using ICTs to develop solutions to everyday challenges through experimental approaches. The law should not be crafted as a hindrance to innovation. c) After listening to the concerns of the sponsor of the Bill, where he cited quacks as a problem in the ICT sector, the consortium proposed that there could be a database of ICT practitioners but without accompanying encumbrances such as annual licensing, tests and mandatory training. d) Other issues were the need for a governing organ that was representative of the sector and the overarching principle that government/governance should be more of facilitative than a hindrance to people's freedom to achieve their destiny. We would just like to assure the network that we participated in proposing amendments as this was the only avenue provided by the Committee to receive our memorandum. We have always reiterated our position that we are opposed to this Bill in toto. We are awaiting the report of the Committee which will then be tabled in Parliament for subsequent parliamentary procedures. We are cognisant of the fact that the Bill is sponsored by the Member for Garissa Town who is also the Leader of Majority in the National Assembly. We had written to him expressing our opposition to the Bill and praying that Parliament help this sector by prioritising other crucial Bills such as the Data Protection Act. We call upon members of this network to join us in sensitizing Members of Parliament on our rationale for opposing this law. It is only through concerted efforts that we can kill this Bill. #KillTheICTBill Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Re: [kictanet] Introducing ForceCoin
by Erick Mwangi 08 Dec '16

08 Dec '16

Afternoon Everyone, A couple of mates from MIT have been involved in starting a new global currency called ForceCoin. This will run on top of SalesForce and will be VF developed by the global community like Ethereum. Current members are Deloitte, Accenture, IBM, Cannon, KLM etc They have been working with SalesForce the second largest enterprise cloud providers of CRM in the world, this will be built on top of their platform - this will solve identity problems and ownership of platforms as this will be a completely private blockchain that works as a public one. SalesForce is a pure cloud company unlike Amazon with literary every institutional investor having a stake in it - Hoping banks will come on-board.. On Monday 12th December 2016 ForceCoin plans to replace Bitcoin as a new virtual global currency! What a time to be alive.. https://www.ethereum.org/ http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/crm/institutional-holdings With Regards, E Njoroge Mwangi Technology| FINTECH | Big Data Cell +44 7539372742 <+44%207539%20372742> Skype: Erick.mwangi

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TechWomen Emerging Leaders program 2017 (Fully Funded): Deadline 17 January 2017
by Du Toit, Jaco 07 Dec '16

07 Dec '16

Dear Members of the Network, I am sharing the information below in case you are interested. Regards, Maribel Source: https://www.empowerwomen.org/en/community/events-opportunities/2016/11/tech… *** TechWomen Emerging Leaders program 2017 (Fully Funded) • 23 November 2016 - 17 January 2017 09:00 GMT+8 • United States • Techwomen- an initiative of th U.S Department od State's Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs TechWomen brings emerging women leaders in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) from Africa, Central and South Asia, and the Middle East together with their professional counterparts in the United States for a mentorship and exchange program. TechWomen provides participants access to networks, resources, and knowledge to empower them to reach their full potential. During the five-week program, participants engage in project-based mentorships at leading companies in the San Francisco Bay Area and Silicon Valley, participate in professional development<https://www.techwomen.org/program/professional-development> workshops and networking events, and travel to Washington, DC. for targeted meetings and special events to conclude the program. Selection Process TechWomen participants are selected based on the eligibility requirements below. Applications are reviewed by independent selection committees composed of industry leaders and regional experts. Semifinalists may be interviewed by United States Embassy personnel in their country of permanent residence. 2017 TechWomen Eligibility Requirements Applicants must * Be women with, at minimum, two years full-time professional experience in the STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) fields. Please note that internships and other unpaid work experience does not count toward the two-year professional experience requirement. * Have, at minimum, a bachelor’s degree/four-year university degree or equivalent. * Be proficient in written and spoken English. * Be citizens and permanent residents of Algeria, Cameroon, Egypt, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Palestinian Territories, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan or Zimbabwe at the time of application and while participating in the program. * Be eligible to obtain a U.S. J-1 exchange visitor visa. * Not have applied for an immigrant visa to the United States or participated in a visa lottery in the past five years. * Not hold U.S. citizenship or be a U.S. legal permanent resident. Preference will be given to applicants who * Demonstrate themselves as emerging leaders in their chosen professional track through their work experience, volunteer experience, community activities and education. * Are committed to return to their home countries to share what they have learned and mentor women and girls. * Have limited or no prior experience in the United States. * Have a proven record of voluntary or public service in their communities. * Have a demonstrated track record of entrepreneurialism and commitment to innovation. * Demonstrate a willingness to participate in exchange programs, welcome opportunities for mentoring and new partnership development, and exhibit confidence and maturity. TechWomen encourages people with diverse backgrounds and skills to apply, including individuals with disabilities. Women committed to addressing concerns of global climate change and environmental issues are particularly encouraged to apply. Selection Timeline The 2017 TechWomen application will be open November 15, 2016, through January 17, 2017. Semifinalists will be contacted via email in/around March 2017. Final decisions will be made no later than early May 2017. All applicants will be notified of the results of their application. To apply click here<https://app.techwomen.org/application/>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Network of Women with Disabilities going to AWID" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to WWDAWIDgroup+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com<mailto:WWDAWIDgroup+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/WWDAWIDgroup/DM2PR07MB15294D8D123BF1D0742…<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/WWDAWIDgroup/DM2PR07MB15294D8D123BF1D0742…>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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What It Will Take for Us to Trust Artificial Intelligence
by Ali Hussein 07 Dec '16

07 Dec '16

Listers The early days of artificial intelligence have been met with some very public hand wringing. Well-respected technologists and business leaders have voiced their concerns over the (responsible) development of AI. And Hollywood’s appetite for dystopian AI narratives appears to be bottomless. This is not unusual, nor is it unreasonable. Change, technological or otherwise, always excites the imagination. And it often makes us a little uncomfortable. Read on:- https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-it-will-take-for-us-to-trust-ai?gig_events=soc… Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Feedback on the 2016 ICT POLICY - REMINDER No. 4
by Ali Hussein 07 Dec '16

07 Dec '16

Bwana PS Kyalo The above refers. Could you kindly update us on the way forward regarding the 2016 ICT Policy? We would like to know how the community can help further and when the Policy will be become a 'live' document so we can be able to delve into it and extract the gems that lie therein. We would also like to know how the multi-stakeholder engagement benefited the development of the Policy, what was added, removed and the criteria used to do so. Of course we are also keen to see the final document. Thank you and looking forward to your response. Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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Fw: [bestbits] IGF2016: Technological solutions for countering gender based harrasment
by WANGARI KABIRU 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

Pray you are well. Your ideas are welcome to engage Sadaf Khan (copied) and team from the Kenyan perspective. How might the online be a safer, equitable space for women? Women online (and child safety) have formed key discussions in the overall Internet Governance discussions. “online abuse and gender based violence can, among other things, limit women’s ability to take advantage of the opportunities that ICTs provide for the full realisation of women's human rights, act as a barrier to access that can exacerbate the gender digital gap, often violate women’s human rights, and reaffirm and reproduce gender stereotypes”. Thus, countering online abuse and gender-based violence is essential for both inclusivity and sustainability. With the Kenyan elections 2017 around the corner, women aspirants online is one area where we experience the lifting of physical abuse into the online space with no recourse (or just brushed off). I recall Fadzai Madzingira of Facebook mentions that this is an area of FB focus. Fadzai may also kindly add to the discussion shedding light on what we expect to see (or is happening) specifically for "protection" of women aspirants online (and female voters) or safeguarding their online rights and equity or good practices elsewhere. With thanks! Be blessed. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Tuesday, 6 December 2016, 23:22, Sadaf Khan <sadaf.baig03(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear all, We are hosting a design thinking workshop on finding technological solutions to counter gender based harrasment online. The session is scheduled tomorrow (8-12-16) at 12:00pm in Workshop Room 16. People interested in brainstorming on technology based solutions are invited to join. Details of the session below:Countering gender based abuse online has been one of the key challenges that hinder optimal use of the Internet and other digital technologies. In the report of best practice forum on online abuse and gender based violence against women found that “abuse and gender-based violence against women, whether perpetrated online or offline, is difficult to address because of the attitudes, stereotypes and beliefs that underpin the issue. In an online context, such efforts are further complicated because responses need to be implemented within the global context of the Internet and with the cooperation of a multitude of stakeholders”. As the BFP’s report highlights the abuse against women remains disproportionate and technology at times becomes a tool, being used to commit, abet or aggravate different forms of violence against women.As noted in BFP on Countering Abuse report, “online abuse and gender based violence can, among other things, limit women’s ability to take advantage of the opportunities that ICTs provide for the full realisation of women's human rights, act as a barrier to access that can exacerbate the gender digital gap, often violate women’s human rights, and reaffirm and reproduce gender stereotypes”. Thus, countering online abuse and gender-based violence is essential for both inclusivity and sustainability. Enabling women to participate equally online would help create an environment which allows for the optimal use of the Internet and also help women access equal opportunities for growth and development in today’s digital, networked society.The session takes the design thinking approach to understand, analyse and find solutions for gender based abuse and harrasment online. Regards,Sadaf KhanDirector ProgramsMedia Matters for Democracy ____________________________________________________________

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A "light" hearted look at how ICT permeates all sectors
by Mildred Achoch 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

"Surgeon used a 'Mulika Mwizi" for a caesarean section" http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/10/10/surgeon-used-a-mulika-mwizi-for-a… Regards, Mildred Achoch. Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Kenya BlockChain Workshops
by Ali Hussein 06 Dec '16

06 Dec '16

Listers The above refers. The COALA <http://coala.global/> organisation in partnership with KICTANet and other organisations are planning a series of workshops over several days to sensitive stakeholders on the disruptive technology that is BlockChain. The BlockChain Workshops investigate the upcoming challenges and opportunities provided by blockchain technologies, and their impact on the current social, economic and political order. Conference details and registration are available here <http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/>. We've created a special 30% discount code for KICTAnet members (discount code "KICTANET16"). Admission includes breakfast, morning/afternoon refreshments, and lunch each day. We will also hold a closing cocktail reception immediately following the end of the conference on Friday. This is a great opportunity to mix it up with a global and local audience on BlockChain Technology. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.

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Fwd: [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Local Hosts for 2017 AFRINIC Training Workshops is Open
by Mwendwa Kivuva 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

FYI [Version française ci-dessous] Dear Colleagues, In 2016, with the support of various stakeholders in the community, we were able to train 638 engineers and managers during eighteen (18) training workshops held in sixteen (16) different countries. These trainings covered the knowledge and skills of Internet Number Resources Management (INRM) and IPv6 planning and deployment. We are currently searching for partners/Local Hosts to collaborate with us for the 2017 Training Workshop series. If you are interested in hosting an AFRINIC Training workshop, please go through the hosting details, benefits and requirements here: http://learn.afrinic.net/en/events/request-training#details To submit your proposal please fill the form found here: http://learn.afrinic.net/trp1/node/47 The deadline for proposal submission is 31 January 2017 at 23 59 GMT. - Publication of selected countries: 10 February 2017 - Publication of 2017 workshops calendar: 28 February 2017 Regards, The AFRINIC Training Unit (Follow us on Twitter: @AFRINICTraining) ----------------------------------------------- Chers Collègues, En 2016, grâce à la collaboration de nombreux partenaires, nous avons été capables de former 638 ingénieurs et décideurs de seize (16) pays africains, à travers dix huit (18) sessions de formations sur Ia gestion des ressources Internet (INRM) et le protocole Internet version 6 (IPv6). Pour l'année 2017, nous lançons donc l’appel à collaborer pour les sessions de formations d’AFRINIC 2017. Si vous souhaitez accueillir une session de formation AFRINIC, nous vous invitons à lire les détails d'hôtes, les avantages et critères de sélection ici : http://learn.afrinic.net/en/events/request-training#details Pour soumettre votre proposition veuillez remplir la fiche à l’adresse suivante : http://learn.afrinic.net/trp1/node/47 La date limite de soumission de proposition est le 31 janvier 2017, 23 59 GMT - La liste des pays sélectionnés sera publiée le 10 février 2017 - Le calendrier pour les formations sera publié le 28 février 2017 Cordialement, L'Equipe de Formation d'AFRINIC (Suivez nous sur Twitter: @AFRINICTraining) _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Fwd: Short-Term Research Associate Vacancy on Digital Economies and Development: University of Manchester
by Alice Munyua 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

This might be if interest. Best Alice Begin forwarded message: > From: Richard Heeks <richard.heeks(a)manchester.ac.uk> > Date: 5 December 2016 at 17:51:31 EAT > To: Richard Heeks <richard.heeks(a)manchester.ac.uk> > Subject: Short-Term Research Associate Vacancy on Digital Economies and Development: University of Manchester > > **Please forward to relevant potential applicants** > > We are currently advertising a short-term Research Associate post relating to digital economies and developing countries, with an application deadline of 2 Jan 2017: https://www.jobs.manchester.ac.uk/displayjob.aspx?jobid=12606 > > The post involves support for a research network including research dissemination, organisation of workshops and writing research reviews, plus opportunities to undertake pilot research and/or write up existing research, and prepare bids for future research. > > Salary in the range £31,076 to £38,183 per annum. > > We welcome applications from those who meet the essential person specification criteria, and who would like to join our Centre for Development Informatics research team for this exciting new initiative. > > Richard Heeks, Director, Centre for Development Informatics, Global Development Institute, University of Manchester, UK > > >

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Re: [kictanet] Gambia Shuts Down the Internet
by Mose Karanja 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

With all due respect to declarations and statements, I think non-binding norms and principles are very limited in preventing technical decisions in domestic places. Much more needs to be done on the technical front to make Internet shutdowns as expensive as possible to governments. If a significant number of people are able to circumvent a partial shutdown, governments would reconsider their decisions since they lose economically with no political ends attained - in this case preventing people to assemble and organize online. Declarations help immensely to shape the long term debate but I don’t ever remember any government that failed to act on a shutdown directive because International law says so. --- Moses. > On 5 Dec 2016, at 06:38, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gambia Shuts Down the Internet (Joash Moitui) > > From: Joash Moitui <joash.moitui(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gambia Shuts Down the Internet > Date: 5 December 2016 at 06:36:17 EAT > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > Dear all, > > As part of the civil society practicum participants in the Afrisig 2016, our first statement called for a complete denunciation of the internet shutdowns. But as we progressed on the final statement, we realized that hardline positions taken by every multi-stakeholder groups only meant that discussions couldn't proceed further. Concessions had to be made to make this joint statement a reality and this is the situation in actual 'real life' situations and negotiations that involve multi-stakeholder groups, be it in IG, climate change talks and even international trade negotiations. > > Please see attached the civil society 'hardline' statement before concessions were made. > > warm regards, > > > > --- > > Joash Ntenga Moitui > Research Fellow > Centre for Human Rights and Policy Studies > Daphton Court, A2 > Riverside Drive > P O Box 23748 00100 > Nairobi > Office: +254.20.5270577 > Cell: +254.728.688726 > Email: jmoitui(a)chrips.or.ke <mailto:emayiera@chrips.or.ke> > Skype: joash.norman > www.chrips.or.ke <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/e06567813c1704f38943fbc3703d45b891020a34?ur…> > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: > Hi Ali, > > Easy :-). > > It was a consensus document by students learning Internet Governance. And the consensus was reached because participants were made to stay up until 1am (It happens in real life anyway). So some gave up so that they can catch up with their sleep. Just that you know, those who played the role of government and put that clause allowing "some shutdowns" were actually civil society practitioners in real life :) > > Have you ever noticed how people change when they get into government? They literally wear a different cap. Like the reminders being sent on the list requesting some information from government. It's like asking for blood donation from a housefly. > > Regards > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh <http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> > > > > On 5 December 2016 at 05:44, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> wrote: > Mwendwa > > Thanks for sharing this. I'm of the hardline stance. No Internet Shutdowns. Period. Let me share some excerpts:- > > > We also recognize that there are cases when Internet shutdowns are a means to ensuring the wellbeing of citizens, such as during cyber attacks from outside the country, military attacks and terrorist activity. > We recommend that the independent national multistakeholder commissions on Internet Shutdowns be guided by the following: > National security and public order > Transparency & accountability > Freedom of Expression and Access to Information > Necessity & proportionality > > We are just opening the door to a slippery slop of legitimizing such actions. Can you imagine a Government in Africa calling 'Mulit-Stakeholders' together to determine a shutdown? You will just have a bunch of rubber stumpers trooping to 'Government House' to lend their hand. > > We stand a snowball's chance in hell before that happens. Having said that I do appreciate the efforts that have gone into this and commend all the players who were involved in drafting this. If nothing else it will continue to highlight the risks we continue to face. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 <tel:+254%20713%20601113> > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 4 Dec 2016, at 10:00 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: > >> Speaking of declarations Grace Mutung'u, >> >> The African School on Internet Governance (AFRISIG) class of 2016, in their practicum came up with a statement on Internet shutdown. All stakeholder groups, including Government, Civil Society, Academia, Business, and Technical community agreed that the statement was balanced http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/statement-on-an-intentional-internet-shutdo… <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/statement-on-an-intentional-internet-shutdo…> >> >> It took 4 days to produce the statement through wider consultations and consensus building. Probably this is a statement that can be expounded upon. >> >> Regards >> >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> twitter.com/lordmwesh <http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> >> >> >> >> On 3 December 2016 at 21:39, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: >> Poncelet, >> Thank you for sharing. I cannot imagine the effect of a 52 hour complete and deliberate shutdown. We are glad to have you back online. Welcome back! >> I agree with you that we must continue to promote the African Declaration, now more than ever. Incidentally, I have not come across any pronouncements by the African Union on this matter of Internet shutdowns. Have you? >> Regards, >> >> PS: The African Declaration is here: http://africaninternetrights.org/ <http://africaninternetrights.org/> >> >> 2016-12-03 17:24 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>: >> Poncelet >> >> Congratulations to all in The Gambia. And to the incumbent for accepting the defeat even with the shut down he initiated. >> >> One other thing..We can actually calculate the cost of Internet Shutdowns. Last year countries lost $2.4 billion. See link:- >> >> https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.… <https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.…> >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> >> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >> >> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >> Nairobi, Kenya. >> >> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Poncelet Ileleji via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: >> Hi Grace, >> >> It was 52 Hours complete shutdown starting 8"08pm on election eve on the 30th of Nov and it was officially announced on TV that it was going to be down no secret about it,International Lines cut off too later local SMS weas also cut off, we came back online 12:30pm yesterday coincidentally after the incumbent had conceded defeat to the Coalition flag bearer ending 22 years of his rule. >> >> We need to promote more and more the African Declaration of Internet rights so our leaders know it matters in the true sense of the word the economic loss alone, we cant quantify, the joy here in the Gambia its basically the digital natives those born after the outgoing leader came to power 1994 that basically voted him out, >> >> Well enjoy the weekend, have loads to say, but will talk later on this. >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Poncelet >> >> On 2 December 2016 at 01:06, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: >> Listers, >> Internet shutdowns are almost becoming a part of African elections and reports indicate that Gambia has taken this step ahead of elections tomorrow. With an added twist- calls also seem to be blocked. >> >> A few months ago we discussed the Ugandan shutdown where we went at length into the techniques employed, including electricity blackouts. With our own elections round the corner, a few questions: >> >> Is anyone concerned that Kenya may also have a shutdown come elections? >> In the (hopefully hypothetical) case that we had a shutdown, who would effect it? ISPs? MNOs? Kenya Power? >> And who would give the orders? The Government? The Regulator? >> >> Hoping that these are just hypothetical musings. >> >> Grace >> >> -- >> Grace L.N. Mutung'u >> Nairobi Kenya >> Skype: gracebomu >> Twitter: @Bomu >> >> <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu>> >> >> PGP ID : 0x33A3450F >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pileleji%40ymca.gm <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pileleji%40ymca.gm> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> -- >> Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS >> Coordinator >> The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio >> MDI Road Kanifing South >> P. O. Box 421 Banjul >> The Gambia, West Africa >> Tel: (220) 4370240 <tel:(220)%20437-0240> >> Fax:(220) 4390793 <tel:(220)%20439-0793> >> Cell:(220) 9912508 <tel:(220)%20991-2508> >> Skype: pons_utd >> www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm/> >> http://jokkolabs.net/en/ <http://jokkolabs.net/en/> >> www.waigf.org <http://www.waigf.org/> >> www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm/> >> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/> >> http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 <http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753> >> www.diplointernetgovernance.org <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> -- >> Grace L.N. Mutung'u >> Nairobi Kenya >> Skype: gracebomu >> Twitter: @Bomu >> >> <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu>> >> >> PGP ID : 0x33A3450F >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lordmwesh%40gmail.com <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lordmwesh%40gmail.com> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/joash.moitui%40gmail.… <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/joash.moitui%40gmail.…> > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > <Civil Society Statement on Internet Shutdown.docx> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet www.moseskaranja.com

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Re: [kictanet] Gambia Shuts Down the Internet
by Ali Hussein 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

Poncelet Congratulations to all in The Gambia. And to the incumbent for accepting the defeat even with the shut down he initiated. One other thing..We can actually calculate the cost of Internet Shutdowns. Last year countries lost $2.4 billion. See link:- https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.… *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Poncelet Ileleji via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hi Grace, > > It was 52 Hours complete shutdown starting 8"08pm on election eve on the > 30th of Nov and it was officially announced on TV that it was going to be > down no secret about it,International Lines cut off too later local SMS > weas also cut off, we came back online 12:30pm yesterday coincidentally > after the incumbent had conceded defeat to the Coalition flag bearer ending > 22 years of his rule. > > We need to promote more and more the African Declaration of Internet > rights so our leaders know it matters in the true sense of the word the > economic loss alone, we cant quantify, the joy here in the Gambia its > basically the digital natives those born after the outgoing leader came to > power 1994 that basically voted him out, > > Well enjoy the weekend, have loads to say, but will talk later on this. > > Kind Regards > > Poncelet > > On 2 December 2016 at 01:06, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Listers, >> Internet shutdowns are almost becoming a part of African elections and >> reports indicate that Gambia has taken this step ahead of elections >> tomorrow. With an added twist- calls also seem to be blocked. >> >> A few months ago we discussed the Ugandan shutdown where we went at >> length into the techniques employed, including electricity blackouts. With >> our own elections round the corner, a few questions: >> >> Is anyone concerned that Kenya may also have a shutdown come elections? >> In the (hopefully hypothetical) case that we had a shutdown, who would >> effect it? ISPs? MNOs? Kenya Power? >> And who would give the orders? The Government? The Regulator? >> >> Hoping that these are just hypothetical musings. >> >> Grace >> >> -- >> Grace L.N. Mutung'u >> Nairobi Kenya >> Skype: gracebomu >> Twitter: @Bomu >> >> <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu> >> >> PGP ID : 0x33A3450F >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/pileleji%40ymca.gm >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS > Coordinator > The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio > MDI Road Kanifing South > P. O. Box 421 Banjul > The Gambia, West Africa > Tel: (220) 4370240 > Fax:(220) 4390793 > Cell:(220) 9912508 > Skype: pons_utd > > > > > > > *www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm>http://jokkolabs.net/en/ > <http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org > <http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org > <http://www.npoc.org>http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 > <http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753>*www.diplointernetgovernance.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Fw: [governance] 3 Books to be Presented at IGF
by WANGARI KABIRU 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

Pray you are well! This is the manual we need to explore on our community networks!Keen to see the application in our local context. <<<Community Connectivity. Building the Internet from Scratch. The book explores alternative models to expand connectivity in a sustainable fashion. The first part focus on community networks' governance while the second one analyses a series of case studies. Together with the Declaration on Community Connectivity, the book is the annual outcome of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity.>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/3737… Blessed day. Regards/Wangari PreambleOver four billion people may remain unconnected to the Internet, including around a billionwho do not have access to basic telephony services. Most people in rural and economically disadvantaged areas are unlikely to realise the benefits of connectivity in the near term. Rural communities and slums dwellers represent almost 60% of the worldwide population and, to date, traditional Internet access models have failed to provide coverage to such populations. While Internet access has improved in several countries, concerns about vertical integration,breach of privacy and net neutrality have become increasingly concrete. Policy and regulation have been adopted to avoid abuses but regulatory environments may be cumbersome and ineffective in fostering connectivity.To reverse these trends and reclaim the role of the commons in networks, it is necessary to create appropriate frameworks that empower communities and local entrepreneurs to solve their own connectivity challenges, thus creating new opportunities in a sustainable fashion. Bottom-up strategies that embrace non-discriminatory treatment of Internet traffic and diversity in the first square mile can truly empower individuals and communities, allowing everyone to play an active role in making connectivity affordable and easily accessible. --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Friday, 2 December 2016, 20:53, "LB(a)lucabelli.net" <LB(a)lucabelli.net> wrote: And here is the content of the book on Net Neutrality that was missing in the previous email (apologies :) #yiv6974423755 #yiv6974423755wmQuoteWrapper P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Dear all, (apologies for crossposting) The UN Internet Governance Forum is starting next week and CTS/FGV will be promoting 3 books that might be of your interest: - Terms of Service and Human Rights. The book has been developed in partnership with the Council of Europe. It analyses the compatibility of the terms of service of 50 of the most popular online platforms with international human rights standards. It also includes the Recommendations on Terms of Service and Human Rights, one of the IGF 2015 outcomes, developed by the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility, last year. - Net Neutrality Reloaded. Zero Rating, Specialised Services, Ad Bloking and Traffic Management. The book explores the most recent net neutrality trands. 7 out of 10 chapters are dedicated to the various aspects of zero rating practices, a very prominent issue, particularly in developing counties. The book is the annual outcome of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Net Neutrality. - Community Connectivity. Building the Internet from Scratch. The book explores alternative models to expand connectivity in a sustainable fashion. The first part focus on community networks' governance while the second one analyses a series of case studies. Together with the Declaration on Community Connectivity, the book is the annual outcome of the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity. Below, you can find the book contents. Free hard copies of the books will be distributed at the IGF. Here is CTS/FGV schedule, should you be interested in joining us and have your copy of the books. The Open Access versions will be released right after the IGF, under Creative Commons Licenses. I would like to thank all those who participated in the development of the books (notably those who are in this mailing list) for their great contributions. Please do not hesitate to circulate this email to any interested person. Best regards, Luca -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luca Belli, PhD Senior Researcher, Center for Technology & Society, FGV Rio de Janeiro Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 Head of Internet Governance @ FGV internet-governance.fgv.br----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t

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Gambia Shuts Down the Internet
by Grace Mutung'u 05 Dec '16

05 Dec '16

Listers, Internet shutdowns are almost becoming a part of African elections and reports indicate that Gambia has taken this step ahead of elections tomorrow. With an added twist- calls also seem to be blocked. A few months ago we discussed the Ugandan shutdown where we went at length into the techniques employed, including electricity blackouts. With our own elections round the corner, a few questions: Is anyone concerned that Kenya may also have a shutdown come elections? In the (hopefully hypothetical) case that we had a shutdown, who would effect it? ISPs? MNOs? Kenya Power? And who would give the orders? The Government? The Regulator? Hoping that these are just hypothetical musings. Grace -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu> PGP ID : 0x33A3450F

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Fwd: [Internet Policy] Diplo/GIP @ IGF 2016
by Barrack Otieno 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 14:50:24 +0100 Subject: [Internet Policy] Diplo/GIP @ IGF 2016 To: "internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org" <internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org> Dear colleagues, Please find below the key activities of DiploFoundation and the Geneva Internet Platform at the IGF 2016. They include a just-in-time reporting from IGF sessions, an activity supported by ICANN and the Internet Society. Best wishes and safe travels. Marilia Is this email not displaying correctly? View this email in your browser <http://us5.campaign-archive1.com/?u=89e7299f9fe54eed66d45cf3d&id=fda063e1c6…> *DiploFoundation and Geneva Internet Platform at 11th Internet Governance Forum in Mexico* Dear Colleagues, DiploFoundation and the Geneva Internet Platform will be actively engaged <http://diplomacy.us5.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=89e7299f9fe54eed66d45cf…> at the 11th Internet Governance Forum <http://diplomacy.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=89e7299f9fe54eed66d45cf3…>, in Mexico and online. 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Fwd: [Internet Policy] Civil society opposes bringing TPP clauses into alternative regional agreement
by Barrack Otieno 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

Listers, This might be of interest. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Hill <rhill(a)hill-a.ch> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 19:20:26 +0100 Subject: [Internet Policy] Civil society opposes bringing TPP clauses into alternative regional agreement To: internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org A large number of civil society organizations oppose attempts to inject clauses from TPP (which is dead) into an alternative regional trade agreement, see: http://www.ip-watch.org/2016/11/30/hundreds-civil-society-groups-urge-rcep-n egotiators-reject-imported-tpp-clauses/ Best, Richard _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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cyber security bill withdrawn
by Watila Alex 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

The Cyber Security and Protection Bill 2016 withdrawn by Senate committee https://t.co/eVM8ATcSBE https://t.co/0b0m0KWW4X https://twitter.com/iFreeKE/status/804334290716725248 Share this post with more networks: http://ow.ly/GF3g100r5ri Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Ali Hussein 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Listers All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) professionals will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the industry, ICT Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday. He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for services in the counties. Read on:- http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co.ke/people-daily/277875/ict-authority-weed-qua… Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad

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ICT Authority Proposal to act on Quacks proper and within Legal Mandate
by Paul Korir 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Where may I get a copy of the revised document? Paul > On 2 Dec 2016, at 18:25, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > 5. In the end, only about 40% of the content of the earlier version was > retained in the final version

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority Proposal to act on Quacks proper and within Legal Mandate
by Ali Hussein 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Kamotho For arguments. Say what you are saying is in order why then are you sponsoring an ICT Practitioners' Bill? Are you then not abrogating the role of ICTA? *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Kamotho Njenga via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Fellow Listers, > > The proposal by the ICT Authority to rein on quacks is actually overdue if > ICTA's legal mandate is anything to go by. On the basis of Legal Notice 183 > of 2013 and Legal Notice 198 of 2013, the functions of ICTA are as set out > below: I have listed all and boldly highlighted the ones that are most > significant in light of the current conversation. > > (a) *set and enforce ICT standards & guidelines for human resource, > infrastructure, processes, systems and technology for the public office and > public service* and; > > (b) deploy and manage all ICT staff in the public service; > > (c) *facilitate and regulate the design, implementation and use of ICTs > in the public service;* > > (d) promote ICT literacy and capacity; > > (e) promote e-Government services; > > (f) facilitate optimal electronic, electronic form, electronic record and > equipment use in the public service; promote ICT innovation and enterprise; > > (h) *establish, develop and maintain secure ICT infrastructure and > systems* > > (i) *supervise the design, development and implementation of critical ICT > Projects across the public service.* > > (j) implement and manage the Kenya National Spatial Data Initiative > > As long as the ICT Authority operates within its lawful mandate and adopts > a consultative approach, we owe them some measure of support rather than > castigation. > > Kamotho > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Proposal: an ICT practitioners registry.
by Collins Areba 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Dear all, First, apologies for cross posting. I needed this to go through to both lists (and if you can, share it widely). As a pre emptive attempt to keep rent seekers at bay in the name of regulation, I propose a portal, named "ICT practitioners registry", a free to join, free to leave online registry. It shall be a self regulating Web portal where anyone who considers themselves a practitioner shall fill a Web form (to meet the "registration" bit) and shall be assigned a registration number. We can even have the system generate pdf membership cards for those that wish to have them printed and certificates generated for printing for those that wish to print them. We shall then have a separate list where quacks (not alleged quacks) who have gone through the judicial process and found guilty of being quacks can either be listed separately as quacks, or temporarily or permanently suspended. In doing this we will have left the burden of proof on to the "prosecution" and not the "defence" to prove who is and who is not a ICT professional.

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Re: [kictanet] Regulation of ICT Industry or Practice?
by JImmy Gitonga 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Dear Grace, Thank you for working with my rope analogy and by qualifying that what I was talking about is the “knowledge of machines”. As you can see, we now have two ropes to weave and untangle here. The rope I alluded to, the ‘Knowledge of machines’,starts somewhere in the 19th century with analogue computers, through the silicon revolution, the Mainframe, the Minicomputer, the PC, the mobile phone and the tablet. As for the networks, we have come from wired electrical networks to digital signals of Ethernet, wired as well as wireless communications all combining into an amorphous “Cloud” where everything is defined in software and can be offered as a service. This rope is ever so quickly building on what came before that the “software engineer” has to continuously update his/her skills or else … The rope you are alluding to is where ICT meets established structures, especially in education. The Internet in particular has unlocked learning in such a grand scale that ivy league universities can only sell their brand and the alumni network to attract top minds. A lot of that knowledge is in ICT, both software and hardware. Anyone can now challenge an industry by unleashing ICT on it. Finance especially banking and payments, transportation, hospitality, medical diagnosis and practice, law; all these “industries” are suffering since the scarcity, a lot of it artificial, is being done away with, lowering the cost of doing that particular business. It is interesting that my rope, “practice” is extremely hard if not impossible at the moment to regulate with examination and certification. Cloud computing courses are barely 2 years old at Masters level and they are building on Distributed Systems knowledge. These have yet to trickle down to Undergrad, though I see PaaS, IaaS and SaaS are being introduced at this level. However I stand to be corrected on this. And all these are behind the cutting edge that revolves around passion and self-learning. No one can regulate that. Your rope, “industry” is completely in flux especially as you noted, with the rise of Artificial Intelligence. The innovation is in bringing ICT in most part, to disrupt established modes of business by bringing speed, accuracy and efficiency to bear. And there is iteration on the disruption as the ICT practice itself evolves and is replaced by newer technology. the “home” as well as the “shared economy” are changing lifestyles as we watch, with the collapse of malls begins in the US of A and is bound to spread across the world as online consumerism takes over. Who can regulate that? Whew! With the best regards, *Jimmy Gitonga* On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Grace Mutung'u <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear James, > A few responses inline > > > > There is no contention on the need for hard working, innovative "ICT > practitioners" passionate about their craft. > > > > What is in contention is whether this is the right time to bring in > regulation to the industry, not regulation of the practice. What we don't > have, because the ingredients forming the industry are still changing > rapidly is an ICT profession. Will there ever be an all-round ICT > "professional"? > > > > This is not the premise. There is a whole new world where we do not even > have questions about " the profession ". Because these barriers are being > eliminated everyday by alternative thinking. > > > Looking at human medicine, the human body is not changing, so one can > standardise the medical profession, with known practices and various > specialisations once the basic learning is done. > > > > It that it? > > > > But even old professions are being affected by disruption. Let me give an > example of the law. The protectionism around it is decaying. Because people > have realized that you do not need seven years to "know" the law. The long > study is about prestige, rites etc. You can learn it by yourself and use > it, case in point, Omtatah. > And Kenyans are now questioning these things, what is the intent, who > will benefit most? > And it is the thing about children born in the digital period. They > question tradition and form their own supercultures. > > > We need to accept that ICT is in everything now. And it is entering > mission-critical, life dependant places. And for a doctor who wants to > carry out a remote surgical operation, the ICT professional helping him set > up the equipment on local and remote site better be qualified in something > beyond passion and innovation. Those don’t cut it at that point. > > > > And the important qualifications in your example is knowledge of machines. > Never mind whether someone stepped into a tertiary class and obtained > papers. They could be self taught with a bit of apprenticeship etc > But leave alone ICT, AI is coming.....who will need regulation then... > Man or machine? > > > The Wright brothers had no flying license. The pilots today do. > > > > And today, planes can fly without pilots. > > > I liken it to weaving a rope. At some points all the strands have to > come together and form the rope. Are we looking at the quality of the > strand or the strength of the rope? If it is both, then there are two > different mechanisms at play. > > > > We could be in the era of unweaving the rope. Deconstruction of ideas that > have protected certain quarters in society. At some point strands have to > separate. > Depends on how well woven the rope was. > > Regards, >

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Online participation, 2016 ICT Review - Use the Following details . Please send your remote comments or questions through this link.
by Barrack Otieno 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Topic: Kenya 2016 ICT Year in Review Time: Dec 2, 2016 7:05 PM (GMT+3:00) Nairobi Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://isoc.zoom.us/j/196595872 Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +14086380968,196595872# or +16465588656,196595872# Or Telephone: Dial: +1 408 638 0968 (US Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 (US Toll) Meeting ID: 196 595 872 International numbers available: https://isoc.zoom.us/zoomconference?m=hE1p1MRreEMxIDAhZ0UMYhhefPm9zgZJ Attachments area -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Re: [kictanet] Program for tomorrow's Kenya ICT year in review cocktail - 2nd December 2016 from 6pm to 9pm Remote Participation Details
by Barrack Otieno 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Listers, Below please find the remote participation details Topic: Kenya 2016 ICT Year in Review Time: Dec 2, 2016 7:00 PM (GMT+3:00) Nairobi Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://isoc.zoom.us/j/104139686 Or iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +14086380968,104139686# or +16465588656,104139686# Or Telephone: Dial: +1 408 638 0968 (US Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 (US Toll) Meeting ID: 104 139 686 International numbers available: https://isoc.zoom.us/zoomconference?m=7aPHrrdkLtmo2q6sI0RyI9Ol16nYdBy0 On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Listers > > > Please find attached the program for tomorrow's cocktail. > > > Regards > > Grace > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmai… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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ICT Authority Proposal to act on Quacks proper and within Legal Mandate
by Kamotho Njenga 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Fellow Listers, The proposal by the ICT Authority to rein on quacks is actually overdue if ICTA's legal mandate is anything to go by. On the basis of Legal Notice 183 of 2013 and Legal Notice 198 of 2013, the functions of ICTA are as set out below: I have listed all and boldly highlighted the ones that are most significant in light of the current conversation. (a) *set and enforce ICT standards & guidelines for human resource, infrastructure, processes, systems and technology for the public office and public service* and; (b) deploy and manage all ICT staff in the public service; (c) *facilitate and regulate the design, implementation and use of ICTs in the public service;* (d) promote ICT literacy and capacity; (e) promote e-Government services; (f) facilitate optimal electronic, electronic form, electronic record and equipment use in the public service; promote ICT innovation and enterprise; (h) *establish, develop and maintain secure ICT infrastructure and systems* (i) *supervise the design, development and implementation of critical ICT Projects across the public service.* (j) implement and manage the Kenya National Spatial Data Initiative As long as the ICT Authority operates within its lawful mandate and adopts a consultative approach, we owe them some measure of support rather than castigation. Kamotho

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Paul Korir 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Fellow Listers, (Please read through until the end before reacting.) It is unfortunate that this issue has arisen before the dust from the ICT Practioners Bill has settled. There are a lot of pent up emotions (and rightly so) associated with confronting policy corruption. This has not only affected ICT but other fields (I seem to be the only one angered by some of the sections of the Science, Technology and Innovation Act). It is also unfortunate that that the subject of this thread is misleading or incomplete at best and that the journalist who penned this piece did not take the time to dissect the issues. For example, there is no explicit statement that this applies only to government expenditure and the reference at the end is vague (“…that the government has an interest in.”) Nevertheless, government agencies have a duty to protect the public’s interests in delivering service to the people. In this case, the issue is the use of public funds (not private capital) in procuring government contracts and the ICTA is proposing regulation to this end. Please remember that the mandate of ICTA is to serve the government and not the private sector. “The Authority is tasked with rationalising and streamlining the management of all Government of Kenya ICT functions.” (from http://www.icta.go.ke/ict-authority/ <http://www.icta.go.ke/ict-authority/>). To the best of my understanding (and the functions of the ICTA) the statement by the CEO have no bearing on private procurement and application of ICT to private business. This is not a move to regulate the ICT sector but to secure the procurement of ICT services in government functions. In other words, quacks are those who are stealing public funds by masquerading as ICT professionals. Now, who would be opposed to that? I think paranoia is beginning to get the better of us… Dr. Paul Korir, PhD +44 7780 283 183 Ordnung muß sein > On 2 Dec 2016, at 16:11, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:09:25 +0300 > From: Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer(a)gmail.com> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Cc: Collins Areba <arebacollins(a)gmail.com>, JImmy Gitonga > <jimmygitts(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > Message-ID: > <CAPZHszM0wX=0mx3asX1sP8vq3Dp0sify4yFNCxr0kK_FuqDBFQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Fellows, > > We will be the 1st market in the history of the world to kill innovation by > regulating it. > > According to Wikipedia *Innovation* is defined simply as a "*new idea, > device, or method*". However, innovation is often also viewed as the > *application > of better solutions that meet new requirements, unarticulated needs*, or > existing market needs. This is accomplished through more-effective > products, processes, services, technologies, or business models that are > readily available to markets, governments and society. The term > "innovation" can be defined as something original and more effective and, > as a consequence, new, that "breaks into" the market or society. It is > related to, but not the same as, invention. > > If Innovation is related to invention. Who in the world ever invented > anything under a very strict regulatory framework ?? Isn't it that we > constantly talk about people who invented new things to break the norm? > (including status quo in a society hell bent to set norms and standards to > tell people like Thomas Edisson that he can't do a lightbulb and the Wright > Brothers that they can't fly?) > > Again, And what school ever taught an inventor to invent anything? > > The kid in Maasai Mara who invented a technology to scare away lions (and > got TV airtime just because someone discovered him with a mindset outside > the education system) - did he ever go to school? > > Can we go on giving countless statements on this? > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Thank you Andrew: a true geriatric in this world. (I did my fair share of >> fortran 77 btw) >> >> I think the problem is clear: irregular tendering, leading in quacks being >> awarded tenders for one reason or another at the expense of legitimately >> qualified suppliers. Now, if you ask me, Thats the domain of Public >> Procurements Oversight Authority. >> >> Maybe the said parties should seek representation in the said authority, >> or maybe we should seek a common "ICT practitioners" position or checklist >> for the PPPOA to consider when setting rules. >> >> My 2 cents. >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> My ideal scenario as regards to post secondary school; >>> >>> 1. Enroll for a program like NYS/ Police/ Military for at least 1 year to >>> learn essential life skills. >>> 2. Continue serving or get into the job market for at least 2 years doing >>> some paid internship/apprenticeship (savings scheme for school fees ) >>> 3. Go for Undergraduate studies - Dip/Bachelor (part-time/ distance >>> learning for non-eng. courses) >>> 4. Back to work - start of specialisation for at least 5 years >>> 5. Masters etc. but after a very thorough interviewing/ career review >>> process before being enrolled to any program >>> >>> These certifications are in some ways hurting the industry. But I guess >>> they are a necessary evil as the job market is flooded with people who can >>> get the job done. >>> >>> Perhaps we should have a common framework that acts as a lifetime >>> Continuous Assesment Test (CAT) for every sector of the industry that is >>> publicly and commonly administered by selected panels for every region. >>> Like a LinkedIN where endorsements for skills actually mean something. >>> >>> As for me, the industry I have been trying to break into to start my >>> specialisation (Cyber Security OPs) seems to have a thing for seeing the >>> entire alphabet on your CV :) This quack has thrown in the towel and am >>> back at school (actually started my end of semester exams today). >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> On 2 December 2016 at 14:35, JImmy Gitonga via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Wow Andrew, >>>> >>>> It seems that is everyone's journey here until "recently" when Computer >>>> Science became a course in our universities. I am a "quack" as much as you >>>> are. >>>> >>>> I loved the story and all the best. >>>> >>>> So, Listers, this is my take. The problem is that the government has >>>> allowed tenderpreneurs to flourish in every sector, and the experts in the >>>> government, who ought to supervise, are compromised for various reasons. >>>> >>>> We are just feeling the heat now because we are in the way of the rent >>>> seekers. Look at our mechanical engineering sector and see the chaos caused >>>> by "regulation". >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Jimmy Gitonga >>>> *Web and Motion* >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Andrew Alston) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:10:41 +0000 >>>>> From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> >>>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> <AMSPR03MB534A8D637B9580FA82CDF1AEE8E0(a)AMSPR03MB534.eurprd03 >>>>> .prod.outlook.com> >>>>> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I wade into this debate with a great degree of caution, but at the same >>>>> time I feel it would be amiss not to tell my own story ? and let you judge >>>>> my stance from that. >>>>> >>>>> When I was 12 years old, living in South Africa, I walked door to door >>>>> at every computer shop in the town I lived in, begging for a chance to help >>>>> out in the stores ? I didn?t want money ? I wanted to be near the >>>>> machines. There was a guy, interestingly he shared my first name, and >>>>> decided he?d give me a chance, and so at 12 years old I started showing up >>>>> on Saturdays and installing dos on machines and installing windows 3.1 and >>>>> hanging around their workshop. By the time I was 13, I was putting >>>>> together machines for them. They were even kind enough to give me the >>>>> equivalent of 140 KSH for a Saturday morning. >>>>> >>>>> Somewhere along the way, I got hold of a copy of turbo pascal and >>>>> begged pleaded and borrowed some manuals and taught myself how to program, >>>>> first in pascal, and then in assembler. By the time I was 16, I was then >>>>> faced with a choice. I could stick with high school, finish, leave at the >>>>> same time as everyone else, go to universities, spend years getting a >>>>> degree, and then enter the job market at the same time as all my school >>>>> friends. Or, due to the age of the industry and how new it was where I was >>>>> growing up, I could leave school, get a job, and get a 2 and a half year >>>>> experience head start on everyone I was at school with. I made my choice, >>>>> and in around March, 3 months into grade 10, I clearly remember getting up >>>>> in the middle of science class, and walking out. I never went back. >>>>> >>>>> By the time I left though, I had already organized myself a job, >>>>> relying on the experience I had working in computer stores for the previous >>>>> 3 and a half odd years, and relying on the fact that I could already >>>>> program. So, I got on a bus, at age 16, travelled a thousand kilometres >>>>> down to Cape Town and started my working life. Over the next few years, I >>>>> worked my ass off, earned just enough money to keep me afloat, and >>>>> eventually started my own IT security company, got defrauded, went broke as >>>>> a result, got up, and started again. Eventually ending up working for the >>>>> University of Cape Town in their IT department. While there I started >>>>> moonlighting for TENET (the South African academic network), and eventually >>>>> ended up as their CTO where I was for 6 years. After leaving there and >>>>> doing a whole bunch of contracting (primarily for various universities), I >>>>> took a contract with Liquid which eventually ended up becoming permanent >>>>> and I ended up where I am today, in a senior position building networks >>>>> across the continent. >>>>> >>>>> The point of this story is ? there are individuals out there who have >>>>> chosen a different route ? I am not alone in the path I took, and I am not >>>>> special, I was not born to wealth and honestly I don?t think I could have >>>>> afforded to go to University anyway ? my parents certainly didn?t have the >>>>> money to pay for it, nor was I born with insane brain power, I merely chose >>>>> to find my own path and work hard to reach the heights I have. And in all >>>>> of this ? I fail to see why any system should penalize people such as >>>>> myself, and indirectly penalize the people who I could share my knowledge >>>>> and experience with. I fail to see why a qualification actually matters if >>>>> someone can *prove* they can do the job ? and do it well, with an equal >>>>> amount of passion, drive and skill, however it was acquired. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, this post is written from an intensely personal perspective, >>>>> but I argue that there are many who shared the path I chose to walk, and I >>>>> believe that anything that removes the ability of these people to >>>>> contribute to society and to our industry, is unfair, dangerous and against >>>>> the interests of the industry as a whole. >>>>> >>>>> I know that I am PROUD to work in this industry, it is with pride that >>>>> I stand among my colleagues, both Kenyan and otherwise, both certified and >>>>> non-certified, and I just want the opportunity to continue the work I have >>>>> dedicated the last 21 years of my life to and continue to build this >>>>> industry and be able to contribute. >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston= >>>>> liquidtelecom.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Dorcas Muthoni >>>>> via kictanet >>>>> Sent: 02 December 2016 11:53 >>>>> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> >>>>> Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private >>>>> sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack >>>>> ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff. >>>>> >>>>> In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria >>>>> for all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions >>>>> and universities. >>>>> >>>>> As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core >>>>> fundamentals remain the same. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be >>>>> institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally. >>>>> Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of >>>>> approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent >>>>> companies have diffrent clearance level. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @James, >>>>> >>>>> I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay >>>>> to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have >>>>> passion and be good at what you do. >>>>> >>>>> Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, >>>>> few standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives >>>>> depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. >>>>> >>>>> The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are >>>>> starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it >>>>> demands some yardstick to know who is who. >>>>> >>>>> Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? >>>>> >>>>> Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed >>>>> doctor but no certificate ? >>>>> >>>>> Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, >>>>> hospital, airport and even national security. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Nelson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo wrote: >>>>> Nelson, >>>>> >>>>> "we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name >>>>> of innovation and disruption." >>>>> >>>>> I think what you have quoted there is what drives the profession and >>>>> the industry at large. What you are suggesting is we curb creativity of >>>>> people who seek to curb a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, >>>>> this is not like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have a >>>>> pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry thrives on its dynamic >>>>> nature, which leads to disruption and innovation. >>>>> >>>>> On that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of standards, if we >>>>> look outside .KE, what other country/town has ICT standards? >>>>> >>>>> Am with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from >>>>> profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you use to do so. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with standards, >>>>> ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. the words below can have as >>>>> many meanings as the are ICT professionals >>>>> >>>>> * Cloud Solution >>>>> * Software Architect >>>>> * Software Developer >>>>> * IoT >>>>> * Web APP >>>>> * and many other >>>>> >>>>> we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name >>>>> of innovation and disruption. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My point is, chaos are eminent in the industry. Is it what we want.. >>>>> NO. >>>>> >>>>> Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the >>>>> KICTANET community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense. >>>>> Let's get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement. >>>>> >>>>> I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing >>>>> lists stalls multi-stakeholder participation. >>>>> >>>>> I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is >>>>> meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers. >>>>> With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a >>>>> yardstick for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated >>>>> school. And we went on to work for projects and institutions that went on >>>>> to win Awards in the international arena. >>>>> >>>>> You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory >>>>> is a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field - >>>>> is based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many >>>>> people out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a >>>>> market where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that >>>>> degree - to drive technical jobs. >>>>> >>>>> And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of >>>>> them entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the >>>>> least. Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution. >>>>> We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in >>>>> developing are evolving. Why? Because Technology has changed the education >>>>> field. The education field is not changing technology. Apologies if we >>>>> believe so. >>>>> Just my two cents. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> @Dorcas. >>>>> Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the >>>>> discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the >>>>> protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately >>>>> thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it >>>>> need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake? >>>>> >>>>> I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes >>>>> sense only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left >>>>> without regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which >>>>> ICT component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from >>>>> spiralling out of control? >>>>> >>>>> From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel >>>>> shortchanged about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the >>>>> science" only to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same >>>>> technology. It feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent >>>>> value to those that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict >>>>> professional" title purely on the basis of having done ICT formally. >>>>> >>>>> I stand corrected. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic. >>>>> >>>>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? >>>>> >>>>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, >>>>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer >>>>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and >>>>> engineering graduates. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling >>>>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain >>>>> professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues >>>>> at hand. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of >>>>> extreme tender-prenuership. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark >>>>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. >>>>> >>>>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with >>>>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. >>>>> >>>>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working >>>>> on it. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >>>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >>>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >>>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >>>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >>>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >>>>> Personally I thing further probing is required. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>>>> a model exists? My two cents. >>>>> >>>>> Beryl Aidi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>>> >>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>> >>>>> Alliance Technologies >>>>> www.at.co.ke<http://www.at.co.ke> >>>>> From: Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>>> To: Ngigi Waithaka >>>>> Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>> Cc: Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Exactly! >>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define >>>>> it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action - >>>>> reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision >>>>> for instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall >>>>> might take four months. >>>>> >>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this >>>>> can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively. >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com<m >>>>> ailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are not >>>>> really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>> places. >>>>> >>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>> >>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show you >>>>> a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited, >>>>> shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of >>>>> rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive legislation. >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com<mailto: >>>>> arebacollins(a)gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke<mailto:jam >>>>> es(a)muendo.co.ke>> wrote: >>>>> Collins, >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James Muendo >>>>> >>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>> >>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>> >>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>> >>>>> P.O Box 28016 ? 00200, >>>>> >>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | @MmuendoW:| >>>>> http://about.me/muendo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks that >>>>> professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of departure >>>>> which will show the distinct difference so as to justify regulation. >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: >>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>> >>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry ?Bill? Gates iii, Paul Gardner Allen, >>>>> Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen ?Woz? Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, Robert >>>>> Edward ?Ted? Turner iii >>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>> >>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya. >>>>> >>>>> ______________________ >>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since the term >>>>> ICT started being used. >>>>> >>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>> >>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the role of >>>>> GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>> >>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>> Principal >>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113><tel:+254%20713%20601113> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>> >>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>> >>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>>>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to see >>>>> whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose >>>>> most as they are hands on. >>>>> >>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311><tel:+254%20726%20488311> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs for the >>>>> government, right? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>> >>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>> >>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education - now >>>>> we even have more innovative home schooling and best practice approaches. >>>>> Healthcare etc >>>>> >>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - it is >>>>> the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to borrow >>>>> from. >>>>> >>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks launch ICT >>>>> standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve public >>>>> service must comply. >>>>> ?One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next couple of >>>>> weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT national >>>>> standards and we plan on having them effective from first of January and >>>>> based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,? said the >>>>> CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will be >>>>> blacklisted..." >>>>> >>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape while >>>>> keep its jelly-nature? >>>>> >>>>> Be blessed. >>>>> >>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of >>>>> God on Earth". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>>>> ailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>> >>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>> ... >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> --------------------------- >>>>> This email has been scanned for email related threats and delivered >>>>> safely by Mimecast. >>>>> For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>

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Re: [kictanet] Regulation of ICT Industry or Practice?
by Grace Mutung'u 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Dear James, A few responses inline > > There is no contention on the need for hard working, innovative "ICT practitioners" passionate about their craft. > > What is in contention is whether this is the right time to bring in regulation to the industry, not regulation of the practice. What we don't have, because the ingredients forming the industry are still changing rapidly is an ICT profession. Will there ever be an all-round ICT "professional"? > This is not the premise. There is a whole new world where we do not even have questions about " the profession ". Because these barriers are being eliminated everyday by alternative thinking. > Looking at human medicine, the human body is not changing, so one can standardise the medical profession, with known practices and various specialisations once the basic learning is done. > > It that it? > But even old professions are being affected by disruption. Let me give an example of the law. The protectionism around it is decaying. Because people have realized that you do not need seven years to "know" the law. The long study is about prestige, rites etc. You can learn it by yourself and use it, case in point, Omtatah. And Kenyans are now questioning these things, what is the intent, who will benefit most? And it is the thing about children born in the digital period. They question tradition and form their own supercultures. > We need to accept that ICT is in everything now. And it is entering mission-critical, life dependant places. And for a doctor who wants to carry out a remote surgical operation, the ICT professional helping him set up the equipment on local and remote site better be qualified in something beyond passion and innovation. Those don’t cut it at that point. > And the important qualifications in your example is knowledge of machines. Never mind whether someone stepped into a tertiary class and obtained papers. They could be self taught with a bit of apprenticeship etc But leave alone ICT, AI is coming.....who will need regulation then... Man or machine? > The Wright brothers had no flying license. The pilots today do. > And today, planes can fly without pilots. > I liken it to weaving a rope. At some points all the strands have to come together and form the rope. Are we looking at the quality of the strand or the strength of the rope? If it is both, then there are two different mechanisms at play. > We could be in the era of unweaving the rope. Deconstruction of ideas that have protected certain quarters in society. At some point strands have to separate. Depends on how well woven the rope was. Regards,

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by Eric Mwangi 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

This has surprised me - side note that says KE's data is not available? Regards, Eric Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Dec 2016, at 10:13, JImmy Gitonga via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hmmm, > > There is no contention on the need for hard working, innovative "ICT practitioners" passionate about their craft. > > What is in contention is whether this is the right time to bring in regulation to the industry, not regulation of the practice. What we don't have, because the ingredients forming the industry are still changing rapidly is an ICT profession. Will there ever be an all-round ICT "professional"? > > Looking at human medicine, the human body is not changing, so one can standardise the medical profession, with known practices and various specialisations once the basic learning is done. > > It that it? > > We need to accept that ICT is in everything now. And it is entering mission-critical, life dependant places. And for a doctor who wants to carry out a remote surgical operation, the ICT professional helping him set up the equipment on local and remote site better be qualified in something beyond passion and innovation. Those don’t cut it at that point. > > > The Wright brothers had no flying license. The pilots today do. > > I liken it to weaving a rope. At some points all the strands have to come together and form the rope. Are we looking at the quality of the strand or the strength of the rope? If it is both, then there are two different mechanisms at play. > > We need to separate those. > > > > Jimmy Gitonga > Web and Motion > > > > On 2 Dec 2016, at 11:05 AM, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:03:56 +0300 > > From: Nelson J kwaje <nelson(a)web4all.co.ke> > > To: James Muendo <james(a)muendo.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > > Message-ID: <c3e04afb-f032-61ab-2e5d-f8698218653d(a)web4all.co.ke> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > > @James, > > > > I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to > > be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have > > passion and be good at what you do. > > > > Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few > > standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives > > depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. > > > > The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are > > starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it > > demands some yardstick to know who is who. > > > > Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? > > > > Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed > > doctor but no certificate ? > > > > Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, > > airport and even national security. > > > > Cheers > > > > Nelson > > > > > > > > With the best regards, > > Jimmy Gitonga > > >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:55 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Dorcas Muthoni) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:53:11 +0300 >> From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> >> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >> Message-ID: >> <CACFhaS7+pQ4XqNOtGPB2Td60qxLRMA0FyCpuLthox2PbnEamxg(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private >> sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack >> ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff. >> >> In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria for >> all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions and >> universities. >> >> As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core >> fundamentals remain the same. >> >> On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> > In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be >> > institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally. >> > Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of >> > approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent >> > companies have diffrent clearance level. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> > >> >> @James, >> >> >> >> I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to >> >> be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion >> >> and be good at what you do. >> >> >> >> Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few >> >> standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives depends >> >> on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. >> >> >> >> The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are >> >> starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it >> >> demands some yardstick to know who is who. >> >> >> >> Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? >> >> >> >> Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed >> >> doctor but no certificate ? >> >> >> >> Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, >> >> airport and even national security. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Nelson > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erick.mwangi%40gmail.… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by JImmy Gitonga 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Wow Andrew, It seems that is everyone's journey here until "recently" when Computer Science became a course in our universities. I am a "quack" as much as you are. I loved the story and all the best. So, Listers, this is my take. The problem is that the government has allowed tenderpreneurs to flourish in every sector, and the experts in the government, who ought to supervise, are compromised for various reasons. We are just feeling the heat now because we are in the way of the rent seekers. Look at our mechanical engineering sector and see the chaos caused by "regulation". Regards Jimmy Gitonga *Web and Motion* On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Andrew Alston) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:10:41 +0000 > From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > Message-ID: > <AMSPR03MB534A8D637B9580FA82CDF1AEE8E0@AMSPR03MB534. > eurprd03.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi All, > > I wade into this debate with a great degree of caution, but at the same > time I feel it would be amiss not to tell my own story ? and let you judge > my stance from that. > > When I was 12 years old, living in South Africa, I walked door to door at > every computer shop in the town I lived in, begging for a chance to help > out in the stores ? I didn?t want money ? I wanted to be near the > machines. There was a guy, interestingly he shared my first name, and > decided he?d give me a chance, and so at 12 years old I started showing up > on Saturdays and installing dos on machines and installing windows 3.1 and > hanging around their workshop. By the time I was 13, I was putting > together machines for them. They were even kind enough to give me the > equivalent of 140 KSH for a Saturday morning. > > Somewhere along the way, I got hold of a copy of turbo pascal and begged > pleaded and borrowed some manuals and taught myself how to program, first > in pascal, and then in assembler. By the time I was 16, I was then faced > with a choice. I could stick with high school, finish, leave at the same > time as everyone else, go to universities, spend years getting a degree, > and then enter the job market at the same time as all my school friends. > Or, due to the age of the industry and how new it was where I was growing > up, I could leave school, get a job, and get a 2 and a half year experience > head start on everyone I was at school with. I made my choice, and in > around March, 3 months into grade 10, I clearly remember getting up in the > middle of science class, and walking out. I never went back. > > By the time I left though, I had already organized myself a job, relying > on the experience I had working in computer stores for the previous 3 and a > half odd years, and relying on the fact that I could already program. So, > I got on a bus, at age 16, travelled a thousand kilometres down to Cape > Town and started my working life. Over the next few years, I worked my ass > off, earned just enough money to keep me afloat, and eventually started my > own IT security company, got defrauded, went broke as a result, got up, and > started again. Eventually ending up working for the University of Cape > Town in their IT department. While there I started moonlighting for TENET > (the South African academic network), and eventually ended up as their CTO > where I was for 6 years. After leaving there and doing a whole bunch of > contracting (primarily for various universities), I took a contract with > Liquid which eventually ended up becoming permanent and I ended up where I > am today, in a senior position building networks across the continent. > > The point of this story is ? there are individuals out there who have > chosen a different route ? I am not alone in the path I took, and I am not > special, I was not born to wealth and honestly I don?t think I could have > afforded to go to University anyway ? my parents certainly didn?t have the > money to pay for it, nor was I born with insane brain power, I merely chose > to find my own path and work hard to reach the heights I have. And in all > of this ? I fail to see why any system should penalize people such as > myself, and indirectly penalize the people who I could share my knowledge > and experience with. I fail to see why a qualification actually matters if > someone can *prove* they can do the job ? and do it well, with an equal > amount of passion, drive and skill, however it was acquired. > > Obviously, this post is written from an intensely personal perspective, > but I argue that there are many who shared the path I chose to walk, and I > believe that anything that removes the ability of these people to > contribute to society and to our industry, is unfair, dangerous and against > the interests of the industry as a whole. > > I know that I am PROUD to work in this industry, it is with pride that I > stand among my colleagues, both Kenyan and otherwise, both certified and > non-certified, and I just want the opportunity to continue the work I have > dedicated the last 21 years of my life to and continue to build this > industry and be able to contribute. > > Just my thoughts > > Andrew > > > From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom. > com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > Sent: 02 December 2016 11:53 > To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> > Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > > > Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private > sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack > ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff. > > In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria for > all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions and > universities. > > As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core > fundamentals remain the same. > > On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be > institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally. > Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of > approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent > companies have diffrent clearance level. > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > @James, > > I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to > be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion > and be good at what you do. > > Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few > standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives depends > on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. > > The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are > starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it > demands some yardstick to know who is who. > > Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? > > Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed > doctor but no certificate ? > > Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, > airport and even national security. > > Cheers > > Nelson > > > On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo wrote: > Nelson, > > "we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of > innovation and disruption." > > I think what you have quoted there is what drives the profession and the > industry at large. What you are suggesting is we curb creativity of people > who seek to curb a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, this is > not like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have a pre-set > set of standards. If anything, the industry thrives on its dynamic nature, > which leads to disruption and innovation. > > On that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of standards, if we > look outside .KE, what other country/town has ICT standards? > > Am with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from profession. > The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you use to do so. > > Regards, > > On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with standards, > ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. the words below can have as > many meanings as the are ICT professionals > > * Cloud Solution > * Software Architect > * Software Developer > * IoT > * Web APP > * and many other > > we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of > innovation and disruption. > > > On 02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: > > My point is, chaos are eminent in the industry. Is it what we want.. NO. > > Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the KICTANET > community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense. Let's > get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement. > > I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing lists > stalls multi-stakeholder participation. > > I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere. > > On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is > meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers. > With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a yardstick > for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated school. And we > went on to work for projects and institutions that went on to win Awards in > the international arena. > > You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory is > a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field - is > based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many people > out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a market > where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that degree - > to drive technical jobs. > > And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of them > entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the least. > Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution. > We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in > developing are evolving. Why? Because Technology has changed the education > field. The education field is not changing technology. Apologies if we > believe so. > Just my two cents. > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > @Dorcas. > Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the > discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the > protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately > thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it > need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake? > > I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes sense > only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left without > regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which ICT > component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from > spiralling out of control? > > From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel shortchanged > about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the science" only > to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same technology. It > feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent value to those > that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict professional" title purely > on the basis of having done ICT formally. > > I stand corrected. > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > Why are so many people insecure about this topic. > > Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? > > Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, > most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer > science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and > engineering graduates. > > I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling entity > coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain > professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues > at hand. > > Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of > extreme tender-prenuership. > > Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark Mark > Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. > > If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with > money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. > > Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working on > it. > > Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. > > On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. > 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). > 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . > This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but > incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, > unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. > Personally I thing further probing is required. > > On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > Hi All, > Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in the > world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated to be > used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully here > being key, which means no victimization of those without any certifications > that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and happen to > stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; and by no > means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such a model > exists? My two cents. > > Beryl Aidi > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Alliance Technologies > www.at.co.ke<http://www.at.co.ke> > From: Collins Areba via kictanet > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM > To: Ngigi Waithaka > Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Cc: Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > > > > Exactly! > ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define it > as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action - reaction > - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision for > instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall > might take four months. > > I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this can > be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively. > > On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com<mailto: > Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com>> wrote: > > The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are not > really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high > places. > > If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said > masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. > > Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show you a > liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... > > On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited, > shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of > rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government > servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the > president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive legislation. > > On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com<mailto: > arebacollins(a)gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. > > On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke<mailto:jam > es(a)muendo.co.ke>> wrote: > Collins, > > +1 > > > -- > James Muendo > > Chief Executive Officer (CEO), > > Logic Craft Ltd, > > Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road > > P.O Box 28016 ? 00200, > > Nairobi,KE > > > > M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | @MmuendoW:| > http://about.me/muendo > > > > Too Brief? Here's Why > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks that > professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of departure > which will show the distinct difference so as to justify regulation. > > On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: > College drop outs who rule the world. > > Michael Saul Dell, William Henry ?Bill? Gates iii, Paul Gardner Allen, > Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen ?Woz? Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, Robert > Edward ?Ted? Turner iii > http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ > > I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya. > > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh<http://twitter.com/lordmwesh> > > > > On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > The real important question has not been answered. Not since the term ICT > started being used. > > WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? > > And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the role of > GateKeeper and RentSeeker? > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113<tel:+254%20713%20601113> > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to see > whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose > most as they are hands on. > > Athar Ahmad Bhatti > +254726488311<tel:+254%20726%20488311> > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs for the > government, right? > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > Blessed Thursday! > > Might the sector be getting its shape? > > Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education - now we > even have more innovative home schooling and best practice approaches. > Healthcare etc > > Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - it is > the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to borrow > from. > > "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks launch ICT > standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve public > service must comply. > ?One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next couple of > weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT national > standards and we plan on having them effective from first of January and > based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,? said the > CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will be > blacklisted..." > > How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape while keep > its jelly-nature? > > Be blessed. > > Regards/Wangari > > --- > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on > Earth". > > > On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> > wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 115, Issue 55
by JImmy Gitonga 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Hmmm, There is no contention on the need for hard working, innovative "ICT practitioners" passionate about their craft. What is in contention is whether this is the right time to bring in regulation to the industry, not regulation of the practice. What we don't have, because the ingredients forming the industry are still changing rapidly is an ICT profession. Will there ever be an all-round ICT "professional"? Looking at human medicine, the human body is not changing, so one can standardise the medical profession, with known practices and various specialisations once the basic learning is done. It that it? We need to accept that ICT is in everything now. And it is entering mission-critical, life dependant places. And for a doctor who wants to carry out a remote surgical operation, the ICT professional helping him set up the equipment on local and remote site better be qualified in something beyond passion and innovation. Those don’t cut it at that point. The Wright brothers had no flying license. The pilots today do. I liken it to weaving a rope. At some points all the strands have to come together and form the rope. Are we looking at the quality of the strand or the strength of the rope? If it is both, then there are two different mechanisms at play. We need to separate those. Jimmy Gitonga *Web and Motion* On 2 Dec 2016, at 11:05 AM, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:03:56 +0300 From: Nelson J kwaje <nelson(a)web4all.co.ke> To: James Muendo <james(a)muendo.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks Message-ID: <c3e04afb-f032-61ab-2e5d-f8698218653d(a)web4all.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" @James, I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion and be good at what you do. Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it demands some yardstick to know who is who. Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed doctor but no certificate ? Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, airport and even national security. Cheers Nelson With the best regards, *Jimmy Gitonga* On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:55 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Dorcas Muthoni) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:53:11 +0300 > From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks > Message-ID: > <CACFhaS7+pQ4XqNOtGPB2Td60qxLRMA0FyCpuLt > hox2PbnEamxg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private > sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack > ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff. > > In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria for > all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions and > universities. > > As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core > fundamentals remain the same. > > On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be > > institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally. > > Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of > > approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, > diffrent > > companies have diffrent clearance level. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > >> @James, > >> > >> I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to > >> be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have > passion > >> and be good at what you do. > >> > >> Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, > few > >> standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives > depends > >> on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. > >> > >> The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are > >> starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it > >> demands some yardstick to know who is who. > >> > >> Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? > >> > >> Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed > >> doctor but no certificate ? > >> > >> Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, > >> airport and even national security. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Nelson >

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Peter Osotsi 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

If one is seeking a job we have enough international standards and certifications that guide ICT. I can own a medical institution and I'm an ICT graduate. Should KMPDB lock me out from their industry because I'm not a medical practitioner? It will not work trust me folks. It will not work. I don't fear laws, I fear people that want to use the laws to steal from me On Dec 2, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Bwana Nelson, Can I say its worth noting that you may be on a Windows or Mac machine sending this email. Either way. The technology you are using right now was developed by college drop outs. I would advise you rid that then. Also. These lax regulations on innovation led to some of the revolutionary technology which you - I am afraid are benefiting from massively. Youd not be able to even reply to this email if you practiced what you preach right now. From a beneficiaries perspective. #JustSaying On 2 Dec 2016 11:07 a.m., "Nelson J kwaje via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @James, I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion and be good at what you do. Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it demands some yardstick to know who is who. Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed doctor but no certificate ? Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, airport and even national security. Cheers Nelson On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo wrote: Nelson, "we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of innovation and disruption." I think what you have quoted there is what drives the profession and the industry at large. What you are suggesting is we curb creativity of people who seek to curb a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, this is not like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have a pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry thrives on its dynamic nature, which leads to disruption and innovation. On that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of standards, if we look outside .KE, what other country/town has ICT standards? Am with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you use to do so. Regards, On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with standards, > ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. the words below can have as > many meanings as the are ICT professionals > > - Cloud Solution > - Software Architect > - Software Developer > - IoT > - Web APP > - and many other > > we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of > innovation and disruption. > > > On 02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: > > My point is, chaos are eminent in the industry. Is it what we want.. NO. > > Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the KICTANET > community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense. Let's > get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement. > > I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing lists > stalls multi-stakeholder participation. > > I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere. > > On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is >> meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers. >> >> With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a yardstick >> for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated school. And we >> went on to work for projects and institutions that went on to win Awards in >> the international arena. >> >> You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory >> is a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field - >> is based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many >> people out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a >> market where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that >> degree - to drive technical jobs. >> >> And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of them >> entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the least. >> Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution. >> >> We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in >> developing are evolving. Why? *Because Technology has changed the >> education field. The education field is not changing technology.* >> Apologies if we believe so. >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> @Dorcas. >>> Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the >>> discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the >>> protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately >>> thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it >>> need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake? >>> >>> I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes >>> sense only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left >>> without regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which >>> ICT component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from >>> spiralling out of control? >>> >>> From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel shortchanged >>> about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the science" only >>> to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same technology. It >>> feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent value to those >>> that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict professional" title purely >>> on the basis of having done ICT formally. >>> >>> I stand corrected. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic. >>>> >>>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? >>>> >>>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, >>>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer >>>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and >>>> engineering graduates. >>>> >>>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling >>>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain >>>> professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues >>>> at hand. >>>> >>>> Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of >>>> extreme tender-prenuership. >>>> >>>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark >>>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. >>>> >>>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with >>>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. >>>> >>>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working >>>> on it. >>>> >>>> Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >>>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >>>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >>>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >>>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >>>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >>>>> Personally I thing further probing is required. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>>>>> a model exists? My two cents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beryl Aidi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alliance Technologies >>>>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>>>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>>>>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly! >>>>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to >>>>>>> define it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action >>>>>>> - reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A >>>>>>> decision for instance in some of these association, say which colour to >>>>>>> paint a wall might take four months. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If >>>>>>> this can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions >>>>>>> collectively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are >>>>>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>>>>> places. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show >>>>>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a >>>>>>>>> limited, shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a >>>>>>>>> set of rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive >>>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> James Muendo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | >>>>>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via >>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks >>>>>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of >>>>>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify >>>>>>>>>>>> regulation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gardner Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since >>>>>>>>>>>>> the term ICT started being used. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the >>>>>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ >>>>>>>>>>>>> to see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will >>>>>>>>>>>>> lose most as they are hands on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract >>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs for the government, right? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to >>>>>>>>>>>>> education - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best >>>>>>>>>>>>> practice approaches. Healthcare etc >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most >>>>>>>>>>>>> instances - it is the industry associations working with the governments. >>>>>>>>>>>>> An angle to borrow from. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks >>>>>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve >>>>>>>>>>>>> public service must comply. >>>>>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next >>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT >>>>>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of >>>>>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” >>>>>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will >>>>>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape >>>>>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We >>>>>>>>>>>>> are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom of God on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Ahmed Mohamed Maawy 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Bwana Nelson, Can I say its worth noting that you may be on a Windows or Mac machine sending this email. Either way. The technology you are using right now was developed by college drop outs. I would advise you rid that then. Also. These lax regulations on innovation led to some of the revolutionary technology which you - I am afraid are benefiting from massively. Youd not be able to even reply to this email if you practiced what you preach right now. From a beneficiaries perspective. #JustSaying On 2 Dec 2016 11:07 a.m., "Nelson J kwaje via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @James, I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion and be good at what you do. Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic. The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it demands some yardstick to know who is who. Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ? Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed doctor but no certificate ? Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank, hospital, airport and even national security. Cheers Nelson On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo wrote: Nelson, "we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of innovation and disruption." I think what you have quoted there is what drives the profession and the industry at large. What you are suggesting is we curb creativity of people who seek to curb a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, this is not like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have a pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry thrives on its dynamic nature, which leads to disruption and innovation. On that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of standards, if we look outside .KE, what other country/town has ICT standards? Am with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you use to do so. Regards, On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with standards, > ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. the words below can have as > many meanings as the are ICT professionals > > - Cloud Solution > - Software Architect > - Software Developer > - IoT > - Web APP > - and many other > > we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name of > innovation and disruption. > > > On 02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: > > My point is, chaos are eminent in the industry. Is it what we want.. NO. > > Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the KICTANET > community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense. Let's > get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement. > > I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing lists > stalls multi-stakeholder participation. > > I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere. > > On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is >> meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers. >> >> With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a yardstick >> for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated school. And we >> went on to work for projects and institutions that went on to win Awards in >> the international arena. >> >> You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory >> is a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field - >> is based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many >> people out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a >> market where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that >> degree - to drive technical jobs. >> >> And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of them >> entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the least. >> Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution. >> >> We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in >> developing are evolving. Why? *Because Technology has changed the >> education field. The education field is not changing technology.* >> Apologies if we believe so. >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> @Dorcas. >>> Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the >>> discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the >>> protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately >>> thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it >>> need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake? >>> >>> I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes >>> sense only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left >>> without regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which >>> ICT component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from >>> spiralling out of control? >>> >>> From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel shortchanged >>> about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the science" only >>> to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same technology. It >>> feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent value to those >>> that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict professional" title purely >>> on the basis of having done ICT formally. >>> >>> I stand corrected. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic. >>>> >>>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? >>>> >>>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, >>>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer >>>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and >>>> engineering graduates. >>>> >>>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling >>>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain >>>> professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues >>>> at hand. >>>> >>>> Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of >>>> extreme tender-prenuership. >>>> >>>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark >>>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. >>>> >>>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with >>>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. >>>> >>>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working >>>> on it. >>>> >>>> Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >>>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >>>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >>>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >>>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >>>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >>>>> Personally I thing further probing is required. >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>>>>> a model exists? My two cents. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beryl Aidi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alliance Technologies >>>>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>>>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>>>>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly! >>>>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to >>>>>>> define it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action >>>>>>> - reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A >>>>>>> decision for instance in some of these association, say which colour to >>>>>>> paint a wall might take four months. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If >>>>>>> this can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions >>>>>>> collectively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are >>>>>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>>>>> places. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show >>>>>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a >>>>>>>>> limited, shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a >>>>>>>>> set of rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive >>>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> James Muendo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | >>>>>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via >>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks >>>>>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of >>>>>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify >>>>>>>>>>>> regulation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gardner Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since >>>>>>>>>>>>> the term ICT started being used. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the >>>>>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ >>>>>>>>>>>>> to see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will >>>>>>>>>>>>> lose most as they are hands on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract >>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs for the government, right? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to >>>>>>>>>>>>> education - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best >>>>>>>>>>>>> practice approaches. Healthcare etc >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most >>>>>>>>>>>>> instances - it is the industry associations working with the governments. >>>>>>>>>>>>> An angle to borrow from. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks >>>>>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve >>>>>>>>>>>>> public service must comply. >>>>>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next >>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT >>>>>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of >>>>>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” >>>>>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will >>>>>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape >>>>>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We >>>>>>>>>>>>> are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom of God on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Dorcas Muthoni 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

I am sure they will be willing to listen too. Let's focus on the issues so that people feel free to engage. Walu, can this be an AOB somewhere during the planned meet-up? On Dec 2, 2016 9:21 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Dorcas I'm answering you specifically because you raised the issue. And yes the Authority needs to engage all stakeholders. And yes. Definitely beyond this list. We are yet to see evidence of that. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is this for me? It's for us all. Perhaps what you are saying is the ICT > Authority should should use a multi-stakeholder process. > > I am certain that getting the best criteria would involve more than those > in this list. > > On Dec 2, 2016 9:10 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >> Dorcas >> >> You miss the point. Infact we are super concerned especially because >> these machinations are specifically targeting tenders. >> >> Why are you not answering the pertinent issues we have asked? >> >> 1. Who is an ICT Practitioner? >> 2. Who decides and what criteria is going to be used to ask and answer >> the above question? >> >> We are all for self-regulation. The majority of the malpractices are >> actually perpetrated by government functionaries who collude with >> TenderPreneurs. How then would you zero in on the so-called 'quacks'. >> >> Lets be honest with ourselves and say it as it is. >> >> This is simply a way to Ring-Fence certain opportunities for certain >> people. >> >> Regards >> >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> >> *Principal* >> >> *Hussein & Associates* >> >> >> >> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >> >> >> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >> >> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >> >> Nairobi, Kenya. >> >> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely >> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >> organizations that I work with. >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic. >>> >>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? >>> >>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, >>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer >>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and >>> engineering graduates. >>> >>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling >>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain >>> professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues >>> at hand. >>> >>> Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of >>> extreme tender-prenuership. >>> >>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark >>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. >>> >>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with >>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. >>> >>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working >>> on it. >>> >>> Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >>>> Personally I thing further probing is required. >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>>>> a model exists? My two cents. >>>>> >>>>> Beryl Aidi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>>>> >>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>>> >>>>>> Alliance Technologies >>>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>>>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly! >>>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to >>>>>> define it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action >>>>>> - reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A >>>>>> decision for instance in some of these association, say which colour to >>>>>> paint a wall might take four months. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If >>>>>> this can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions >>>>>> collectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are >>>>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>>>> places. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show >>>>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a >>>>>>>> limited, shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a >>>>>>>> set of rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive >>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> James Muendo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | >>>>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via >>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks >>>>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of >>>>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify >>>>>>>>>>> regulation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul Gardner >>>>>>>>>>>> Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in >>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since >>>>>>>>>>>> the term ICT started being used. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the >>>>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ >>>>>>>>>>>> to see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will >>>>>>>>>>>> lose most as they are hands on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs >>>>>>>>>>>> for the government, right? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to >>>>>>>>>>>> education - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best >>>>>>>>>>>> practice approaches. Healthcare etc >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances >>>>>>>>>>>> - it is the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to >>>>>>>>>>>> borrow from. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks >>>>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve >>>>>>>>>>>> public service must comply. >>>>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next >>>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of >>>>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” >>>>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will >>>>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape >>>>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We >>>>>>>>>>>> are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom of God on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> people who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our >>>>>>>>>>>> institutions are run. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Listers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) >>>>>>>>>>>> professionals will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the >>>>>>>>>>>> industry, ICT Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of >>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for >>>>>>>>>>>> services in the counties. >>>>>>>>>>>> Read on:- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible >>>>>>>>>>>> phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://www.mediamaxn >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxn>etwork.co.ke/people- >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://etwork.co.ke/people->daily/277875/ict-authority-weed-quacks/'. >>>>>>>>>>>> Original text='http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co>. ke/people-daily/277875/ict- >>>>>>>>>>>> authority-weed-quacks/'. For more information on phishing click here >>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, >>>>>>>>>>>> possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://ke.linkedin.c >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.c>om/in/alihkassim'. Original text='http://ke.linkedin >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin>. com/in/alihkassim'. For more information on phishing >>>>>>>>>>>> click here <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ >>>>>>>>>>>> mailman/options/kictanet/ ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40g…> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmed Maawy >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal Product Management Specialist - Al Jazeera Media >>>>>>>>>>>> Network >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: ultimateprogramer >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangar >>>>>>>>>>>> ikabiru%40yahoo.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...

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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Ali Hussein 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Dorcas I'm answering you specifically because you raised the issue. And yes the Authority needs to engage all stakeholders. And yes. Definitely beyond this list. We are yet to see evidence of that. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is this for me? It's for us all. Perhaps what you are saying is the ICT > Authority should should use a multi-stakeholder process. > > I am certain that getting the best criteria would involve more than those > in this list. > > On Dec 2, 2016 9:10 AM, "Ali Hussein" <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >> Dorcas >> >> You miss the point. Infact we are super concerned especially because >> these machinations are specifically targeting tenders. >> >> Why are you not answering the pertinent issues we have asked? >> >> 1. Who is an ICT Practitioner? >> 2. Who decides and what criteria is going to be used to ask and answer >> the above question? >> >> We are all for self-regulation. The majority of the malpractices are >> actually perpetrated by government functionaries who collude with >> TenderPreneurs. How then would you zero in on the so-called 'quacks'. >> >> Lets be honest with ourselves and say it as it is. >> >> This is simply a way to Ring-Fence certain opportunities for certain >> people. >> >> Regards >> >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> >> *Principal* >> >> *Hussein & Associates* >> >> >> >> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> >> >> >> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >> >> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >> >> Nairobi, Kenya. >> >> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely >> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >> organizations that I work with. >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic. >>> >>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? >>> >>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, >>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer >>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and >>> engineering graduates. >>> >>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling >>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain >>> professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues >>> at hand. >>> >>> Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of >>> extreme tender-prenuership. >>> >>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark >>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. >>> >>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with >>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. >>> >>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working >>> on it. >>> >>> Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >>>> Personally I thing further probing is required. >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>>>> a model exists? My two cents. >>>>> >>>>> Beryl Aidi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>>>> >>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>>> >>>>>> Alliance Technologies >>>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>>>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly! >>>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to >>>>>> define it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action >>>>>> - reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A >>>>>> decision for instance in some of these association, say which colour to >>>>>> paint a wall might take four months. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If >>>>>> this can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions >>>>>> collectively. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are >>>>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>>>> places. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show >>>>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a >>>>>>>> limited, shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a >>>>>>>> set of rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive >>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> James Muendo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | >>>>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via >>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks >>>>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of >>>>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify >>>>>>>>>>> regulation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul Gardner >>>>>>>>>>>> Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in >>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since >>>>>>>>>>>> the term ICT started being used. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the >>>>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ >>>>>>>>>>>> to see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will >>>>>>>>>>>> lose most as they are hands on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs >>>>>>>>>>>> for the government, right? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to >>>>>>>>>>>> education - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best >>>>>>>>>>>> practice approaches. Healthcare etc >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances >>>>>>>>>>>> - it is the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to >>>>>>>>>>>> borrow from. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks >>>>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve >>>>>>>>>>>> public service must comply. >>>>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next >>>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of >>>>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” >>>>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will >>>>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape >>>>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We >>>>>>>>>>>> are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The >>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom of God on Earth". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same >>>>>>>>>>>> people who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our >>>>>>>>>>>> institutions are run. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Listers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) >>>>>>>>>>>> professionals will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the >>>>>>>>>>>> industry, ICT Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of >>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for >>>>>>>>>>>> services in the counties. >>>>>>>>>>>> Read on:- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible >>>>>>>>>>>> phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://www.mediamaxn >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxn>etwork.co.ke/people- >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://etwork.co.ke/people->daily/277875/ict-authority-weed-quacks/'. >>>>>>>>>>>> Original text='http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co>. ke/people-daily/277875/ict- >>>>>>>>>>>> authority-weed-quacks/'. For more information on phishing click here >>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, >>>>>>>>>>>> possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://ke.linkedin.c >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.c>om/in/alihkassim'. Original text='http://ke.linkedin >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin>. com/in/alihkassim'. For more information on phishing >>>>>>>>>>>> click here <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ >>>>>>>>>>>> mailman/options/kictanet/ ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40g…> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ahmed Maawy >>>>>>>>>>>> Principal Product Management Specialist - Al Jazeera Media >>>>>>>>>>>> Network >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: ultimateprogramer >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wangar >>>>>>>>>>>> ikabiru%40yahoo.co.uk >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bmn%40 >>>>>>>>>>>> savannahinformatics.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer - Savannah Informatics Ltd. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%4 >>>>>>>>>>>> 0alyhussein.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lordmw >>>>>>>>>>>> esh%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *_______________________________________________* >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emails >>>>>>>>>>>> ignet%40mailcan.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>>>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>>>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>>>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/arebac >>>>>>>>>>>> ollins%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>>>> and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
by Ali Hussein 02 Dec '16

02 Dec '16

Dorcas You miss the point. Infact we are super concerned especially because these machinations are specifically targeting tenders. Why are you not answering the pertinent issues we have asked? 1. Who is an ICT Practitioner? 2. Who decides and what criteria is going to be used to ask and answer the above question? We are all for self-regulation. The majority of the malpractices are actually perpetrated by government functionaries who collude with TenderPreneurs. How then would you zero in on the so-called 'quacks'. Lets be honest with ourselves and say it as it is. This is simply a way to Ring-Fence certain opportunities for certain people. Regards *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Why are so many people insecure about this topic. > > Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not? > > Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know, > most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer > science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and > engineering graduates. > > I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling entity > coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain > professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues > at hand. > > Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of > extreme tender-prenuership. > > Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark Mark > Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion. > > If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with > money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups. > > Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working on > it. > > Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic. > > On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority. >> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar). >> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests . >> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but >> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true, >> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets. >> Personally I thing further probing is required. >> >> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in >>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated >>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully >>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any >>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and >>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm; >>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such >>> a model exists? My two cents. >>> >>> Beryl Aidi >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..." >>>> >>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>> >>>> Alliance Technologies >>>> www.at.co.ke >>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM >>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks >>>> >>>> Exactly! >>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define >>>> it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action - >>>> reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision >>>> for instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall >>>> might take four months. >>>> >>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this >>>> can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively. >>>> >>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva(a)transworldafrica.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are >>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high >>>>> places. >>>>> >>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said >>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes. >>>>> >>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show >>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond... >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited, >>>>>> shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of >>>>>> rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government >>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the >>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james(a)muendo.co.ke> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> James Muendo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO), >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: | >>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" >>>>>>>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks >>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of >>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify >>>>>>>>> regulation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul Gardner >>>>>>>>>> Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, >>>>>>>>>> Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii >>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ______________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since the >>>>>>>>>> term ICT started being used. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the >>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to >>>>>>>>>> see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose >>>>>>>>>> most as they are hands on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti >>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" >>>>>>>>>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs >>>>>>>>>> for the government, right? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education >>>>>>>>>> - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best practice >>>>>>>>>> approaches. Healthcare etc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - >>>>>>>>>> it is the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to >>>>>>>>>> borrow from. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks >>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve >>>>>>>>>> public service must comply. >>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next >>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT >>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of >>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” >>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will >>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape >>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Be blessed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>>>>>>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of >>>>>>>>>> God on Earth". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via >>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same >>>>>>>>>> people who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our >>>>>>>>>> institutions are run. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Listers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) professionals >>>>>>>>>> will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the industry, ICT >>>>>>>>>> Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday. >>>>>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of >>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for >>>>>>>>>> services in the counties. >>>>>>>>>> Read on:- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible >>>>>>>>>> phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://www.mediamaxn >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxn>etwork.co.ke/people- >>>>>>>>>> <http://etwork.co.ke/people->daily/277875/ict-authority-weed-quacks/'. >>>>>>>>>> Original text='http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxnetwork.co>. ke/people-daily/277875/ict- >>>>>>>>>> authority-weed-quacks/'. For more information on phishing click here >>>>>>>>>> <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein >>>>>>>>>> Principal >>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates >>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, >>>>>>>>>> possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='http://ke.linkedin.c >>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.c>om/in/alihkassim'. Original text='http://ke.linkedin >>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin>. com/in/alihkassim'. For more information on phishing >>>>>>>>>> click here <http:///docs/phishing.html>.* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>>>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ >>>>>>>>>> mailman/options/kictanet/ ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40g…> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>>>>>>> and regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>>> >>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>>> ailman/options/kictanet/bee.aidi%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Beryl >>> *********************************************** >>> Darkness cannot put out the Light. It can only make God brighter. >>> —Author Unknown. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>> ailman/options/kictanet/alfkinyua%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Program for tomorrow's Kenya ICT year in review cocktail - 2nd December 2016 from 6pm to 9pm
by Grace Githaiga 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Listers Please find attached the program for tomorrow's cocktail. Regards Grace

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Petition against Ajira
by Tony White 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

This is strange - It seems to me that those who are already involved in 'online' work just don't want 1 million Kenyan youth 'invading their space'. Fear? Jealousy? Sijui ;) I have to hope that CS Mucheru knows what he is doing! http://www.techweez.com/2016/11/30/petition-fronted-bring-ajira-digital-web… -- Tony White

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Day 1 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Policy, Legal & Regulatory Issues
by WANGARI KABIRU 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Blessed new month December! Kindly find comments, with thanks! Be blessed! Regards/Wangari Day 1 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback -Policy, Legal & Regulatory Issues Listers,(apologies for cross-posting) Thanksagain for those who spared time to provide feedback - so that the rest of uscan read and interrogate the same :-) Over thenext 3 days I shall share the feedback and basically hope to get furtherreactions from the floor. I attach the feedback document but withsummaries below: 1. Policy& Legal Feedback a) 52% of the respondents felt that the UniversalService Fund(USF) had not met its objective. 40% felt that it had to a moderateextent while 8% felt it had a very large extent. - CSOs tappinginto the fund; for advocacy, lobbying- Innovators - for groundbreaking research and solutions that others may ride on as enterprises a) 61% of therespondents felt that ICT Policies and initiative had not impacted thecounties. 23% of the respondents felt that these had moderately impacted thecounties, while 10% felt they had an impact to a very large extent.- CountyGovernments must take initiative to inbuilt in their services. c) 41% of the respondents felt that the multi-stakeholder approachbetween ICT stakeholders and government was moderately achieved. 31% feltit was not achieved while 25% felt it was, to a very large extent.We have seen public calls to ICT stakeholders by Government agencies- The Tech community contribution can do much better- CSOs are not at the forefront lobbying - perhaps may not have the capacity d) Policy/Legal Issues not yet addressed include: Cyber Crime /CyberSecurity Bill and its position in Senate and National Assembly, Data ProtectionBill, ICT Practitioners Bill, Privacy Issue Linkages between National &County Governments on ICT matters, Quality of Internet, Infrastructure SharingRegulatory FeedbackThe feedback loop can be improved2. Regulatory Feedbacka) 48% of the respondents felt that the question of affordable communications/internetpricing had not been well addressed. 30% felt that the question of affordablepricing has been moderately addressed while 20% felt it has been addressed to avery large extent.- CSOs who are best placed to lobbyfor this seem not to consider ICT as a frontier to venture into. They are stillfocused on the poverty areas where donors pump money of food, health, education- Donor support linked to the ICTs isnew frontier that entities like ISOC Chapter may champion forb) 68% of the respondents felt that the issue of dominance in the sectorwas affecting pricing of communication services to a very large extent. 16%felt it moderately affected pricing while 13% felt it was really not an issue.- Monopoly, oligopoly with a lukewarm regulator hand to players is notgood for the consumer. It is very good for the investor- The fact that the ICT sector is predominantly foreign-owned should be acontributor – with repatriation of profits and foreign versus local interestsc) 48% of the respondents felt that the urban-rural digital divide hadnot been adequately addressed while 34% felt that it had been moderatelyaddressed while only 7% felt it had been addressed to a very large extent. Urban-urban divide requires to get into the conversation. This is also adiscriminatory element.- ISPs cables within urban centres terminate as you enter into a slumarea.- What this means is that the low income pay more, have to find theirown local ways to access servicese.g Kenya Power in the slum electrification has shown that it can bedone.d) 65% of the respondents felt that the regulator had not addressed theissue of inclusivity with regard to persons with disabilities (PWD). 27% feltthis had been moderately addressed while only 5% felt it has been addressed toa large extent.What does legislation say – this becomes the benchmark andall players comply- CSOs take on their role to engage and lobby for e) Areas needing Regulatory Interventions: Operator Dominance Issues,Internet Pricing & Affordability issues, White Spaces, Operationalizationof Universal Service Fund & Access, Failed Number Portability, Dataprotection for Subscriber Data, Conflict between regulatory bodies, Last mileconnectivity and Way-leaves, Net-Neutrality, Support for ICT-startups, Supportfor Digital evidence in courts, Inclusion & Support for Persons With Irrespectiveof whether you participated in the questionnaire or not, you are invitedto comment, support, oppose and/or seek clarifications on the views ofstakeholders.Tommorrow weshall post the feedback on Human Capital & Infrastructure. --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

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Re: [kictanet] Day 3 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Information Infrastructure Issues
by WANGARI KABIRU 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Blessed new month! Kindly find comments, with thanks! Blessed day. Regards/Wangari Re: [kictanet] Day 3 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in ReviewFeedback - Information Infrastructure IssuesFrom: Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback- Human Capital Feedback Thanx Bomu, Wangari, Rop, Barrack, Wambui and others for yourreactions...the floor is actually open for belated reactions on previousthematic areas, just keep the subject line in context. Today we share the feedback on the last thematic area :- InformationInfrastructure as given below. a) 86% of the respondents felt that governmentdigitization (Huduma Centers, eCitizen portal, etc) program has been useful toa very large extent. 12% felt it was moderately useful with a very smallminority1.5 thinking it has not been useful.The usefulness isundoubted when you look at access, possibly when you compare with a past whenit was not as efficient.Kenya has won awardsand honourable global recognition for some of the initiatives such as HudumaCenters.Let us move thediscourse forward now. Is this the best there is?- Could we define afuture then gauge from it- What other practicesare there in other countries- How is the businessand technical community riding on this “like over the top services”Areas to interrogate;- Local supply- Local labourWhat are the declared hiddencosts;- The user pays the feefor the service- There is anadministration fee e.g business name search went higher. What are the undeclaredhidden costs;- Buy a phone that iscompliant- The user absorbs theother hidden costs – internet bundles, cybercafé charge – cybers charge Ksh200-500 to assist with PIN registry plus cybercafé per minute charges- Centralised servicesaway from our local chiefs means transport costs - These undeclaredhidden costs are poverty propagators – the well to do seeking for efficiencymay not feel the pinch loudly, what of the hard-pressed?- Who is benefiting – Phonecompanies, ISPs, local cybersb) 48% of the respondents felt that thedigitization of government operations has gone to the other sectors to amoderate extent. 30% felt this cross-sector absorption of ICTs has not reallyhappened while 10% feel it has to a very large extent.A wholesome survey on the national state would aidto respond to this with affirmative- This is where CSOs plug in and conduct a neutralsurveyPR is important- Discussions in public recently were on how IFMISis said to propagate fraud by senior officials – Governors who definemwananchis mindset a lot. Leaders should be held accountable c) 52% of the respondents felt that the localcontent industry has NOT been well supported. 34% felt it has been moderatelysupported while only 8% felt it has been supported to a very large extent.We need a sharedappreciation of local content – and to broaden the scope- This has been takento be for TV, Radio mainly in the arts. - This would elicit heavy emotions versusrationalisation- Universities and higher level institutions can take this one d) 70% of the respondents felt that the issue ofinformation security has not been adequately addressed. 25% thought it had beenmoderately addressed while only 4% felt it had been addressed to a very largeextent.This must get into the Internet Governanceconversations- Lack of security or protection negates and reduces thethrust of ICTs driving the economyGod is merciful to us certainly because the day “saidfraudstar types” descend, Kenyans are in trouble- As a general public, awareness on security evenphysical security is not an every day factor- This makes digital security a farfetched subjectto most- Until money is involved- Data is conceptualPrivate sector as the provider of services must beincreasingly liable to protect its customers. Consumers trust that the produceris in the market and certified because they offer a good product – which includesprotection from all harm- Might this be a factor in increase in cost ofsome services - Consumer education should be reinforced. ByGovernment, CSOs and private sector – the way a product/service is broadcasted,the dangers should be highlighted tood) The following werementioned as key info-infrastructure interventions that have not beenaddressed/misaddressed: Misguided/aggressive e-Content regulation maybecounter-productive to local content industry. Security surveillance withoutData Protection Act is counter-productive. The Government Shared Serviceconcept still not effective, particularly at County levels. Expand eGovServices to be accessible thro USSD, Improve the user-interface on mostGovernment websites, enhance cyber security and offer public awareness programson the same. The detailed report is attached and we have until tomorrow mid-day toclose this up. --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

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Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Human Capital Feedback
by WANGARI KABIRU 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Blessed new month December! Kindly find comments with thanks! Regards/Wangari [kictanet] Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year inReview Feedback - Human Capital Feedback WalubengoJ via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> To wangarikabiru(a)yahoo.co.ukCC Walubengo J 29 Nov at12:48 PM Thanx Barrack, Looks like Day1 had littlereaction/comments. Feel free to belatedly post on Policy, Legal/ Regulatory mattersbut just keep the correct subject line. Today we to move to Day2a (HumanCapital feedback) and Day 2b (Infrastructure feedback to be sent in next email) Summary feedback on Human Capital wasas follows with detailed document attached. a) 41% of the respondents felt that the government hadprovided sufficient ICT opportunities for the youth to a moderate extent. 30%however felt youth opportunities had not been effectively provided, while 27%felt it had been done to a large extent. How far is this the mandate of the Government? - ICT Labour force projections; then building capacity backwards Some areas that may betapped into;- Private sector in capacity building of their staff- Personal initiatives to advance in ICT skills- Community resource centresb) 58% of therespondents felt that the DLP (Laptop Project) will have a positive impact to avery large extent. 30% felt it would be a moderate impact while 12% think itwill have little or no impact. There is a lot of positiveness - Keeping in mind that the laptop is not the education and that learnershave different abilitiesc) 40% of therespondents felt that tertiary institutions were, to a moderate extentproviding the requisite skill set for the ICT industry. 34% felt they were to alarge extent providing these skills while 24% felt they were not.ICT skills to many is still at the word, excel tutorials – so as to handin typed out assignments- The tertiary institutions should be able to lift the level of learningfor all learners beyond thisd) 40% of therespondents felt that Konza City will have a positive impact to a very largeextent. 21% felt it will be a moderate impact while 25% think it will have noimpact.- Replicationacross the country- Lift one to theremote areas of Kenya; open up- CountyGovernment can take on such as their own long term initiative; investoropportunities, local jobse) Providegeneral ICT literacy programmes to the public, Coding as a skill to allstudents – irrespective of discipline, Continuity in government offices (ratherthan sabotage of previous holder initiatives), Improve Academia-Government-Industry linkages, Cryptography training, Identify and supportTechnology Universities, Promote Incubation Center, Have mechanisms to weed outICT quacks, Provide ICT scholarships, Standardize ICT Trainings, Digitizationof key services - police occurrence books, land registries should be availed tothe youth.Toa maoni (let hear your reactions) walu. --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

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The Ups and Downs of Social Media
by Mildred Achoch 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Hi all, This may be of interest: http://kenyainsights.com/take-a-loan-youll-need-it-ntvs-larry-madowo-facing… Regards, Mildred Achoch. Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Re: [kictanet] Day 3 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Information Infrastructure Issues
by Wambui Wambui 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Sorry for the cross-post but figured it will may make life easier for those compiling. Here are some thoughts on information infrastructure: *a) 86% of the respondents felt that government digitization (Huduma Centers, eCitizen portal, etc) program has been useful to a very large extent. 12% felt it was moderately useful with a very small minority1.5 thinking it has not been useful.* Comment: Digitizing operation has been a great idea. But is it widespread and consistently applied? E.g. getting an abstract at a police station means paying a certain fee for the photocopy usually available at the station’s kiosk. Yet if I go to Huduma Centre, I should get it at no fee and it’s a downloadable form. If I need to get the abstract over the weekend, I’ll pay for the photocopy at the station, yet I could have gotten it for free at a Huduma Centre. Government should therefore also invest in awareness programs that inform citizens about the digitizing of services, how to get them, what to expect etc. This can be done to grassroots level, and should include creative people like the Nakuru chief who tweets to residents in his location. Stability of the digitized systems should be guaranteed. ID replacement services recently had been shut down for several weeks at Huduma Centres because the system was down. I was told that that wasn’t the first time, and the system has even gone almost a month without working. *b) 48% of the respondents felt that the digitization of government operations has gone to the other sectors to a moderate extent. 30% felt this cross-sector absorption of ICTs has not really happened while 10% feel it has to a very large extent.* Comment: Same thought as presented in a). *c) 52% of the respondents felt that the local content industry has NOT been well supported. 34% felt it has been moderately supported while only 8% felt it has been supported to a very large extent.* Comment: I agree that the local content industry is not well supported. At my university for example, I have many students bubbling with ideas for online content such as shows, blogs, information hubs, etc. But they’re afraid their ideas will be stolen if they ask for advice, they wonder what resources – financial or other – they will need, and sometimes they don’t know where to start. Content also is often the target of existing and proposed law, and even when it is encouraged (such as the CAK’s call for more local content on TV), it often seems to be most vulnerable to overzealous and sensitive authorities. The proposed Film Bill and pressures on bloggers come to mind. I think support should come from a variety of sources: government can provide a regulatory and policy environment that not only supports, but encourages the development of local content; government can partner with industry, academia and communities to raise awareness about local content, create opportunities for it, and enable creators to protect their intellectual work while getting paid for it. *d) 70% of the respondents felt that the issue of information security has not been adequately addressed. 25% thought it had been moderately addressed while only 4% felt it had been addressed to a very large extent.* Comment: I agree that information security is a weak point. I have questions about whether any of the digital information on our systems is well protected, whether it is sold to the highest bidder, who is watching what, etc. I have no solutions, but regulatory authorities and whoever else is concerned should consider that this is not just a technical issue, but one about trust. People may choose to do certain things on digital platforms, or to keep off, based on how much they trust the systems. d) The following were mentioned as key info-infrastructure interventions that have not been addressed/misaddressed: *Misguided/aggressive e-Content regulation maybe counter-productive to local content industry. Security surveillance without Data Protection Act is counter-productive. The Government Shared Service concept still not effective, particularly at County levels. Expand eGov Services to be accessible thro USSD, Improve the user-interface on most Government websites, enhance cyber security and offer public awareness programs on the same. * Comment: Let more digitization services start from the grassroots up, not from the top down. The tweeting chief in Nakuru offers an example of how a digital tool (Twitter) can be used to reach a large number of people (in his case, via sms) to address local challenges and provide information about local matters. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > My bad, > > I had the wrong the subject line - now refreshed. Body message + > attachments remains the same. > > walu. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com > *Cc:* Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:23 AM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback > - Human Capital Feedback > > Thanx Bomu, Wangari, Rop, Barrack, Wambui and others for your > reactions...the floor is actually open for belated reactions on previous > thematic areas, just keep the subject line in context. > > Today we share the feedback on the last thematic area :- Information > Infrastructure as given below. > > > *a) 86% of the respondents felt that government digitization (Huduma > Centers, eCitizen portal, etc) program has been useful to a very large > extent. 12% felt it was moderately useful with a very small minority1.5 > thinking it has not been useful.* > *b) 48% of the respondents felt that the digitization of government > operations has gone to the other sectors to a moderate extent. 30% felt > this cross-sector absorption of ICTs has not really happened while 10% feel > it has to a very large extent.* > *c) 52% of the respondents felt that the local content industry has NOT > been well supported. 34% felt it has been moderately supported while only > 8% felt it has been supported to a very large extent.* > *d) 70% of the respondents felt that the issue of information security has > not been adequately addressed. 25% thought it had been moderately addressed > while only 4% felt it had been addressed to a very large extent.* > d) The following were mentioned as key info-infrastructure interventions > that have not been addressed/misaddressed: > > *Misguided/aggressive e-Content regulation maybe counter-productive to > local content industry. Security surveillance without Data Protection Act > is counter-productive. The Government Shared Service concept still not > effective, particularly at County levels. Expand eGov Services to be > accessible thro USSD, Improve the user-interface on most Government > websites, enhance cyber security and offer public awareness programs on the > same. * > The detailed report is attached and we have until tomorrow mid-day to > close this up. > > best regards. > > walu. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/wwamunyu2009%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Day 1 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Policy, Legal & Regulatory Issues
by Walubengo J 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Listers, (apologies for cross-posting) Thanks again for those who spared time to provide feedback - so that the rest of us can read and interrogate the same :-) Over the next 3 days I shall share the feedback and basically hope to get further reactions from the floor. I attach the feedback document but with summaries below: 1. Policy & Legal Feedback a) 52% of the respondentsfelt that the Universal Service Fund(USF) had not met its objective. 40% feltthat it had to a moderate extent while 8% felt it had a very large extent. b) 61% of the respondents felt that ICT Policies and initiativehad not impacted the counties. 23% of the respondents felt that these hadmoderately impacted the counties, while 10% felt they had an impact to a verylarge extent. c) 41% of the respondents felt that the multi-stakeholder approachbetween ICT stakeholders and government was moderately achieved. 31% feltit was not achieved while 25% felt it was, to a very large extent. d) Policy/Legal Issues not yet addressed include: Cyber Crime/Cyber Security Bill and its position in Senate and National Assembly, DataProtection Bill, ICT Practitioners Bill, Privacy Issue Linkages betweenNational & County Governments on ICT matters, Quality of Internet,Infrastructure Sharing Regulatory Feedback2. Regulatory Feedback a) 48% of the respondents felt that the question of affordablecommunications/internet pricing had not been well addressed. 30% felt that thequestion of affordable pricing has been moderately addressed while 20% felt ithas been addressed to a very large extent. b) 68% of the respondents felt that the issue of dominance inthe sector was affecting pricing of communication services to a very largeextent. 16% felt it moderately affected pricing while 13% felt it was reallynot an issue. c) 48% of the respondents felt that the urban-rural digitaldivide had not been adequately addressed while 34% felt that it had beenmoderately addressed while only 7% felt it had been addressed to a very largeextent. d) 65% of the respondents felt that the regulator had notaddressed the issue of inclusivity with regard to persons with disabilities(PWD). 27% felt this had been moderately addressed while only 5% felt it hasbeen addressed to a large extent. e) Areas needing RegulatoryInterventions: Operator Dominance Issues, Internet Pricing & Affordabilityissues, White Spaces, Operationalization of Universal Service Fund &Access, Failed Number Portability, Data protection for Subscriber Data,Conflict between regulatory bodies, Last mile connectivity and Way-leaves,Net-Neutrality, Support for ICT-startups, Support for Digital evidence incourts, Inclusion & Support for Persons With Irrespective of whether you participated in the questionnaire or not, you are invited to comment, support, oppose and/or seek clarifications on the views of stakeholders.Tommorrow we shall post the feedback on Human Capital & Infrastructure.

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Fwd: [i-network] BREAKING: MTN Mobile Money customers can now send money to Kenya and Rwanda
by Barrack Otieno 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Might be of interest, i suppose i can now order for ground nut sauce from the very source online. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Margaret Sevume <sevume(a)i-network.or.ug> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 09:04:36 GMT Subject: [i-network] BREAKING: MTN Mobile Money customers can now send money to Kenya and Rwanda To: I-Network Uganda <i-network(a)dgroups.org> Hello all, MTN Mobile Money customers in Uganda will now also be able to send money to MPesa and MTN Mobile Money customers in Kenya and Rwanda respectively. <http://pctechmag.com/2016/11/breaking-mtn-mobile-money-customers-can-now-se…> Full story here. Regards. -- Jeddy Genrwot Gerald Sub Editor <http://pctechmag.com/> PC Tech Magazine Kampala, Uganda Mobile/WhatsApp +256 773 202 182 Skype: jeddygen Twitter: @jgenrwot Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/jgenrwot> /jgenrwot You are receiving this message because you are a leader of the community <https://dgroups.org/iicd/i-network> I-Network Uganda. All community leaders receive these notifications immediately regardless of their email settings for this community. __________ MAILING LIST RULES - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=189… WEEKLY DISCUSSION ROUNDUPS - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=19… QUARTERLY eNEWSLETTERS - http://www.i-network.or.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=34&… WEBSITE - www.i-network.or.ug TWITTER - http://twitter.com/inetwork FACEBOOK - https://www.facebook.com/inetwork.ug The I-Network Dgroup is a platform for ICT Knowledge Sharing --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit [web site]( http://dgroups.org/iicd/i-network/ ) Click [here]( mailto:leave.i-network@dgroups.org ) to unsubscribe The email is intended only for the recipients. The owners of the Dgroups cannot be held responsible for the contents of the email message. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Fwd: [Internet Policy] Call for Nominations for Internet Technical Community Representation in the Internet Governance Forum Multistakeholder Advisory Group 2017 (MAG)
by Barrack Otieno 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Listers, For your attention. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Carl Gahnberg <gahnberg(a)isoc.org> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:11:06 +0000 Subject: [Internet Policy] Call for Nominations for Internet Technical Community Representation in the Internet Governance Forum Multistakeholder Advisory Group 2017 (MAG) To: Internet Policy External <InternetPolicy(a)elists.isoc.org> Call for Nominations: 2017 MAG Renewal The Internet Society (ISOC) is facilitating a process leading to recommendations from the Internet Technical Collaboration Group<http://www.internetcollaboration.org/> for participation in the 2017 Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG<http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout>). This process is for the technical community candidates only and candidate evaluations will include their relationship to that community. Other communities have their own processes. The purpose of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) is to advise the U.N. Secretary General on the programme and schedule of the Internet Governance Forum meetings. The MAG comprises of 55 Members from governments, the private sector and civil society, including representatives from the academic and technical communities. Those nominated should expect to attend two virtual MAG meetings per month as well as typically three face to face meetings per year. Individuals interested in being suggested by the Nominating Committee are invited to complete the Nomination Form<http://www.internetcollaboration.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/20…> in full and return it to information.itcg(a)gmail.com<mailto:information.itcg@gmail.com> by 2359 UTC on Tuesday, December 6th. In addition, applicants are asked to provide responses to a set of Questions<http://www.internetcollaboration.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/Su…> that are specific to the Internet technical community. Applications with incomplete responses to either set of questions will not be considered. Preferred formats for document submissions are .pdf and .txt. ISOC will transmit the names of nominees to the United Nations no later than December 16th 2016. Both sets of questions should be answered completely. Responses need not necessarily be lengthy, but they must be sufficiently content-full that the Nominating Committee can accurately judge from them the extent and specifics of your background. If the applicant believes that an existing CV or biographical sketch would contribute to the Nominating Committee's understanding of the candidacy, such a document may be provided in either PDF form or in the form of a link. In terms of attendance at physical meetings, potential funding for MAG members (selected applicants) is available through the IGF "Participant funding" program outlined at http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/participant-funding. Note that this program is targeted only toward participants from Least Developed Countries, Developing Countries or Transitional Economies. 2017 MAG NomCom Members: * Michael Nelson * Scott Mansfield * Nigel Hickson * Chris Disspain * Adiel Akplogan * Pablo Hinojosa * Alejandro Pisanty Quick Links: * Nomination Form<http://www.internetcollaboration.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/20…> (2017) * Supplementary Questions Form<http://www.internetcollaboration.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/Su…> (2017) * Submit both forms to: information.itcg(a)gmail.com * Potential UN funding for applicants<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/participant-funding> for attendance at physical meetings * UN Call for Nominations<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/announcement-from-mr-wu-hon…> Privacy Statement The nominating committee is required to forward information provided by nominees on the MAG Nomination Form to the United Nations for purposes of the nomination. With the exception of candidates naming themselves, information provided to the NOMCOM for its consideration shall be treated in the strictest confidence. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Re: [kictanet] South School of Internet Governance (SSIG)
by Bonface Witaba 30 Nov '16

30 Nov '16

Hello Listers, I am hereby sharing the link to SSIG call for applications (Rio de Janeiro, Brasil): http://www.gobernanzainternet.org/ssig2017/ Kind regards Bonface Witaba Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 30 Nov, 2016 at 8:28, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fw: [governance] Survey Request on Multistakeholderism in Internet Governance (WANGARI KABIRU) 2. Re: #GivingTuesday (Magdalene Kariuki) 3. Re: Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Human Capital Feedback (Walubengo J) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:57:40 +0000 (UTC) From: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke>, "internetsociety-kenyachapter(a)connectedcommunity.org" <internetsociety-kenyachapter(a)connectedcommunity.org>, "mail(a)connectedcommunity.org" <mail(a)connectedcommunity.org> Cc: Dmitry Epstein <dmitry.epstein(a)gmail.com> Subject: [kictanet] Fw: [governance] Survey Request on Multistakeholderism in Internet Governance Message-ID: <1035937458.5081215.1480445860784(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We would appreciate you completing the following survey:?http://tinyurl.com/IGF2016 The survey should take up to 20-30 minutes to complete. Participants who complete the survey will have the opportunity to be entered into a drawing for a $50 Amazon.com gift card. Blessed Tuesday! Kenyan community share in research on multistakeholderism for IG. Be blessed! Regards/Wangari ?--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Wednesday, 23 November 2016, 22:12, Dmitry Epstein <dmitry.epstein(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear IGC Community: We are researchers at UC Berkeley and University of Illinois at Chicago. We are conducting a research study about perceptions of multistakeholderism and the use of online tools for participation in internet governance processes. Our goal is to inform multistakeholder processes and help develop new online tools for inclusive participation in internet governance. We would appreciate you completing the following survey:?http://tinyurl.com/IGF2016 The survey should take up to 20-30 minutes to complete. Participants who complete the survey will have the opportunity to be entered into a drawing for a $50 Amazon.com gift card. Please reach out to us with any questions or concerns. This research protocol has been approved by the UC Berkeley Committee for Protection of Human Subjects (CPHS Protocol: 2016-08-9071). If you have any questions or concerns about your rights and treatment as a research subject, you may contact the office of UC Berkeley's Committee for the Protection of Human Subjects, at?510-642-7461?or?subjects(a)berkeley.edu. Thank you, Brandie Nonnecke and Dmitry Epstein Brandie M. Nonnecke, PhD Research and Development Manager, UC Berkeley Program Director, UC Davis CITRIS and the Banatao Institute nonnecke(a)citris-uc.org citris-uc.org?|?(a)BNonnecke?|?nonnecke.com Dmitry Epstein Assistant Professor of Digital Policy Department of Communication University of Illinois at Chicago www.thinkmacro.org comm.uic.edu?? ____________________________________________________________

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#GivingTuesday
by Magdalene Kariuki 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

Dear fellow listers, I hope that this email finds you well! Did you know that today is #GivingTuesday? This is a follow up to #BlackFriday which was started to get people into the Christmas spirit of supporting the less fortunate in our communities. Why do I bring this up? I am a lister that is particularly passionate about leveraging ICT for Development (ICT4D). In relation to this I'm a member of the Rotary Club of Muthaiga and we are currently running a campaign to collect 20 tonnes of food estimated at Kes. 3.5M by 12th December to take to Turkana. We have been running a water and community livelihoods programme in Turkana for the last 4 years with great success. Unfortunately due to delayed minimal rainfall people living in Liwan and Lobur especially are the most affected and are facing death by starvation. We have therefore started a mitigation campaign to collect and transport food to the people of Turkana on/ thereabout 12th December 2016. I am therefore appealing to all of us/ our companies to please help us get to our target by either donating food or cash; tweeting/ using our social media platforms to generate awareness or linking us to any individuals or companies interested in partnering with us. For food donations, dry food stuffs are preferred eg unga; rice; lentils etc. Transport to collect the food can be organised for free at your convenience. If possible you please drop it at Mayfair hotel/ Southern Sun westlands on Mondays at 6-7:30 pm which is when we meet and you'll get to meet us and hear more about the campaign. For social media engagement we are using the hash tags #skipamealforTurkana #dontwaittocountthebodies Your consideration on the matter is highly appreciated! Best, Magdalene Kariuki.

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Fw: [governance] Survey Request on Multistakeholderism in Internet Governance
by WANGARI KABIRU 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

We would appreciate you completing the following survey: http://tinyurl.com/IGF2016 The survey should take up to 20-30 minutes to complete. Participants who complete the survey will have the opportunity to be entered into a drawing for a $50 Amazon.com gift card. Blessed Tuesday! Kenyan community share in research on multistakeholderism for IG. Be blessed! Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Wednesday, 23 November 2016, 22:12, Dmitry Epstein <dmitry.epstein(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear IGC Community: We are researchers at UC Berkeley and University of Illinois at Chicago. We are conducting a research study about perceptions of multistakeholderism and the use of online tools for participation in internet governance processes. Our goal is to inform multistakeholder processes and help develop new online tools for inclusive participation in internet governance. We would appreciate you completing the following survey: http://tinyurl.com/IGF2016 The survey should take up to 20-30 minutes to complete. Participants who complete the survey will have the opportunity to be entered into a drawing for a $50 Amazon.com gift card. Please reach out to us with any questions or concerns. This research protocol has been approved by the UC Berkeley Committee for Protection of Human Subjects (CPHS Protocol: 2016-08-9071). If you have any questions or concerns about your rights and treatment as a research subject, you may contact the office of UC Berkeley's Committee for the Protection of Human Subjects, at 510-642-7461 or subjects(a)berkeley.edu. Thank you, Brandie Nonnecke and Dmitry Epstein Brandie M. Nonnecke, PhD Research and Development Manager, UC Berkeley Program Director, UC Davis CITRIS and the Banatao Institute nonnecke(a)citris-uc.org citris-uc.org | @BNonnecke | nonnecke.com Dmitry Epstein Assistant Professor of Digital Policy Department of Communication University of Illinois at Chicago www.thinkmacro.org comm.uic.edu ____________________________________________________________

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Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Human Capital Feedback
by Gideon 29 Nov '16

29 Nov '16

>From the findings, my few comments on c) 40% of the respondents felt that tertiary institutions were,to a moderate extent providing the requisite skill set for the ICT industry.34% felt they were to a large extent providing these skills while 24% felt they were not. Comment: Tech and specifically the ICT world is an ever evolving realm, and while therre are basics that remain constant, the institutions have the responsibility to introduce these basics and as a plus, engage the industry directly so that there is synergy and so that somehow the students come out of the labs co-established and supported by the industry such as the specialty labs with coding/startup ecosystems with skills hat can be arbsored directly. Does the millennial factor play a lot in this agile system, i think yes and is it time to consider the millennial factor? e) Provide general ICT literacy programmes to the public, Codingas a skill to all students ? irrespective of discipline, Continuity ingovernment offices (rather than sabotage of previous holder initiatives),Improve Academia- Government-Industry linkages, Cryptography training, Identifyand support Technology Universities, Promote Incubation Center, Have mechanismsto weed out ICT quacks, Provide ICT scholarships, Standardize ICT Trainings,Digitization of key services - police occurrence books, land registries shouldbe availed to the youth. Comment: Digitization of all these legacy systems is a goo start, utilizing the digitized systems should be improved so that efficiency is achieved. Incubation centers are great to the extent that actual output can be measured. Regards Rop On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:36 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. > > Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - Human > Capital Feedback (Walubengo J) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:26:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > To: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>, KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Day 2(a) of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - > Human Capital Feedback > Message-ID: <2039769444.2418071.1480411584604(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanx Barrack, > Looks like Day1 had little reaction/comments. Feel free to belatedly post > on Policy, Legal/ Regulatory matters but just keep the correct subject line. > Today we to move to Day2a (Human Capital feedback) and Day 2b > (Infrastructure feedback to be sent in next email) > Summary feedback on Human Capital was as follows with detailed document > attached. > a) 41% of the respondents felt that the government had providedsufficient > ICT opportunities for the youth to a moderate extent. 30% howeverfelt youth > opportunities had not been effectively provided, while 27% felt ithad been > done to a large extent. > > b) 58% of the respondents felt that the DLP (Laptop Project)will have a > positive impact to a very large extent. 30% felt it would be amoderate > impact while 12% think it will have little or no impact. > > > c) 40% of the respondents felt that tertiary institutions were,to a > moderate extent providing the requisite skill set for the ICT industry.34% > felt they were to a large extent providing these skills while 24% felt > theywere not. > > d) 40% of the respondents felt that Konza City will have apositive impact > to a very large extent. 21% felt it will be a moderate impactwhile 25% > think it will have no impact. > > e) Provide general ICT literacy programmes to the public, Codingas a skill > to all students ? irrespective of discipline, Continuity ingovernment > offices (rather than sabotage of previous holder initiatives),Improve > Academia- Government-Industry linkages, Cryptography training, Identifyand > support Technology Universities, Promote Incubation Center, Have > mechanismsto weed out ICT quacks, Provide ICT scholarships, Standardize ICT > Trainings,Digitization of key services - police occurrence books, land > registries shouldbe availed to the youth. > > Toa maoni (let hear your reactions) > walu. > > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 1 of 3: 2016 ICT Year in Review Feedback - > Policy, Legal & Regulatory Issues > > Listers, > > We welcome? more feedback? on day 1 discussions on how we have > performed as an industry in 2016 . We will start day two this > afternoon after providing a summary of day ones discussion should we > receive feedback by then. > > Best Regards > > On 11/28/16, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Walu, > > > > Many thanks for the email. My humble opinion is that generally the > > government and related agencies have made great efforts in investing > > in ICT's. However it is worth noting that government is never good at > > marketing itself or communicating and i guess this is where the > > Ministry and related agencies need to pay attention. For example the > > issue of IFMIS has really been misunderstood. Software should never be > > blamed for fraud , people commit Fraud. We should always remember that > > ICT's are a means to an end and not an end in themselves. > > > > Regards > > >

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Ajira Digital Program
by Peter Wakaba 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Dear All, My apologies for cross posting. I am looking for someone who can give independent analysis of the recently launched Ajira Digital Program, which was rolled out by the ICT ministry yesterday, and which aims to introduce Kenyans to online work, and provide the tools, training and mentorship needed to work and earn an income. This would be a quick live television interview today at about 2.10pm about five minutes from I and M building in the city centre? It would dwell around what this means for youth and just how this will jell across teh entire country with the proposed digital hubs.

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Threats to our Internet freedom remain plentiful
by Liz Orembo 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Listers, This article is worth reading as we head towards the elections. To Quote: "...Kenya, having a more sophisticated leadership, can encroach on Internet freedoms in more subtle ways than many other African countries can. In other words, Kenyan authorities are unlikely to orchestrate a countrywide Internet shutdown like what typically happens in Uganda or Zimbabwe. However, they can achieve the same effect by shutting down selected zones of the country as and when they deem it necessary" Full article here <http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-3461054-52e4id/in…> -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF

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Invitation to the Kenya ICT year in review cocktail - 2nd December 2016 from 6pm to 9pm
by Mwendwa Kivuva 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Greetings, As we approach the end of the year, KICTANET has organised a cocktail to evaluate the progress of the ICT sector in Kenya. The cocktail will be held on 2nd Dec 2016 at the Laico Hotel, Nairobi Kenya from 6pm to 9pm. Findings of the "Kenya 2016 ICT sector Year in Review survey" will be shared and deliberate with the community. Please register for the event at this eventbrite page to enable logistics and planning: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kenya-ict-sector-2016-end-year-shindig-tickets… If you have any questions, you can direct them to info(a)kictanet.or.ke Sincerely ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh

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Re: [kictanet] ICT 2016 Year in Review Questions (Open from Monday 21st-Thursday 24th) - Polite Reminder
by Barrack Otieno 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Listers, Many thanks to those who have taken time to respond to the survey, a few more slots are remaining for the end year cocktail grab your opportunity now. Please note the survey closes tomorrow. Best Regards On 11/21/16, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > I've invited you to fill out the following form: > Kenya 2016 ICT sector Year in Review > > To fill it out, visit: > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd_KNiIAYl4jfGWw1o-W5ocfhENPoTIxa7… > > Google Forms: Create and analyze surveys. > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Google Digitises Kenya National Archives
by Mildred Achoch 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

A welcomed move: "The institute will hold 1,000 archives and artworks as well as 15 exhibits, giving access to the cultural treasures housed by KNA. Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000179442/google-digitises-kenya-na… Regards, Mildred Achoch. Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Fwd: [Internet Policy] Economics of data breaches
by Barrack Otieno 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Listers, This might be of interest to some of us. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Hill <rhill(a)hill-a.ch> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 10:37:43 +0100 Subject: [Internet Policy] Economics of data breaches To: internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org I don't think that the ISOC 2016 Global Internet Report was yet posted to this list, so here it is: https://www.internetsociety.org/globalinternetreport/2016/ The report focuses on security issues, in particular the economic issues that engender the lack of security that we all know about. I think that it is an excellent report (full disclosure: I contributed to the report). I'd like to highlight here what I consider to be two of the key points in the report. The first point is that Internet growth rates are slowing down (see p. 33 of the Report). While this is not necessarily an issue in parts of the world where most of the population is already connected, it is a serious issue for developing countries, where significant proportions of the population are not connected. Lack of trust may be a factor in discouraging access to the Internet. As the Report says on p. 34: "The slowdown in Internet growth rates, particularly in regions that were already falling behind the global average, lends urgency to the Internet Society's objective to connect the unconnected. There is evidence that existing users are increasingly concerned about privacy and security issues worldwide, and this may start to spill over to new users, who might become more reluctant to go online. If people trust the Internet, they are more likely to use it. Trust is at the heart of the Internet economy, and more and more at the heart of economic growth. This lends urgency to our objective to promote and restore trust in the Internet." The other point is the clear identification of the economic issues that lead to inadequate security, in particular externalities. Security experts have long recognized that lack of ICT security creates a negative externality[1]. For example, if an electronic commerce service is hacked and credit card information is disclosed, the users of the service users will have to change their credit cards. This is a cost both for the user and for the credit card company. But that cost is not visible to the electronic commerce service. Consequently, the electronic commerce service does not have an incentive to invest in greater security measures. A comprehensive discussion is given in pages 103-107 of the Report, see in particular the examples on p. 101. A summary is presented on p. 18 of the Report: "There is a market failure that governs investment in cybersecurity. First, data breaches have externalities; costs that are not accounted for by organisations. Second, even where investments are made, as a result of asymmetric information, it is difficult for organizations to convey the resulting level of cybersecurity to the rest of the ecosystem. As a result, the incentive to invest in cybersecurity is limited; organisations do not bear all the cost of failing to invest, and cannot fully benefit from having invested." Best, Richard _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Policy Guidelines for the Regulation of Zero-Rated Services
by Nanjira Sambuli 25 Nov '16

25 Nov '16

Hello all, The Alliance for Affordable Internet (www.a4ai.org) has just published the third (and final) brief in the A4AI series on the Impacts of Emerging Mobile Data Services in Developing Countries. Be sure to check out the full report, which outlines recommended policy and regulatory guidelines for the provision of zero-rated and other mobile data services in the countries studied, as well as this brief blog post about the report. Links to all 3 references: 1. http://a4ai.org/the-impacts-of-emerging-mobile-data-services-in-developing-… 2. http://a4ai.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MeasuringImpactsOfMobileDataServ… 3. http://a4ai.org/policy-guidelines-for-the-regulation-of-zero-rated-services/ Regards, Nanjira. Sent on the move.

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Re: [kictanet] Google Digitises Kenya National Archives
by Mildred Achoch 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Good point Emmanuel. I wonder, is there a mechanism for we the public to give our input on what we would like to be included in the archives? Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Great start..I trully hope the the history has not be pudgedto sanitize it > and make it 'acceptable' to state actors... > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Dear Alex, >> >> I had to Google to find the link: https://www.google.com/cultura >> linstitute/beta/partner/kenya-national-archives >> >> Regards, >> Mildred Achoch. >> >> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! >> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Alex Watila <awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> What is the link to access the digitized material? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila= >>> yahoo.co.uk(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Mildred Achoch via >>> kictanet >>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 1:53 PM >>> *To:* awatila(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> *Cc:* Mildred Achoch <mildandred(a)gmail.com> >>> *Subject:* [kictanet] Google Digitises Kenya National Archives >>> >>> >>> >>> A welcomed move: >>> >>> >>> "The institute will hold 1,000 archives and artworks as well as 15 >>> exhibits, giving access to the cultural treasures housed by KNA. >>> >>> Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke >>> /article/2000179442/google-digitises-kenya-national-archives >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mildred Achoch. >>> >>> >>> >>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! >>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >> ailman/options/kictanet/oloo.khisa%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > ‎"Service to Mankind is the greatest form of service"... > > > > > > *Oloo KhisaP.O. Box > 24324-00100Nairobi0721321086/0731849128http://ke.linkedin.com/in/olookhisa > <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/olookhisa>* >

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Fwd: [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Local Hosts for 2017 AFRINIC Training Workshops
by Mwendwa Kivuva 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

FYI ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AFRINIC Communication <comm-announce(a)afrinic.net> Date: 2016-11-24 11:33 GMT+04:00 Subject: [AFRINIC-Announce] Call for Local Hosts for 2017 AFRINIC Training Workshops To: announce(a)afrinic.net [Version française ci-dessous] Dear Colleagues, In 2016, with the support of various stakeholders in the community, we were able to train 638 engineers and managers during eighteen (18) training workshops held in sixteen (16) different countries. These trainings covered the knowledge and skills of Internet Number Resources Management (INRM) and IPv6 planning and deployment. We are currently searching for partners/Local Hosts to collaborate with us for the 2017 Training Workshop series. If you are interested in hosting an AFRINIC Training workshop, please go through the hosting details, benefits and requirements here: http://learn.afrinic.net/en/events/request-training#details To submit your proposal please fill the form found here: http://learn.afrinic.net/trp1/node/47 The deadline for proposal submission is 31 January 2017 at 23 59 GMT. - Publication of selected countries: 10 February 2017 - Publication of 2017 workshops calendar: 28 February 2017 Regards, The AFRINIC Training Unit (Follow us on Twitter: @AFRINICTraining) ----------------------------------------------- Chers Collègues, En 2016, grâce à la collaboration de nombreux partenaires, nous avons été capables de former 638 ingénieurs et décideurs de seize (16) pays africains, à travers dix huit (18) sessions de formations sur Ia gestion des ressources Internet (INRM) et le protocole Internet version 6 (IPv6). Pour l'année 2017, nous lançons donc l’appel à collaborer pour les sessions de formations d’AFRINIC 2017. Si vous souhaitez accueillir une session de formation AFRINIC, nous vous invitons à lire les détails d'hôtes, les avantages et critères de sélection ici : http://learn.afrinic.net/en/events/request-training#details Pour soumettre votre proposition veuillez remplir la fiche à l’adresse suivante : http://learn.afrinic.net/trp1/node/47 La date limite de soumission de proposition est le 31 janvier 2017, 23 59 GMT - La liste des pays sélectionnés sera publiée le 10 février 2017 - Le calendrier pour les formations sera publié le 28 février 2017 Cordialement, L'Equipe de Formation d'AFRINIC (Suivez nous sur Twitter: @AFRINICTraining) _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/announce

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(no subject)
by Ahmed Mohamed Maawy 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Listers, Stumbled an interesting article that none the less may be a good insight into how we may structure the business environments the way countries like China do: https://www.digitalasiahub.org/2016/11/04/is-china-buying-the-world-again-i… Although yes the market dynamics are different but one thing we have in common is the fact that we are each at the early stages of looking at creating global and regional digital presence. Anything significant to pick up for a discussion? Excerpt: *Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba Group – the company that had caught the attention of the global media with its historical IPO of $25 billion in 2014 – once again grabbed the headlines recently due to a standout $1 billion deal in April for a controlling stake of Lazada, an e-commerce company that operates across six countries in Southeast Asia, including Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. In 2015 alone, the company spent $18.3 billion acquiring stakes in more than 65 different companies both in and out of China, according to estimates.How to understand this recent but highly visible global buying spree? In 2012, University of Cambridge economist Peter Nolan wrote an illuminating book, “Is China Buying the World?”, which countered the pervasive anxiety in the popular media about China’s growing number of cross-border acquisitions, then mainly from its national oil companies. Fast forward to today, when China’s growing Internet industry is aggressively expanding globally, empowered by the Xi Jingping-Li Keqiang leadership’s flagship “One Belt One Road” roadmap and “Internet Plus” plan— one centred on expanding China’s presence globally, and the other on the country’s booming digital sector— the global expansion of China’s Internet firms, such as Alibaba, demands urgent attention.* -- *Ahmed Maawy* Principal Product Management Specialist - Al Jazeera Media Network Skype: ultimateprogramer

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Re: [kictanet] Facebook's real risk
by Mose Karanja 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Sidney et al. Since we all seem to agree that this is a real concern, may I ask how differently you would deliver news. It cannot be that we are complaining about Facebook and we are not offering what we would do differently. What became of our agency as individuals to source for our own news in the Internet age that we depend on Facebook exclusively to solve such a critical component of our lives? ---- Moses > On 23 Nov 2016, at 14:21, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Facebook's real risk (Sidney Ochieng) > > From: Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facebook's real risk > Date: 23 November 2016 at 14:17:55 EAT > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Cc: Mose Karanja <mosekaranja(a)gmail.com> > > > My two cents > Fake news is less a problem than the fact that Facebook is very very good at insuring that you stay inside your own bubble. > > As the liberals and Democrats look for someone, anyone, to blame for the election result they don't like they seem to have settled on Facebook. Anyone who knows how the newsfeed algorithm works knows that it shows you what it thinks you'll engage most with. I suspect that fake news only reinforced people's belief but did nothing to change their minds. > > Meanwhile I shudder to think what will happen when FB has the power to decide what is fake news and what isn't. The ability for this to scale outside the US is dubious to say the least but I suspect what ever solution is created would be scaled globally. Other thoughts on why this is not a great thing can be found here: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/the-cure-for-fake-news-is-wo… <http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/the-cure-for-fake-news-is-wo…> > > Far more nefarious is the filter bubble, it's the same filter bubble that made so many sure that Hillary was going to win, the same bubble that makes it easy to stay within your "tribe" and stay unexposed other people's opinions. That's the real issue here and the way the incentives are set up makes it very unlikely that FB will do anything to fix it, even if they can. > > On 22 November 2016 at 14:20, Mose Karanja via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: > Andrew, I agree with you on personal responsibility. > > However, my post yesterday was more about the personalization of online experiences while isolating contrary opinion. That is very different from 'Fake News'. > > It is easier for individuals to blame Facebook or Google for issues that are practically beyond them. Fake news is one of them. As it relates to Fake News, what happens to content hosted outside Facebook? Will we expect Facebook or Twitter or whatever platform there is to verify that for us? Remember Free Basics? There was so much heat generated from that debate with much much less progress on how to get people connected through public resources. I hope organizations that invested millions of dollars to fight Free Basics can also direct such kind of funding to engage government and communities to bring about more connectivity. > > -Moses > >> On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:09, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I’ve been following this thread with some interest and figured I’d add some comments to it. >> >> Moses, you pose an interesting hypothesis below, and one I tend to agree with – we do tend to group with others that share our common ideas and beliefs, and it does tend to lead to a closed minded approach on alternative views. This is certainly a danger that I believe needs to be thought about. >> >> At the same time, if I look at the uproar around the fake news, and I look at the impact of social media, I also believe that we must not discount the concept of personal responsibility. So often we rely on the platforms we use to verify information, to protect us from fake news, to protect us from what we see. But at the end of the day, each of us has a responsibility to verify what we read and make informed decisions. That is the nature of personal responsibility, and I hesitate to blame the providers of a platform for how we, as users, choose to use it. >> >> In a recent interview with one of the guys who writes a lot of satire and so called fake news – he was asked why he did it, and what he felt about the fact that some of his articles may have actually helped Donald Trump assume the presidency in the states. He said that personally, he hated everything Trump stood for, and he regrets that, but in the past, people would have fact checked the stuff he wrote and discounted it, while Trump himself would have been spreading it around, and hence, his intention was actually to hurt the Trump campaign rather than help it, through writing satire. Unfortunately, people choose to actually believe verbatim what was written. Now – that raises a question – is he responsible for what was believed verbatim, or do you hold accountable the people who should have actually verified something before spreading it? I tend to lean towards the latter. >> >> One of the advantages of the internet is that there are loads of sources of information – fact checking things is easy – we just have to choose to do it. We also have to be very wary of implementing controls and acting out of fears that are unsubstantiated and unfounded. I have seen similar in AfriNIC recently, where there is a policy proposal coming before the Mauritian meeting that has horrific implications. The basis behind it is that people are scared that someone MIGHT be abusing resources to we should implement something to cater for a hypothetical – irrespective of the damage that our risk mitigation may do – based on a fear that is unsubstantiated. >> >> So guard against that – verify what we read – act from a position of knowledge rather than fear – and take personal responsibility rather than blame a platform for how we use it. >> >> In the same way you cannot blame a computer if you commit an illegal act using it – because the computer is just the tool, it was you who used it in that manner. >> >> Just my thoughts >> >> Andrew >> >> >> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke>] On Behalf Of Moses Karanja via kictanet >> Sent: 21 November 2016 18:35 >> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com <mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>> >> Cc: Moses Karanja <mosekaranja(a)gmail.com <mailto:mosekaranja@gmail.com>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facebook's real risk >> >> I think the biggest tragedy we face, not just as Kenyans but as humans, is the behavior of teaming with only those we agree with. >> >> This takes two levels. >> >> Consciously: Some shares a news item on your timeline about a topic you find disgusting. You unfriend or unfollow them. >> >> Unconsciously: Social network algorithms study your behavior and show you those things they think you 'like'. >> >> The end result is you have a busy social media life but you are only interacting with those who look like you. >> >> We end up with very weak social genes thanks to 'digital in-breeding'. >> >> Individuals can work on the first one - a very steep socialization process though. >> >> The issue is the second level; can social networks rewrite their algorithms to bring diversity to their subscribers at the cost of weakened business models that depend on engagement and personalization of online experiences. >> >> >> >> This is not a simple problem and even if Facebook fixes the 'Fake News' problem, this 'digital in-breeding' will still lurk with us, not forgetting that other social media platforms have a responsibility too. >> >> >> >> -Moses >> >> >> On 21/11/2016 18:14, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Regards, > Sidney > > Twitter: @princelySid <https://twitter.com/princelySid> | Website: sidneyochieng.co.ke <http://sidneyochieng.co.ke/> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet www.moseskaranja.com

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Job opportunity: Research Assistant, Africa Programme Chatam House
by Alice Munyua 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Chatham House This may be of interest to some: https://www.chathamhouse.org/careers/africa-programme-research-assistant?ut… Best Alice

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Fwd: Open Forum : Data breaches and you: Global Internet Report 2016
by Barrack Otieno 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

Lister's, This might be useful to some. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Fernando Zarur via Internet Society <Mail(a)connectedcommunity.org> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:39:04 +0000 Subject: Open Forum : Data breaches and you: Global Internet Report 2016 To: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com == Please, reply above this line == Hi everyone, We launched today the 2016 Global Internet Report <https://www.internetsociety.org/globalinternetreport/2016/>. This year's edition focuses on how large-scale data breaches, uncertainties about the use of our data, cybercrime, surveillance and other online threats are eroding trust in the Internet. Most importantly, though, it points towards solutions that may help us solve these problems. Data breaches are the oil spills of the digital economy! The above statement is no exaggeration. Over 429 million people were affected by reported data breaches in 2015 and that number is certain to grow even higher in 2016. This is why the report explores the impact data breaches have on user trust and their consequences for the global digital economy. The purpose of the publication is to offer solutions and to emphasize the important role that companies and organizations play in building a more trusted Internet. Here is a video preview <https://youtu.be/FxPRGDF-9iY> of the kind of data you can find in the publication. A key question raised by the report is: why are organisations not taking all available steps to protect the personal information they collect from each of us? As usual, would be great to read your responses. Best, Fernando PS - Feel free to share the report widely. This is key to raise awareness about these topics! ------------------------------ zarur(a)isoc.org Outreach manager Outreach Manager, Membership Services at ISOC Note: replies will be sent to the full discussion group. ------------------------------ Reply to Sender : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&SenderKey… Reply to Discussion : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&MID=13305… You are subscribed to "Open Forum" as otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com. To change your subscriptions, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/preferences?section=Subscriptions&MDATE=…. To unsubscribe from this community discussion, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/HigherLogic/eGroups/Unsubscribe.aspx?Use…. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Fwd: Open Forum : ISOC's perspectives on outcomes of WTSA-16
by Barrack Otieno 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Elizabeth Oluoch via Internet Society <Mail(a)connectedcommunity.org> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 18:46:30 +0000 Subject: Open Forum : ISOC's perspectives on outcomes of WTSA-16 To: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com == Please, reply above this line == Dear Members, The ITU World Telecommunication Standardization Assembly 2016 (WTSA-16) meeting concluded just over 2.5 weeks ago where we had some time to reflect on the meeting in order to provide our perspectives on the some of the key outcomes. As such, our WTSA-16 Outcome report is available here: https://www.internetsociety.org/doc/itu-wtsa-2016-outcomes-internet-society… <https://www.internetsociety.org/doc/itu-wtsa-2016-outcomes-internet-society…> Additionally, we invite you to read attached contributions from Petko Kantchev on the new WTSA-16 Resolution on Studies concerning the protection of users of telecommunication/information and communication technology services and Verengai Mabika on new WTSA-16 resolution on Promoting the use of information and communication technologies to bridge the financial inclusion gap. As a side note, ISOC was fortunate to have a very strong and diverse delegation comprised of ISOC staff and members that brought various expertise and strengths to the conference. In ITU Conferences, speaking and voting rights are limited to Member States while Sector Members can participate only as observers (Ref: Article 3, ITU Constitution & Convention <https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/oth/02/09/S02090000155201PDFE.PDF>). At WTSA-16, the lack of technical expertise and substantive knowledge in some of the discussions was a chief drawback particularly when sector members were present but could not take the floor. Despite this limitation, the ISOC delegation was consulted at various levels and our information resources on our WTSA-16 section on the website referenced/highlighted by delegates in some of the more contentious proceedings. ISOCs information was credited by several delegations as essentially shaping the discussion on one of the key WTSA-16 issues which resulted in a more favorable outcome on that issue. The diversity of our delegation was an asset as delegates from various countries approached us and it is also where we could be most effective in shaping the discussions given the meeting constraints. Looking ahead to 2017 (WTDC) and also 2018 (Plenipotentiary), we will continue to consult and partner with our members in these preparations, so stay tuned. Finally, we welcome your questions/comments on any of the information that we circulated on WTSA-16. Other WTSA-16 related links: ISOCs WTSA-16 Resolutions Outcome Matrix https://www.internetsociety.org/wtsa/matrix <https://www.internetsociety.org/wtsa/matrix> ISOC WTSA page - https://www.internetsociety.org/WTSA <https://www.internetsociety.org/WTSA> (includes blogs posts from WTSA-16) ITU WTSA-16 Draft Proceedings URL: https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/wtsa16/Documents/WTSA16_Draft_Proceedings_E.pdf <WTSA-16%20Draft%20Proceedings%20%0DURL:%20https:/www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/wtsa1…> Best, <WTSA-16%20Draft%20Proceedings%20%0DURL:%20https:/www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/wtsa1…> ------------------------------ Elizabeth Oluoch Policy Advisor Internet Society Oluoch(a)isoc.org ------------------------------ Reply to Sender : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&SenderKey… Reply to Discussion : https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/PostReply/?GroupId=67&MID=13309… To Download the attachment(s) click on the link below: https://connect.internetsociety.org/eGroups/ViewAttachment/?DocumentKey=89b… (if the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into your web browser) ------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to "Open Forum" as otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com. To change your subscriptions, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/preferences?section=Subscriptions&MDATE=…. To unsubscribe from this community discussion, go to http://connect.internetsociety.org/HigherLogic/eGroups/Unsubscribe.aspx?Use…. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Re: [kictanet] Facebook's real risk
by Moses Karanja 23 Nov '16

23 Nov '16

I think the biggest tragedy we face, not just as Kenyans but as humans, is the behavior of teaming with only those we agree with. This takes two levels. *Consciously:* Some shares a news item on your timeline about a topic you find disgusting. You unfriend or unfollow them. *Unconsciously:* Social network algorithms study your behavior and show you those things they think you 'like'. The end result is you have a busy social media life but you are only interacting with those who look like you. We end up with very weak social genes thanks to 'digital in-breeding'. Individuals can work on the first one - a very steep socialization process though. The issue is the second level; can social networks rewrite their algorithms to bring diversity to their subscribers at the cost of weakened business models that depend on engagement and personalization of online experiences. This is not a simple problem and even if Facebook fixes the 'Fake News' problem, this 'digital in-breeding' will still lurk with us, not forgetting that other social media platforms have a responsibility too. -Moses On 21/11/2016 18:14, kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Facebook's real risk (Ali Hussein) > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

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