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Internet and ......beijing ticket scam - is this governed at all?].......
by alice 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Dear all An interesting discussion (see below from the global internet governance list)on the security of the internet a major scam site called www.beijingticketing.com many have lost money and it still appears on google searches. It does brings to fore issues of trust for us in Kenya. With state of the art broadband coming soon to the room next to you, I wonder about the level of trust/confidence people have on the internet/computers/mobile phones? this will be an issue when it comes to widespread acceptance of all the ICT initiatives we are about to roll out when TEAMS comes. If Kenyans do not feel confident about using the internet for example, will it affect adoption of e-transactions and indeed e-government applications and what can we do to ensure people understand cybercrime and privacy/security? best alice -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [governance] beijing ticket scam - is this governed at all? Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:20:55 -0700 From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org,"Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org, Ian Peter <ian.peter(a)ianpeter.com> CC: GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov>, DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov> References: <08b901c8f60f$9a70df90$8b00a8c0@IAN> Ian and all, No information at all here. But you might want to send in a complaint to DOC/NTIA as the the particulars that you have. Ian Peter wrote: > Some time about March this year a major scam site called > www.beijingticketing.com > > was apparently first exposed as fraudulent but not too many people > took any notice Today it is all over the news as many people have > purchased fake Olympic tickets and lost their money. > > But what surprises me is that, a good 8 hours after major news stories > about the site, it is still operating as I write this message. And it > still appears in Google search results. > > Very interested in analysis of why this is so when it is a known major > fraud site that has victims in many countries. Is there any mechanism > to stop major international scams? Or is it just a matter of waiting > until everyone else wakes up? Apparently there is a court case > in California today to close down the site? Is this because the > registry or the registrar is located in the USA? > > An interesting case study for the workshop on transboundary issues! > Very interested in more information if anyone has it. > > Ian Peter > > Ian Peter and Associates Pty Ltd > > PO Box 10670 Adelaide StBrisbane 4000 > > Australia > > Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773 > > www.ianpeter.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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ISPs and Bandwidth
by wesley kiriinya 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hey, I was wondering whether it's possible for ISPs to be forced under a law (which can be enacted if one doesn't exist) to host applications on their servers that clients can use to check how much bandwidth the client is recieving. I believe it's very unfortunate when ISPs say they are giving a client x bandwidth but the client is experiencing far much less. Isn't that stealing? Bottom line is that the clients need some assurance as to what they are paying for. o_O?

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Mailing List problems: Bouncing/Unsubscription Issue
by Brian Munyao Longwe 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Dear all, Please note that for what seems to be the past 72 hours the KICTANET mailing list server has been experiencing problems that have led it to trigger a feature that automatically unsubscribes mailing list members. Without going into too much detail, the listserv is hosted by a local ISP who has provided a couple of "outgoing" servers that it relays mail through. One of these has had issues and been illegitimately bouncing back messages to the KICTANET server. If you receive a message asking you to confirm your subscription by clicking on a link, please do while you are online and your normal subscription will continue. We apologise for these technical issues and are working with the ISP in question to have them resolved as soon as possible. Best regards, Brian Munyao Longwe Chair, KICTANET

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Re: [kictanet] ISPs and Bandwidth: CCK Problem
by James Kagwe 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

This problem of sharing bandwidth is especially worse in buildings using a common infrastructure e.g. WIMAX or fiber. There is no QOS with almost all these providers and during peak hours all the users experience terrible slow down. The providers will mostly woo you by telling you of possibilities of getting even higher bandwidth than you're paying for when traffic is low, but this only happens in the evenings and over the weekends. Internet is however critical to a business during working hours when real business is transacted and real work done. I think it's only good policies and proper enforcement methods that can help us out in this one. But even worse is the way the SLA's for the provisioning of internet are done. Th common practice is where the ISP's does the document while the customer / consumer just sign it. I think there is need for this practice and role to be reversed so that the consumer does the SLA and ensures there are means to measure whether the ISP is keeping to their part of the bargain and what to do when in violation of the agreement. Otherwise for now they have been having their cake and eating it at the same time, as they are the players and also set the rules of the game. CCK can do this, but there's a need for greater technical capacity to enforce it. Regards ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of wesley kiriinya Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:07 PM To: James Kagwe Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISPs and Bandwidth: CCK Problem I should also add that we should accept that the said bandwidth will not always be constant, but a certain acceptable margin should be guaranteed. For example someone signing up for 512 may not receive less than about 400. For some businesses where bandwidth is critical then a smaller variance may apply. I've also heard that the 512 (or whichever amount of bandwidth) can be shared. As long as a client is aware of sharing and s/he knows the net bandwidth they should recieve and the variance to expect, and the client goes ahead and signs the contract then no problem. All in all it's a serious issue that leads to a lot of losses when employees can't work because net is down or too slow. If there was a sturdy on this I wouldn't be surprised if the economy is loosing lots(billions) of money. Also consider companies that are afraid to come into the country because of this bandwidth issue. Regards. --- On Fri, 8/1/08, waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> wrote: From: waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ISPs and Bandwidth: CCK Problem To: kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 12:44 PM Wesley - Your concern is an important one, especially for consumers. I agree with what Mhseshimiwa Rege said yesterday that CCK needs to take more seriously its obligations of ensuring service providers and operators meet obligatory service levels. I do not think that ISPs or other operators/service providers can police themselves. A service like Telkom's ADSL is another example that Kenyans are willing to live with extreme complacency. This service takes to another level what was taught at University that data communications are "bursty", Sometimes you will be lucky to get a few "bursts" in an hour. Two weeks ago our office even lost the ADSL service for about 5 days and yet we are paying a fixed charge of 9,188/= per month. CCK needs to move beyond issuing licences and do its duty under law to ensure that the licensees are meeting the Service levels. This is the only way consumers (who are often ignorant of what to expect) can be protected. Waudo On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT), "wesley kiriinya" <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> said: Hey, I was wondering whether it's possible for ISPs to be forced under a law (which can be enacted if one doesn't exist) to host applications on their servers that clients can use to check how much bandwidth the client is recieving. I believe it's very unfortunate when ISPs say they are giving a client x bandwidth but the client is experiencing far much less. Isn't that stealing? Bottom line is that the clients need some assurance as to what they are paying for. o_O? People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).

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U.S. Intends to Remain in Full Control of Internet Root Zone and more
by alice 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

1. US: We Will Not Give Up Oversight Of Internet Domain Name Root Zone The Bush administration has no intention of giving up United States oversight role of the management of the central root zone of the internet domain name system (DNS), the essential database storing information on how to reach domain names on the global internet. http://ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=1185 2. U.S. Intends to Remain in Full Control of Internet Root Zone, Says Letter from NTIA In a letter sent by bureau of the U.S. Department of Commerce, National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) to ICANN, the department has made it clear that despite recent discussions in Paris meetings, the U.S. department intends to remain in full authority over the Internet root zone. http://www.circleid.com/posts/87315_us_in_control_of_internet_root_zone/ 3. Public Comments: Improving Institutional Confidence in ICANN Dear Chairman Dengate-Thrush: On June 16, 2008, the ICANN posted for public comment a series of interrelated documents prepared by the President's Strategy Committee (PSC) regarding improving institutional confidence in ICANN. The Department of Commerce (Department) takes this opportunity as a member of the community and ICANN's partner in the Joint Project Agreement (JPA) to offers its views on such an important topic. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/comments/2008/ICANN_080730.html 4. Egypt / ICANN meeting [news release] The Government of Egypt has the honor to host, in Cairo, the next ICANN meeting, from 2 to 7 November 2008, at InterContinental CityStars Hotel. The ICANN meeting was previously hosted in Cairo in March 2000, by the Egyptian Ministry of Communications, the Cabinet Information and Decision Support Center (IDSC) and the Internet Society of Egypt. http://appablog.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/egypt-icann-meeting-2/ 5. ICANN To Offload Domains from De-Accredited Registrar When RegisterFly lost its ICANN accreditation, GoDaddy swooped in to take over the registration of RegisterFly clients' domain names. It was a nice pickup for GoDaddy of nearly 1 million domain names. http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/31/icann-to-offload-domains-from-de-accre… ********************** - ccTLD & gTLD NEWS ********************** 6. Olympic organisers agree to China blocking 'sensitive' internet sites Olympic organisers 'regret' agreement to restrictions but China claims censorship will not affect reporting of Beijing 2008 ... Chinese officials said the censorship would not hamper journalists in their job of reporting the Games. A BOCOG spokesman Sun Weide said that the plan had always been to provide "sufficient" Internet access for foreign reporters. Sites run by the Falun Gong religious sect remain inaccessible, as do most with the word Tibet in their internet address. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4431162.ece 7. Personalize your domain using .ME The .ME Registry officially opened for live, real-time registrations and was met with huge international demand. .ME after .com, .biz, .eduis spreading around the world with more than 50,000 new domain names with the first "live" name registered being: yusu.me. http://www.ciol.com/Developer/Enterprise-Tools/News-Reports/Personalize-you… 8. Barack Obama Goes .Mobi United States Presidential candidate Barack Obama is leveraging the mobile web to get his message out. His campaign is using ObamaMobile.mobi. And unlike most popular .mobi domain names, it actually resolves to a .mobi domain rather than just forwarding to a mobile version of a .com we site. http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/29/barack-obama-goes-mobi/ 9. Dot-na Doman Remains Hot Potato THE controversy surrounding Namibia's Internet domain name (.na) is not likely to die down soon, given the recent formation of a new Ministry of Information and Communication Technology. http://www.namibian.com.na/2008/July/national/081AFB7980.html http://allafrica.com/stories/200807310688.html 10. InternetNZ selects web advocate board members InternetNZ has appointed four members to its executive board, formed earlier this year as part of a structural review of the society in order to act as an advocate for internet users. http://www.itbrief.co.nz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2464&Ite… 11. The WashBiz Guest Blog: A Day At .ORG Welcome to Day 2 of our little experiment in guest blogging, something we hope captures a small slice of Washington at work. All this week we plan to run posts from Adam Palmer, policy counsel for .ORG, the Public Interest Registry based in Reston. Adam works on policy issues dealing with Internet governance, cyber security, and e-commerce. Today, he talks about what one actually does at .org. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/washbizblog/2008/07/the_washbiz_guest_blog_a… 12. UCC abandons attempt to control Uganda domain name The Uganda Communications Commission (UCC) says it is not interested in taking over control of the Uganda country code, .ug. The country code is registered to and controlled by Charles Musisi, an Internet entrepreneur who has managed Uganda domain names over the past 12 years. http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=736&… 13. Number of domains in the UZ zone exceeds 7,000 The number of domains registered in the .UZ zone exceeded 7,000 as of 25 July, the administration of the .UZ domain zone said. According to the statistics, the number has grown by about 22% from 5,766 since the beginning of the year. http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=58005 ********************** - DNS SECURITY ********************** 14. DNS patches cause problems, developers admit Patches released earlier this month to quash a critical bug in the DNS (Domain Name System) have slowed servers running BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain), the Internet's most popular DNS software, and crippled some systems versions of Windows Server. http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&article… http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/07/29/DNS_patches_cause_problems_develo… http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/EA56EA85FA872164CC257496000F71E7 15. Apple skewered over missing DNS patch Apple has come under fire for failing to patch the critical Domain Name System (DNS) flaw which prompted a (rest of) industry wide response earlier this month. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/29/apple_dns_patch_mia/ 16. With Security at Risk, a Push to Patch the Web Since a secret emergency meeting of computer security experts at Microsoft's headquarters in March, Dan Kaminsky has been urging companies around the world to fix a potentially dangerous flaw in the basic plumbing of the Internet. http://nytimes.com/2008/07/30/technology/30flaw.html http://iht.com/articles/2008/07/30/technology/30flaw.php 17. Hackers start DNS attacks, researcher says Hackers are now actively exploiting a critical flaw in the Domain Name System, but they're not using any of the already known exploits, said a researcher who crafted the first attack code to go public. http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&article… 18. Internet providers in Vietnam battle DNS flaw Local internet service providers (ISPs) say they are taking action to overcome a serious flaw inherent in the Domain Name System (DNS) that could allow an attacker to re-direct unwilling web users to dangerous sites. http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2008/07/796258/ ********************** - MISCELLANEOUS ********************** 19. Asia Pacific Internet Community to descend on Christchurch - NZ to host APNIC 26 [news release] Next month, InternetNZ (the Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) and the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) will jointly host APNIC 26, one of the most important meetings in 2008 for the local Internet community. http://www.internetnz.net.nz/media/2008/apnicevent 20. InternetNZ appoints Executive Board members [news release] InternetNZ (the Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) is pleased to announce it has appointed Peter Dengate-Thrush, June McCabe, Miki Szikszai, and Judy Speight as members of its recently-established Executive Board. http://www.internetnz.net.nz/media/2008/execboard 21. InternetNZ launches Liz Dengate Thrush Foundation [news release] InternetNZ (the Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) is pleased to announce the launch of an Internet entrepreneurship foundation established in memory of Liz Dengate Thrush, a former Councillor of the Society. http://www.internetnz.net.nz/media/2008/ldtf 22. Barack Obama Goes .Mobi United States Presidential candidate Barack Obama is leveraging the mobile web to get his message out. His campaign is using ObamaMobile.mobi. And unlike most popular .mobi domain names, it actually resolves to a .mobi domain rather than just forwarding to a mobile version of a .com we site. http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/29/barack-obama-goes-mobi/ 23. Why We'll Never Replace SMTP by John Levine John Levine An acquaintance asked whether there's been any progress in the oft-rumored project to come up with a more secure replacement for SMTP. Answer: No. Truly, spam isn't a technical problem, it's a social one. If we could figure out some way to make mail recipient networks and hosts willing to shun known bad actors, even at the cost of losing some real mail for a while until the bad actors cave, it would make vastly more difference than any possible technical changes. http://www.circleid.com/posts/replacing_smtp/ 24. Emirates airline website plummets offline in A380 excitement Dubai's government-owned airline, Emirates, forgot to renew its domain name this week, sending its website crashing offline on the same day it was trumpeting delivery of its first Airbus A380 superjumbo. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/31/emirates_domain_loss/ ********************** - DOMAINING & AFTERMARKET ********************** 25. Find an Undervalued Asset. Fix It Up. Flip It. (Now It's Web Sites, Not Houses) Dave Hermansen did not own a bird or a cage when he bought bird-cage.com, an online store, for $1,800 three years ago. He simply saw a Web site that was "very, very poorly done," and begged the owners to sell it to him. He then redesigned the site, added advertising and drove up traffic. Last December, he sold it for $173,000. http://nytimes.com/2008/07/29/technology/29flip.html 26. Matt Bentley Leaving Sedo Sedo Chief Strategy Officer Matt Bentley is leaving the company, Sedo announced today. The move is effective the end of this month. http://domainnamewire.com/2008/07/29/matt-bentley-leaving-sedo/ 27. Imminent Domaining: The domain name market is a hot investment opportunity for entrepreneurs. One hundred domains. Sounds like a good, round, impressive number. And 100 felt like a lot for Howard Hoffman, who began snapping up domains like HealthWater.com and SportsWater.com to help redirect web surfers to his bottled water company's site, taking advantage of what's called "type-in traffic," when users just enter words or a guessed-at domain into the browser address bar. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25932453/ 28. Moniker/Snapnames accidentally sell the wrong domain Imagine the following scenario: A registrant owns a .NET version of your .COM domain and decides to list it with SnapNames. However he mistypes the domain by entering the .COM version in the spreadsheet he sends to his account manager. http://www.domainnamenews.com/registrars/monikersnapnames-accidentally-sell… 29. Crash Course Guide to Domain Name Appraisals Ever looked for new domains to buy in auctions, pending delete, or expired? I'm sure all of us have some difficulty appraising the value of domains. The process is both easy and hard at the same time, especially when considering the long term value and not necessarily the present value. Grabbing a domain name now that holds a potential-value in the future is a real-niche and requires some strategy. Though the remaining names market and especially the gTLDs (Generic Top Level Domain Extensions, e.g. .COM/.NET/.ORG) is saturated and sometimes impossible to get a nice ones but there are some techniques to grab excellent and superior names using some technique we had successfully put on trial and lead us successfully to acquire many domains such as EVERNET.com and PreLanding.com. In this article, I will be highlighting some quick techniques to evaluate domains for the present or near-future resale value. http://www.dotsauce.com/2008/07/31/domain-name-appraisals/ 30. Google makes 6 Figure Offer for KNOL.com For a vacuum cleaner reseller from Dordrecht in the Netherlands, Europe, this week may very well be the time of their life!. The family Knol have been the owner of the domain name knol.com for many years and it looks like Google is interested in purchasing the domain! Google has reportedly offered "a sum of five zeros." http://www.domainnews.com/en/general/google-makes-a-5-figure-offer-for-knol… ********************** - NON-ENGLISH NEWS ********************** 31. Österreicher lieben heimische Domains "Die .com-Ära ist vorbei – wir leben in einem Zeitalter des lokalen Internets, wo regionale Anker immer wichtiger werden", bringt nic.at-Geschäftsführer Richard Wein das Hauptergebnis der Domain-Studie 2008 auf den Punkt. Die im Mai vom Meinungsforschungsinstitut Marketagent durchgeführte Befragung der webaktiven Bevölkerung in Östereich zeigt: ".at" ist im Vormarsch und mit Abstand am beliebtesten bei heimischen Internetnutzern. http://www.computerwelt.at/detailArticle.asp?a=116636&n=5 32. DNS-Lücke in Mac OS X weiter ungepatcht Drei Wochen nach Bekanntwerden der Sicherheitslücke im Domain Name System (DNS) hat Apple bisher noch kein Update für Mac OS X veröffentlicht. "Apple nutzt den populären BIND-DNS-Server des Internet Systems Consortium (ISC) für Mac OS X Server. Obwohl der BIND-Server zu den ersten Anwendungen gehört, für die ein Update zur Verfügung stand, hat Apple die korrigierte Version noch nicht für Mac OS X Server freigegeben", kritisiert der Sicherheitsforscher Rich Mogull in einem Blogeintrag. http://www.zdnet.de/security/news/0,39029460,39194237,00.htm 33. Online-Reisen im Schatten der Typosquatter Reisen werden mittlerweile sehr gerne online gebucht. Netnames, Spezialist für Domainnamen-Management, warnt in diesem Zusammenhang: Schon ein unbedachter Tippfehler in der Internetadresse und Kunden laufen Gefahr, in die Fänge so genannter Typosquatter zu geraten. "Beim Tippen der Domainnamen schleicht sich, egal, ob aus Unwissenheit oder durch die allgemeine Vorurlaubshektik, so mancher Fehler ein. Wollen Reiseanbieter, die das Internet als Vertriebskanal nutzen, potenzielle Kunden nicht verlieren und sich vor Online-Betrügern schützen, gibt es ein einfaches Rezept: Sie können dafür sorgen, dass selbst die nicht ganz korrekte Schreibweise der URL zum richtigen Ziel führt", rät Bernd Beiser, Geschäftsführer der Netnames nicht gänzlich uneigennützig. Unternehmen sollten sich daher auch Domainnamen sichern, die gängige Tippfehler oder Buchstabendreher enthalten. http://www.computerwelt.at/detailArticle.asp?a=116615&n=4 34. Olympisches Komitee akzeptiert Internetzensur in China Kürzlich sprach IOC-Präsident Rogge noch von einem "unzensierten Zugang zum Internet" zu den Spielen in Peking. Ein leeres Versprechen, denn die Zensur geht weiter, auch für die chinesischen DW-WORLD-Seiten. ... Um beispielsweise einen Zugriff auf die Seiten www.dw-world.de/chinese unmöglich zu machen, wird unter anderem verhindert, dass Browser-Eingaben wie www.dw-world.de/chinese mit einem sogenannten Domain Name Server (DNS) in die technisch notwendige Zieladresse in Form einer IP-Adresse (194.55.30.46) übersetzt werden. Gleichzeitig wird der Zugriff auf diese Server-Adressen blockiert, so dass Internet-Anwender auch mit der direkten Eingabe der IP-Adresse nicht zum Ziel kommen. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3524889,00.html 35. Wie China unliebsame Websites blockiert Was den Journalisten im Pressezentrum der Olympischen Spiele in Peking widerfährt, ist im Rest des Landes Alltag: In der Volksrepublik China - mit Ausnahme von Hongkong und Macao - gibt es keinen freien Zugang zum Internet, unliebsame Inhalte lassen die Machthaber blockieren. ... Will man eine Adresse wie «amnesty.org» mit dem Browser aufrufen, muss dieser Name erst in eine für Computer verwendbare, eindeutige Nummernkombination übersetzt werden - die IP-Adresse. Diese Aufgabe erledigen Domain Name Server, welche die Internet Provider betreiben. Die Unternehmen können mit Filtern verhindern, dass die Datenbanken die IP-Adressen regimekritischer Portale ausliefern. http://www.ov-online.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=129170&It… http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/detail.php/rmn01.c.5014507.de/v2_rmn_sport… http://www.digitalfernsehen.de/news/news_381044.html 36. Internet-Tippfehler können schnell teuer werden Der britische Domainspezialist Netnames ist ein Unternehmen, das sich auf die Fahne geschrieben hat, Firmenidentitäten und Marken vor Domainmissbrauch zu schützen. http://www.channelpartner.de/knowledgecenter/security/263772/index.html 37. Ist der Provider sicher? [DPA] Auf eine besonders tückische Sicherheitslücke bei der Internetnutzung macht das Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (BSI) in Bonn aufmerksam. Die Lücke besteht im sogenannten Domain Name System (DNS) und betrifft daher potenziell alle Nutzer. http://www.pcwelt.de/start/sicherheit/sicherheitsluecken/news/173581/expert… http://www.n-tv.de/Erst_Update_dann_Virus_Ist_der_Provider_sicher/310720080… 38. Sicherheitslücke: Das Virus kommt per Update Auf eine tückische Sicherheitslücke bei der Internetnutzung macht das Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (BSI) in Bonn aufmerksam. Die Lücke besteht im sogenannten Domain Name System (DNS) und betrifft daher potenziell alle Nutzer. http://www.volksstimme.de/vsm/magazin/digital/digital_news/?&em_cnt=1118023 39. UDRP : la Czech Arbitration Court veut lancer un projet pilote La Czech Arbitration Court (CAC), accréditée comme institution de règlement depuis le 23 janvier 2008, a saisi l'ICANN d'une requête visant à lui permettre d'expérimenter un projet pilote. http://domainesinfo.fr/actualite/1598/udrp-la-czech-arbitration-court-veut-… 40. Express.com : transfert judiciaire d'un nom "hijacké" Après avoir perdu le contrôle du nom de domaine express.com dans des conditions relativement mystérieuses, une société américaine en obtient le transfert devant le juge californien. http://domainesinfo.fr/actualite/1590/express-com-transfert-judiciaire-d-un… 41. Perfectionnement du DRS de Nominet L'institution de règlement des litiges relatifs au .UK a procédé à un ajustement du DRS, faisant de cette procédure un modèle du genre. http://domainesinfo.fr/actualite/1600/perfectionnement-de-la-drs-nominet.php 42. Internet: i domini del registro italiano sono milione e mezzo I domini internet del registro italiano (.it) hanno superato il milione e mezzo con un picco massimo diregistrazioni nel maggio scorso. Si rafforza così la posizione della rete "made in Italy", che conquista così ilquinto posto in Europa ed ilsettimo nel mondo. http://www.nove.firenze.it/vediarticolo.asp?id=a8.07.30.13.56 43. Argentina: Nombres de dominio internacionalizados. Resolución 616/2008. Resolución 616/2008 - REGISTRACION DE NOMBRES DE DOMINIO EN INTERNET. Incorpóranse caracteres multilingües pertenecientes al idioma español y portugués, para la registración de nombres de dominio de Nivel Superior Argentina (.AR). http://www.leandrotoscano.com/2008/07/argentina-nombres-de-dominio.html 44. Aprueban los caracteres en español para dominios web El Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores aprobó los signos en castellano y portugués en la registración de los nombres de dominio de internet de la Argentina. http://www.derf.com.ar/despachos.asp?cod_des=213889&ID_Seccion=21 45. Encuentro LACNIC-CARIBE, se realizó en Curazao, 21-22 de Julio/2008 Más de 70 participantes provenientes de más de 15 países de la región de América Latina y el Caribe se reunieron los 21 y 22 de Julio en Curazao (Antillas Neerlandesas) en el encuentro LACNIC-CARIBE. El encuentro fue seguido por el 4to Foro de Gobernanza de Internet en el Caribe organizado por la Unión de Telecomunicaciones del Caribe (CTU) y contó con el apoyo de la Oficina de Telecomunicaciones y Correo (Bureau of Telecommunication and Post) de Curazao. http://www.latinoamericann.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=articl… 46. Incorporan caracteres multilingües a dominios de internet El Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores, Comercio Internacional y Culto incorporó los caracteres multilingües de los idiomas español y portugués en la registración de los nombres de dominio de internet de Argentina, según publica hoy el Boletín Oficial. http://www.lacapital.com.ar/contenidos/2008/07/31/noticia_0018.html http://www.territoriodigital.com/nota.aspx?c=2778576382109578 http://ar.news.yahoo.com/s/31072008/40/n-argentina-incorporan-caracteres-mu… 47. Story in Vietnamese on DNS http://vn.news.yahoo.com/vne/20080730/ttc-p-a-viet-nam-a-khac-phuc-uoc-60-w… _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

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Cloud computing - moving the country ahead
by wesley kiriinya 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Good Furahi-day Gentlmen & Ladies, I believe the govenment, parastatals, related agencies and private organizations like financial institutions e.g. CMA, should consider cloud computing as a way to move Kenya ahead. Why? I will answer that briefly with some examples. 1. Any organization (e.g. NGOs) who wants to transact with govenment can link with their Web Service applications. A Web Service application is a piece of software that runs on a server. It encapsulates the business rules of an organization and it is specialized in performing a particular function. More than one Web Service application can be used to create an entire business process. Institutions have rules and services that they provide and sometimes it's not really their interest to act on those rules i.e. they can create rules meant to be followed by other institutions/organizations, these are good candidates for Web Service applications. For example the ministry of immigration can host a Web Service application that simply maintains the records of people in Kenya, and any other institution (e.g. banks) that wants access to this information knows where the official place for getting the information is. Therefore software running in the bank meant should link with the Web Service application from the immigration department to obtain people's records. This point is very summarized. I would encourage you to open your mind and think of the possibilities. One of the basic ideas here is Separation of Concerns i.e. do what you are meant to do and do it well! 2. It is independent of the platform on which the Web services/cloud computing is taking place. 3. There is great investment in the local fibre connection and in the next few years it seems network connection will be very good. 4. Business for data centers. 5. It is local content! 6. It is cheaper to build and maintain. One barrier might be whether the current software systems bought (by government) can be easily configured to work in a cloud computing environment, i.e. having the software run as web services. If these systems were done locally (apart from the obvious gains of employment, utilizing the country's knowlegable workforce, encouraging research in higher education institutions, etc) adjusting them to new technology is convinient and the client buying the software is bound to Kenyan law and not the laws of the country where the software originated. Another advantage of going local is that foreign companies that charge expensively for their software might be reluctant to adjust the software to work with technology that is cheaper for the client and in this case Web Services are probably cheaper as refactoring (changing) the software is less complex because the components are loosely coupled. This is a big topic and I should probably write a proper/formal paper on this but due to time I cannot, though if anyone manages to write one have the courtesy to credit me (if u got the idea from this email). Regards. 8~)

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Cloud computing - moving the country ahead
by wesley kiriinya 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

Good Furahi-day Gentlmen & Ladies, I believe the govenment, parastatals, related agencies and private organizations like financial institutions e.g. CMA, should consider cloud computing as a way to move Kenya ahead. Why? I will answer that briefly with some examples. 1. Any organization (e.g. NGOs) who wants to transact with govenment can link with their Web Service applications. A Web Service application is a piece of software that runs on a server. It encapsulates the business rules of an organization and it is specialized in performing a particular function. More than one Web Service application can be used to create an entire business process. Institutions have rules and services that they provide and sometimes it's not really their interest to act on those rules i.e. they can create rules meant to be followed by other institutions/organizations, these are good candidates for Web Service applications. For example the ministry of immigration can host a Web Service application that simply maintains the records of people in Kenya, and any other institution (e.g. banks) that wants access to this information knows where the official place for getting the information is. Therefore software running in the bank meant should link with the Web Service application from the immigration department to obtain people's records. This point is very summarized. I would encourage you to open your mind and think of the possibilities. One of the basic ideas here is Separation of Concerns i.e. do what you are meant to do and do it well! 2. It is independent of the platform on which the Web services/cloud computing is taking place. 3. There is great investment in the local fibre connection and in the next few years it seems network connection will be very good. 4. Business for data centers. 5. It is local content! 6. It is cheaper to build and maintain. One barrier might be whether the current software systems bought (by government) can be easily configured to work in a cloud computing environment, i.e. having the software run as web services. If these systems were done locally (apart from the obvious gains of employment, utilizing the country's knowlegable workforce, encouraging research in higher education institutions, etc) adjusting them to new technology is convinient and the client buying the software is bound to Kenyan law and not the laws of the country where the software originated. Another advantage of going local is that foreign companies that charge expensively for their software might be reluctant to adjust the software to work with technology that is cheaper for the client and in this case Web Services are probably cheaper as refactoring (changing) the software is less complex because the components are loosely coupled. This is a big topic and I should probably write a proper/formal paper on this but due to time I cannot, though if anyone manages to write one have the courtesy to credit me (if u got the idea from this email). Regards. 8~)

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Fwd: NSE @ Week 31
by Bill Kagai 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

MediaCorp (c) Empowering Investors** *Global Overview* MediaCorp last week finalised an agreement setting ground for establishment of MediaCorp [UG] Ltd which will now be housed on Plot3, Pan Africa House along Kimathi Avenue in Kampala. This will help us serve our Uganda Clients better and also provide Kenyan investors with better intelligence on the Uganda financial market. MediaCorp [TZ] and MediaCorp Dubai Offices will also be operational by December 2008. Dubai is increasingly becoming the *financial hub closest to Nairobi *and quickly overtaking Johannesburg's relevance more so, due to easier requirements for visa processing and larger capital base supporting the emerging new economy in East Africa. MediaCorp in collaboration with our partner in Dubai will soon be releasing new indices to gauge investment coming from Asia/Middle East into East Africa. As Africa continues to privatise national assets in line with *structural policies of the Bretton Woods institutions*, the mortgage crisis in America which has hit banks severely *prompts new thinking on how effective this strategy really is*. In an election year, the U.S. Congress approved a massive housing market rescue bill on Saturday, offering emergency financing to mortgage titans Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and setting up a USD 300-billion fund to help hundreds of thousands of troubled homeowners. Though this eases but not ends the crisis, it does prove how critical Government involvement is in sensitive facets of the economy. Private finance in mortgages has simply been withdrawn, and *the bill seeks to empower Treasury/Government to buy shares into these companies should they run into trouble*. In other words, Nationalisation has gripped America through the back door and serves as a lesson to African Governments in a hurry to release national assets to private companies who will quickly fold in when signs of economic distress become visible. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac problems can easily be compared to Rift Valley Railways which is clearly on its deathbed should the Government fail to intervene. Running the port and railway as one unit could be the solution East Africa should be pursuing. Globally, stocks behaved badly. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI fell 1.1 percent and the Standard & Poor's 500 Index .SPX slipped 0.2 percent. In contrast, the Nasdaq Composite Index gained 1.2 percent. Britain's blue-chip FTSE index ended 0.2 percent lower on Friday, as banking and insurance stocks fell on a gloomy economic outlook, outweighing gains in commodities and retail sector shares. In Hong Kong and Tokyo, stocks fell by 2% though both markets reported the best weekly gains in 3 months. *Local Highlights* Nothing much to write home about in the local market. Turnover this week declined to Kshs.2.3bn from the previous week's Kshs.5.6bn. The number of shares traded stood at 228M against 231M posted the previous week. The NSE 20-share index was down 1.24% during the week to close at 4963.46 points. The NSE All share index shaved-off a total of 0.23 points during the week to stand at 105.71. *Dividends Update* BAT • 1st & Final Dividend: 4.50/= • Payment: 5-Sep-08 Olympia • Dividend: 0.20/= • Payment: 11-Aug-08 • Books closed: 23-Jul-08 Centum • 1st & Final Dividend: 0.45/= • Books close: 7-Aug-08 • Payment: 16-Oct-08 Kapchorua • 1st & Final Dividend: 0.50/= • Books close: 25-Jul-08 Williamson Tea • 1st & Final Dividend: 0.50/= • Books close: 25-Jul-08 Kenya Airways • 1st & Final Dividend: 1.75/= • Payment: 24-Oct-08 Agriculture sector traded 187,000 shares, which accounted for 0.08% of the week's traded volume. Sasini was the most heavily traded counter in this sector, with 142,000 shares changing hands at between shs.12.80 and shs.14.00. Rea-vipingo unchanged at shs.18.70 moved 41,000 shares. Commercials had 209M shares traded, which accounted for 91.95% of the week's traded volume. Safaricom Ltd was the week's biggest mover with 204M shares dealt at between shs.6.20 and shs.6.95. CMC Holdings eased fifteen cents to close the week at shs.19.85 on a volume of 2.8M shares. Financials had 9.8M shares traded and represented 4.29% of the week's volume. Equity Bank down 0.32% to shs.307.00 moved 879,000 shares despite Kshs 3 Billion in profit for H1. KCB actively moved 3.5M shares at between shs.29.50 and shs.31.00. Centum Investment down 4.81% to shs.24.75 moved 1.6M shares. Industrial sector had 8.1M shares, which accounted for 3.59% of the week's volume. KenGen moved 3M shares during the week and closed at shs.24.50. Mumias Sugar moved 3M shares at between shs.11.00 and shs.12.00. Alternative Investment Segment moved 209,000 shares, which accounted for less than 1% of the week's traded volume. Express Ltd down 0.51% to shs.19.40 sold 200,000 shares. *NSE Highlights* * * * * *18th July* *21st July* *22nd July* *23rd July* *24th July* *25th July* *Price Change * *Price Change * *Shares Traded Last Week* *Total Shares Issued* *Agricultural* *Code* *Unilever Tea* *UNLV* 45.00 45.00 45.00 0.00 0.00% - 48,875,000 *Kakuzi* *KAKZ* 34.50 40.00 39.75 35.00 35.00 0.50 1.45% 3,800 19,599,999 *Rea Vipingo* *RVPL* 18.70 19.80 19.40 18.75 18.75 18.70 0.00 0.00% 41,764 60,000,000 *Sasini* *STCL* 13.55 13.75 13.00 13.05 13.15 13.45 -0.10 -0.74% 142,150 228,055,500 * * * * *Commercial & Services* * * *Access Kenya Group* *AKGL* 34.25 35.50 35.50 32.50 34.75 33.00 -1.25 -3.65% 1,531,783 199,885,578 *Car & Gen* *CAGR* 52.50 50.00 51.00 50.50 51.00 -1.50 -2.86% 3,622 22,279,616 *CMC* *CMCH* 20.00 21.00 20.50 19.95 20.50 19.85 -0.15 -0.75% 2,854,852 582,709,440 *Hutchings Biemer* *HUBM* 20.25 20.25 0.00 0.00% - 360,000 *Kenya Airways Ltd* *KAIR* 48.50 49.00 48.50 47.75 48.75 47.50 -1.00 -2.06% 295,409 461,615,484 *Marshalls*** *MSHL* 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 0.00 0.00% 1,000 14,393,106 *Nation Media Group.* *NATN* 333.00 345.00 346.00 338.00 344.00 339.00 6.00 1.80% 64,589 71,305,260 *Safaricom* *SCOM* 6.20 6.30 6.90 6.45 6.95 6.35 0.15 2.42% 204,880,376 40,000,000,000 *Scangroup Ltd* *SCGP* 31.00 32.00 32.25 30.75 32.00 30.50 -0.50 -1.61% 301,324 160,000,000 *Standard Group Ltd * *STDG* 57.50 59.00 59.50 60.50 56.50 -1.00 -1.74% 12,961 73,275,029 *TPS Eastern Africa (Serena) Ltd* *TPEA* 69.00 69.00 68.50 67.50 69.50 68.50 -0.50 -0.72% 30,486 105,864,742 *Uchumi Supermarkets* *UCHM* 14.50 14.50 0.00 0.00% - 180,000,000 * * * * *Financial* * * *Barclays Bank* *BARC* 68.50 69.00 68.50 68.50 68.00 67.00 -1.50 -2.19% 442,420 1,357,884,000 *CFC Bank* *CFCB* 109.00 115.00 115.00 110.00 111.00 108.00 -1.00 -0.92% 32,599 273,684,211 *Diamond Trust* *DTBK* 94.50 95.00 95.00 94.00 95.00 94.50 0.00 0.00% 99,084 163,037,108 *Equity Bank Ltd* *EQTY* 308.00 306.00 307.00 302.00 307.00 307.00 -1.00 -0.32% 879,717 362,209,905 *Housing Finance* *HFCK* 30.00 32.25 30.50 28.75 28.50 28.75 -1.25 -4.17% 1,274,218 115,000,000 *Centum Limited* *CENT* 26.00 26.50 26.75 25.00 26.00 24.75 -1.25 -4.81% 1,642,000 549,951,880 *Jubilee Holdings Ltd* *JBLH* 181.00 185.00 185.00 177.00 185.00 179.00 -2.00 -1.10% 26,250 45,000,000 *KCB* *KCBL* 30.50 30.25 30.00 30.00 31.00 30.00 -0.50 -1.64% 3,524,598 *Kenya** Re* *KERE* 15.95 16.25 16.00 15.70 16.00 15.75 -0.20 -1.25% 1,239,485 600,000,000 *National Bank* *NBKL* 65.00 61.00 60.50 63.00 61.50 63.50 -1.50 -2.31% 398,706 200,000,000 *National Industrial Credit* *NICB* 58.00 58.50 58.00 56.00 57.50 56.00 -2.00 -3.45% 188,523 296,692,383 *Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Ltd* *PAIH* 73.00 70.00 70.00 70.00 70.00 -3.00 -4.11% 6,200 48,000,000 *Standard Chartered Bank* *SCBL* 202.00 204.00 205.00 200.00 208.00 201.00 -1.00 -0.50% 46,204 271,967,810 * * * * *Industrial & Allied* * * *Athi River Mining Ltd* *ARML* 113.00 105.00 106.00 112.00 108.00 112.00 -1.00 -0.88% 62,801 94,000,000 *BOC (K)* *BOCK* 160.00 160.00 0.00 0.00% - 19,525,446 *Bamburi* *BMBR* 195.00 195.00 192.00 192.00 192.00 190.00 -5.00 -2.56% 5,570 362,959,275 *British American Tobacco* *BATK* 158.00 164.00 161.00 160.00 161.00 159.00 1.00 0.63% 15,087 100,000,000 *Carbacid* *CARB* 137.00 137.00 0.00 0.00% - 11,326,755 *Crown Berger * *CRBG* 38.75 40.00 39.25 38.00 38.75 38.00 -0.75 -1.94% 31,400 23,727,000 *E.A.Cables* *EACL* 38.75 40.25 40.00 38.25 39.50 37.00 -1.75 -4.52% 172,983 202,500,000 *E.A.Portland* *EAPC* 115.00 110.00 108.00 -7.00 -6.09% 400 90,000,000 *E.A.Breweries* *EABL* 194.00 191.00 192.00 194.00 197.00 194.00 0.00 0.00% 393,464 790,774,356 *Eveready East Africa Ltd* *EEAL* 5.10 5.50 5.75 5.10 5.50 5.40 0.30 5.88% 199,650 210,000,000 *Kenol* *KOCL* 90.00 92.50 90.50 89.50 92.50 91.00 1.00 1.11% 670,257 147,176,120 *K.Pow.& L.* *KPLC* 203.00 206.00 201.00 198.00 201.00 191.00 -12.00 -5.91% 142,410 79,128,000 *KenGen* *KEGN* 24.00 23.50 23.25 23.50 23.25 24.50 0.50 2.08% 3,013,895 2,198,361,456 *Mumias* *MSCL* 11.65 12.15 11.95 11.65 11.55 11.20 -0.45 -3.86% 3,004,576 1,530,000,000 *Olympia** Capital Holdings* *OCHL* 15.20 15.20 15.35 14.95 15.10 14.55 -0.65 -4.28% 71,780 40,000,000 *Sameer Africa Ltd* *SAMR* 9.00 9.60 9.50 8.95 9.50 9.10 0.10 1.11% 218,859 278,342,393 *Total* *TOTL* 32.50 30.25 30.00 32.00 29.75 31.75 -0.75 -2.31% 149,600 175,064,706 *Unga* *UNGA* 12.60 13.45 12.65 12.60 12.75 12.45 -0.15 -1.19% 45,354 63,090,728 * * * * *Alternative Investment Market Sector (AIMS)* *A.Baumann* *ABCL* 11.10 11.10 0.00 0.00% - 3,840,066 *City Trust * *CITL* 135.00 148.00 150.00 133.00 -2.00 -1.48% 2,200 5,207,558 *Eaagads* *EAGD* 37.00 35.00 -2.00 -5.41% 4,800 8,039,250 *Express * *EXPK* 19.50 19.55 19.05 19.40 19.40 19.40 -0.10 -0.51% 200,306 35,403,790 *Williamson Tea* *WTKL* 73.00 73.00 73.00 75.00 2.00 2.74% 2,000 8,756,320 *Kapchorua* *KTCL* 75.00 78.00 80.00 78.00 75.00 0.00 0.00% - 3,912,000 *K.Orchads* *KEOL* 3.00 3.00 0.00 0.00% - 12,868,124 *Limuru Tea* *LTCL* 338.00 338.00 0.00 0.00% - 600,000 * * Bildad Kagai MD - MediaCorp Limited Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor Suite B2, Tetu Apartments, State House Avenue P. O. Box 20311 - 00200 Nairobi, Kenya Tel. 254 20 272 8332 Fax. Rendered Obsolete S - 1°17'13.8" E - 36°48'22.7" --- www.mediacorp.co.ke

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cocktail @6pm KICC
by Rebecca Wanjiku 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

The cocktail starts at 6pm, Ndemo, Njoroge (new DG), and Waweru (former DG) will be present Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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Live session update
by Rebecca Wanjiku 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

the sessions are going on very well..... there are 60 people following on the liveblog @ beckyit.blogspot.com Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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Material available online
by Rebecca Wanjiku 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

Just to let you know that all the presentations tomorrow will be uploaded to the website www.kictanet.or.ke after the forum Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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Liveblog session
by Rebecca Wanjiku 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

I am attempting to do a liveblog session..... check it out on beckyit.blogspot.com Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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Tomorrow's National ICT Stakeholders final program
by Rebecca Wanjiku 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

National ICT Stakeholders meeting to be held on 31st July 2008 at Kenya International Conference Centre – Tsavo B all Room 8:00 – 8:30 Registration 8.30 – 9:00 KICTANet – Introduction PS - Bitange Ndemo DG – Charles Njoroge 9:00- 9:30 TESPOK KENIC Skunk works Kenya ICT Board 9:30 – 9:45 Q&A 10- 10:30 Kenya Telecommunications Operators Form ICAK – ICT Consumer Association of Kenya Kenya Private Sector Alliance 10:30- 10:45 Q&A 10:45-11:00 Tea Break 11:00- 11:30 Kenya BPO & Contact Centre Kenya ICT Federation Linux Chix Kenya Software Industry Association (KSIA) 11:30- 11:45 Q & A 11:45 -12:30 ISACA - Information System Audit and Control Association E- Government NSCT Media Council 12:30 – 12:45 Centre for Corporate Governance 12:45 – 1:00 Q&A 1:00 – 2:00 Lunch 2:00 – 2:30 Computer Society of Kenya 2:30 – 3:00 Linux Professional Association Business Incubator Association of Kenya 3:00 – 3: 15 Q & A 3:00 – 3:45 Grant s Management – Githongo & Association 3:45 – 4:00 Q & A 4:00 – 4:30 EACIT4D Media Owners Vision 2030 4:30 – 5:30 Open mic 6:00 Cocktail COCKTAIL PARTY PROGRAM Overall MC – Bill Kagai 6:00 - 6: 15 Introduction 6:15 – 6:30 Eng. Waweru DG – CCK - Njoroge P.S Ndemo Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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[Fwd: NATINAL BUSINESS AGENDA, NBA ISSUES]
by alice 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Dear All, Kindly review the attached National Business Agenda, NBA draft in your respective sector and give us more input in order be included in the final NBA document to be presented in the Prime Ministers Round table meeting soon. We will appreciate, when we get the input at the soonest time. Best Regards, Anthony Wanjohi Weru, Kenya Private Sector Alliance, KEPSA Mamlaka Rd,Shelter Afrique Bldg, 2nd Flr, P. O. Box 3556-00100 - Nairobi Tel: 254-020-2730371/2 Fax: 254-020-2730374 Cell: 0735999979 / 0720340949 Personal: 0720 972782 Website: www.kepsa.or.ke

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National Stakeholders Forum, Thursday July 31st
by Rebecca Wanjiku 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Re: National Stakeholders Forum July 31st 2008 at the KICC The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) and the Kenya ICT Board wish to invite you to the national ICT stakeholders’ forum to be held on July 31st at the KICC from 8.00 am-5.30 pm. The forum will bring together the ICT industry stakeholders- software developers, industry experts, consumer organizations, government agencies, Internet Service Providers (ISPs) among others. All major associations will be given a chance to present about their organizations, their formation, and activities. The forum will also address corporate governance issues as well ways of creating synergy between the various players and the government. Bitange Ndemo, Permanent Secretary in the ministry of information and communication will open the meeting. The new Director-General of CCK, Mr. Charles Njoroge will also grace the occasion and interact with participants. Kindly confirm participation with Evelyne at Evelyne(a)kictanet.or.ke or 0204453671, 0204453672, 0728111018, 0737550003. Yours faithfully, Brian Munyao Longwe Chairman, KICTANet Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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Perceptions about Africa
by Brian Munyao Longwe 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

So here we are, working very hard to build knowledge societies, knowledge economies and bring 'e' into as many areas as possible. Achieving the highest levels of mobile growth than any other continent in the world. Providing the highest returns on any kind of investment into any sector than any other continent in the world. But here is how we are percieved: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/africa-is- giving-no thing-to-anyone--apart-from-aids-1430428.html What can we do about this? Troubled, Brian

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Program- National Stakeholders Meeting July 31st
by Rebecca Wanjiku 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

National ICT Stakeholders meeting to be held on 31st July 2008 at Kenya International Conference Centre Program 8:00 – 8:30 Registration 8.30 – 9:00 KICTANet – Introduction PS -Bitange Ndemo DG- Charles Njoroge 9:00- 9:30 TESPOK KENIC Skunkworks Computer Society of Kenya (CSK) 9:30 – 9:45 Q&A 10- 10:30 Kenya Telecommunications Operators Forum ICAK- ICT Consumer Association of Kenya National Communication Secretariat (NCS) 10:30- 10:45 Q&A 10:45-11:00 Tea Break 11:00- 11:30 B.P.O Association KENET Linux Chix Kenya Software Industry Association (KSIA) 11:30- 11:45 Q & A 11:45 -12:30 KIF ISACA- Information System Audit and Control Ass. E Government NSCT Media Council 12:30 – 12:45 Centre for Corporate Governance 12:45 – 1:00 Q&A 1:00 – 2:00 Lunch 2:00 – 2:30 Kenya ICT Board 2:30 – 3:00 KEPSA KIF LPA BIAK 3:00 – 3: 15 Q & A 3:00 – 3:45 Grant Management – Githongo & Ass. 3:45 – 4:00 Q & A 4:00 – 4:30 EACIT4D ICJ Media Owners Vision 2030 4:30 – 5:30 Open mic 6:00 Cocktail Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/

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EAC members to draft a ICT policy
by Mike Theuri 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=51512 EAC members to draft a ICT policy Written By:KNA , Posted: Mon, Jul 28, 2008 Member states of the East African Community (EAC) have resolved to come up with a harmonized Information Communication technology (ICT) policy to promote regional integration to yield effective business investment opportunities. Participants at the EAC National Workshop for ICT Policy Review at a Nairobi hotel were Monday told that it was important for them to come up with a common policy for five member countries; Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi. Information and Communication Permanent Secretary Dr. Bitange Ndemo in his address speech in opening the seminar said the community was looking towards deepening political, social, economic and cultural integration in order to improve the quality of life of people through increased competitiveness, value added production, trade and investment. "As you already know we have made a lot of progress towards integration of Customs Union in East Africa and our aim when we bring the five partner countries together is to establish a common market of at least 120 million people," he said. The PS said once the policy becomes synchronized East Africa residents would enjoy the benefit of sending data across the borders without hitches, as the ultimate outcome of the policy would ensure a level playing field for member countries. Dr. Ndemo said as the stakeholders discuss on the harmonization of the policy they needed to focus on issues such as market structures and regulations, effects a single market on consumers, political, economic and social considerations, institutional arrangements and prioritization areas. Kenya's Policy Review Framework he said was centered on the importance of ICT policy environment, interconnection costs, innovative technology and Finance, Internet Governance, Open access, ICT and violence against women, participation in international bodies and ICT and environment (E-waste). He said the Government has had problems with innovative technologies like the M-PESA as a lot of people in the financial sector complained of encroachment in banking sector while the region generally lacked adequate representation in international bodies for failing to sponsor somebody to represent the countries at the international organizations. He announced that the ICT Bill already has been published, was currently under review, and told the EAC stakeholders that the parliamentary committee on Information and Communication would invite them to discuss the bill in the next three weeks. He said the bill covers E-transaction and broadcasting with a broadcasting law that would lead to proper regulation of radio and television content. He also said the Freedom of Information Bill had reached advanced stages while the Government was also working on a new Bill called Data Protection Bill not covered in the ICT Bill. And the EAC Secretary General who was represented at the meeting by Philip Wambugu, Director of Planning and Infrastructure at the EAC secretariat said there was need to develop a policy that would lead to creation of an environment to foster massive expansion in coverage and capacity of information infrastructure network. He said that even though the region has witnessed growth of the mobile industry there was still limited improvement in broadband networks thus killing opportunities for development. "The universal access to ICT network and service as an indicator is still far from being a reality," said he.

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[Fwd: Computing in Developing Economies: IEEE Computer Current Issue]
by alice 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

The latest (June 2008) issue of IEEE Computer is a special on Computing in Developing Economies. The four-page editorial overview is available online at: http://www.computer.org/portal/cms_docs_computer/computer/homepage/June08/C… Included in the special issue is "ICT4D 2.0: The Next Phase of Applying ICT for International Development". It reviews the first ten years of ICT4D, and identifies the new technologies, new approaches to innovation, and new worldviews that will be required for the next ten years of ICT4D. If you wish to read this article but have problems accessing it, please let me know. Richard Heeks Development Informatics Group University of Manchester, UK

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Briefing note of the Paris meeting
by alice 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

BRIEFING NOTE - Overall summary of the Paris meeting *http://par.icann.org/briefing-note What was it?* ICANN's 32nd international public meeting was one of three held annually to conduct policy development and outreach. It was hosted by ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) and Agifem, a non-profit organization made up of several French Internet companies and organizations. The meeting was opened by the Eric Besson, France's Minister of State for forward planning, assessment of public policies, and development of the digital economy. 1,672 people participated from 166 different countries, making this ICANN's biggest ever meeting. The participants engaged in a wide range of discussions about the Internet's domain name system and related issues. Further information about the meeting, including presentations and transcripts, is available at http://par.icann.org/. ICANN's next international public meeting will take place in Cairo, Egypt, beginning on 3rd November, 2008. *What happened and what are the next steps? * Many meetings, workshops, public forums and informal discussions were held over six days by the different stakeholders of the ICANN model: • business interests • civil society • governments and government agencies • Internet service providers • registrants • registrars • registries • the technical community Several key issues and themes evolved over the course of the meeting. They are summarized below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *New gTLDs* ICANN's Board of Directors took a significant step forward on the introduction of new generic top-level domains (new gTLDS - extensions to the domain name system in addition to, for example, .COM or .INFO). The Board approved the policy recommendations on new gTLDs developed by the GNSO, ICANN's policy development arm for the generic name space. The Board directed ICANN staff to further develop and complete a detailed implementation plan. New generic top-level domains were a featured topic of conversation during the meeting. The week began with a dedicated two-and-a-half-hour interactive session where experts from different industries and sectors around the world shared a diversity of views about the potential changes to the Internet as the New gTLD Program is launched. The workshop was presented with MARQUES, the Association of European trademark owners, which represents trademark owners' interests before EU and other international bodies. ICANN staff updated the community on how new gTLDs may be implemented, including a timeline and recent steps taken to address potential disputes. Similar updates were presented to the various stakeholders including the GNSO Council. New gTLDs were also discussed at the Public Forum, later in the week. During the meeting, a number of suggestions for new gTLDs also emerged. The discussions on new gTLDs were the subject of worldwide and widespread press coverage including by BBC, CNN, NBC, Les Echos, Business Week, Le Monde, Liberation, The Times of London, the Financial Times, and other media outlets all over the world. More information is available on ICANN's new gTLDs page (http://www.icann.org/topics/new-gtld-program.htm) This web page includes a factsheet on the topic written in plain language and accessible to a general audience. *Next steps:* The Board approved the policy recommendations on new gTLDs, drawn up by the GNSO, and directed ICANN staff to further develop and complete a detailed implementation plan. Before the new gTLD introduction process is launched, the Board will be given a final version of the implementation proposals of the proposed process after a community review. *More information:* More information can be found online at: http://www.icann.org/topics/new-gtld-program.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *IDNs and IDN Fast Track* Much of the discussion about Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) during the Paris meeting centered on the work of the IDNC Working Group (IDNC WG). The IDNC WG was chartered by the Board at its November 2007 meeting. Its participants were appointed by the following supporting organizations and advisory committees of ICANN: the Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO), GNSO, Government Advisory Committee (GAC), At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC). The group has been working on the issue of an accelerated introduction of IDNs (the "fast track") where specific, non-controversial country-code top-level domains in non-Latin scripts could be approved and added to the Internet's root without having to wait for the full approval process to be finalized. The IDNC WG released its draft final report on the feasibility of this approach for public comment two weeks prior to the Paris meeting. The report provided a number of high-level recommendations and received broad approval from the ccNSO and the GAC. On the broader topic of IDNs, the Director of the IDN Program, Tina Dam, gave updates to the Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees, describing progress on technical and other IDN implementation issues. IDNs were discussed at the Public Forum, and a progress update was also given on the final day of the meeting. Of particular interest was how finalization of the IDNA protocol revision would impact top-level IDN domains, in particular when and how they will be introduced. *Next steps:* The Board asked the IDNC WG final report to be posted for public comment and asked staff to produce a detailed report on implementation issues, following consultation with the community, in time for the next meeting in Cairo in November 2008. *More information:* More information can be found online at: http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/idnc-charter.htm and at http://icann.org/topics/idn ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Improving Institutional Confidence* The Paris meeting saw the release of three documents from the President's Strategy Committee (PSC) outlining a new "Improving Institutional Confidence" public consultation. This consultation's aim is for the community to discuss possible changes to ICANN in the lead up to the completion of the JPA in September 2009. This work has been led by the PSC whose role is to provide advice to the Board. The three documents – Improving Institutional Confidence in ICANN, Transition Action Plan and Frequently Asked Questions – were used as the basis for a two-hour discussion session. During a public meeting on the issue, the PSC explained how the consultation would work and how people could find out more information at each stage. The issue was also given a dedicated timeslot in the Public Forum. The documents are currently out for public comment (closing on 31 July). *Next Steps: * The consultation process outlined in the Transition Action Plan will be followed. The entire community is encouraged to read the documents and send their comments in before 31 July. The documents will then be revised and put out for additional comment in September 2008 in preparation for further discussions at the Cairo meeting in November. A final report by the PSC will be provided to the Board in December. *More information:* More information is available online at: http://icann.org/jpa/iic ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Independent Reviews* The independent review process requires each of ICANN's Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees to undergo review every few years to make sure that the organization as a whole continues to serves the needs of the global Internet community. There are several independent reviews currently underway or soon to be launched. The Board of Directors is also undergoing an independent review in 2008. The Paris meeting saw a number of updates on the current reviews. *GNSO* The GNSO's review has been completed and it is now in the implementation stage. The Board approved all but one of the recommendations developed by a special Board working group to improve the effectiveness of the GNSO's policy activities, structure, operations and communications. Recommendations to be implemented include: • use of a working group model for future policy development • a revised policy development process • enhancements to the different constituencies that make up the GNSO • improved communications. The Board deferred its final decision on one recommendation - restructuring the GNSO Council – and decided to give the GNSO one last chance to submit a consensus recommendation on how to structure the Council before it makes its final decision in the next few weeks. The Board requested that the GNSO convene a small working group to submit a consensus recommendation on Council restructuring no later than 25 July. The group is to include one member from each constituency, one of the current Nominating Committee appointees, and one member from each liaison-appointing advisory committee (if that advisory committee so desires). In a related development, the GNSO Council postponed a vote on a top-level GNSO Improvements Implementation Plan and called for a 21-day public comment forum on the document. That open public comment forum closes on 18 July 2008. *ALAC* Two public sessions and two informal sessions were held to discuss a report from the ALAC's independent reviewers. The Board's ALAC review working group held its first sessions. The draft report is currently out for public comment. *Board of Directors* The Boston Consulting Group was selected as the consultant to perform the independent review of the Board of Directors. *Nominating Committee* A working group created by the Board Governance Committee is working on recommendations following the independent evaluators' report on the Nominating Committee. *Others* The Board established three working groups to review future independent review reports. They will cover: the Board, the DNS Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC), and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC). *Next steps:* The reviews will continue to progress through each step in the review process. Updates will be provided at the Cairo meeting in November. *More information:* More information including links to each of the reviews and public comments pages can be found online at: http://www.icann.org/reviews/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Registrar Accreditation Agreement* More progress was made on improvements to protections for registrants provided through the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA – the contract ICANN holds with companies that register domain names on behalf of registrants). 15 revised changes and amendments were published in a report currently out for public comment (the comment period closes 4 August 2008). The amendments were outlined in meetings with individual Supporting Organizations and Advisory Committees, as well as a dedicated one-and-a-half-hour public workshop. RAA amendments also had a specific timeslot for discussion during the Public Forum, and were further outlined at the final day's report session. There are four categories of amendment to the RAA: • Enforcement tools, including graduated sanctions, liability and audit provisions • Protections for registrants, including possible improvements to data escrow and the ability to make resellers comply with RAA obligations • A more stable registrar marketplace, including training for registrar operators • Modernizing the agreement, bringing it up to date with changes in the use and reuse of domain names *Next steps:* The amendments will be revised following input during the public comment period and then shared with the Board, who will determine the next steps. *More information:* More information can be found online at: http://www.icann.org/topics/raa/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Meetings Review* A paper covering possible changes to ICANN meetings themselves was put to the community in a number of different sessions, including several Supporting Organization and Advisory Committee meetings, the opening day public forum, mid-week Public Forum, and the closing-day reports session. There were two main recommendations in the paper: • that ICANN move from three to two meetings a year; and • that one of those meetings be held in a "hub" city. There was a broad range of views and discussion on both points, as well as discussion of the change to the Paris schedule which saw the meeting end a day earlier on Thursday, rather than on Friday. *Next steps:* The meetings paper is out for public comment until 10 July and will be revised following feedback from the community. *More information:* More information can be found online at: http://www.icann.org/public_comment/#meeting-consultation-2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *IPv6* A number of information sessions on the new Internet Protocol were held in order to the make community more aware of support issues and to outline ways forward. The ALAC, ccNSO, Registry and Registrar constituencies were also addressed by experts on this topic during their own meetings. Business leaders were given an overview as part of the Business Access Agenda. IPv6 was also discussed during the Public Forum. The GAC heard from several individuals and organizations, including the OECD and the Names Resource Organization, about current trends and the challenges to IPv6 deployment worldwide. More information: A factsheet written in plain and clear language has been produced: "IPv6 – The Internet's vital expansion - October 2007". It explains the protocol upgrade to a non-technical audience and is available here: http://www.icann.org/announcements/factsheet-ipv6-26oct07.pdf <http://www.icann.org/announcements/factsheet-ipv6-26oct07.pdf> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Business Access Agenda* For the first time, a specific agenda and series of targeted meetings and discussions were held for business leaders in an effort to engage business more effectively within ICANN's processes. The agenda included briefings on the most significant topics facing ICANN at the moment, including new gTLDs, IDNs and IPv6, and a meeting with the Board of Directors. It was organized in cooperation with the E-Business, IT and Telecoms Commission of the International Chamber of Commerce. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Other issues* • The Board approved a recommendation by the GNSO to tackle "domain tasting". • The FY09 ICANN operating plan and budget of $57.1m were adopted by the Board. • Approval was given to a plan by PIR (the Public Interest Registry) to add the security protocol DNSSEC to the .org registry. • An "At Large Summit" was approved to enable representatives of Internet user groups (At-Large Structures) to meet together within the next year, most likely at the Mexico City meeting in March 2009. • The SSAC published a number of new reports and survey results relating to security and stability of the Internet. (http://www.icann.org/committees/security/) • A number of policy development processes were started or advanced at the GNSO including Fast Flux and inter-registrar transfers. • The GAC reiterated its strong support for a number of studies into the use and abuse of Whois data, and asked for clarification from the Board on whether studies would depend on the outcome of the GNSO Council's decision. The GNSO Council created a working group to review recommendations for Whois studies.

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Build successful business on FOSS
by Gakuru, Alex 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Hi, I recently met an official from http://www.sun.com and requested if their company would be willing to speak to local FOSS services business providers on "How to build successful business based on Open Source Software"? and he agreed. At the BarCamp several local FOSS-SMEs signed up and before I proceed to the next level of organising a workshop/seminar/meeting (sometimes I get lost in the difference;) I've felt it would be prudent to ask if there would be other FOSS service providers interested? If so, please drop me an email at gakuru(a)gmail.com Regards, Alex

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Who should solve this Internet Crisis
by Michuki Mwangi 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

A very sober approach IMHO http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/27/AR200807270… Regards, Michuki. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 151
by Evans J. Nyagah 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Why don't we put the discussion on new DG to rest and give him, a benefit of doubt to prove his worth, shem and the rest who believe they should be DG's have an opportunity since the DG position is not everlasting but has definite period one can serve. Evans Nyagah -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:53 PM To: Evans J. Nyagah Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 151 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: New DG (Joseph Manthi) 2. Official invitation for the Third IGF Meeting (alice) 3. DiploFoundation Call For Applications: Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme for INDIA 2008 (Plain Text email)] (alice) 4. Re: New DG (Joseph Manthi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:40:09 -0400 From: Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New DG To: Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <7BFDA3B6-0B09-4612-B15D-76A01A51BB0C(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bryan Well said New Vision is their way of saying that unless things go there way they shall scream and holler corruption all day long. As in this case. Let's use this case as an example - Shem thinks he should be the new DG not because he has the relevant experience but because he has a PhD in "imformatician" From what you have indicated they seem to have made the right decision. Joe Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, "Brian Longwe" <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, > > I think you guys are now just arguing for the sake of arguing. > > Some facts to help clear the air. > > 1) Mr. Njoroge has been with CCK since it's inception > 2) Mr. Njoroge has been working as second violin to all of the > preceding DGs > 3) The position was advertised broadly in all the local dailies by a > reputable International "Executive Appointments" firm > 4) The said firm processed applications, came up with a short list, > presented this to the CCK board > 5) CCK board interviewed all candidates > 6) CCK Board conducted follow up interviews on all candidates who > passed first interview > 7) CCK Board independently selected the highest scoring > candidate ... Mr. Njoroge > 8) CCK Board forwarded their recommendation to the Minister/President > 9) A lot of politicians tried to "get their man in" - thus wasting a > lot of time > 10) The Minister/President did the wise thing and ratified the > Board's recommendation > 11) Mr. Njoroge was announced as the new DG > > Is this the way things should be done? Yes! > Should we wish/hope for our Government to use a different approach? > No! > > So I'm happy and elated that we for the first time have a DG who has > served in/with the regulator for over 8 years. > > As Manthi has put it - let us see if he can deliver - I have a > feeling he will. > > Regards, > > Brian > > ps - what is this New Vision list I see copied whenever Shem is > mentioned? > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > See below > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Washington: > > I am not being personal, everything I have stated here is either > what Shem > > has said himself and what is in public record. One thing about > democracy is > > that the person in power appoints his people. When that person is > off power, > > all his people are replace with those of the new "presidents" > political > > persuasion. I do not see what you guys are whining about. > > In the US, the person in power appoints, and the appointee gets vetted > by Congress, > which has the rights to refuse such an appointment, yes? That is > democracy. > In Kenya, where noone can vet, do you still call it democracy? > > That is Parliament's problem not CCK or of this forum. If the > parliament does not want to exercise its prerogative to change laws > that allow it to oversee parastatals who are to complain if > appointments are skewed to one side. The only other recourse you and > I have is to make sure that we vote the right candidate in - that is > Democracy. We have a new parliament lets hope they listen to you. > > BTW: If you did not know it Dr Shem Ochuodho was an MP. Did he table > a motion to give the parliament powers to oversee appointment of CCK > DGs? > > I do not know > > > > > > Under the circumstances, the current leadership would have > appointed a > > village idiot to run CCK because according to them the idiot was > qualified > > and there would have been nothing wrong with that. You are > listening way too > > much to the WB/IFC to be of any good to the country. This guy has > worked in > > CCK - as someone else has stated. He probably knows more about > deregulation > > and ICT than 90% of the subscribers to this list - me and Shem > included - > > because deregulation is an economic concept. I expect him to lead > the CCK > > into the right direction. > > > > Having some ICT knowledge does not make you a good Regulator > Manager. The > > problem with people complaining too much is that their audience > stops > > listening. > > > > Give the guy a chance and stop whining about who should and who > should not > > have been appointed. > > So according to you, the status quo is equally good? > Then surely, I believe you are wrongly in this list, which seeks to > establish changes by > coming up with policies that can see this country move to the next > level! > > You are reverting back to stone age arguments. > > This is a political argument. I do not know the new guy, so neither > do you. And therefore you do not know his capability. Give him a > chance to prove himself. After all I am sure the full cabinet > including the PM's office was in on the appointment. Did they raise > hell because of his appointment? No. They obviously know something > you or I do not. > > Again - from studying places where Regulation and Deregulation has > happening - you do not need an "informatician" - whatever that is - > to run an ICT house or a regulator. > > An example: > - Steve Ballmer can't write a single line of code > - Ratan Tata probably does not know what an RJ45 cable is > - To name a few > > These two guys are running some of the best run ICT companies in the > world > > Joe > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > > > > -- > Joseph Manthi > CEO > MEO Ltd > http://www.meoltd.com > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > Brian Munyao Longwe > e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com > cell: + 254 722 518 744 > blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com > meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Re: [kictanet] Public Sector Appointments must be on MERIT
by waudo siganga 27 Jul '08

27 Jul '08

Thank you for the reassurance with regard to the particular instance of the DG Bwana P.S. This is what we want to hear: that Public Sector appointments are on Merit, especially in our industry. Waudo On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:36:51 +0300 (EAT), bitange(a)jambo.co.ke said: > Dear Waudo, > I agree with you 100% that Public Sector Appointments MUST be on MERIT. > Indeed the process that led up to the appointment of the DG was > transparent and meritorious. The reason why the selection agency (Ernest > Young) was competitively picked was to avoid any form of interverance. > > The Agency gave the Board six names. Five attended the interviews. > Three > names were forwarded to the Minister. Unfortunately, none of the five was > a woman (new policy we need to give a certain % of appointment to women > who make it to such a high level list plus other considerations include > regional representation). The Minister has the prerogative of picking > any > of the last three finalists but in this case he picked based on the order > of merit. In sum total, there was no political interverance in > appointing > CCK DG. The Government is open to views on a more meritorious process > that we need to use especially in appointing the Brand Kenya CEO. > > Asante. > > Ndemo. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).

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DiploFoundation Call For Applications: Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme for INDIA 2008 (Plain Text email)]
by alice 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

DIPLO FOUNDATION INTERNET GOVERNANCE AND POLICY > >Call for Applications > >Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme for INDIA 2008 > >DiploFoundation (http://www.diplomacy.edu) and the National Internet >Exchange of India (NIXI) (http://www.nixi.in/) are currently accepting >applications for the Online Capacity Building Training in Internet >Governance for India. This online training is designed to improve Internet >Governance (IG) related knowledge and skills for participants. The training >also facilitates community-building among individuals with different >backgrounds. > > >The Programme > >The programme offers places for 30 young professionals in India from diverse >stakeholder backgrounds in IG-related fields. The programme will start on 1 >September 2008, and will last for 10 weeks. > >The training is conducted entirely online and in English. Participation >takes place through an online learning platform enabling a variety of >interactive learning and communication tools and encouraging sharing of >knowledge and experiences. Participants are divided in two groups of 15 >participants, each, under the guidance of certified Diplo online tutors and >with support from trained professionals from the region. > >The ten most successful participants will be awarded a Policy Fellowship >from NIXI. The fellowship from will facilitate participation at the Internet >Governance Forum in Hyderabad, India, December 2008, by sponsoring five days >of bed and breakfast, and a stipend of ten thousand rupees to cover travel >and other costs. The selected participants may present findings of their >research at some parallel events at the IGF. > > >Timeline > >§ 10 July - call for applicants > >§ 5 August - application deadline > >§ 15 August - selection results > >§ 1 September - start of the course > >§ 15 November - final evaluation > > >Fee > >While the course is subsidized by NIXI and DiploFoundation, there is a >nominal fee of Rupees 1000 (Approx. USD 25) per participant (to be paid >after the selection). > > >Deadline > >The deadline for applications is 5 August 2008, by midnight UTC/GMT. > > >How to Apply > >For further information and to apply, please visit the DiploFoundation IG >website at http://www.diplomacy.edu/ig/IGCBP/display.asp?Topic=Call-India. >Do not hesitate to contact us at ig(a)diplomacy.edu . > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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Official invitation for the Third IGF Meeting
by alice 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi All For those who follow global internet policy and governance processes, here's the official invitation to the 3rd Internet Governance Forum taking place in India. best alice --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The UN Secretary General's invitation to the third IGF meeting, Hyderabad, India (3-6 December 2008) is online <http://www.intgovforum.org/usgdesa-letter-en.html> On behalf of the Secretary-General, it is my pleasure to invite you to participate in the Third IGF in Hyderabad, India on 3 - 6 December 2008. The meeting will be open to all World Summit on the information Society (WSIS) accredited entities, as well as other institutions and persons with proven expertise and experience in matters related to Internet governance. Following broad-based consultations through the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), the proposed agenda for the Third Meeting of the IGF will be as follows: * Reaching the next billion; * Promoting cyber-security and trust; * Managing critical Internet resources; * Taking stock and the way forward; * Emerging issues - the Internet of tomorrow The overall theme of the meeting will be internet for all'. This theme complements that of the 2008 World Telecommunications and Information Society Day, 'connecting people with disabilities'. The theme underscores the importance of ensuring that we include the world's 650 million people with disabilities as we move towards giving internet access to the next billion people. I take this opportunity to express my gratitude to the Government of India for hosting the next Meeting of the internet Governance Forum (IGF). Our host this year provides us with a practical example of how tremendous economic growth can be achieved through harnessing the tools which the Internet has placed at our disposaL We will see first hand in the host city of Hyderabad, how India's development through the application of Information and Communication Technology (lCT) has been truly astounding. I look forward to welcoming you to the IGF in Hyderabad this December. The invitation is made by Under-Secretary-General Sha Zukang on behalf of the Secretary-General.

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Domain Name Security Paper Released]
by alice 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-24jul08-en.htm <http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=9826720&msgid=163486&act=9MXL&c=1…> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Domain Name Security Paper Released 24 July 2008 Marina Del Rey, Calif: For many years, the Internet community has been developing and enhancing a Domain Name System (DNS) security technology called DNSSEC. ICANN's strategic <http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=9826720&msgid=163486&act=9MXL&c=1…> and operating <http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=9826720&msgid=163486&act=9MXL&c=1…> [PDF, 480K] plans call for ICANN to be operationally ready to deploy DNSSEC at the root level and work with relevant stakeholders to determine how this should be implemented. With input from many stakeholders, ICANN has prepared a document describing this path to operational readiness for signing the root. The purpose of this paper <http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=9826720&msgid=163486&act=9MXL&c=1…> [PDF, 342K] released today is to: a) articulate ICANN's initiatives toward operational readiness for DNSSEC signing; and b) help determine the right structures so ICANN is "…prepared to digitally sign the root using DNSSEC technology by late 2008", as directed in the July 2008 – June 2011 ICANN Strategic Plan after consultation with stakeholders and having sought the necessary approvals. Specifically, this document is not a roadmap for DNSSEC deployment. Ultimately, this roadmap will be developed by a community consultation process, and require relevant approvals through ICANN's IANA functions contract with the U.S. Department of Commerce. A public forum has been established at http://forum.icann.org/lists/dnssec-roadmap/ <http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=9826720&msgid=163486&act=9MXL&c=1…> and ICANN actively seeks your input on this important matter. Email comments to dnssec-roadmap(a)icann.org <mailto:dnssec-roadmap@icann.org> In addition recently, a prominent security researcher privately reported two domain name system (DNS) vulnerabilities to many DNS name server developers. DNSSEC would be a solution to these vulnerabilities. The details of the vulnerabilities have not yet been disclosed publicly at this stage so that developers can produce patches to reduce the threat these vulnerabilities pose. Private disclosures of this kind also give DNS operators an opportunity to patch systems before the vulnerabilities can be exploited for malicious or criminal purposes. ICANN understands there will be a public announcement of these vulnerabilities by the researcher in coming weeks. This vulnerability does not affect root-level servers or services that provide authoritative name service at the top level. But it does represent a threat for domain name servers that operate between end users and the root; servers operated by Internet Service Providers or large enterprises. Commercial service providers in general are aware of this issue, and are working with vendors to update their software to the latest versions. ICANN's Security Stability Advisory Committee will be examining this issue and may report more fully later. ICANN urges any entity operating name services to update to the current versions to provide greatest protection. Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

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NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW
by Esther WANJAU 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Further to my invitation letter to the above workshop, I hereby attach a provisonal agenda for your information. Those who have not confirmed attendance please do so before end of thursday 24th, July, 2008. Esther Esther Wanjau Assistant Director/ICT Ministry of Information and Communications Tel: +254 20 251152/250517 Cell: +254 722 867361 email: esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke

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Re: [kictanet] A LADY CPA II ACCOUNANT IS REQURED TO DO PART TIME TRAINING
by charles nduati 25 Jul '08

25 Jul '08

Hi All, Kindly forward to me ASAP CV for a lady who has minimum CPA II to be employed as a trainer ITS CALLED GENDER BALANCE Regards, Charles CHARLES N. NDUATI BUSINESS MANAGER JKUAT ENTERPRISES LTD JOMO KENYATTA UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY JUJA MAIN CAMPUS, THIKA P. O. BOX 79324-00200 NAIROBI, KENYA TEL: 254-067-52420 OR 254-067-52711 FAX: 254-067-52438 MOBILE:254-722728815 EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk www.jkuat.ac.ke ----- Original Message ---- From: joseph wafula <muliaro(a)yahoo.com> To: charles nduati <charlesnduati2002(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 24 July, 2008 5:17:06 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW Director Esther Wanjau, though I have atempted to confirm my attendance at National ICT Policy Review, I have realized that I have no invitatation letter. Is it possible for me to get one now or how do we go about it. Surely ICT policy is my domain of research and I cant imagine missing the workshop. Kindly advice Regards Dr Muliaro Wafula Institute of Computer Science & IT JKUAT --- On Tue, 7/22/08, charles nduati <charlesnduati2002(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: charles nduati <charlesnduati2002(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW To: muliaro(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:54 PM Hi Director Esther Wanjau, Thanks for the invitation, I bilieve I will attend the workshop and congratulations on your promotion to Assistant director Cheers Charles CHARLES N. NDUATI BUSINESS MANAGER JKUAT ENTERPRISES LTD JOMO KENYATTA UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY JUJA MAIN CAMPUS, THIKA P. O. BOX 79324-00200 NAIROBI, KENYA TEL: 254-067-52420 OR 254-067-52711 FAX: 254-067-52438 MOBILE:254-722728815 EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk www.jkuat.ac.ke ----- Original Message ---- From: Esther WANJAU <esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke> To: charlesnduati2002(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008 3:45:18 PM Subject: [kictanet] NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW Further to my invitation letter to the above workshop, I hereby attach a provisonal agenda for your information. Those who have not confirmed attendance please do so before end of thursday 24th, July, 2008. Esther Esther Wanjau Assistant Director/ICT Ministry of Information and Communications Tel: +254 20 251152/250517 Cell: +254 722 867361 email: esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke ________________________________ Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: muliaro(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muliaro%40yahoo.com __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Re: [kictanet] NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW
by charles nduati 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Hi Director Esther Wanjau, Thanks for the invitation, I bilieve I will attend the workshop and congratulations on your promotion to Assistant director Cheers Charles CHARLES N. NDUATI BUSINESS MANAGER JKUAT ENTERPRISES LTD JOMO KENYATTA UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY JUJA MAIN CAMPUS, THIKA P. O. BOX 79324-00200 NAIROBI, KENYA TEL: 254-067-52420 OR 254-067-52711 FAX: 254-067-52438 MOBILE:254-722728815 EMIAL:charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk www.jkuat.ac.ke ----- Original Message ---- From: Esther WANJAU <esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke> To: charlesnduati2002(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008 3:45:18 PM Subject: [kictanet] NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW Further to my invitation letter to the above workshop, I hereby attach a provisonal agenda for your information. Those who have not confirmed attendance please do so before end of thursday 24th, July, 2008. Esther Esther Wanjau Assistant Director/ICT Ministry of Information and Communications Tel: +254 20 251152/250517 Cell: +254 722 867361 email: esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Global Dialogue on the Future of e-Government: Government 2.0 and Beyond, July 29, 3.30pm -6.30pm
by Harry Hare 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Dear Colleagues, Transforming governments is not easy. While technology alone cannot transform governments, governments today cannot transform without technology. In the fast paced world of technology, new approaches constantly extend the boundaries of what is possible. The pace of change is evidenced by the fact that terms like SOA, WOA, community sourcing, cloud computing, software-as-a-service, and Web 2.0 that seem almost common place today, were not in the lexicon only a few years ago. It would be good to step back and take a dispassionate view of where the practice of government is heading. Some interesting questions, in a 5-10 years time perspective include: * What is the future of government? Is technology facilitating a movement towards minimalist government? Joined-up, seamless government: is it feasible? * What is likely to be the next frontier in moving from e-government to i-government to u-government*? * How will government services be delivered in the future? What technologies are likely to be most relevant? * What should governments do to leverage existing and emerging technologies to achieve transformation? * What are the major challenges in moving towards Government 2.0 and beyond? It is from this background that African eDevelopment Resource Centre in conjunction with the Kenya ICT Board and the eDevelopment Thematic Group of the World Bank invite you to participate in the Global Dialogue on the Future of e-Government via videoconference at the World Bank Office Nairobi on 29 July 2008 3.30 pm - 6.30pm local time. Participation is free but one needs to register. Should you be interested in participating, please send your request to wangechi(a)africanedevelopment.org by mid-day 28th July 2008. Kindest regards Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House 604 Limuru Road, Old Muthaiga PO Box 49475 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Cel +254 725 650044 Land +254 20 3741646/7 <http://www.africanedevelopment.org> www.africanedevelopment.org July/August 2008 Training Opportunities Records Management 28-30 July IT Security 6-8 August GIS 20-22 August VSAT Eng 27-29 August (Dar es Salaam) Space is limited Book Now! P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

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harmonization policy for government ICT projects?
by saidimu apale 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

The Ministry of Lands is going hi-tech (http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&ne…) so is/was the Immigration Ministry, the Ports Authority with its failed/failing KWATOS system, the KRA... etc. Is there a gov't policy to guide Ministries or gov't agencies on implementation of such complex systems? A set of guidelines/best-practices? Minimum standards on care and retention of Kenyans' personal information? Most of those systems have a basic set of identical data (Kenyans' personal information: name, ID, etc): any guidelines on how the systems should inter-operate? In case of conflicting personal data, which of these systems is "official"? Apologies if this was discussed/settled earlier. Saidi

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Re: [kictanet] Expensive Software Systems [Update]
by James Kagwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

"Windows Explorer" browser? Who wrote this document??? ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of wesley kiriinya Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:18 PM To: James Kagwe Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Expensive Software Systems [Update] Following the previous post about the KPA software system which costs > 200M (about 450M including hardware machines), I found the following interesting: http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8717&Item… In summary, the system only uses Internet Explorer (which makes one wonder whether a requirements document was ever created). I can already see your eyes twitching and teeth grinding so I will stop there... And it seems like KRA’s Simba's system is IE only also. I hope this area of ICT is covered in the policy so that Kenyans (whom I believe are very talented) are empowered to take up such projects. Regards. When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -R. Buckminster Fuller.

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FW: [TriumphOfContent] FW: How many subscribers to a web email list does it take to change a lightbulb? (Humor)]
by alice 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Interesting....KICTAnet mailing list is different and immune...is it? best alice -----Original Message----- *From:* TriumphOfContent(a)yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Anjana Basu *Sent:* July 22, 2008 4:49 AM *Subject:* [TriumphOfContent] FW: How many subscribers to a web email list does it take to change a lightbulb? (Humor) *How many subscribers to a web email list does it take to change a light bulb? * *ANSWER:* * 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed. * 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. * 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. * 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. * 41 to correct the spelling/grammar flames. * 6 to argue over whether it's 'lightbulb' or 'light bulb.' * Another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive. * 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is 'lamp.' * 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. * 12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. * 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. * 44 to ask, 'What is an FAQ?' * 2 to post reasons why the light bulb burning out is the result of a government conspiracy. * 4 to say, 'Didn't we go through this already a short time ago?' * 43 to say, 'Do a Google search on light bulbs.' * 1 lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance

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Community Broadcasters
by Alex Gakuru 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Good morning, I need to connect and correspond with community broadcasters. I recall KochFM had their representatives attend kictanet meetings last year.Does SIDAREC have representatives on the list? All help contacting other community stations is most appreciated. Regards, Alex

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NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW
by Esther WANJAU 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

My Name is Esther Wanjau. I am the head of ICT in the Ministry of Information and Communications. The PS has requested me to invite all of you to the National ICT Policy Review Workshop on 28th - 29th July 2008 at Hilton Hotel to discuss the EA Harmonized ICT Policy. The PS will use the occasion to briefly present the Kenya ICT Policy Review Framework and invite you to contribute before the drafting begins. Attached is the Invitation Letter. Esther Esther Wanjau Assistant Director/ICT Ministry of Information and Communications Tel: +254 20 251152/250517 Cell: +254 722 867361 email: esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke

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Flip Video Captures Kenya's Jimi Hendrix
by Brian Munyao Longwe 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Nairobi Buzz: Flip Video captures Kenya's Jimi Hendrix The day I picked up the Flip Video camera I had a late dinner/drink with Harry Hare at Rezorus, a restaurant in Westlands. We innocently walked in and took our seats not knowing that that night was slated for a special performance by one of Nairobi's hottest bands. Within a very short time we realised that this was no ordinary evening as people kept streaming in and the place got fuller. But we cared less as the band kept belting out their own renditions of popular songs, both old as well as new. The hottest was probably "Hotel California" - during which the guitarist played the guitar solo Jimi Hendrix style with his teeth. As he was doing this, Harry punched me and pointed at the Flip - "Go catch that!" he shouted. And here is the result. http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/nairobi-buzz-flip-video- captures-kenyas.html

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Re: [kictanet] Expensive Software Systems [Update]
by tyrus＠icsit.jkuat.ac.ke 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

> > "Windows Explorer" browser? Who wrote this document??? > Am also equally astounded at the level of technical aptitude these technical writers have and this is not the first time a glaring fact error has been made in this section of the BD. Honestly, if some one will write an IT article, will they atleast get their facts right? Tyrus Muya Kamau. Systems Administrator, eLearning Jomo Kenyatta University of Agri & Techology Kenya, Cell Phone: +254-721292936. Mail:tyrus@icsit.jkuat.ac.ke [DISCLAIMER] This message may contain confidential information and must not be copied, disclosed or used by anybody other than the intended recipient. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by e-mail (noreply(a)jkuat.ac.ke) and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. E-mail may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and no liability is accepted for any such corruption, interception or amendment, or the consequences thereof. No liability or responsibility is accepted for viruses - it is your responsibility to scan

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IDS Research Fellows in Knowledge...]
by alice 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

Begin forwarded message: Message from Lawrence Haddad Dear Alumni: Warm greetings from IDS. I would be most grateful if you could circulate this advertisement for 2 IDS Research Fellows within your networks. Closing date for applications is July 29. Best wishes, Lawrence IDS Research Fellows in Knowledge, Information and Communication in International Development (closing date, July 29, 2008) http://www.ids.ac.uk/go/about-ids/working-at-ids/current-vacancies What roles do knowledge, information and communication play in positive social change? The Institute of Development Studies (IDS), Sussex, has launched a new research theme to advance understanding in this area (including the contribution of associated technologies) and is looking to appointtwo Research Fellowsto lead this work, linking research and practice within its Information Department, Communications Unit and Research Teams. IDS is looking for researchers interested in exploring this theme from an issue perspective, or equally as processes in themselves, for example, how information, communication and knowledge shape, and are shaped by, power relationships; how they affect the ways in which groups and individuals know, express and engage with development ideas. The two Research Fellows will be located within the IDS Information Department which runs several Knowledge Services (www.ids.ac.uk/info) that act as information and knowledge intermediaries. We therefore have a special research interest to develop thinking and practice in this area, closely linked to our capacity development work to support intermediaries around the world. Required qualifications and skills: Applicants will need to demonstrate their capacity for leadership, innovation and fund-raising and have a strong track record of independent research and publication and/or equivalent practical experience in a relevant field. They will also need to demonstrate how they would link analysis and research findings to practice and policy. Candidates should have a doctorate or equivalent demonstrable experience in research or practice, with at least one years experience post-doc. A commitment to working collaboratively and in teams with people from a range of cultural, disciplinary and organizational backgrounds is essential. Lawrence Haddad Director Institute of Development Studies www.ids.ac.uk good with research ------- End of forwarded message ------- _______________________________________________ AAW-Network mailing list AAW-Network(a)lists.apcwomen.org http://lists.apcwomen.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aaw-network

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Inside Nairobi, the Next Palo Alto?
by alice 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/business/worldbusiness/20ping.html?ex=121… Inside Nairobi, the Next Palo Alto? Jacob Wire/European Pressphoto Agency Google has mapped Nairobi and wants to add similar detail for other African cities. Other places must be content with technologies made by others. Yet people in these areas are dreaming of more. Consider Wilfred Mworia, a 22-year-old engineering student and freelance code writer in Nairobi, Kenya. In the four weeks leading up to Apple’s much-anticipated release of a new iPhone on July 11, Mr. Mworia created an application for the phone that shows where events in Nairobi are happening and allows people to add details about them. Mr. Mworia’s desire to develop an application for the iPhone is not unusual: many designers around the world are writing programs for the device. But his location posed some daunting obstacles: the iPhone doesn’t work in Nairobi, and Mr. Mworia doesn’t even own one. He wrote his program on an iPhone simulator. “Even if I don’t have an iPhone,” Mr. Mworia says defiantly, “I can still have a world market for my work.” Nairobi’s challenges are many. Internet use is relatively expensive and slow. Power failures are common. The city also lacks a world-class technical university. Mr. Mworia’s professors don’t offer lessons in the latest computer languages; he must learn them on his own. Political instability can be a problem, too. Earlier this year, Kenya suffered widespread violence after its disputed national election. For weeks, work in Nairobi came to a halt. “If you have a bright idea in Nairobi, you can’t just turn it around,” says Laura Frederick, an American working on an online payment system in the city. Still, Nairobi is home to a digital brew that invites optimism about its chances for creating unusual innovations. The city has relatively few wired phone lines or networked personal computers, so mobile phones are the essential digital tool. Four times as many people have them as have bank accounts. Text messages are far more popular than e-mail. Safaricom, the dominant mobile provider, offers a service called M-pesa that lets customers send money with text messages. Nokia sells brand-new phones here for as little as $33. While engineers in the United States lavish attention on expensive phones that boast laptoplike features, in Kenya there are 10 million low-end phones. Millions more are used elsewhere in Africa. Enhancements to such basic phones can be experimented with cheaply in Nairobi, and because designers are weaned on narrow bandwidth, they are comfortable writing compact programs suited to puny devices. “Applications are heavy in America,” says Michael Wakahe, a Nairobi code writer. “Here we have to make them light,” because simpler hardware requires smaller programs. These can have advantages in wireless systems. The distinctive digital experience in Nairobi inspires confidence in its youthful community of programmers, bloggers and Web enthusiasts. Over the past year, about 600 people in Nairobi — most under 25 — have coalesced into a group called Skunk Works, sharing ideas and encouraging new businesses. In June, it held an all-day workshop that included sessions on using the Android phone operating system from Google, developing applications for digital maps and creating content for mobile phones. “Possibilities are opening up for us,” says Josiah Mugambi, one of the group’s organizers. The prospect of marrying low-end mobile phones with the Internet is earning Nairobi notice from outsiders, who wonder whether the city might emerge as a test-bed for tomorrow’s technologies. One intriguing possibility is broadcasting local television programs on mobile phones. In Nairobi’s highest-profile validation, Google opened a development office here last September. “Africa is a huge long-term market for us,” Eric E. Schmidt, Google’s chief executive, said by e-mail. “We have to start by helping people get online, and the creativity of the people will take care of the rest.” Google hired seven recent university graduates, who digitally mapped the streets and structures of Nairobi for Google Maps. The company is now doing the same for other African cities. A leading Nairobi television broadcaster, NTV, has made a deal to present whole episodes of its programs on YouTube, a Google property. Google plans to hire more people in Nairobi and is recruiting staff in half a dozen other African cities. In Nairobi, Google chose a veteran of the city’s Internet-access industry to lead its office. The company assigned two Americans here; like the presidential candidate Barack Obama, each is the child of a Kenyan and an American. The company’s presence has raised ambitions. “When I interview people for jobs in this office,” explains Chris Kiagiri, a Google technology officer in Nairobi, “I ask them, ‘What would you like to see Google do in this market that it has not attempted anywhere else in the world?’” “A lot of people assume Google is trying to replicate in Africa what it has done elsewhere,” adds Mr. Kiagiri, who transferred last year from Google’s head office in California. “Sure, we want to bring existing products into this market. But we also want to organize information locally in a way we haven’t done elsewhere.” To be truly creative in a technological backwater is to defeat geography. Even as powerful a technological force as Google might not succeed. But dreaming of greatness, Kenyans are pushing Google to expand into completely new areas. One local programmer, Timothy Mbugua, wants Google to enhance its communication backbone so he can use it to build a money-transfer business that would charge lower rates than existing services. While it sounds daunting, Mr. Mbugua explains, “I’m only saying to Google, ‘This is what I need from you in order to execute my idea.’” G. Pascal Zachary teaches journalism at Stanford and writes about technology and economic development. E-mail: gzach(a)nytimes.com.

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Is Africa the safe haven for Cyber-Criminals?
by John Walubengo 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

The rapid developments within the ICT sector across Africa may be happening faster than the corresponding development within the Information Security space. The uptake of mobile and internet services in Africa is considered one of the fastest globally yet governments, businesses and consumers have adopted various e-Services with little or no regard to the underlying security challenges. check out the rest of story @ http://politics.nationmedia.com/Blog/default.asp?Display=310 walu.

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[Fwd: Unravelling the Basics of Regulation under Convergence]
by alice 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

FYI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Unravelling the Basics of Regulation under Convergence Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:11:29 +0100 From: The Commonwealth Telecommunications Organisation <programmes(a)cto.int> Reply-To: tdrtchrdpbgjr(a)email-reply.co.uk To: alice(a)apc.org Dear Sir/Madam, *Regulation and Applications Under Convergence, 25-29 August 2008, Nairobi, Kenya* Here's your chance to gain deep insights into an industry buzzword and to learn how it impacts your business and the industry as a whole. What do we really mean by convergence and what are its key drivers? What regulatory and legal frameworks should apply to converging networks and services? Perhaps you are an operator seeking to analyse how to consolidate networks into a single network capable of handling different kinds of traffic? Or you may be an IT technician or an engineer looking to broaden your understanding of application, network and service convergence and how these interplay within an existing non-converged regime? Or you may be from a forward-thinking regulator looking to develop conducive regulatory and legal approaches to convergence? You could also be in an executive decision making, advisory or policy making role and feel the need to better understand the different types of economic regulation, tariff regulation and pricing mechanisms in order to come up with the most cost-efficient and competitive mix. Answers to these and many more questions will be answered by this high-level course with a focus on implementation issues. *ABOUT THE COURSE* This highly relevant industry course is designed to offer a clear understanding of the following aspects in convergence: Regulation and market structure Regulatory and legal frameworks in a converged environment, conflicting issues, and how these have an impact on competition Models of new regulatory options in converging, competitive environments Licensing, standards of enforcement, service interoperability Unbundling, pricing mechanisms, tariffs regulation Interconnection pricing and regulation, universal access and universal service obligations, regulation and pricing of spectrum Converged applications, networks and services *WHO IS IT FOR?* The course is developed for staff of regulatory agencies, fixed and mobile operators, and economists and policy makers. *ABOUT THE COURSE LEADER* This course will be delivered by Christie Christelis, a senior associate at Alliances Consulting Group Inc. Christie brings over 20 years of international experience in ICTs including convergence technologies, wireless and mobile technologies, internet, broadcast interactive TV, IPTV, VoIP, satellite communications, fixed line and fixed wireless technologies. He has extensive experience in regulatory capacity building to address newly liberalised telecommunications and broadcasting environments. Through the CTO Christie has delivered training in the areas of convergence technology and regulatory issues, financial and economic considerations around carrier selection, number portability and the unbundling of the local loop, price cap formulation and implementation, and competition and privatisation. Christie holds an MBA, a B.Sc. (Eng.) in electronics, a graduate diploma in engineering and a diploma in programme management. *HOW TO PARTICIPATE* *To access full course information including the Registration Form please* *click here * <http://mailer.eddiction.co.uk/_webscripts/emaillog.php?dbid=29&caid=215&coi…> *To view other courses and the latest Training Schedule for 08-09 please **click here * <http://mailer.eddiction.co.uk/_webscripts/emaillog.php?dbid=29&caid=215&coi…> For any enquiries please contact Nomita Das at +44 20 8834 1573 or n.das(a)cto.int <http://mailer.eddiction.co.uk/_webscripts/emaillog.php?dbid=29&caid=215&coi…> Click here to unsubscribe <http://mailer.eddiction.co.uk/_webscripts/emaillog.php?dbid=29&caid=215&coi…>

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Re: [kictanet] Short Code spamming
by James Kagwe 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

I have a problem with the same media house and the most unfortunate thing is that they have a newspaper onto which they give instructions on subscribing but not unsubscribing. I know that they know themselves and if they do not willingly give both the instructions I think they should be taken to KACC on charges of fraud. They should give customers a chance to subscribe and subscribe in their own volition but not trap them in. Regards, James Kagwe ________________________________ From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of wesley kiriinya Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:29 PM To: James Kagwe Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Short Code spamming A guy I know is having problems with being spammed on his phone from a 6006 short code. Unfortunately it seems the mobile phone operator isn't getting to the bottom of it. Who handles these types of issues? Unfortunately I also had a similar problem with one of our media houses and I had to get rid of my sim card even after making 3-4 calls and following there instructions on how to stop. When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -R. Buckminster Fuller.

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Re: [kictanet] New DG
by Catherine Adeya 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Correct Wainana and thanks for that! N ----- Original Message ---- From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org> To: Catherine Adeya <elizaslider(a)yahoo.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:40:24 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] New DG I would assume Nyaki meant "effective engagement" rather than "effective management" Regards Wainaina On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Walu, Your suggestion for 3.5 is good though I think it should simply be 'How to organize Associations for Effective Managment with the Government. Unless I heard wrong, KTN Sunrise news this morning announced Mr Charles Kinyanjui Njoroge as the new CCK DG. Nyaki ----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> To: elizaslider(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:31:33 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Forum Agenda - Lets focus Harry, Indeed it would be a public forum - but to what extend has the message gone outside Nairobi given that most listservers have subscribers in NRB? Maybe there's need to have the traditional notice in the print media. As for the Agenda proposed and copied below, 1. Forum Objectives 2. Association presentations 3. General Discussion 4. Way forward I would add - 3.5. How to Organise the different Associations for effective engagement with Govt. walu. nb: meanwhile, unconfirmed reports from my moles indicate that a new DG for CCK has been unveiled. Anybody with such a copy? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: wainaina(a)madeinkenya.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wainaina%40madeinkenya… -- Made in Kenya Network P. O. Box 72031 - 00200 Nairobi. Kenya Tel: +254-20-3590451 Cel: +254-722-811171 Cel: +254-735-370840 www.madeinkenya.org www.bungesms.com www.pamonet.org

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CCK finally picks the Director General
by Michael Ngaruiya 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Finally CCK has a new boss htpp://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=51355 htpp://www.bdafrica.com Regards, Mike --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Unsubscribe To: mikengaru(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 5:00 AM Hi, Please enter your subscription/unsubscription details at: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Regards, Brian On Jul 21, 2008, at 2:54 PM, <info(a)targetmarketingafrica.com> wrote: Hi, Please unsubscribe me from the mailing list. Please put my personal email i.e. fanisanne(a)gmail.com Target Africa, Peponi Road, Westlands. P.O.BOX 18731- 00100 Nairobi, Kenya. Tel: +254 20 2010629 Cell:+254 720 278136_______________________________________________kictanet mailing listkictanet@lists.kictanet.or.kehttp://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.netUnsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: mikengaru(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mikengaru%40yahoo.com

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Catherine Adeya 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hope I am not time-barred....I vote Eng. Rege. ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> To: elizaslider(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:04:24 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum I vote David Otwoma. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 3 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 14 5) David Otwoma - 3 6) Fred Murunga - 1 On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Jotham Kilimo <jokilimo(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

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by info＠targetmarketingafrica.com 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

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Forum Agenda - Lets focus
by Harry Hare 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Dear Colleagues, Now that we have democratically identified a facilitator for the forum, can we collectively discuss the agenda of the meeting? This will help in making sure that we achieve what we want to do at the forum. So to begin with, I had floated some issues, so probably we could use the next few days to "panel beat" and come up with a concise programme for the forum. I reproduce the ideas I had floated earlier for you indulgence. Harry +++++++++++++++++ 1. Forum Objectives "Clearly articulate the purpose of the forum and the expected outputs, this is important so that we can have a focussed discussion" 2. Association presentations "Brief presentations by the associations sharing their mandate, governance, objectives, activities, achievements, plans and membership composition" 3. General Discussion "Questions, Answers, Concerns etc raising from the association presentations@ 4. Way forward "General discussion on how associations could collaborate and offer high quality leadership to the sector. Agree on joint activities that have a national appeal that can work as bonding sessions" African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House 604 Limuru Road, Old Muthaiga PO Box 49475 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Cel +254 725 650044 Land +254 20 3741646/7 <http://www.africanedevelopment.org> www.africanedevelopment.org June/July 2008 Training Opportunities VSAT Feild Eng. 18-20 June Supply Chain Management 24-27 June Fibre Optic Technician 1-4 July Knowledge Management 8-11July Space is limited Book Now! P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

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Spoilt Vote & Business Summit
by Bill Kagai 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM, <wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >From the list, I would vote for either Florence Etta or Eng. James > Rege, based on previous work. > > Further, I would openly vote against Tabitha Seii. > > Regards, > Wainaina Brian and the electoral commission, Would I be in order in requesting that the above vote be declared 'spoilt' and the voter given an opportunity to vote again??? PS. In the outskirts of the Business Summit at Kampala Serena, I have seen Paul Kukubo and was wondering if there are any other ICT chaps around, we could probably have lunch or a drink in the evening. Bill

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Four Reasons Most Startups Fail...
by saidimu apale 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

>From the Harvard Business Review: http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/taylor/2008/07/four_reasons_most_startups_… 1) "make something people want" - "What are people forced to do now because what you plan to do doesn't exist yet?" 2) "be willing to let [your] ideas change" - "the founders of Reddit came ... with a plan to help people order fast food on their cell phones. When everyone agreed it wasn't exactly a killer idea, the desperate search for a new idea led to the launch of their successful company." 3) "Don't worry too much about money" - "... today, unlike back in the mid-90s, you've got the MBAs working for the technologists, rather than the other way around. 4) "be benevolent"... act in the long-term best interests of customers, as opposed to the short-term best interests of [the business] - "people will rally around you" with ideas, improvements, and word-of-mouth marketing If only number 3) was true in Kenya. There's certainly not enough venture cap. flowing, and most certainly it's the technologists working/slaving for the MBAs (and policy wonks). The KICTAnet/Skunkworks divide. Any policy prescriptions to be derived from the summary, especially around number 3) ? Saidi

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Nigeria Oil Prices from NY Times
by Joseph Manthi 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Wana KICTANET: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-nigeria-oil-decay.html LAGOS (Reuters) - With oil prices at record highs, government coffers in the world's eighth biggest oil exporter are swollen to unprecedented levels. Yet the vast majority of Nigeria's 140 million people live in no better conditions than their neighbors in West Africa, the least developed region of the world's poorest continent. The same is true of many of Africa's major oil producers -- including Angola, Sudan, Equatorial Guinea and Chad -- but Nigeria's sheer size and 2-million-barrel-per-day output make the poverty-wealth contrasts more striking. Nigeria has earned the equivalent in today's terms of nearly $1.2 trillion from oil production over the past four decades, the sort of money that enabled oil-producing Gulf states like Qatar to develop some of the strongest economies in the Arab world. But its four state-owned refineries are not fully operational, largely due to mismanagement and vandalism, its distribution network is chaotic, and it relies heavily on fuel imports, which cost around $4 billion each year. In Lagos, a mega-city of more than 10 million people, the elite sip champagne on exclusive islands -- albeit to the incessant drone of diesel generators -- while the masses live in mainland slums without water or electricity. Ask an average Nigerian on the streets of Lagos how he is and he will likely tell you "things dey hard, but we dey manage" -- it's tough but we're getting by. Healthcare is virtually non-existent, the roads are potholed, unemployment and crime are on the rise, and Nigeria is suffering from spiraling food prices<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/food_prices/…> . "Nigeria is making more money from oil now, but look at the street we are living on," said Efe Oyingbo, pointing to a dirt road where passers-by waddle through muddy waters and motorists try to navigate cavernous, submerged potholes. A mother of two, her frozen food business in the suburb of Okota has virtually collapsed because she cannot afford the high cost of gasoline. The government has frozen the price of fuel but retailers have taken advantage of short supplies to more than double the price of diesel in some parts of Nigeria in the last few months. The number one complaint is a stop-start power supply. Exasperated residents of Lagos call the National Electric Power Authority (NEPA) "Never Expect Power Always." Nigeria's generation capacity has plunged to less than 1,000 megawatts from 3,000 MW a year ago, largely due to lack of maintenance at power stations. South Africa, with a third of Nigeria's population, has over 10 times that capacity. Much of Nigeria goes without power for weeks at a time. The crisis has closed hundreds of factories and slashed millions of jobs. Since taking office a year ago, President Umaru Yar'Adua<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/y/umaru_yaradua/…>has been promising to declare a national emergency on power -- during which billions of dollars would be invested in the sector -- most recently saying he will do so this month. A committee he set up to review the sector said last month Nigeria needs $85 billion to meet its domestic power demand, estimated at roughly 20,000 MW. That dwarfs the $10 billion former President Olusegun Obasanjo spent on the sector during his eight-year tenure, an amount which failed to deliver on his pledge to raise capacity to 10,000 MW by the end of 2007. A parliamentary probe showed more than $50 million of that money had been paid to non-existent companies. Yar'Adua has said his country was also looking for ways of bringing private money into infrastructure investment. Nigeria's public health system, education and roads are all in a shambles, largely due to corruption and mismanagement during decades of military rule which ended in 1999. But close to a decade of civilian administration has given Nigerians little to cheer about. "We've seen over the last few years that the military has no monopoly on ineptitude in government," said Antony Goldman, an independent expert on Nigeria. "By normal measures, Lagos does not function. It is not organized chaos, there often seems barely the pretence of organization ... People survive in spite of what government does not because of it," he said. Lagos state governor Babatunde Fashola has acknowledged the problems and said the state must spend more than $700 million over the next five years to improve the road network alone. Nine out of 10 Nigerians live on less than $2 a day, their lives blighted by poor infrastructure and a lack of public services resulting from decades of endemic corruption. The cost of rice has climbed dramatically in the past few months, doubling for some varieties. Consumer inflation rose to 9.7 percent in May, fuelled by a sharp rise in food prices. "We don't sell anymore, you can see the freezer is open," Oyingbo said, sitting with two other women in front of her shop, pointing to an empty freezer in the unlit room. "This is what we do now, sit and talk about Nigeria and also pray and hope that God will do a new thing." -- Joseph Manthi CEO MEO Ltd http://www.meoltd.com

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Re: [kictanet] International Conference on Information and Communication Technologies and Development
by David Otwoma 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Heeks <richard.heeks(a)manchester.ac.uk> Date: Jul 18, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: International ICT4D Conference 2009: Second Call for Papers To: Richard Heeks <richard.heeks(a)manchester.ac.uk> The 3rd IEEE/ACM International Conference on Information and Communication Technologies and Development (ICTD2009) will be held 17-19 April 2009 in Doha, Qatar (http://www.ictd2009.org) This conference will act as a focal point for new scholarship in the field of ICT and international development. Confirmed speakers include a keynote by William H. Gates, Chairman of Microsoft Corporation. We invite submission of conference papers relating to use of ICTs for development according to the following schedule: September 22, 2008 Submissions due January 15, 2009 Final decisions sent out to authors February 20, 2009 Camera-ready papers due April 17-19, 2009 Conference CONFERENCE SUBMISSIONS AND PUBLICATION Only original, unpublished papers in English will be considered, through double-blind review. Word-length limit: 8000 words. Submission must be through the conference website (http://www.ictd2009.org) and authors should follow IEEE formatting, detailed online. All papers will be printed in the conference proceedings, and some will be developed for a journal special issue. If authors would like quick feedback on an outline or abstract (especially to gauge topic appropriateness), they can submit this to the Program Committee no later than August 22nd, using the designated email address: ictd2009.abstracts(a)gmail.com. This is voluntary and is not part of the formal peer review process. Richard Heeks, Rahul Tongia Programme Committee Co-Chairs, ICTD2009 -- Karim A. Kasim ICTD/Community Access Centers Coordinator Telecentre.org Knowledge Sharing and Community Content Facilitator-Middle East and North Africa Tel: (202)578 4840–6 (Ext 251) Fax: (202)578 4847 Mobile :(20)10 170 8474 Cairo, Egypt Work: karim.kasim(a)undp.org, Personal/Consultancy: karimkasim(a)gmail.com Academic: kasim(a)aucegypt.edu, www.undp.org.eg www.ictfund.org.eg

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Fwd: [Skunkworks] NYT Article on Skunkworks, Kenya coders and Google Kenya
by Gakuru, Alex 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> Date: Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:55 AM Subject: [Skunkworks] NYT Article on Skunkworks, Kenya coders and Google Kenya To: skunkworks(a)my.co.ke http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/business/worldbusiness/20ping.html Pass it on! "The distinctive digital experience in Nairobi inspires confidence in its youthful community of programmers, bloggers and Web enthusiasts. Over the past year, about 600 people in Nairobi — most under 25 — have coalesced into a group called Skunk Works, sharing ideas and encouraging new businesses. In June, it held an all-day workshop that included sessions on using the Android phone operating system from Google, developing applications for digital maps and creating content for mobile phones." By the way, Wilfred was working on the Ushahidi iPhone app when Gregg talked to him. :) Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com www.ushahidi.com _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks(a)my.co.ke http://ole.kenic.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Blog http://skunkworks-ke.blogspot.com Beta Blog http://blog.my.co.ke

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Expensive Software Systems [Update]
by wesley kiriinya 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

Following the previous post about the KPA software system which costs > 200M (about 450M including hardware machines), I found the following interesting: http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8717&Item… In summary, the system only uses Internet Explorer (which makes one wonder whether a requirements document was ever created). I can already see your eyes twitching and teeth grinding so I will stop there... And it seems like KRA’s Simba's system is IE only also. I hope this area of ICT is covered in the policy so that Kenyans (whom I believe are very talented) are empowered to take up such projects. Regards. When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -R. Buckminster Fuller.

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NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW
by Gakuru, Alex 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Excuse cross post to ke-users, kictanet and skunkworks lists. Kindly plan to attend to further influence ICT policy changes. I Look to forward to attending the meetings myself. Regards, Alex Gakuru ( forwarding on request by Esther Wanjau.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Esther WANJAU <esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke> Date: Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:50 PM Subject: NATIONAL WORKSHOP FOR ICT POLICY REVIEW To: "gakuru(a)gmail.com" <gakuru(a)gmail.com>, "alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com" <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> My Name is Esther Wanjau. I am the head of ICT in the Ministry of Information and Communications. The PS has requested me to invite all of you to the National ICT Policy Review Workshop on 28th - 29th July 2008 at Hilton Hotel to discuss the EA Harmonized ICT Policy. The PS will use the occasion to briefly present the Kenya ICT Policy Review Framework and invite you to contribute before the drafting begins. Attached is the Invitation Letter. Esther Esther Wanjau Assistant Director/ICT Ministry of Information and Communications Tel: +254 20 251152/250517 Cell: +254 722 867361 email: esther.wanjau(a)information.go.ke

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Final Tally Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Brian Longwe 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Congratulations to Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - it is abundantly clear the the general community has a huge amount of confidence in his independence, neutrality, maturity and diplomacy. The final tally reads as follows: 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 3 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 15 5) David Otwoma - 5 6) Fred Murunga - 1 Thank you all so very much for taking part in this. We will now proceed to contact them individually in the following order. IF 1) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP = YES, THEN STOP OR GOTO 2 IF 2) David Otwoma = YES, THEN STOP OR GOTO 3 IF 3) Florence Etta= YES, THEN STOP OR GOTO 4 IF 4) Engineer Kariuki= YES, THEN STOP OR GOTO 5 IF 5) Fred Murungah= YES, THEN STOP OR GOTO 6 IF 6) Ambassador Tabitha Seii = YES, THEN COME BACK TO KICTANET AND ASK AGAIN (As you can see my coding prowess dates back to BASIC on a Commodore 64k or Sinclair 8k - hehehehehe!) Regards, Brian

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KICTANET ICT POLICY DISCUSSIONS
by chelimo kenneth 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Dear All, I vote for David Otwoma - A able, enthusiastic and very resourceful person. Thanks] Ken Chelimo Coordinator Kenya Network of Telecentres (KICTANET) Tel: +254 722 809 690

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FW: Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Harry Hare 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

I had sent this earlier to begin putting the agenda in place. Harry From: Harry Hare [mailto:harry@africanedevelopment.org] Sent: 15 July 2008 15:14 To: 'Brian Longwe' Cc: 'kictanet-lists' Subject: RE: [kictanet] Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum Here is my first attempt to the agenda Harry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Forum Objectives "Clearly articulate the purpose of the forum and the expected outputs, this is important so that we can have a focussed discussion" 2. Association presentations "Brief presentations by the associations sharing their mandate, governance, objectives, activities, achievements, plans and membership composition" 3. General Discussion "Questions, Answers, Concerns etc raising from the association presentations@ 4. Way forward "General discussion on how associations could collaborate and offer high quality leadership to the sector. Agree on joint activities that have a national appeal that can work as bonding sessions" From: Brian Longwe [mailto:blongwe@gmail.com] Sent: 15 July 2008 13:01 To: harry(a)africanedevelopment.org Cc: kictanet-lists Subject: [kictanet] Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum Hi all, So let's start off with a few days of throwing around possible agenda areas. This hould give us a sense of what issues have high priority and how much time we need to set aside to deal with them. I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your proposals as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then other (or yourself) can contribute add/subtract. Then after a reasonable period we can coalesce these inputs into a single agenda for the meeting and also decide on what format would best suit the dialogue/debate on thiat particular item. e.g. for the different ICT organisations I think a Panel format, where each group gets 15 minutes to "share" - then the audience gets a chance to "interact" - and a session moderator does a wrap up. another thing that I think would be good is to have an "Open Mic" session where for a period of time any participant can air/vent any view for 3 minutes. any other suggestions? Regards, Brian Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 11/07/2008 06:47

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Re: [kictanet] KICTANET ICT POLICY DISCUSSIONS
by chelimo kenneth 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Dear Wainaina and other KICTANET Members, Sorry for the mix up. You are right on the wrong Acroynm appended after my title . There was a mix up here. Iam actually the coordinator of the Kenya Network of Telecentres (KenTel) and not KICTANET of course. Thanks Wainaina for highlighting the mix up. Ken Chelimo Coordinator Kenya Network of Telecentres (KenTel) www.ken-tel.org Tel +254 722 809 690 Sorry --- On Fri, 7/18/08, wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com <wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com <wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICTANET ICT POLICY DISCUSSIONS To: chelimoken(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 2:32 AM Chelimo...your signature states you are the Coordinator of KICTANET....(Kenya Network of Telecentres).... did i miss something? On 7/18/08, chelimo kenneth <chelimoken(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > > > I vote for David Otwoma - A able, enthusiastic and very resourceful person. > Thanks] > > > > Ken Chelimo > > Coordinator > > Kenya Network of Telecentres (KICTANET) > > Tel: +254 722 809 690 > > > > -- Made in Kenya Network P. O. Box 72031 - 00200 Nairobi. Kenya Tel: +254-20-3590451 Cel: +254-722-811171 Cel: +254-735-370840 www.madeinkenya.org www.bungesms.com www.pamonet.org

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Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Brian Longwe 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

One of the items on the agenda will be a panel where reps from different ICT stakeholder organisations will/can share/inform/update/enlighten the community about the organisations. Could we start by listing those organisations? 1) CSK 2) KIF ..... Regards, Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Brian Longwe 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

So the current list of proposed facilitators reads as follows: 1) Engineer Kariuki, National Communications Secretariat 2) Florence Etta 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP 5) David Otwoma, National Science Council (did I get that right?) Have I missed any.... Regards, Brian On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > And humble too > > That's why I propose him > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 15, 2008, at 1:26 PM, "David Otwoma" <otwomad(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Joe, > > > > You flatter me. > > > > Our Society (http://www.kenyabposociety.or.ke/) has an able Chair and > > she would best articulate us on such a forum as evolving from here. In > > addition to the contemporary positions of chair, secretary and > > treasurer as required by the relevant regulations we also have evolved > > special Committees (e.g. Standard & Ethics which I chair and have > > seven members, but more important Training, Marketing, Membership, > > Events....among others). > > > > We also are young, just turned one year and hence would learn more > > from our seniors here who have been in the game for longer times. > > However, we pride ourselves as trail blazers in BPO & CC and are > > having teething issues. But we wont develop crooked teeth, with your > > watchfullness, hopefully. > > > > You flatter me. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > David > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Can I suggest the The Chief Science Secretary in the Ministry of > >> Science and > >> Technology David Otwoma who has just successfully chaired the > >> Standards > >> Committee of the BPO discussion? > >> > >> Well travelled, well spoken and with great leadership skills > >> > >> Joe > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your > >>>> proposals > >>>> as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then > >>>> other (or > >>>> yourself) can contribute add/subtract. > >>> > >>> Brian - This is also called 'moving forward'. Thanks for getting > >>> us here. > >>> > >>> I think the first agenda could be the facilitation issue before it > >>> gets > >>> out of hand. Dr. Ndemo has already demonstrated 'top of the pyramid' > >>> leadership by agreeing to host the forum. By extension, maybe we > >>> could all > >>> be happy if we agreed a body mandated to drive policy e.g. National > >>> Communications Secretariat facilitates the session. I am thinking > >>> Dr. > >>> Kulubi...Eng. Kariuki. > >>> > >>> [My immediate thoughts]. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Joseph Manthi > >> CEO > >> MEO Ltd > >> http://www.meoltd.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: otwomad(a)gmail.com > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otwomad%40gmail.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > David Otwoma, > > Chief Science Secretary, > > National Council for Science and Technology, > > Utalii House 9th Floor, > > Mobile tel: +254 722 141771, > > Office tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, > > P. O. Box 29899 - 00100, Nairobi, Kenya > > email: otwomad(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)ncst.go.ke > > www.ncst.go.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Short Code spamming
by wesley kiriinya 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

A guy I know is having problems with being spammed on his phone from a 6006 short code. Unfortunately it seems the mobile phone operator isn't getting to the bottom of it. Who handles these types of issues? Unfortunately I also had a similar problem with one of our media houses and I had to get rid of my sim card even after making 3-4 calls and following there instructions on how to stop. When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -R. Buckminster Fuller.

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CSK Newsletter
by kathae＠cskonline.org 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

I am Peter Ndonga Kathae, System administrator at The Computer Society Of Kenya (CSK). I would like to invite all those interested to subscribe to our monthly newsletter which is also available to non-CSK members to subscribe by visiting the website www.cskonline.org Kathae

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No Need to regulate IT Practitioners???
by waudo siganga 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

The following story is gripping America today: - A network administrator has locked up a multimillion dollar computer system for San Francisco that handles sensitive data and is refusing to give police the password, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Monday.[1]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/148427 Some will remember we had a similar situation here in Kenya in Turkwel some years back. Waudo References 1. http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/148427 People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).

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Morgan Stanley casts shadow over Safaricom
by Mike Theuri 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8847&Item… "We are just seeing a constant supply of shares which has really dampened the market price, we suspect there are some foreign investors who are exiting the market in a big way," said a top stockbroker who did not want to be named. Fingers are now pointing to the foreign investors pool that benefited from a special reservation of two billion shares, especially after news emerged that Morgan Stanley Investment Bank, the IPO joint lead transaction advisors who were in charge of setting the IPO price in the international pool and allotting shares to all international applicants took up close to half of the shares that were reserved for foreign investors. <http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8847&Item…>

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 121
by kathae＠cskonline.org 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

I vote for Eng. Rege. Thanks

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

I vote Eng James Rege so that brings his total to 3 and rthe highest so far! FE ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: florence.etta(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 10:41:20 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 2 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 2 5) David Otwoma - 1 6) Fred Murunga - 1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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FW: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Simbo Ntiro - Sad News
by Harry Hare 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

For those who knew Simbo Ntiro...very sad news indeed. Harry From: eThinkTankTz(a)yahoogroups.com [mailto:eThinkTankTz@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sawe Sent: 14 July 2008 13:51 To: ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com; SWOPnet(a)dgroups.org Subject: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Simbo Ntiro - Sad News Dear colleagues, Today I am dreadfully sorry to have to share tragic information with you. This is that our brother Simbo Ntiro has suffered a terrible car crash in the early hours of Sunday morning (13th July), and that he passed away at the scene, here in Dar es Salaam. We have therefore lost a founding member of our online community and a very energetic participant in national, regional and global efforts in the realm of "ICT for Development". He was to turn only 47 years old next month, and so may have been expected to have plenty more to contribute in many ways. It appears that for some undetermined reason, he lost control of his Honda CRV on Ali Hassan Mwinyi Road, just after passing the small feeder road out of Leader's Club. This caused his car to mount the high pavement and it was stopped by a tree that was hit sideways between the front wheel and the driver's door. We were told that he died instantly of his injuries. I had spent some time with him during the evening before, and he had at the time a very positive mindset brought on by a whole range of issues, one of which was a family get-together due for Sunday afternoon, towards which he had been shopping. And we also discussed a number of forthcoming work-related events which we were preparing jointly. My deepest sympathies go to all among us who knew or interacted with him in any way. Arrangements are being made to set up an online condolence book, so that we may be able to express our sorrow and share our support and memories with his family. 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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by James Kagwe 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hon. Eng. James Rege -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of per-erick(a)i360microsystems.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:27 PM To: James Kagwe Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum Dear I propose Eng. James Rege > Hi, > > From the list,I Propose Hon Eng.James Rege. > > Regards, > Njuguna. > > wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >From the list, I would vote for either Florence Etta or Eng. James >> Rege, based on previous work. >> >> Further, I would openly vote against Tabitha Seii. >> >> Regards, >> Wainaina >> >> On 7/16/08, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So the current list of proposed facilitators reads as follows: >>> >>> 1) Engineer Kariuki, National Communications Secretariat >>> 2) Florence Etta >>> 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii >>> 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP >>> 5) David Otwoma, National Science Council (did I get that right?) >>> >>> Have I missed any.... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> And humble too >>>> >>>> That's why I propose him >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2008, at 1:26 PM, "David Otwoma" <otwomad(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Joe, >>>>> >>>>> You flatter me. >>>>> >>>>> Our Society (http://www.kenyabposociety.or.ke/) has an able Chair and >>>>> she would best articulate us on such a forum as evolving from here. >>>>> In >>>>> addition to the contemporary positions of chair, secretary and >>>>> treasurer as required by the relevant regulations we also have >>>>> evolved >>>>> special Committees (e.g. Standard & Ethics which I chair and have >>>>> seven members, but more important Training, Marketing, Membership, >>>>> Events....among others). >>>>> >>>>> We also are young, just turned one year and hence would learn more >>>>> from our seniors here who have been in the game for longer times. >>>>> However, we pride ourselves as trail blazers in BPO & CC and are >>>>> having teething issues. But we wont develop crooked teeth, with your >>>>> watchfullness, hopefully. >>>>> >>>>> You flatter me. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can I suggest the The Chief Science Secretary in the Ministry of >>>>>> Science and >>>>>> Technology David Otwoma who has just successfully chaired the >>>>>> Standards >>>>>> Committee of the BPO discussion? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well travelled, well spoken and with great leadership skills >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your >>>>>>>> proposals >>>>>>>> as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then >>>>>>>> other (or >>>>>>>> yourself) can contribute add/subtract. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian - This is also called 'moving forward'. Thanks for getting >>>>>>> us here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the first agenda could be the facilitation issue before it >>>>>>> gets >>>>>>> out of hand. Dr. Ndemo has already demonstrated 'top of the >>>>>>> pyramid' >>>>>>> leadership by agreeing to host the forum. By extension, maybe we >>>>>>> could all >>>>>>> be happy if we agreed a body mandated to drive policy e.g. National >>>>>>> Communications Secretariat facilitates the session. I am thinking >>>>>>> Dr. >>>>>>> Kulubi...Eng. Kariuki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [My immediate thoughts]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Joseph Manthi >>>>>> CEO >>>>>> MEO Ltd >>>>>> http://www.meoltd.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>>>>> This message was sent to: otwomad(a)gmail.com >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otwomad%40gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> David Otwoma, >>>>> Chief Science Secretary, >>>>> National Council for Science and Technology, >>>>> Utalii House 9th Floor, >>>>> Mobile tel: +254 722 141771, >>>>> Office tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, >>>>> P. O. Box 29899 - 00100, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> email: otwomad(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)ncst.go.ke >>>>> www.ncst.go.ke >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Munyao Longwe >>> e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com >>> cell: + 254 722 518 744 >>> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com >>> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: per-erick(a)i360microsystems.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/per-erick%40i360mic rosystems.com > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jkagwe(a)kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkagwe%40kippra.or. ke

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Inge Vervloesem 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi, I also vote for Eng. James Rege. Cheers, Inge

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi Brian, I would vote for Eng Rege. This would thus bring his tally to 3 and the highest! Cheers, FE ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: feanywhere(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 10:41:20 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 2 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 2 5) David Otwoma - 1 6) Fred Murunga - 1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya ICT Sector Stakeholder Public Forum (was Re: Legislation and Discipline & Ethics)
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

My dear Brian, May I humbly publicly offer my services to facilitate such a Forum since I am NOT Kenyan I wil not take sides. Besides, I am passionate about developments in this sector and in the continent at large and I love to bring people together to discuss constructiuvely. Trust me. Cheers, Florence Etta Alternative Email:florence.etta@gmail.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> To: feanywhere(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2008 4:39:57 PM Subject: [kictanet] Kenya ICT Sector Stakeholder Public Forum (was Re: Legislation and Discipline & Ethics) Hi all, We are proposing a Public Forum on Thursday 31st of July to be held at a suitable venue in Nairobi. The objective will be to provide all the different ICT stakeholder organisations within Kenya a chance to introduce themselves and their policies to the public. There will also be opportunity to evaluate Kenya's ICT ecosystem, especially with regards to the different entities, their missions, roles and goals. As well as provide organisations such as KEPSA with an opportunity to share their view/vision on how they expect ICT sector input/engagement. Formal announcement will be posted once details have been worked out, but in the meantime please pencil this into your schedules. We can also explore the possibility of an IP stream for the Diaspora... if there is interest in tracking this. Warm regards, Brian On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Bill Kagai wrote: Daktari, I agree with you to some extent. If I were to chronicle the genesis of the problem, some organisations were/are feeling choked by KIF especially in relation to KEPSA. In my opinion, this means that KIF has managed to do many things better than others to get where they are. However, that should not mean that KIF now becomes the blanket representative of the industry in matters pertaining to KEPSA. Other specialised organisations e.g. Skunkworks, CSK, Kictanet etc should have equal opportunity to adress their sector specific concerns with any stakeholder. [Government/Industry/Public]. E.g. If a foreign software house came to Government seeking advice on how to partner with the local industry, why should KIF seize the opportunity when we know that Skunkworks is more adept in those matters?? [Caveat - organisations mentioned for purpose of elaboration only] The crux of the matter is that these new organisations do not come up because of sector specific concerns they wish addressed...service, bandwidth, policy, payment gateways etc but because officials running established organisations have become 'Mugabes' resisting change and growing old [literally] in those positions. You are best placed to provide leadership here by insisting that you will only engage with organisations that run efficient structures with clear mandates from their electorates and I will follow by paying membership in all organisations that I feel will help air my business concerns in the industry. Actually, I will be comfortable dealing with your ministry through my sector organisation instead of all us queueing at your reception. And I will hold my organisation leader responsible and thus create more time for you to engage with others. Waudo::: You know what am talking about. Be brave...wachia vijana usukani. Bill On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: Bill, In my view, such fracases are an indication of the level of activity in our sector. We however must exercise our freedom of speech with responsibility. If nothing was happening, nobody will feel squeezed. We must show the world that inspite of our differences, we are able to remain focused. I wish we spent more energy on diffusion of technoloy. We have limitless opportunities in this sector that we must encourage more foreign equity participation to ensure a flow of technology transfer. This is what the NICs did. Asante. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Brian Longwe 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi all, So let's start off with a few days of throwing around possible agenda areas. This hould give us a sense of what issues have high priority and how much time we need to set aside to deal with them. I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your proposals as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then other (or yourself) can contribute add/subtract. Then after a reasonable period we can coalesce these inputs into a single agenda for the meeting and also decide on what format would best suit the dialogue/debate on thiat particular item. e.g. for the different ICT organisations I think a Panel format, where each group gets 15 minutes to "share" - then the audience gets a chance to "interact" - and a session moderator does a wrap up. another thing that I think would be good is to have an "Open Mic" session where for a period of time any participant can air/vent any view for 3 minutes. any other suggestions? Regards, Brian

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Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Alex Gakuru 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Kevit: I am afraid you have not clarified well enough. I shall not ask you further KEPSA questions although on your previous email you told Waundo "As the director of KEPSA I welcome CSK and any other association to full membership of KEPSA." Apparently this now appears to have changed. And I doubt Waundo complained of "exclusion" not of his private self, rather of CSK? I could be wrong but he could clarify. On Jun 23, 2008 it was announced that a "Local Software Industry Association established" with, among others, "3.1 Objective, Market the local software industry to venture capitalists." (see announcement document attached) Was it registered under Societies Act( Read Public interest) or as Private (non-or-for-profit) Company? I found it strange it was formed 3 days to aour very successful and OPEN BarCamp. Is this one also under your umbrella? On the links you sent onlist: www.innovation-africa.net Domain Name: INNOVATION-AFRICA.NET Registrar: TUCOWS INC. Whois Server: whois.tucows.com Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net Name Server: ULTRA103.UK2.NET Name Server: ULTRA104.UK2.NET Status: redemptionPeriod Updated Date: 24-jun-2008 Creation Date: 14-may-2007 Expiration Date: 14-may-2008 I tried www.innovation-africa.co.ke >> was re-directing to >> www.kif.or.ke ( but today it now says "under construction") I gather Centurion Systems offices accommodates KIF, is that correct? What I am trying is to understand is who speaks in the background when when "KIF" issues "stakeholders" statements on an issue,how representative or public service-oriented, good governance, in trying to understand new and old associations' motives. With above information, it would clear doubts of public policy participation illegitimacy or inappropriate public procurement involvement(s). For the sake of our growing transparent ICTs abundantly rewarding enterprising citizens. Alex --- On Wed, 7/9/08, kevit desai <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> wrote: > From: kevit desai <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > To: alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "'kictanet-lists'" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:50 AM > Hi Alex, > > I'm pleased to clarify as much as I can. > > Kepsa has an open membership of PRIVATE sector industry and > market segment > associations in almost all economic sectors. Independence: > KEPSA decisions > are dependent on members wishes, and members are drawn from > the private > sector. In fact, NGO's are not approached for > membership in KEPSA, neither > are government bodies including parastatals. KIF follows > the same approach > for membership and decision-making. No NGO's and > government agencies are > member ofn KIF. However, KEPSA and KIF consult on a REGULAR > BASIS with all > those stakeholders. Having said that, KEPSA and KIF have no > obligation to > offer service to non members. > > Hopefully this helps to clarify. Do get in touch with Sam > Mwaura of KEPSA or > Marcel Werner of KIF. > > > Kevit > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Gakuru [mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com] > Sent: 09 July 2008 04:45 > To: kevit desai > Cc: kictanet-lists > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > e-Commerce in Kenya > > Kevit, > > > How does KEPSA and KIF governance relate ensuring decisions > independence? > The political issue here may be monopolization to the > extent of clouding out > other actors thereby generating conflict. The Motive Theory > steps in. > > We investigate the effects of competition on subjects' > attitude towards > cooperation. Three groups face three economic environments > with different > degrees of competition, from a benchmark case with no > competition at all up > to a perfect competition case. Subjects contribute > generously to a public > project in the absence of competition, whereas they > contribute very little > in the presence of a maximum degree of competition. A > diminishing attitude > towards cooperation clearly emerges as the degree of > competition increases. > Therefore, if cooperation does enhance well-being, the > maximum degree of > competition may be not efficient. > > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba > 6a6f51d7da9d40d806eb> > > react. > > > --- On Tue, 7/8/08, kevit desai > <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> wrote: > > > From: kevit desai > <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > e-Commerce in Kenya > > To: alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, "'KICTAnet ICT > Policy Discussions'" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:14 PM > > Hi Waudo, > > > > As the director of KEPSA I welcome CSK and any other > > association to full > > membership of KEPSA. We look forward to a meaningful > > partnership. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevit Desai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: waudo siganga [mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com] > > Sent: 08 July 2008 13:55 > > To: Kevit Desai > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy > > Discussions' > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > e-Commerce in Kenya > > > > > > > > Hello Kevit - I think one needs to be careful when > handling > > KEPSA and KIF at > > the same time. Do not use your foothold in KEPSA to > promote > > KIF at the > > expense of other associations. The explanation is very > > simple: KEPSA was > > formed as a focal point, a bringing together > characterised > > by INCLUSIVITY. > > KIF on the other hand is an independent association > and the > > nature of such > > an association is EXCLUSIVITY (through membership > > mechanism). I would like > > to see the promotion of more associations on the KEPSA > ICT > > Board, not just > > KIF. Please give us space. > > > > Waudo > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:07:07 +0300, "Kevit > Desai" > > <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > > > > Hi Alex, > > > > > > > > KEPSA (info(a)kepsa.or.ke) private sector policy body > with > > its own governance > > structure. Elected as a director in private capacity > and as > > KIF vice > > chairman. > > > > > > > > KIF (secretariat(a)kif.or.ke) membership-based industry > > association, member > > of KEPSA's ICT section. Elected as vice-chairman. > > > > > > > > Centurion Systems Ltd: (www.centurionsystemsltd.com) > > private company, > > director, member of KIF. > > > > > > > > Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems Ltd > > > > Chairperson IEEE - Kenya Section > > > > Chairperson - Engineering Students Exhibition > > > > Governor - KEPSA > > > > Director - KEPSA > > > > Director - Innovation Africa > > > > Director- Kenya ICT Board > > > > Vice Chairman - Kenya ICT Federation > > > > BOA - AIESEC > > > > Member - National Strategy for University Education > > > > Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable Business(GSB)-UNDP > Kenya > > > > General Co-Chair - Africon 2009 > > > > > > > > 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse, > > > > Raphta Rd > > > > , Westlands -Nairobi > > > > P.O. BOX 66031 - 00800 Nrb. > > > > Tel:+254 20 4440102/3 Fax: +254 20 4440104 CDMA: 020 > > 2049750 > > > > Mobile: +254 722 517067 > > > > > > > > http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com > > > > http://www.ieee.org > > > > http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke > > > > http://www.innovation-africa.net > > > > http://www.kepsa.or.ke > > > > http://www.powerup.co.ke > > > > http://www.aiesec.org > > > > http://www.africon2007.co.za > > > > http://www.kif.or.ke > > > > htpp://www.ict.go.ke > > > > http://www.globalcompact.org > > > > http://www.undp.org/business/gsb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: waudo siganga [mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:40 PM > > To: kevit desai > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy > > Discussions' > > Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > e-Commerce in Kenya > > > > > > > > Hello Kevit - Since you sent this message to KICTANET > I can > > answer it on > > > > the same forum. I think the picture being painted > about a > > rosy situation > > > > including "collaboration" is simply not > true. The > > reason to be frank is > > > > that there a few in your KIF who do not want any other > > association to > > > > have a voice in KEPSA or to interact with Government. > Could > > you as a > > > > KEPSA director ensure that all interested associations > > including the > > > > major ones not in KIF are allowed room to contribute > in > > KEPSA? It can be > > > > sad if you mis-use your position in KEPSA only to > promote > > KIF and crack > > > > down on those you feel are in the way. > > > > Waudo > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:31 +0300, "kevit > desai" > > > > <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > > > > > Hi Walu, > > > > > Associations are welcome to be members of KEPSA. > I > > would like to confirm > > > > > that the KEPSA/KIF relationship is vibrant. We > would > > like to do a lot > > > > > more > > > > > and welcome more support. > > > > > We appreciate Waudo's contributions at our > last > > ministerial stakeholder > > > > > forum. > > > > > Collaboration is the way forward. > > > > > > > > > > Kevit Desai > > > > > KEPSA Director > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: > > > kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] > > > > > On Behalf Of waudo siganga > > > > > Sent: 07 July 2008 19:02 > > > > > To: kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > > > > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy > > Discussions > > > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and > Regulation for > > e-Commerce in > > > > > Kenya > > > > > > > > > > Hi Walu - I am catching you loud and clear on > GPRS > > somewhere in the > > > > > bush. I did bring out the issue of regulating the > IT > > (or ICT) Profession > > > > > on this list a few months ago. But the rather > > unenthusiastic response I > > > > > got gave me the sense that possibly this was not > the > > correct list since > > > > > many of the subscribers appear just interested in > ICT > > Policy rather than > > > > > being actual IT Experts. Within the next two > weeks > > there will be another > > > > > list for professionals and you will be informed > (you > > have the > > > > > qualifications, don't you??). We are pushing > for a > > registration board > > > > > like thise done last yeaer for nutritionists and > > Procurement > > > > > Practitioners. There is a lot of work going on > > unheralded. All we need > > > > > is a champion or chanpions in the right place. > > > > > Waudo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT), > "John > > Walubengo" > > > > > <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> said: > > > > > > Marcel, > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like quite some work has been > ongoing in > > this > > > > > > area...unfortunately it seems as if it was > > restricted within KIF only? > > I > > > > > > wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, > Waudo r > > u there?) or > > > > > > Information Security Audit & Control > > (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just to > > > > > > mention some of the big IT Associations in > Kenya > > were involved. I beg to > > > > > > be enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > This brings in an old question - who really > > represents the IT Profession > > > > > > in Kenya? Shem has been on record as saying > that > > IT is the only > > > > > > discipline where we seem to lack bodies with > the > > same authority as LSK > > > > > > (Law Society of Kenya), IEK (Institute of > > Engineers of Kenya), Medical > > > > > > Practictioners Board amongst others to > regulate > > the IT Profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the > bill > > either (and has a > > > > > > different objective anyway). But time has > come > > to really start thinking > > > > > > of regulating the IT profession, even as we > > struggle to regulate the > > > > > > industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead > on > > this, but they have been > > > > > > awfully quite except when they award prizes > at > > the end of the year > > (Waudo > > > > > > I know u will kill me offline but I just had > to > > say it!). > > > > > > > > > > > > KEPSA? very reputable and effective > particularly > > in the Manufacturing > > > > > > sector but on IT? am not sure they have been > as > > effective - particularly > > > > > > because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the > IT > > industry has been 'cloudy' > > > > > > for lack of a better word...Can for example > CSK > > or ISACA be part of > > > > > > KEPSA without being part of KIF? I again > need to > > be enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > O.K. I agree I did digress, but just > thinking > > loudly and saying that as > > > > > > we think of regulating electronic > transactions, > > we also need to > > > > > > simultaneously start regulating the IT > > profession..but maybe I am wrong. > > > > > > Particularly because regulation can and > often > > leads to suppression... > > > > > > > > > > > > walu. > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner > > <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Marcel Werner > > <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and > > Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > > > > > > > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > > > > > > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, > "KICTAnet > > ICT Policy Discussions" > > > > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM > > > > > > > Legislation and Regulation for > e-Commerce in > > Kenya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing > Note # > > 3 - Report - > > > > > > > Public Panel 19 > > > > > > > June 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will > add > > at least one > > > > > > > percent point growth > > > > > > > to Kenya's overall economic growth > > within five years. > > > > > > > This is contingent > > > > > > > upon the adoption of legislation that > > supports electronic > > > > > > > transactions. *Kenya, > > > > > > > as an emerging economy and regional > leader, > > lags behind in > > > > > > > having a legal > > > > > > > framework for e-commerce in place. The > > current situation is > > > > > > > an anachronism > > > > > > > hampering national development, placing > > provincial centres > > > > > > > at a > > > > > > > disadvantage, and harming global > > competitiveness. Both > > > > > > > external and internal > > > > > > > trade require the new framework.The > Kenyan > > private sector > > > > > > > strongly supports > > > > > > > e-commerce legislation, as well as > > legislation of the > > > > > > > Information and > > > > > > > Communication Technology sector that > > guarantees an open > > > > > > > market and promotes > > > > > > > innovation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation > > supporting > > > > > > > electronic transactions > > > > > > > represents the single most powerful > > innovation opportunity > > > > > > > in the legal > > > > > > > framework of the ICT sector. > Legislation is > > needed to: > > > > > > > -Legalize e-commerce transactions by > > recognizing an > > > > > > > electronic signature > > > > > > > -Manage and control e-commerce risks > > > > > > > -Remove e-commerce barriers > > > > > > > KIF has studied drafts currently > circulating > > in the public > > > > > > > domain, the > > > > > > > Information and Communications Bill, > 2008, > > and the > > > > > > > Electronic Transactions > > > > > > > Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which > are > > of the highest > > > > > > > technical > > > > > > > standards. Public panels and hearings > with > > sectors of the > > > > > > > economy (including > > > > > > > tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been > held on > > 6th and 27th > > > > > > > May, 4th June and > > > > > > > 19th June. The Kenyan private sector > has > > expressed > > > > > > > overwhelming support for > > > > > > > urgent legislation of e-commerce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suggested improvements in Bills - The > public > > panels and > > > > > > > hearings to date > > > > > > > have yielded the following important > issues > > for improvement > > > > > > > in the current > > > > > > > Bills: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Provisions on who can > prosecute > > are missing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Liability of Internet > Service > > Providers must be > > > > > > > demarcated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Clarification on which > commercial > > documents are > > > > > > > excluded from > > > > > > > proposed legislation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Eliminate any ambiguity on > > admissibility of > > > > > > > electronic evidence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Need for data protection and > > privacy provisions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The Bills are more lenient > on > > e-commerce fraud > > > > > > > than on > > > > > > > traditional fraud > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Remove inconsistencies in > > determining crimes and > > > > > > > punishments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Provisions for the inclusion > of > > cyber-crime > > > > > > > within the scope of > > > > > > > the Extradition Act > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Creation of an Administrator > for > > e-commerce laws > > > > > > > whose functions > > > > > > > will be policy implementation and > advisory, > > as a > > > > > > > multi-sectoral body with > > > > > > > industry associations including KIF, > lead > > regulator > > > > > > > Communications > > > > > > > Commission of Kenya and co-regulator > Central > > Bank of Kenya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gains in tourism, agriculture, > healthcare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Industry sectors, notably the tourism > > industry, are > > > > > > > expressing their desire > > > > > > > to see e-commerce covered by law. In > > tourism, on-line > > > > > > > travel bookings have > > > > > > > exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in > Europe. > > Decline in > > > > > > > off-line bookings is > > > > > > > in ample evidence. Those destinations > that > > cannot legally > > > > > > > support abundant > > > > > > > on-line booking, such as Kenya, will > loose > > market share. > > > > > > > E-commerce in > > > > > > > agriculture will improve > small-holder's > > living > > > > > > > standards. Great impact is > > > > > > > expected notably in the coffee sector > that > > provides > > > > > > > livelihood to at least 5 > > > > > > > million Kenyans, as well as in the > dairy > > industry. > > > > > > > Healthcare efficiency and > > > > > > > affordability will improve by on-line > health > > data > > > > > > > management systems. > > > > > > > Business operators in rural towns and > rural > > centres have > > > > > > > also expressed keen > > > > > > > interest, as they see scope to address > > issues of trade > > > > > > > efficiency and > > > > > > > security in rural Kenya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is e-commerce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E-commerce is a method of trading that > > replaces paper-based > > > > > > > documentation by > > > > > > > a mutually binding electronic protocol > > between buyers and > > > > > > > sellers. > > > > > > > E-commerce is gaining ground globally > and > > has become an > > > > > > > irreversible trend. > > > > > > > Many trading partners are already > practicing > > e-commerce, by > > > > > > > mutual > > > > > > > agreement, also in Kenya. However, > > e-commerce will reach > > > > > > > its full potential > > > > > > > when parties that do not know each > other are > > able to trade > > > > > > > with full mutual > > > > > > > protection under the law. This will > benefit > > large numbers > > > > > > > of consumers and > > > > > > > businesses, including small-holder > farmers, > > tourism > > > > > > > operators, small-scale > > > > > > > industry and services providers in > almost > > any business > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About KIF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Kenya Information and Communication > > Technology > > > > > > > Federation (KIF) > > > > > > > represents the ICT industry with > Government > > and with > > > > > > > private sector bodies > > > > > > > e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers > and > > Kenya Private > > > > > > > Sector Alliance > > > > > > > KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. > KIF is > > a legally > > > > > > > registered membership based > > > > > > > Association, made up of trade > associations > > and professional > > > > > > > bodies within > > > > > > > the national ICT industry, as well as > > commercial > > > > > > > corporations. KIF has been > > > > > > > accepted as the private sector voice of > ICT > > by Government. > > > > > > > KIF contributes > > > > > > > ideas to key sectors like healthcare, > > education, > > > > > > > agriculture, construction > > > > > > > industry, and last but not least > supports > > e-government > > > > > > > development. KIF is a > > > > > > > membership-driven organisation. Members > > bring issues on > > > > > > > public policy and > > > > > > > industry development forward for KIF to > take > > action. Issues > > > > > > > include: > > > > > > > innovation promotion, education > improvement, > > duties, taxes > > > > > > > and levies, rural > > > > > > > ICT investment. 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Regional Internet Registries to Appeal for IPv6 Investment at OECD Conference
by Vincent Ngundi 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Regional Internet Registries to Appeal for IPv6 Investment at OECD Conference on "The Future of the Internet Economy" 16 June 200 The longer investment is deferred, the greater the risk of Internet growth slowing down and additional costs being incurred Danger of arrested development: The cost of migrating the Internet infrastructure to IPv6 will be significant, but the cost of not making this investment will end up being far higher. Korea, 17th June, 2008 – The Number Resource Organization (NRO), which is made up of the world's five Regional Internet Registries (RIRs), AfriNIC, APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC and the RIPE NCC, has issued an appeal for investment in Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) infrastructure. The global RIR community will be represented by the NRO at the June OECD Ministerial Meeting in Seoul, Korea, where it will support this urgent call. The RIRs are responsible for managing the allocation, assignment and registration of Internet number resources (IPv4 addresses, IPv6 addresses and Autonomous System (AS) Numbers). With approximately 85% of all available IPv4 Internet addresses already in use by May 2008, experts predict that the remaining stock of unallocated IPv4 addresses will be consumed by around 2011. This may have an impact on new Internet users and users of Internet devices that are not IPv6 enabled. In contrast, the pool of available IPv6 numbers will exceed 340 billion billion billion. Internet addresses are allocated on an 'as-needed' basis. Firstly, they are allocated to the RIRs from a central pool and then each RIR distributes them within their region. This system prevents any one country from running out of addresses significantly before its neighbours within the same region, and ensures that the supply to all regions is maintained for as long as possible. Geoff Huston, Chief Scientist at APNIC will call for a significant acceleration of investment in the infrastructure vital for effective IPv6 adoption, as part of his speech on Internet industry challenges: "At present, only a small percentage of the Internet infrastructure supports IPv6. Significant investment in the infrastructure of the network is required to enable the transition from IPv4 to IPv6. The cost of migrating the Internet infrastructure to IPv6 is significant when considering the global scope of the task, but the cost of not making this investment will end up being far higher. And, ultimately, it's the end user population who will have to bear this cost. The longer this investment in IPv6 deployment is deferred the greater the risk of costly fractures in the fabric of the network, and additional costs being incurred." Axel Pawlik, Managing Director of the RIPE NCC states: "IPv6 is vital to the Internet economy. In order to sustain this rapidly growing, global industry, we urge all stakeholders to help accelerate the widespread deployment of IPv6. We have already seen the EU make a positive declaration of intent regarding IPv6 planning and we are confident that IPv6 space will provide a platform for innovation in IP-based services and applications as long as the infrastructure is in place.' Tarek Mohamed Kamel, Minister for the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology, Egypt, is speaking alongside Geoff Huston at the OECD Ministerial Meeting. Kamel comments: "The current dialogue on IPv6 between global governments, business leaders, technical experts and academics is crucial to ensure that users around the world continue to benefit from the innovation that new infrastructure and new Internet space will bring. Our efforts to ensure the free and open access attributed to the development of the Internet must be continued so that we can fully realise the benefits in the near future." ### Notes to Editors About the Number Resource Organization (NRO) The NRO serves as a coordinating mechanism for the five RIRs to act collectively on matters relating to the interests of RIRs. www.nro.net About the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs)Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) are independent, not-for-profit membership organisations that support the infrastructure of the Internet through technical coordination.There are five RIRs in the world today. Currently, the Internet Assigned Numbers Association (IANA) allocates blocks of IP addresses and ASNs, known collectively as Internet number resources, to the RIRs, who then distribute them to their members within their own specific service regions. RIR members include Internet Service Providers (ISPs), telecommunications organisations, large corporations, governments, academic institutions and industry stakeholders, including end users. The five RIRs are: AfriNIC - Africa region http://www.afrinic.net APNIC - Asia and Pacific region http://www.apnic.net ARIN - Canada, many Caribbean and North Atlantic islands, and the United States http://www.arin.net LACNIC - Latin America and parts of the Caribbean http://www.lacnic.net/en/index.html RIPE NCC - Europe, Parts of Asia and the Middle East http://www.ripe.net Each RIR performs a range of critical functions including: The reliable and stable allocation of Internet number resources (IPv4, IPv6 and AS Number resources) The responsible storage and maintenance of this registration data The provision of an open, publicly accessible database where this data can be accessed RIRs also provide a range of technical and coordination services for the Internet community. Media contacts: Renske Law, Blaise Hammond or Lucie Smith, Racepoint Group +44(0)020 8752 2274/ +44 (0)20 8752 3222 renske.law(a)racepointgroup.com / lucie.smith(a)racepointgroup.com/ blaise.hammond(a)racepointgroup.com ----------- Vincent Ngundi Administrative Manager KENIC - The Kenya Network Information Center http://www.kenic.or.ke vincent(a)kenic.or.ke [T] +254 20 4450057/8 [C] +254 20 2398036 [M] +254 733 790073 [F] +254 20 4450087 "dot KE for Every Name in Kenya!"

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Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Discipline & Ethics
by Tim Rick 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

I would love to know how many of the people here met Kevit and the results.the discussion is just making me realise Kenyans have woken up after the Grand Saga.So Kevit?Any good discussions you had and way forward? 2008/7/13 <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulationfore-Commerce in Kenya (kevit desai) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:37:11 +0300 > From: "kevit desai" <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulationfore-Commerce in Kenya > To: <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <E1KHy1I-0008Rn-Cw(a)mail01.safaricom.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Why don't we all meet at the Jacaranda, land mark, Westlands at 5.00pm > today. At the poolside. > > Informal discussion. I will be waiting. > > Kevit Desai > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit <kictanet-bounces%2Bkevit>= > centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] > On Behalf Of wesley kiriinya > Sent: 13 July 2008 10:52 > To: kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulationfore-Commerce in Kenya > > > > > Gentlemen, > > Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would > have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.) > > If there is a higher appointing authority that picks these so called > foreigners over Kenyans then it's them to blame (if there is a good > reason). > > That said, as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion. Sorry > to > say but it is embarrassing to read some of these posts. > > Regards. > > > --- On Sun, 7/13/08, waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> wrote: > > From: waudo siganga <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulation > fore-Commerce in Kenya > To: kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "'kictanet-lists'" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:19 AM > > Hi All - I am the one that asserted that Kenyan (ICT) associations should > be > run by Kenyans and I stand by that. It has absolutely nothing to do with > racism. Every country has policies to protect its people. Even in the USA > you can only stand for president if you were born American. Is that racism? > Associations are at the heart of pushing for policy and it pains me to see > foreigners jostling Kenyans out of the way and being the ones running up > and down the Government corridors carrying "position papers". > > I find it deplorable that Brian is using his position on the list to > threaten to unsubscribe those who do not agree with his views and consign > them to the Nyayo House dungeons. Brian you have been partisan on these > issues throughout. You are issuing "apologies" to people you already sided > with and they are quickly "accepting". At one time you were saying we visit > KIF to see how they run meetings as though suggesting Kenyans do not know > how to run meetings. Is this the Brian I knew or someone using your mail > account? Tafadhali, wacha wananchi wasema hata kama uko pande ile ingine. > > Waudo > > > > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:52:02 +0300, "kevit desai" > <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > > Dear Brian, > > Apologies accepted. And thank you Mr Chairman. > > > > Wambui it is acceptable to challenge governance structures and also wish to > know more about associations. How else will we seek your support with some > off the very exciting things we are doing. > > > > What deeply concerns me is the notion that associations should be run by > Kenyans. We all have to rise well above this, especially when we see the > success and contributions of some people. Kenya 's grateful to have > people like Mike Eldon, Steve Smith, Michael Joseph, Marcel Werner , and > others, they have contributed so much. Even to the peace process let alone > the advances in ICT's. > > Kictanet must stamp out any form of racist remarks. This is the lowest of > the lowest, and contributes to disengagement. Rules have to be put in > place. > > > > Your leadership is a sigh of relief. And I look forward to you uniting us > all to a common vision of ICT's for National development. > > > > I am waiting.. > > > > Kevit Desai > > > > > _____ > > > From: kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit <kictanet-bounces%2Bkevit>= > centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] > On Behalf Of Brian Munyao Longwe > Sent: 12 July 2008 09:50 > To: kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > Cc: kictanet-lists > Subject: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation > fore-Commerce in Kenya > > > > Dear Marcel/Kevit/KIF, > > > > I will personally take this opportunity to apologize on behalf of KICTANET > for the ills which KIF has suffered in the recent dialogue. > > > > As Kevit (and you) have clearly pointed out, KiF has welcomed anyone with > questions to have these answered in person while at the same time providing > as many answers as this media allows. > > > > I know both yourself and Kevit to be men of integrity and seriously > dedicated to the advancement of IcTs in Kenya . I now humbly beg you to > forgive the indiscretions by some of our members in their misuse of this > forum. > > > > As Chairperson of this Network I will not stand by and see this forum > turned > into the kind of low and despicable rant-fests that have characterised > certain other Kenyan lists and blogs. > > > > I hereby request a public apology to KIF on this list, from Alex, by > Tuesday, failing which I will suspend his (and any other member who > persists > in mudslinging) list membership for one month. > > > > I once again humbly appeal to all members of this list to desist from the > kind of myopic, vindictive banter that we have recently witnessed. We must > work *together* for a better Kenya , and this will not come through > tomfoolery and irresponsible words/actions. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Brian Munyao Longwe > > Chairman, KICTANET > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 11 Jul 2008, at 10:44 PM, " Marcel Werner " <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello Kictanet membership, > > The Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) is a reputable organization, duly registered > and maintaining a proper governance system with a registered, paid-up > membership base consisting of equally reputable ICT associations and > companies. > > KIF has done a number of useful things over the period of its existence > (see > Kevit's posting, earlier this week). > > Recent postings on the Kictanet list appear to discredit our own > organization KIF and its members with insinuations and slander. This is > unacceptable. > > The Kictanet web-site shows KIF as a member of Kictanet (nr 8). We do not > wish to be associated with an organization that lends itself to unhelpful > campaigns by individuals, campaigns that can go on with impunity. There is > no need at all to damage our and other's initiatives that are being > implemented in the public interest (see again Kevit's posting) by informal > networks with doubtful legitimacy. Please note that KIF has never signed > any > membership instrument with Kictanet, neither have we been charged nor have > we paid for any membership fees. (page 9 of the Kenya ICT Action Network > Competence Status Survey Assessment Report (posted on > <http://www.kictanet.or.ke/> http://www.kictanet.or.ke/) highlights the > membership problems of Kictanet. Personally I had highlighted this > membership problem already a year ago in the interview that Kictanet held > with us some time mid 2007 in the evaluation study of its role and > performance - I have to conclude today that membership management has never > been addressed at Kictanet). We instruct Kictanet to remove KIF from its > list of its appointed "Members". > > We look forward to be part of a Kictanet that has a legitimate constituency > because there is need for a place of dialogue between civil society and > private sector. Kictanet is not playing such a role today at all and > creates > a space for civil society to alienate itself from the private sector. > Kictanet needs to clean up its house. > > We need serious dialogue, between all sectors in society, and we need to > reach out internationally. We don't have time for any nonsense. > > Best regards, Marcel Werner , chairman of KIF :) > > > > 2008/7/11 kevit desai < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com>: > > Alex, > Kenya ICT Federation is a serious and well established organization, > supported by its members who are also reputable and well established > organizations. > I confirm Centurion systems does not receive any money from KIF. Please > verify the Business advocacy funds contributions and conditions since your > information is false. > > It is not right to publish insinuations affecting KIF and its membership on > a forum like Kictanet. Especially, since I have extended an invitation to > meet so that I can give further explanations. I am waiting to gauge the > interest in this invitation. > > For now I close my participation. > > Kevit Desai > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gakuru , Alex [mailto: <mailto:alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> > alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com] > Sent: 11 July 2008 17:24 > > To: kevit desai > Cc: kictanet-lists > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > > Kevit; > > KIF recently received Kshs 3.5 grant million from a certain business fund. > I am curious centurion system hosts them under their CSR? > > Public forum to explain all dealings openly and transparently?. > > regards, > > On 7/11/08, kevit desai < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sylvester, > > > > > > > > Thank you for all the interest shown. Some of you would like further > > information on the following activities: > > > > > > > > Historical & present- Impact > > > > > > > > - Ministerial stakeholder forum (regular sectoral discussions > > private sector - Government, with KEPSA) > > > > - Power up with ICT nation - wide awareness campaigns (2004, > 2005, > > 2006) > > > > - E-Government - municipal councils > > > > - Open source software community > > > > - E-commerce legislation > > > > - Engineering student exhibition - 1997 - 2008 > > > > - ICT Bills (2006 - 2008) > > > > - Creation of INFOCOM Ministry (2003) > > > > - National ICT Policy formulation (2004 - 2006) > > > > - Tax reforms 2006, 2007, 2008 > > > > - National innovation system > > > > - University Education Reforms Task Force (2006 - current) > > > > - PSDS > > > > - Africon 2009 > > > > - Public panels with Kenya ICT Board > > > > > > > > Associations: > > > > > > > > - KEPSA > > > > - KIF > > > > - IEEE > > > > - Kenya software industry association > > > > > > Please confirm your interest in a meeting. This will allow me to gauge > level > > of participation so as to plan the venue and also mobilize the relevant > > leaders. If you are not on board, it would be great to have you on board. > We > > need your support > > > > > > > > Kevit Desai > > > > > > > > Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems > > > > Chairperson IEEE - Kenya Section > > > > Chairman - Engineering students exhibition > > > > Governor - KEPSA > > > > Director - KEPSA > > > > Director - Innovation Africa > > > > Director- Kenya ICT Board > > > > Vice Chairman - Kenya ICT Federation > > > > BOA - AIESEC > > > > Member - National Strategy for University Education > > > > Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable Business(GSB)-UNDP Kenya > > > > General Co-Chair - Africon 2009 > > > > 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse, > > Raphta Rd > > , Westlands - Nairobi > > > > P.O. BOX 66031 - 00800 Nrb. > > > > Tel:+254 20 4440102/3 Fax: +254 20 4440104 CDMA: 020 2049750 > > > > Mobile : +254 722 517067 > > > > <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> > http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com > <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> > > > > <http://www.ieee.org/> http://www.ieee.org <http://www.ieee.org/> > > > > <http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/> > http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke > <http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/> > > > > <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> http://www.innovation-africa.net > <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> > > > > <http://www.kepsa.or.ke/> http://www.kepsa.or.ke > <http://www.kepsa.or.ke/> > > > > <http://www.powerup.co.ke/> http://www.powerup.co.ke > <http://www.powerup.co.ke/> > > > > <http://www.aiesec.org/> http://www.aiesec.org <http://www.aiesec.org/> > > > > <http://www.africon2007.co.za/> http://www.africon2007.co.za > <http://www.africon2007.co.za/> > > > > <http://www.kif.or.ke/> http://www.kif.or.ke <http://www.kif.or.ke/> > > > > <http://www.ict.go.ke/> www.ict.go.ke <http://www.ict.go.ke/> > > > > <http://www.globalcompact.org/> http://www.globalcompact.org > <http://www.globalcompact.org/> > > > > <http://www.undp.org/business/gsb> http://www.undp.org/business/gsb > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: > > kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com > <http://centurionsystemsltd.com/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit <kictanet-bounces%2Bkevit>= > centurionsystemsltd.com > <http://centurionsystemsltd.com/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> ] > > On Behalf Of Brian Longwe > > Sent: 10 July 2008 18:57 > > To: <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > > > > Cc: kictanet-lists > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in > Kenya > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sylvester, > > > > Thank you so very much for highlighting yet another way in which > KICTANET > > is beneficial to the communicat at large. through KICTANET we all learn > so > > many good things that are happening in/around - and can then make our own > > decisions as to whether to follow up/engage. > > > > Regards, > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Sylvester Kisonzo > > < <mailto:skisonzo@securenet.co.ke> skisonzo(a)securenet.co.ke> wrote: > > > > > > > > And where can I read (or get information) about all these new names to > me? > > KEPSA, KIF, etc? Until recently when I joined this group, I had never > heard > > of them. So I wonder how all the 'stakeholders' have all along been > > involved. > > > > > > > > SK > > > > > > > > > > From: > > kictanet-bounces+skisonzo=gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> > @lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+skisonzo <kictanet-bounces%2Bskisonzo>= > gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> > @lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> ] > > On Behalf Of Joseph Manthi > > Sent: 09 July 2008 20:47 > > To: <mailto:skisonzo@gmail.com> skisonzo(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Cc: kictanet-lists > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in > Kenya > > > > > > > > > > > > Waudo: > > I would like to pose a simple question: > > > > Why are these associations needed? > > > > Joe > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM, waudo siganga < > <mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com> emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > > wrote: > > > > Brian - DFID set up KEPSA in 2001 to unite the private sector voice. The > > idea was to bring together EXISTING associations. Someone got early wind > > that ICT was one of the identified sectors and decided to register a NEW > > association ostensibly as an umbrella body. The real umbrella body was > > actually supposed to be KEPSA, under its ICT Board. Period. Why did > > someone find a pressing need to form a NEW association??? > > > > Anyway right now that is history and KEPSA ICT Board is on the right > > track with all associations on board. We have to struggle to make sure > > it stays that way. I do not understand why you seem to be insisting on > > someone visiting KIF. What is the value addition? What can one discover > > there??? Some say there are personal companies underneath and KIF is the > > front but I do not wish to walk in that mud. My interest is KEPSA ICT > > Board not being equated with KIF. > > Waudo > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:31:54 +0300, "Brian Munyao Longwe" > > < <mailto:blongwe@gmail.com> blongwe(a)gmail.com> said: > > > Actually if my memory serves me right. KIF is KEPSAs "child" i.e when > > > KEPSA decided to have sector clusters KIF was established *by* KEpsa > > > to act as the umbrella for ICT private sector. > > > > > > But I stand to be corrected if I'm getting my facts wrong. But if I am > > > right then it *is* important for any critics to understand the inner > > > workings by visiting. > > > > > > I am urging action instead of just talk. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On 09 Jul 2008, at 6:39 PM, "waudo siganga" < > <mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com> emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Brian - I do not think that the issue is an interest in the > > > > internal > > > > operations of KIF. We are talking governance in the context of > KEPSA/ > > > > KIF > > > > relationship, something also of interest to the consumer community. > > > > For > > > > your information last year all stakeholders held a meeting in KEPSA > > > > and > > > > decided to open membership to all interested Private Sector > > > > associations. This was after it was observed that the hitherto > > > > stranglehold on KEPSA by KIF meant that the sector was not > adequately > > > > represented. Some people may have felt unhappy or even insecure with > > > > this development. The problem is that my friend Kevit, being the > KEPSA > > > > ICT director uses his position to constantly market KIF as if it is > a > > > > favoured player in KEPSA (e.g. "I would like to confirm that the > > > > KEPSA/KIF relationship is vibrant." - as if implying the other > > > > associations are dead) He is often busy promoting "KIF Positions" > > > > instead of "KEPSA Positions" including using KIF letterheads at the > > > > MSFs. I have misgivings about the current ICT leadership in KEPSA > > > > but I > > > > am hopeful things will change. > > > > > > > > Waudo > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:54:41 +0300, "Brian Munyao Longwe" > > > > < <mailto:blongwe@gmail.com> blongwe(a)gmail.com> said: > > > >> Hi Alex, > > > >> > > > >> I would find it hard to imagine how much more Kevit can explain to > > > >> you > > > >> about KIF. > > > >> > > > >> I would like to suggest that Kevit extend an invitation to you (and > > > >> anyone else who might be interested/concerned) to attend the next > KIF > > > >> meeting as an observer and see/feel the animal yourself. > > > >> > > > >> Brian > > > >> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > > >> > > > >> On 09 Jul 2008, at 3:45 PM, Alex Gakuru < > <mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Kevit: > > > >>> > > > >>> I am afraid you have not clarified well enough. I shall not ask > you > > > >>> further KEPSA questions although on your previous email you told > > > >>> Waundo "As the director of KEPSA I welcome CSK and any other > > > >>> association to full membership of KEPSA." Apparently this now > > > >>> appears to have changed. And I doubt Waundo complained of > > > >>> "exclusion" not of his private self, rather of CSK? I could be > wrong > > > >>> but he could clarify. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Jun 23, 2008 it was announced that a "Local Software Industry > > > >>> Association established" with, among others, "3.1 Objective, > Market > > > >>> the local software industry to venture capitalists." (see > > > >>> announcement document attached) Was it registered under Societies > > > >>> Act > > > >>> ( Read Public interest) or as Private (non-or-for-profit) Company? > I > > > >>> found it strange it was formed 3 days to aour very successful and > > > >>> OPEN BarCamp. Is this one also under your umbrella? > > > >>> > > > >>> On the links you sent onlist: > > > >>> > > > >>> <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> www.innovation-africa.net > <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> > > > >>> > > > >>> Domain Name: INNOVATION-AFRICA.NET <http://innovation-africa.net/ > > > > > >>> Registrar: TUCOWS INC. > > > >>> Whois Server: whois.tucows.com <http://whois.tucows.com/> > > > >>> Referral URL: <http://domainhelp.opensrs.net/> > http://domainhelp.opensrs.net <http://domainhelp.opensrs.net/> > > > >>> Name Server: ULTRA103.UK2.NET <http://ultra103.uk2.net/> > > > >>> Name Server: ULTRA104.UK2.NET <http://ultra104.uk2.net/> > > > >>> Status: redemptionPeriod > > > >>> Updated Date: 24-jun-2008 > > > >>> Creation Date: 14-may-2007 > > > >>> Expiration Date: 14-may-2008 > > > >>> > > > >>> I tried <http://www.innovation-africa.co.ke/> > www.innovation-africa.co.ke <http://www.innovation-africa.co.ke/> >> was > re-directing to >> > > <http://www.kif.or.ke/> www.kif.or.ke <http://www.kif.or.ke/> > > > >>> ( but today it now says "under construction") I gather Centurion > > > >>> Systems offices accommodates KIF, is that correct? > > > >>> > > > >>> What I am trying is to understand is who speaks in the background > > > >>> when when "KIF" issues "stakeholders" statements on an issue,how > > > >>> representative or public service-oriented, good governance, in > > > >>> trying to understand new and old associations' motives. > > > >>> > > > >>> With above information, it would clear doubts of public policy > > > >>> participation illegitimacy or inappropriate public procurement > > > >>> involvement(s). For the sake of our growing transparent ICTs > > > >>> abundantly rewarding enterprising citizens. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Alex > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, kevit desai > > < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> From: kevit desai < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > > > >>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce > > > >>>> in Kenya > > > >>>> To: <mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com > > > >>>> Cc: "'kictanet-lists'" > > < <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > >>>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:50 AM > > > >>>> Hi Alex, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I'm pleased to clarify as much as I can. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Kepsa has an open membership of PRIVATE sector industry and > > > >>>> market segment > > > >>>> associations in almost all economic sectors. Independence : > > > >>>> KEPSA decisions > > > >>>> are dependent on members wishes, and members are drawn from > > > >>>> the private > > > >>>> sector. In fact, NGO's are not approached for > > > >>>> membership in KEPSA, neither > > > >>>> are government bodies including parastatals. KIF follows > > > >>>> the same approach > > > >>>> for membership and decision-making. No NGO's and > > > >>>> government agencies are > > > >>>> member ofn KIF. However, KEPSA and KIF consult on a REGULAR > > > >>>> BASIS with all > > > >>>> those stakeholders. Having said that, KEPSA and KIF have no > > > >>>> obligation to > > > >>>> offer service to non members. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hopefully this helps to clarify. Do get in touch with Sam > > > >>>> Mwaura of KEPSA or > > > >>>> Marcel Werner of KIF. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Kevit > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>> From: Alex Gakuru [mailto: <mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> > alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com] > > > >>>> Sent: 09 July 2008 04:45 > > > >>>> To: kevit desai > > > >>>> Cc: kictanet-lists > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > > >>>> e-Commerce in Kenya > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Kevit, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> How does KEPSA and KIF governance relate ensuring decisions > > > >>>> independence? > > > >>>> The political issue here may be monopolization to the > > > >>>> extent of clouding out > > > >>>> other actors thereby generating conflict. The Motive Theory > > > >>>> steps in. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> We investigate the effects of competition on subjects' > > > >>>> attitude towards > > > >>>> cooperation. Three groups face three economic environments > > > >>>> with different > > > >>>> degrees of competition, from a benchmark case with no > > > >>>> competition at all up > > > >>>> to a perfect competition case. Subjects contribute > > > >>>> generously to a public > > > >>>> project in the absence of competition, whereas they > > > >>>> contribute very little > > > >>>> in the presence of a maximum degree of competition. A > > > >>>> diminishing attitude > > > >>>> towards cooperation clearly emerges as the degree of > > > >>>> competition increases. > > > >>>> Therefore, if cooperation does enhance well-being, the > > > >>>> maximum degree of > > > >>>> competition may be not efficient. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > < > < > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W5H-4N0GDV1-1/2/fb32f4c6e9ba > > > >>>> 6a6f51d7da9d40d806eb> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> react. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- On Tue, 7/8/08, kevit desai > > > >>>> < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> From: kevit desai > > > >>>> < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > > >>>> e-Commerce in Kenya > > > >>>>> To: <mailto:alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com > > > >>>>> Cc: <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, > "'KICTAnet ICT > > > >>>> Policy Discussions'" > > > >>>> < <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > >>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 1:14 PM > > > >>>>> Hi Waudo, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As the director of KEPSA I welcome CSK and any other > > > >>>>> association to full > > > >>>>> membership of KEPSA. We look forward to a meaningful > > > >>>>> partnership. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Kevit Desai > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _____ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> From: waudo siganga > > [mailto: <mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com> emailsignet(a)mailcan.com] > > > >>>>> Sent: 08 July 2008 13:55 > > > >>>>> To: Kevit Desai > > > >>>>> Cc: <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; > 'KICTAnet ICT Policy > > > >>>>> Discussions' > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > > >>>>> e-Commerce in Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hello Kevit - I think one needs to be careful when > > > >>>> handling > > > >>>>> KEPSA and KIF at > > > >>>>> the same time. Do not use your foothold in KEPSA to > > > >>>> promote > > > >>>>> KIF at the > > > >>>>> expense of other associations. The explanation is very > > > >>>>> simple: KEPSA was > > > >>>>> formed as a focal point, a bringing together > > > >>>> characterised > > > >>>>> by INCLUSIVITY. > > > >>>>> KIF on the other hand is an independent association > > > >>>> and the > > > >>>>> nature of such > > > >>>>> an association is EXCLUSIVITY (through membership > > > >>>>> mechanism). I would like > > > >>>>> to see the promotion of more associations on the KEPSA > > > >>>> ICT > > > >>>>> Board, not just > > > >>>>> KIF. Please give us space. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Waudo > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:07:07 +0300, "Kevit > > > >>>> Desai" > > > >>>>> < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hi Alex, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> KEPSA ( <mailto:info@kepsa.or.ke> info(a)kepsa.or.ke) private > sector policy body > > > >>>> with > > > >>>>> its own governance > > > >>>>> structure. Elected as a director in private capacity > > > >>>> and as > > > >>>>> KIF vice > > > >>>>> chairman. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> KIF ( <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke) > membership-based industry > > > >>>>> association, member > > > >>>>> of KEPSA's ICT section. Elected as vice-chairman. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Centurion Systems Ltd: ( <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> > www.centurionsystemsltd.com <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> ) > > > >>>>> private company, > > > >>>>> director, member of KIF. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems Ltd > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Chairperson IEEE - Kenya Section > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Chairperson - Engineering Students Exhibition > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Governor - KEPSA > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Director - KEPSA > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Director - Innovation Africa > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Director- Kenya ICT Board > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Vice Chairman - Kenya ICT Federation > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> BOA - AIESEC > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Member - National Strategy for University Education > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable Business(GSB)-UNDP > > > >>>> Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> General Co-Chair - Africon 2009 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Raphta Rd > > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> , Westlands - Nairobi > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> P.O. BOX 66031 - 00800 Nrb. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Tel:+254 20 4440102/3 Fax: +254 20 4440104 CDMA: 020 > > > >>>>> 2049750 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Mobile : +254 722 517067 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> > http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com <http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.ieee.org/> http://www.ieee.org > <http://www.ieee.org/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/> > http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke > <http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> > http://www.innovation-africa.net <http://www.innovation-africa.net/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.kepsa.or.ke/> http://www.kepsa.or.ke > <http://www.kepsa.or.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.powerup.co.ke/> http://www.powerup.co.ke > <http://www.powerup.co.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.aiesec.org/> http://www.aiesec.org > <http://www.aiesec.org/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.africon2007.co.za/> http://www.africon2007.co.za > <http://www.africon2007.co.za/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.kif.or.ke/> http://www.kif.or.ke > <http://www.kif.or.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> htpp:// <http://www.ict.go.ke/> www.ict.go.ke > <http://www.ict.go.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.globalcompact.org/> http://www.globalcompact.org > <http://www.globalcompact.org/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <http://www.undp.org/business/gsb> > http://www.undp.org/business/gsb > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>>> From: waudo siganga > > [mailto: <mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com> emailsignet(a)mailcan.com] > > > >>>>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:40 PM > > > >>>>> To: kevit desai > > > >>>>> Cc: <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; > 'KICTAnet ICT Policy > > > >>>>> Discussions' > > > >>>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for > > > >>>>> e-Commerce in Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hello Kevit - Since you sent this message to KICTANET > > > >>>> I can > > > >>>>> answer it on > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> the same forum. I think the picture being painted > > > >>>> about a > > > >>>>> rosy situation > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> including "collaboration" is simply not > > > >>>> true. The > > > >>>>> reason to be frank is > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> that there a few in your KIF who do not want any other > > > >>>>> association to > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> have a voice in KEPSA or to interact with Government. > > > >>>> Could > > > >>>>> you as a > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> KEPSA director ensure that all interested associations > > > >>>>> including the > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> major ones not in KIF are allowed room to contribute > > > >>>> in > > > >>>>> KEPSA? It can be > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> sad if you mis-use your position in KEPSA only to > > > >>>> promote > > > >>>>> KIF and crack > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> down on those you feel are in the way. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Waudo > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:31 +0300, "kevit > > > >>>> desai" > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> < <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Walu, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Associations are welcome to be members of KEPSA. > > > >>>> I > > > >>>>> would like to confirm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> that the KEPSA/KIF relationship is vibrant. We > > > >>>> would > > > >>>>> like to do a lot > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> more > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> and welcome more support. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> We appreciate Waudo's contributions at our > > > >>>> last > > > >>>>> ministerial stakeholder > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> forum. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Collaboration is the way forward. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kevit Desai > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> KEPSA Director > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> From: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com > <http://centurionsystemsltd.com/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit <kictanet-bounces%2Bkevit>= > centurionsystemsltd.com > <http://centurionsystemsltd.com/> @lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/> > > > >>>> ] > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Behalf Of waudo siganga > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Sent: 07 July 2008 19:02 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> To: <mailto:kevit@centurionsystemsltd.com> > kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cc: <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; > KICTAnet ICT Policy > > > >>>>> Discussions > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and > > > >>>> Regulation for > > > >>>>> e-Commerce in > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Walu - I am catching you loud and clear on > > > >>>> GPRS > > > >>>>> somewhere in the > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> bush. I did bring out the issue of regulating the > > > >>>> IT > > > >>>>> (or ICT) Profession > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> on this list a few months ago. But the rather > > > >>>>> unenthusiastic response I > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> got gave me the sense that possibly this was not > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>> correct list since > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> many of the subscribers appear just interested in > > > >>>> ICT > > > >>>>> Policy rather than > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> being actual IT Experts. Within the next two > > > >>>> weeks > > > >>>>> there will be another > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> list for professionals and you will be informed > > > >>>> (you > > > >>>>> have the > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> qualifications, don't you??). We are pushing > > > >>>> for a > > > >>>>> registration board > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> like thise done last yeaer for nutritionists and > > > >>>>> Procurement > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Practitioners. There is a lot of work going on > > > >>>>> unheralded. All we need > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> is a champion or chanpions in the right place. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Waudo > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT), > > > >>>> "John > > > >>>>> Walubengo" > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> < <mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> jwalu(a)yahoo.com> said: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Marcel, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> It looks like quite some work has been > > > >>>> ongoing in > > > >>>>> this > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> area...unfortunately it seems as if it was > > > >>>>> restricted within KIF only? > > > >>>>> I > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, > > > >>>> Waudo r > > > >>>>> u there?) or > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Information Security Audit & Control > > > >>>>> (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just to > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> mention some of the big IT Associations in > > > >>>> Kenya > > > >>>>> were involved. I beg to > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> be enlightened. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> This brings in an old question - who really > > > >>>>> represents the IT Profession > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> in Kenya ? Shem has been on record as saying > > > >>>> that > > > >>>>> IT is the only > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> discipline where we seem to lack bodies with > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>> same authority as LSK > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> (Law Society of Kenya ), IEK (Institute of > > > >>>>> Engineers of Kenya ), Medical > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Practictioners Board amongst others to > > > >>>> regulate > > > >>>>> the IT Profession. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the > > > >>>> bill > > > >>>>> either (and has a > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> different objective anyway). But time has > > > >>>> come > > > >>>>> to really start thinking > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> of regulating the IT profession, even as we > > > >>>>> struggle to regulate the > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead > > > >>>> on > > > >>>>> this, but they have been > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> awfully quite except when they award prizes > > > >>>> at > > > >>>>> the end of the year > > > >>>>> (Waudo > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I know u will kill me offline but I just had > > > >>>> to > > > >>>>> say it!). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> KEPSA? very reputable and effective > > > >>>> particularly > > > >>>>> in the Manufacturing > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> sector but on IT? am not sure they have been > > > >>>> as > > > >>>>> effective - particularly > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the > > > >>>> IT > > > >>>>> industry has been 'cloudy' > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> for lack of a better word...Can for example > > > >>>> CSK > > > >>>>> or ISACA be part of > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> KEPSA without being part of KIF? I again > > > >>>> need to > > > >>>>> be enlightened. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> O.K. I agree I did digress, but just > > > >>>> thinking > > > >>>>> loudly and saying that as > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> we think of regulating electronic > > > >>>> transactions, > > > >>>>> we also need to > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> simultaneously start regulating the IT > > > >>>>> profession..but maybe I am wrong. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Particularly because regulation can and > > > >>>> often > > > >>>>> leads to suppression... > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> walu. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner > > > >>>>> < <mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com> marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> From: Marcel Werner > > > >>>>> < <mailto:marcelcwerner@gmail.com> marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and > > > >>>>> Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> To: <mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com> jwalu(a)yahoo.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cc: <mailto:secretariat@kif.or.ke> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, > > > >>>> "KICTAnet > > > >>>>> ICT Policy Discussions" > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> < <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Legislation and Regulation for > > > >>>> e-Commerce in > > > >>>>> Kenya > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing > > > >>>> Note # > > > >>>>> 3 - Report - > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Public Panel 19 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> June 2008 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will > > > >>>> add > > > >>>>> at least one > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> percent point growth > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> to Kenya 's overall economic growth > > > >>>>> within five years. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> This is contingent > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> upon the adoption of legislation that > > > >>>>> supports electronic > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> transactions. * Kenya , > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> as an emerging economy and regional > > > >>>> leader, > > > >>>>> lags behind in > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> having a legal > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> framework for e-commerce in place. The > > > >>>>> current situation is > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> an anachronism > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> hampering national development, placing > > > >>>>> provincial centres > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> at a > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> disadvantage, and harming global > > > >>>>> competitiveness. Both > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> external and internal > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> trade require the new framework.The > > > >>>> Kenyan > > > >>>>> private sector > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> strongly supports > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> e-commerce legislation, as well as > > > >>>>> legislation of the > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Information and > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Communication Technology sector that > > > >>>>> guarantees an open > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> market and promotes > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> innovation. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation > > > >>>>> supporting > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> electronic transactions > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> represents the single most powerful > > > >>>>> innovation opportunity > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> in the legal > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> framework of the ICT sector. > > > >>>> Legislation is > > > >>>>> needed to: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -Legalize e-commerce transactions by > > > >>>>> recognizing an > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> electronic signature > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> -Manage and control e-commerce r > > > >>> < KENYA SOFTWARE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.doc> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> kictanet mailing list > > > >>> <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > >>> > > <http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > >>> > > > >>> This message was sent to: <mailto:blongwe@gmail.com> > blongwe(a)gmail.com > > > >>> 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Kictanet Tea Party
by Bill Kagai 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Sylvester Kisonzo <skisonzo(a)securenet.co.ke> wrote: > I suggest that an agenda for the meeting be agreed upon before the meeting. > This can be done in this forum, probably with inclusion of other interested > groups. > This reminds me of the Boston Tea Party<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_tea_party>which we can now call the Kictanet Tea Party. In the meeting, there will be the Sons of Liberty <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Liberty> for change and Thomas Hutchinson<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hutchinson_%28governor%29>for Status Quo. This is healthy and am sure we will all prevail if we all go with open minds. I support Kictanet initiating an agenda for consideration on this list.

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Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Florence Etta 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Hi all, It seems I have really stirred the hornet's nest by offering to facilitate a meeting. Ouch rather touchy here! I see. Just to clarify that I wasn't offering to make policy or even contribute to making one what I thought I was proposing is much like a football match's referee or lines man role afterall all I was offering was the role of an objective helper. Now that I see the great enthusiasm I therefore humbly withdraw this offer. Brian, Alex and all the rest of you I do sincerely wish you, the forum, etc all the very best and thanks a million for your very kind words. Florence Etta Co founder of KICTANet ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Rick <timrick(a)gmail.com> To: florence.etta(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2008 11:30:41 PM Subject: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Bill,manthi,waudo et all who support things the Kenyan way, Am suporting you 101%.Dr. Flo Etta, with all due respect,Its good you proposed to get your services in a system that needs to be cleaned up,but it would be kind if you can watch as we do it our way.As you can see,people like Joe are doing it the crude way,yet I still appreciate it cause I believe he has a point only that he just put it in a raw manner. Dr. Shem you should be around to help us facilitate these.I believe your experience and services would be of great importance in such a system. Bill I suggest we should also meet for tea before the 31st.Otherwise Brian Keep organising and posting the logistics. Don't I love these. 2008/7/14 <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulationfore-Commerce in Ken (waudo siganga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:49:02 +0300 From: "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulationfore-Commerce in Ken To: "Bill Kagai" <billkagai(a)gmail.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Message-ID: <1216064942.15291.1263456079(a)webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey Bill - I have to agree with everything you say in this mail. Brilliant stuff! Kenyans need to be promoted into all sorts of leadership positions. Secondly, the meeting being called is a good idea but it must be by and for KENYANS. We got to start believing in ourselves. If this meeting is organized with participation of all and with the small matter of involving only KENYANS taken into account, then I will definitely attend. I also agree with Bw. Manthi that Flo, though being the nice personality she is, should not chair the meeting as there are many qualified KENYANS. About the other mail promoting me to the honourable position of goat herder I have to disappoint you since I have been goat-herding for a number of years now. Everyone who knows me well knows that whenever I get a chance I am always upcountry in Mukangu village, Kakamega. This in addition to my other work as WITSA Director and Vice President (feel free to call me Mr Vice President), still serving my term on ICANN Nom-Com, on the Board of IFIP, Co-Chair of WITFOR busy preparing the next meeting in Vietnam 2009, Board Member at the ICC BASIS in Paris, etc. In WITSA I have to serve until after the 2012 World IT Congress in Canada - and that is renewable! You see, rearing goats does not exclude one from being busy. We need to meet over tea Bill, preferably in the village. Long live KENYA, Waudo On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:36:45 +0300, "Bill Kagai" <billkagai(a)gmail.com> sa id: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM, <[1]alkags(a)alkags.com> wrote: I wonder if protectionist policies would enhance our global competitiveness as a country in the larger scheme of things? Alkags, I have written too much (today), but kindly indulge me with this one last post I could not resist because it harbours on what I do for a living - information vending ;-) You know about Unilver Tea. Basic stats look like this...and another reason why you should subscribe to MediaCorp services NSE Sector Agricultural Company Unilever Tea Code UNLV Year Of 1925 Year of Listing 1972 Issued Shares 48,875,000.00 Share Float 11 All Time Low 36.00 All Time High 130.00 Market Capitalisation (Million) 2.26B Par Value Top 10 Shareholders Name % Shareholder1 Brooke Bond Group Ltd. - 88.23 Shareholder2 Board of Trustees Of NSSF 2.94 Shareholder3 KCB Staff Pension 0.52 Shareholder4 UAP Provincial Insurance 0.33 Shareholder5 Old mutual life Ass 0.29 Shareholder6 BBK Nominees 0.27 Shareholder7 Co-op Bank Kenya 0.22 Shareholder8 BBK Nominees 0.22 Shareholder9 xxxx Shareholder10 Ins Co. of East Africa 0.17 Top10Total Shares 93.37 Profit Before Tax (Year) [Million] Profit After Tax (Year) [Million] 2000 410.00 2000 450.00 2001 420.00 2001 220.00 2002 415.00 2002 130.00 2003 400.00 2003 60.00 2004 450.00 2004 370.00 2005 100.00 2005 70.00 2006 100.00 2006 60.00 2007 2007 Earning Per Share Kshs Dividend PayOut Kshs 2000 9.20 2000 6.00 2001 4.60 2001 2.00 2002 2.50 2002 2.50 2003 1.30 2003 6.00 2004 7.40 2004 8.00 2005 1.40 2005 2.00 2006 1.10 2006 2.00 2007 2007 P/E Ratio Bankers Barclay bank of Kenya,Citibank NA,Cooperative Bank Registrars Cooperative Bank Registrars My point Foreigners hold 88% of the company and thus in a position to make board decisions regardless of the African investors thinking after all..they holding only 12%. Some investors bought into this company at more than kshs 100 and when it ceased trading, shares were moving in the 40-45 range. The shares will be called back because the foreigners agenda is different and there intention is not to make money for the local investors. [Country of origin and Fair trade issues]. The local investors including NSSF, KCB pensioners and many more Wanjikus have been screwed. RVR is coming next. Joe is therefore really not far from the point...if Unilever lesson is anything to go by. We need a unified approach ...If you want to do business in Kenya...get Kenyan partner...is simply not enough... We need to get Kenyans in decision making positions also. PS. Regarding Flo's kind request to facilitate... Ownership of the process is what is critical. Locals should not only drive but own and ultimately be responsible for the direction they take. You have done well...but maybe...as Frank Sinatra would sing...its time for MY WAY. Ciao, Bill References 1. mailto:alkags@alkags.com People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).

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Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Tim Rick 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

Bill,manthi,waudo et all who support things the Kenyan way, Am suporting you 101%.Dr. Flo Etta, with all due respect,Its good you proposed to get your services in a system that needs to be cleaned up,but it would be kind if you can watch as we do it our way.As you can see,people like Joe are doing it the crude way,yet I still appreciate it cause I believe he has a point only that he just put it in a raw manner. Dr. Shem you should be around to help us facilitate these.I believe your experience and services would be of great importance in such a system. Bill I suggest we should also meet for tea before the 31st.Otherwise Brian Keep organising and posting the logistics. Don't I love these. 2008/7/14 <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulationfore-Commerce in Ken (waudo siganga) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:49:02 +0300 > From: "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and > Regulationfore-Commerce in Ken > To: "Bill Kagai" <billkagai(a)gmail.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <1216064942.15291.1263456079(a)webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Bill - I have to agree with everything you say in this mail. > Brilliant stuff! Kenyans need to be promoted into all sorts of > leadership positions. Secondly, the meeting being called is a > good idea but it must be by and for KENYANS. We got to start > believing in ourselves. If this meeting is organized with > participation of all and with the small matter of involving only > KENYANS taken into account, then I will definitely attend. I also > agree with Bw. Manthi that Flo, though being the nice personality > she is, should not chair the meeting as there are many qualified > KENYANS. > > About the other mail promoting me to the honourable position of > goat herder I have to disappoint you since I have been > goat-herding for a number of years now. Everyone who knows me > well knows that whenever I get a chance I am always upcountry in > Mukangu village, Kakamega. This in addition to my other work as > WITSA Director and Vice President (feel free to call me Mr Vice > President), still serving my term on ICANN Nom-Com, on the Board > of IFIP, Co-Chair of WITFOR busy preparing the next meeting in > Vietnam 2009, Board Member at the ICC BASIS in Paris, etc. In > WITSA I have to serve until after the 2012 World IT Congress in > Canada - and that is renewable! You see, rearing goats does not > exclude one from being busy. We need to meet over tea Bill, > preferably in the village. > > Long live KENYA, > Waudo > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:36:45 +0300, "Bill Kagai" <billkagai(a)gmail.com> sa > id: > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM, <[1]alkags(a)alkags.com> wrote: > > I wonder if protectionist policies would enhance our global > competitiveness as a country in the larger scheme of things? > > Alkags, > I have written too much (today), but kindly indulge me with this > one last post I could not resist because it harbours on what I do > for a living - information vending ;-) > You know about Unilver Tea. Basic stats look like this...and > another reason why you should subscribe to MediaCorp services > > NSE Sector > > Agricultural > > > > Company > > Unilever Tea > > > > Code > > UNLV > > > > Year Of > > 1925 > > > > Year of Listing > > 1972 > > > > Issued Shares > > 48,875,000.00 > > > > Share Float > > 11 > > > > > > > > All Time Low > > 36.00 > > > > All Time High > > 130.00 > > > > Market Capitalisation (Million) > > 2.26B > > > > Par Value > > > > > > > > > > > > > Top 10 Shareholders > > Name > > % > > Shareholder1 > > Brooke Bond Group Ltd. - > > 88.23 > > Shareholder2 > > Board of Trustees Of NSSF > > 2.94 > > > Shareholder3 > > KCB Staff Pension > > 0.52 > > > Shareholder4 > > UAP Provincial Insurance > > 0.33 > > > Shareholder5 > > Old mutual life Ass > > 0.29 > > > Shareholder6 > > BBK Nominees > > 0.27 > > > Shareholder7 > > Co-op Bank Kenya > > 0.22 > > > Shareholder8 > > BBK Nominees > > 0.22 > > > Shareholder9 > > xxxx > > > > Shareholder10 > > Ins Co. of East Africa > > 0.17 > > > > > > > Top10Total Shares > > > 93.37 > > > > > > > Profit Before Tax (Year) > > [Million] > > Profit After Tax (Year) > > [Million] > > 2000 > > 410.00 > > 2000 > > 450.00 > > 2001 > > 420.00 > > 2001 > > 220.00 > > 2002 > > 415.00 > > 2002 > > 130.00 > > 2003 > > 400.00 > > 2003 > > 60.00 > > 2004 > > 450.00 > > 2004 > > 370.00 > > 2005 > > 100.00 > > 2005 > > 70.00 > > 2006 > > 100.00 > > 2006 > > 60.00 > > 2007 > > > 2007 > > > > > > > Earning Per Share > > Kshs > > Dividend PayOut > > Kshs > > 2000 > > 9.20 > > 2000 > > 6.00 > > 2001 > > 4.60 > > 2001 > > 2.00 > > 2002 > > 2.50 > > 2002 > > 2.50 > > 2003 > > 1.30 > > 2003 > > 6.00 > > 2004 > > 7.40 > > 2004 > > 8.00 > > 2005 > > 1.40 > > 2005 > > 2.00 > > 2006 > > 1.10 > > 2006 > > 2.00 > > 2007 > > > 2007 > > > P/E Ratio > > > > > Bankers > > Barclay bank of Kenya,Citibank NA,Cooperative Bank > > Registrars > > Cooperative Bank Registrars > > > > My point > Foreigners hold 88% of the company and thus in a position to make > board decisions regardless of the African investors thinking > after all..they holding only 12%. Some investors bought into this > company at more than kshs 100 and when it ceased trading, shares > were moving in the 40-45 range. The shares will be called back > because the foreigners agenda is different and there intention is > not to make money for the local investors. [Country of origin and > Fair trade issues]. The local investors including NSSF, KCB > pensioners and many more Wanjikus have been screwed. > RVR is coming next. > Joe is therefore really not far from the point...if Unilever > lesson is anything to go by. We need a unified approach ...If you > want to do business in Kenya...get Kenyan partner...is simply not > enough... > We need to get Kenyans in decision making positions also. > PS. Regarding Flo's kind request to facilitate... > Ownership of the process is what is critical. Locals should not > only drive but own and ultimately be responsible for the > direction they take. You have done well...but maybe...as Frank > Sinatra would sing...its time for MY WAY. > Ciao, > Bill > > References > > 1. mailto:alkags@alkags.com > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius). > >

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Benchmarking national regulatory authority websites
by A.K. Mahan 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

*Benchmarking national regulatory authority websites* Four new LIRNE studies provide feedback to regulators across different categories of information provision. These regional assessments of national telecom regulatory authority websites in Latin America, the Caribbean and North America, Asia and Africa, seek to illuminate best practices for using NRA websites as vehicles to provide information about the sector to the full range of stakeholders. *Working Papers available for free download include: http://lirne.net/2008/07/benchmarking-nra-websites/* * Benchmarking Latin America NRA Websites by Hugo Carrión (DIRSI) Estándares de comparación para los sitios web de los Entes Reguladores Nacionales de América Latina * Benchmarking Caribbean and North American National Regulatory Authority Websites by Opal Lawton * Benchmarking Asia Pacific National Telecom Regulatory Authority Websites by Lara Alawattegama and Chanuka Wattegama (LIRNEasia) * Benchmark Indicators for African National Regulatory Authority Websites, Monica Kerretts-Makau (Research ICT Africa!) National regulatory authorities have a key role to play as information society drivers and facilitators by providing an example of using new technologies and facilitating access to, among others, legislation, standards and best practices for information and communication technology (ICT) adoption and development. NRA websites constitute an important vehicle for information dissemination, communication and transparency. Although these studies do not claim to measure the overall effectiveness, efficiency or transparency of the regulator, the benchmarking and ranking serve to clarify categories of information and their respective users, and to indicate responsiveness and interactivity in providing information. Finally, it is hoped that regulators will benefit from an awareness of how other national regulatory websites provide access and serve their respective communities. http://lirne.net/2008/07/benchmarking-nra-websites/ -- __________________________________ Amy Mahan, LIRNE.NET Coordinator Montevideo, Uruguay Tel: +598.2.410 2979 Fax: +44.870.759 8283 www.LIRNE.net __________________________________

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Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in Keny
by wesley kiriinya 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

To make it clearer. I am not embarassed by people questioning how much of Kenya is run by foreigners. I'm embarrased by how it's being done. For example I don't think it's appropriate to mention/imply in a public forum that someone is a foreigner therefore they can't do this or that. In my humble opinion if I post in this forum I'm communicating with anonymous people from other parts of the world not just Kenya and that's why I wrote "...as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion..." Quoting Saidi: "...it's a question of building, maintaing and protecting local capacity..." Refer to a lot of my posts. E.g. the recent one on Expensive Software systems. I understand this issue. It's a shame to Kenya, but is the governemnt/parliament to blame or is it foreigners or is it both? "...One of the key requirements, forced on poor countries by the IMF and the World Bank, centered on privatization and deregulation, even if the poor countries had no capacity to compete with foreign firms flush with cash..." I have heard a lot about similar statements and I have started to have my doubts about such organizations. So don't assume that I support their actions. Regards. --- On Sun, 7/13/08, saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in Keny To: kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 12:40 PM Wesley, You miss the point of these discussions. Whether they are embarassing or not isn't the issue; it's a question of building, maintaing and protecting local capacity. > > Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would > have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.) > Have you heard of SAPs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_adjustment_program)? One of the key requirements, forced on poor countries by the IMF and the World Bank, centered on privatization and deregulation, even if the poor countries had no capacity to compete with foreign firms flush with cash. You should read "Globalization and its Discontents" by the Nobel-prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz for the inside scoop. What we are experiencing right now in the ICT and Telecom industries is a direct result of what the book describes. So instead of being embarassed by this thread, perhaps you should react differently? Let me put it another way: would you have been too embarassed to join the Mau Mau and fight the British colonialists? Since de-facto foreign ownership and domination of the local economy is also colonialism (neo-colonialism), why are you ashamed to "join the fight"? Or is that too "uncivilised"? Decades later, when you grand-children ask you where you when foreigners virtualy re-colonized Kenya, what will you say? That you were too embarassed to "join the fight"? Don't kid yourself: there will be no real and lasting development if the agenda is set and controlled by non-Kenyans, it's as simple as that. I hope you'll take this email for what it is: a friendly conversation from a fellow Kenyan and ICT colleague who respects your work in the gaming industry, and ICT at large. Saidi On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would > have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.) > > If there is a higher appointing authority that picks these so called > foreigners over Kenyans then it's them to blame (if there is a good reason). > > That said, as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion. Sorry to > say but it is embarrassing to read some of these posts. > > Regards. >

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FW: [wougnet] [UgaBYTES] RIU Innovation Challenge Fund
by Harry Hare 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

My apologies for cross-posting. Harry -----Original Message----- From: wougnet-l-bounces(a)wougnet.org [mailto:wougnet-l-bounces@wougnet.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Caicedo (by way of Dorothy Okello <dokello(a)wougnet.org>) Sent: 11 July 2008 17:25 To: WOUGNET Mailing List Subject: [wougnet] [UgaBYTES] RIU Innovation Challenge Fund FYI, Silvia ============================== Call for funding Second RIU Call for Proposals - Innovation Challenge Fund: Phase 2 Africa The purpose of the African Innovation Challenge Fund (African ICF) is to provide financial support to teams so they can take promising research, funded by DFID, to the next stage of use. The selected initiatives will contribute to RIU's purpose by delivering significant use of RNRRS and other natural resources research outputs for the benefit (direct or indirect) of poor men and women in different contexts. The first RIU call issued in 2007 focused on target countries in S and S.E. Asia (India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Cambodia, Vietnam) and the response demonstrated that there were many entry points for scaling up RNRRS research knowledge. However the subsequent lesson learning study on the Asian challenge fund process indicated that, the scope of the call may have been too broad, creating wide expectations which the challenge fund was unable to fulfill. The RIU management team have therefore decided to focus the Africa call on two key elements which we feel are critical in getting research into use and from which lessons can be drawn for decision makers. These two elements are 1) novel communication methods and 2) public-private partnerships which can stimulate the use of natural resource technologies and processes produced by DFID research activities for the benefit of large numbers of people. More information on these focal areas and the context of the African ICF can be found in the guidance notes (available in English and in French) The RIU Innovation Challenge Fund Africa will focus on the following countries in sub Saharan Africa: Ghana, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, S.Africa plus three Francophone countries- Senegal, Mali and Niger (Total 10 countries). Other countries in Africa e.g. Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi and Nigeria are involved in RIU country programmes under another RIU component -component 1.2- Enhancing Demand. To avoid duplication of effort these six countries are not the primary focus of the African ICF. They may be considered for funding where regional initiatives exist but we stress that in this call we wish to focus on the ten countries which have been highlighted above. The guidance notes and application forms are available in English and French, although we kindly request that applications are submitted in English to assist selection procedures. Any questions or queries should be directed to the RIU Grants and Policy co-ordinator Lucy Nickoll L.nickoll(a)nrint.co.uk Closing date for submission of Concept Notes: Monday, 1st September, 12 noon (GMT+1) If you are interested in this call, please view the following documents: 1. Concept Note Application Form (English) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/African_CN_english.doc> 2. Concept Note Application Form (French) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/African_CN_francais.doc> 3. Guidance Notes (English) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/Africa_guidance_notes_v5_english.d oc> 4. Guidance Notes (French) <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/Africa_guidance_notes_v5_Francais. doc> 5. Natural <http://www.researchintouse.com/index.php?section=16&subsection=49> Resources Knowledge Database 6. RIU Logframe <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/RIU_Logframe_June_2007.doc> 7. RIU Data Management Guideline <http://www.researchintouse.com/downloads/RIU_Data_management_guidelines.pdf > Please also see our website; www.researchintouse.com _______________________________________________ ugabytes mailing list ugabytes(a)lists.ugabytes.org http://lists.ugabytes.org/mailman/listinfo/ugabytes_lists.ugabytes.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1546 - Release Date: 11/07/2008 06:47

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[Fwd: Orange to Launch iPhone in Kenya]
by alice 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Sorry if this is already old news .... Orange to Launch 3G iPhone in Kenya http://www.apple.com/iphone/countries/ke/ -- Joe Mucheru

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Experts' warnings of web's future
by wesley kiriinya 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Good people, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/7466085.stm In summary the first part of the article (what I was interested in) talks about how platforms are taking over the net and are squeezing out the liberty to develop apps that use the net. Platforms include facebook, google apps and apple. One of the main arguments is that e.g. in Facebook the developer has to agree to the terms of the platform which might not be very favourable. "...[There are] rights to charge the makers of applications for the privilege of allowing that application to continue to exist on Facebook at any rate Facebook chooses. Rights to terminate any application that they don't like, for any reason..." Good Weekend. Ohh, almost forgot Sent from my Dell Inspiron 1520 8~D

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FW: [administrators-en] Vacancy announcement: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator
by Edith Adera 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

_____ From: Rambaldi, G. [mailto:Rambaldi@cta.int] Sent: jeudi 10 juillet 2008 08:08 To: Dgroups administrator peer support Subject: [administrators-en] Vacancy announcement: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> <http://www.cta.int/> Vacancy announcement Summary Job title: ICT for Development Programme Coordinator Location: Wageningen, the Netherlands Employment: Full-time and long-term international position; possibility to start under a consultancy contract Area: Agricultural science and development Education: University degree in the field of communication sciences or related discipline Experience: 5 10 years in ICT4D domain Introduction The Technical Centre for Agricultural and Rural <http://www.cta.int/> Cooperation (CTA) is an ACP-EU organisation established under the Lomé Convention, now succeeded by the Cotonou Agreement, between the EU and African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) states. CTAs tasks are to develop and provide services that improve access to information for agricultural and rural development, and to strengthen the capacity of ACP countries to produce, acquire, exchange and utilise information in these areas. Information and communication technologies (ICTs) are widely regarded as enabling tools in fighting poverty and achieving the Millennium Development Goals when these are integrated into development policies and programmes. The current rapid pace of innovation in ICTs is therefore significant and worthy of note as benefits may accrue to a growing number of organisations and individuals based in the developing world. Free or low-cost, simple, internet-based services are now available to the general public which make effective online collaboration a reality. Web 2.0 is the name given to this new dimension of on-line services, where people and communities collaborate and share information. CTAs mandate puts emphasis on facilitating access, exchange and dissemination of information in the fields of agriculture and rural development. Therefore, many Web 2.0 applications play a key role in its own strategies and programmes. Responsibilities Working closely with the members of the ICT Innovation Team and reporting to the head of department, the incumbent will carry out the following activities: (i) Contribute to the interdepartmental efforts towards improving (a) CTA internal ICT/ICM systems; (b) capacity in using in-house software applications; and (c) adoption of innovative ICT/ICM by ACP stakeholders; (ii) Establish and run a permanent ICT Observatory focusing on ICT4D and Web 2.0 innovations; (iii) Contribute to the testing, appraisal, eventual promotion and adoption of innovative ICT4D and Web 2.0 applications within CTA and among CTA partner organisations; (iv) Assist CTA partners in developing project proposals. (v) Manage the projects cycle including programming, processing, administration and evaluation phases; (vi) Liaise with development agencies and partners on collaborative work related to ICT4D and Web 2.0 initiatives; (vii) Contribute to the development of strategies and action plans; (viii) Implement other tasks as requested by CTAs Director and the Head of Department. Requirements (i) A university degree in communication sciences or related discipline. (ii) 5 - 10 years of relevant professional experience in the ICT4D domain (international experience will be an advantage) as well as exposure to the full project cycle (i.e., programming, project processing to project administration); (iii) Experienced and having keen interest in ICT4D in the contexts of African Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) countries and preferably in the sectors of agriculture, rural development and natural resource management. (iv) Proficient in the use of a range of innovative ICTs. These may include mobile PC-based ICTs, phone (SMS) and SMS to web technologies and broadcasting. Eager to discover and explore ICT combinations appropriate to CTA working contexts. (v) Proficient in web publishing and/or video-editing and in the use of Web 2.0 applications including among others social networking, blogging, vlogging, podcasting, use of wikis and remote collaboration solutions, collaborative tagging and more; (vi) Experienced team worker. Encourages cooperation within and between teams and promotes the value of diversity in teams, such as in different views, culture, nationality, and gender. (vii) Proficient in word processing, spreadsheets and presentation software; (viii) Excellent oral and written communication skills in English or French and ability to work in the other language. (ix) Good organisational, inter-personal and communication skills in a multi-cultural working environment; international experience is an asset; (x) National of either a European Union member state or of one of the 79 ACP (Africa, Caribbean, and Pacific) States. Employment package A range of benefits, including private pension and health insurance scheme will support an attractive tax-exempt salary. Procedure Qualifying candidates are invited to forward before August 8th, 2008: - One-page motivational letter explaining why he/she qualifies for this position; - Curriculum Vitae; - Scanned copies of relevant diplomas and certificates; - Full contact details of three referees. Please quote the source of the advertisement. Please note that only candidates under serious consideration will receive written notice of the selection process. Mr. Jean-Claude Burguet CTA - Head of Administration, Budget and Human Resources Department Ref: ICT4D P.O. Box 380 6700 AJ Wageningen The Netherlands Fax: +31 317 46 71 78 E-mail: Burguet(a)cta.int Dgroups is a joint initiative of Bellanet, DFID, Hivos, ICA, ICCO, IICD, OneWorld, UNAIDS and World Bank --- You are currently subscribed to administrators-en as: rthioune(a)idrc.org.sn To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-administrators-en-245890K(a)dgroups.org Dgroups is a joint initiative of Bellanet, DFID, Hivos, ICA, ICCO, IICD, OneWorld, UNAIDS and World Bank --- You are currently subscribed to administrators-en as: rthioune(a)idrc.org.sn To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-administrators-en-245890K(a)dgroups.org

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Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Marcel Werner 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - Public Panel 19 June 2008 *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one percent point growth to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. This is contingent upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic transactions. *Kenya, as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in having a legal framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is an anachronism hampering national development, placing provincial centres at a disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both external and internal trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector strongly supports e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the Information and Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open market and promotes innovation. Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting electronic transactions represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity in the legal framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an electronic signature -Manage and control e-commerce risks -Remove e-commerce barriers KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public domain, the Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the Electronic Transactions Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest technical standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the economy (including tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th May, 4th June and 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed overwhelming support for urgent legislation of e-commerce. Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and hearings to date have yielded the following important issues for improvement in the current Bills: - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated - Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence - Need for data protection and privacy provisions - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associations including KIF, lead regulator Communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are expressing their desire to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line travel bookings have exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in off-line bookings is in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally support abundant on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. E-commerce in agriculture will improve small-holder's living standards. Great impact is expected notably in the coffee sector that provides livelihood to at least 5 million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. Healthcare efficiency and affordability will improve by on-line health data management systems. Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have also expressed keen interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade efficiency and security in rural Kenya. What is e-commerce E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based documentation by a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and sellers. E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an irreversible trend. Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by mutual agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach its full potential when parties that do not know each other are able to trade with full mutual protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers of consumers and businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism operators, small-scale industry and services providers in almost any business sector. About KIF The Kenya Information and Communication Technology Federation (KIF) represents the ICT industry with Government and with private sector bodies e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private Sector Alliance KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. KIF is a legally registered membership based Association, made up of trade associations and professional bodies within the national ICT industry, as well as commercial corporations. KIF has been accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. KIF contributes ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, agriculture, construction industry, and last but not least supports e-government development. KIF is a membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on public policy and industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues include: innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes and levies, rural ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with excellent relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership is open for market segment associations and individual companies. Membership charges are annual and based on company size. Contact: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 4440102 MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation please send any business mail to: Marcel.Werner(a)innovation-africa.or.ke

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Creating edutainment clips with Flip
by Gakiria 10 Jul '08

10 Jul '08

Dear Brian, I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to create small educational clips for integration into e-learning courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such courses remain bandwidth shy... Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, educationally relevant content without the need for expensive equipment and advanced technical know how. Gakiria Kenya e-Learning Center On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > Flipping over Flip > > http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > > Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > have seen in recent days. > > Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > said "I'll show you." > > When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > > This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > > According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > > My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > contribute towards the development of local, African content. > > Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > > [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > zinjlog.blogspot.com] -- Gakiria Andrew Coordinator Kenya eLearning Centre Nairobi, KENYA

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Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip
by John Wesonga 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Interesting conversation here, my company Multiple Choices has built a storycollection and sharing portal that's mashed up with Google Maps, this Users can submit SMS content (we have an SMS application integrated to pull content into the portal), audio clips (this is done via a desktop application which can be downloaded and installed both Linux and Windows version available), all the stories are populated onto a google maps. RSS feeds are available for content syndication, user profile creation can be added if needed. Integrating the pictures module from the flip Cameras should not be hard. If anyone is interested I can be reached on john.wesonga(a)multiplechoices.biz. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:22 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Kai Wulff) > 2. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Brian Munyao Longwe) > 3. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Brian Munyao Longwe) > 4. Re: Creating edutainment clips with Flip (Joseph Manthi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:19:35 +0300 > From: "Kai Wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <1d9501c8e105$a5d8bcf0$360da8c0(a)local.kdn.co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can upload all > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > Kai > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > Dear Brian, > > > > I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to > > create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > courses remain bandwidth shy... > > > > Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > equipment and advanced technical know how. > > > > Gakiria > > Kenya e-Learning Center > > > > > > > > On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >> Flipping over Flip > >> > >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >> > >> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >> have seen in recent days. > >> > >> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > >> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > >> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >> said "I'll show you." > >> > >> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >> > >> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > >> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > >> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >> > >> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >> > >> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >> > >> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >> > >> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > > > > > -- > > Gakiria Andrew > > Coordinator > > Kenya eLearning Centre > > Nairobi, KENYA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:46:59 +0300 > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Kai Wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <A6F18185-50F4-420A-BB93-27BE25694242(a)caret.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Good gesture Kai. Would that be a portal that is freely accessible > via the Butterfly network? i.e. anyone within a WiFi zone can click > and upload? > > That would really be a huge benefit. > > We're thinking right now about how to scalably test this out, talking > to a few friends to see if we can get hold of several of these gizmos > - then let's see what happens > > I would love to see some primary school kids content, high school > kids content, university kids content, jua-kali content, entrepreneur > content etc..... > > Brian > > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Kai Wulff wrote: > > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can > > upload all > > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > > > Kai > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > > >> Dear Brian, > >> > >> I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > >> 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using > >> it to > >> create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > >> courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > >> size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > >> courses remain bandwidth shy... > >> > >> Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > >> educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > >> equipment and advanced technical know how. > >> > >> Gakiria > >> Kenya e-Learning Center > >> > >> > >> > >> On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >>> Flipping over Flip > >>> > >>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >>> > >>> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >>> have seen in recent days. > >>> > >>> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the > >>> USA > >>> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During > >>> this > >>> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >>> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >>> said "I'll show you." > >>> > >>> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >>> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >>> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >>> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >>> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >>> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >>> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >>> > >>> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >>> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >>> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on > >>> the > >>> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others > >>> like > >>> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >>> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >>> > >>> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >>> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >>> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >>> > >>> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >>> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >>> > >>> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >>> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >>> > >>> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >>> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Gakiria Andrew > >> Coordinator > >> Kenya eLearning Centre > >> Nairobi, KENYA > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff% > >> 40kdn.co.ke > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > > mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:48:44 +0300 > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: Gakiria <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: <513FB437-7B87-4C44-AFDD-EE63AA0D2B92(a)caret.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Incredible! This is really great. Are your clips 'open source' ;-) > i.e. free? > > Do you have them online so that we can take a peek? > > Brian > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Gakiria wrote: > > > Dear Brian, > > > > I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using it to > > create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > courses remain bandwidth shy... > > > > Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > equipment and advanced technical know how. > > > > Gakiria > > Kenya e-Learning Center > > > > > > > > On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > >> Flipping over Flip > >> > >> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > >> > >> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > >> have seen in recent days. > >> > >> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA > >> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this > >> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > >> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > >> said "I'll show you." > >> > >> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > >> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > >> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > >> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > >> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > >> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > >> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > >> > >> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > >> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > >> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the > >> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like > >> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > >> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > >> > >> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > >> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > >> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > >> > >> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > >> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > >> > >> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > >> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > >> > >> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > >> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > > > > > -- > > Gakiria Andrew > > Coordinator > > Kenya eLearning Centre > > Nairobi, KENYA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:26:10 -0400 > From: "Joseph Manthi" <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > To: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <brian(a)caret.net> > Cc: butterfly(a)kdn.co.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Message-ID: > <896f69760807080826i1202669dq38e40cc51c0942e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Brian > I would encourage you to visit the following site to see Flip capabilities: > > http://www.theflip.com/ > > Joe > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> > wrote: > > > Good gesture Kai. Would that be a portal that is freely accessible > > via the Butterfly network? i.e. anyone within a WiFi zone can click > > and upload? > > > > That would really be a huge benefit. > > > > We're thinking right now about how to scalably test this out, talking > > to a few friends to see if we can get hold of several of these gizmos > > - then let's see what happens > > > > I would love to see some primary school kids content, high school > > kids content, university kids content, jua-kali content, entrepreneur > > content etc..... > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Kai Wulff wrote: > > > > > I am sure we could offer a portal on Butterfly so all people can > > > upload all > > > the clips to share and promote? Who has ideas? > > > > > > Kai > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gakiria" <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > > > To: <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 15:56 > > > Subject: [kictanet] Creating edutainment clips with Flip > > > > > > > > >> Dear Brian, > > >> > > >> I know the Wow feeling. i have used the Flip Camera since November > > >> 2007 and its amazing how hardy and useful it is.We are now using > > >> it to > > >> create small educational clips for integration into e-learning > > >> courses. Using open source tools, we are able to further reduce the > > >> size of the clips (including digital images), ensuring that such > > >> courses remain bandwidth shy... > > >> > > >> Thanks to technology, it becomes ever easier to create local, > > >> educationally relevant content without the need for expensive > > >> equipment and advanced technical know how. > > >> > > >> Gakiria > > >> Kenya e-Learning Center > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> wrote: > > >>> Flipping over Flip > > >>> > > >>> http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html > > >>> > > >>> Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I > > >>> have seen in recent days. > > >>> > > >>> Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the > > >>> USA > > >>> and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During > > >>> this > > >>> he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said > > >>> that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he > > >>> said "I'll show you." > > >>> > > >>> When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a > > >>> cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to > > >>> 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an > > >>> internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA > > >>> batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg > > >>> bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip > > >>> for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). > > >>> > > >>> This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash > > >>> dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the > > >>> software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on > > >>> the > > >>> stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others > > >>> like > > >>> it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam > > >>> industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. > > >>> > > >>> According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the > > >>> startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market > > >>> share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. > > >>> > > >>> My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can > > >>> contribute towards the development of local, African content. > > >>> > > >>> Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into > > >>> the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... > > >>> > > >>> [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// > > >>> zinjlog.blogspot.com] > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Gakiria Andrew > > >> Coordinator > > >> Kenya eLearning Centre > > >> Nairobi, KENYA > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> kictanet mailing list > > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > >> > > >> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff% > > >> 40kdn.co.ke > > >> > > >> -- > > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > >> believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > > > mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Joseph Manthi > CEO > MEO Ltd > http://www.meoltd.com >

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Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Joseph Manthi 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

So your solution is to regulate - also known as control - ICT? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:57 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > But ICT is not medicine, and no life is at stake here... > > You must be joking! Have you heard of medical systems controlled by > software? Air-traffic control systems? Airplane navigation systems? > Banking systems? Traffic-light systems? The microwave you use at home? > That little gadget that you depend on some much - the mobile phone? > > No life at stake? > > Have an informative day. > > Saidi > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Brian and Waudi: > > But ICT is not medicine, and no life is at stake here even though the > > medical and chemical practitioners - read chemists - would want us to > > believe it is so. Why do we want to suffocate the baby before it is born? > > > > If Kenya wants to compete with India and other countries in ICT, I urge > you > > guys to leave the industry alone. This is akin to what CCK is doing to > the > > telecommunications industry. They want to license people who can connect > > cables. How much knowledge does one need to connect an RJ45 cable to a > PC? > > Likewise do we need to license PHP programmers? Will this give us the > sense > > of security that we have the best programmers working today just because > > they have a license saying so? Need I dwell on my experience hiring MS > > licensed engineers and what I think about those MSCEs etc? > > > > My teachers used to say "think twice before you leap". This is a case > where > > this adage needs to be heeded. There is the concept of collateral damage > and > > an intended consequences. Please contemplate those. > > > > Joe > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Very correct Waudi. That's why we have Paediatrics Association, a > >> Pyschiatrics Association, a Dental Board, an Obstetrics Society. You > >> have gotten the point clearly. > >> > >> Asante sana! > >> > >> B > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On 07 Jul 2008, at 7:54 PM, "waudo siganga" <emailsignet(a)mailcan.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Brian - I do not know what you are saying. The medical field, as > >> > another > >> > example, is wide and diverse - we have heart surgeons, ENT > >> > specialists, > >> > paeditricians, general practitioners, gynacologists, etc, etc. Are > >> > these > >> > people the same? Would you go to a gynacologist to solve your eye > >> > ailment? OK, let us forget about regulating or registering doctors. To > >> > wide, large and deep. > >> > > >> > Waudo > >> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:00:54 +0300, "Brian Longwe" <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > >> > said: > >> >> Hi Walu, > >> >> > >> >> I beg to differ. ICT is too large, too deep and too wide to have a > >> >> single, authoritative, representative body. What you refer to would > >> >> probably be more appropriate to some of the professional disciplines > >> >> within the ICT sector e.g. Software Developers Guild, System > >> >> Administrators Association, CIO/CTO Society - within which there can > >> >> be certain codes of behavior, ethics, values, best practices etc... > >> >> > >> >> I would venture to suggest that ICT is very similar to the auto > >> >> industry - which is made up of so many different types of > >> >> stakeholders > >> >> (from multi-national vendors like GM to Owino my jua-kali fundi and a > >> >> plethora of linkages across insurance, finance, property, transport > >> >> etc...) > >> >> > >> >> Not that I intend to put your suggestions down - but to request a > >> >> slightly broader view of the animal called ICT. > >> >> > >> >> To illustrate this point I will wax poetic and share with you the > >> >> following poem by John Godfrey Saxe ( 1816-1887) > >> >> > >> >> The Blind men and the Elephant > >> >> > >> >> It was six men of Indostan > >> >> To learning much inclined, > >> >> Who went to see the Elephant > >> >> (Though all of them were blind), > >> >> That each by observation > >> >> Might satisfy his mind. > >> >> > >> >> The First approach'd the Elephant, > >> >> And happening to fall > >> >> Against his broad and sturdy side, > >> >> At once began to bawl: > >> >> "God bless me! but the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a wall!" > >> >> > >> >> The Second, feeling of the tusk, > >> >> Cried, -"Ho! what have we here > >> >> So very round and smooth and sharp? > >> >> To me 'tis mighty clear > >> >> This wonder of an Elephant > >> >> Is very like a spear!" > >> >> > >> >> The Third approached the animal, > >> >> And happening to take > >> >> The squirming trunk within his hands, > >> >> Thus boldly up and spake: > >> >> "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a snake!" > >> >> > >> >> The Fourth reached out his eager hand, > >> >> And felt about the knee. > >> >> "What most this wondrous beast is like > >> >> Is mighty plain," quoth he, > >> >> "'Tis clear enough the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a tree!" > >> >> > >> >> The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear, > >> >> Said: "E'en the blindest man > >> >> Can tell what this resembles most; > >> >> Deny the fact who can, > >> >> This marvel of an Elephant > >> >> Is very like a fan!" > >> >> > >> >> The Sixth no sooner had begun > >> >> About the beast to grope, > >> >> Then, seizing on the swinging tail > >> >> That fell within his scope, > >> >> "I see," quoth he, "the Elephant > >> >> Is very like a rope!" > >> >> > >> >> And so these men of Indostan > >> >> Disputed loud and long, > >> >> Each in his own opinion > >> >> Exceeding stiff and strong, > >> >> Though each was partly in the right, > >> >> And all were in the wrong! > >> >> > >> >> MORAL. > >> >> > >> >> So oft in theologic wars, > >> >> The disputants, I ween, > >> >> Rail on in utter ignorance > >> >> Of what each other mean, > >> >> And prate about an Elephant > >> >> Not one of them has seen! > >> >> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >> > >> >> On 07 Jul 2008, at 12:45 PM, John Walubengo <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Marcel, > >> >>> > >> >>> It looks like quite some work has been ongoing in this > >> >>> area...unfortunately it seems as if it was restricted within KIF > >> >>> only? I wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, Waudo r u there?) > >> >>> or Information Security Audit & Control (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just > >> >>> to mention some of the big IT Associations in Kenya were involved. I > >> >>> beg to be enlightened. > >> >>> > >> >>> This brings in an old question - who really represents the IT > >> >>> Profession in Kenya? Shem has been on record as saying that IT is > >> >>> the only discipline where we seem to lack bodies with the same > >> >>> authority as LSK (Law Society of Kenya), IEK (Institute of Engineers > >> >>> of Kenya), Medical Practictioners Board amongst others to regulate > >> >>> the IT Profession. > >> >>> > >> >>> And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the bill either (and has a > >> >>> different objective anyway). But time has come to really start > >> >>> thinking of regulating the IT profession, even as we struggle to > >> >>> regulate the industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead on this, > >> >>> but they have been awfully quite except when they award prizes at > >> >>> the end of the year (Waudo I know u will kill me offline but I just > >> >>> had to say it!). > >> >>> > >> >>> KEPSA? very reputable and effective particularly in the > >> >>> Manufacturing sector but on IT? am not sure they have been as > >> >>> effective - particularly because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the > >> >>> IT industry has been 'cloudy' for lack of a better word...Can for > >> >>> example CSK or ISACA be part of KEPSA without being part of KIF? I > >> >>> again need to be enlightened. > >> >>> > >> >>> O.K. I agree I did digress, but just thinking loudly and saying that > >> >>> as we think of regulating electronic transactions, we also need to > >> >>> simultaneously start regulating the IT profession..but maybe I am > >> >>> wrong. Particularly because regulation can and often leads to > >> >>> suppression... > >> >>> > >> >>> walu. > >> >>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > >> >>>> Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in > >> >>>> Kenya > >> >>>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >> >>>> Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > >> >>>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM > >> >>>> Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - > >> >>>> Public Panel 19 > >> >>>> June 2008 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one > >> >>>> percent point growth > >> >>>> to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. > >> >>>> This is contingent > >> >>>> upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic > >> >>>> transactions. *Kenya, > >> >>>> as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in > >> >>>> having a legal > >> >>>> framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is > >> >>>> an anachronism > >> >>>> hampering national development, placing provincial centres > >> >>>> at a > >> >>>> disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both > >> >>>> external and internal > >> >>>> trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector > >> >>>> strongly supports > >> >>>> e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the > >> >>>> Information and > >> >>>> Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open > >> >>>> market and promotes > >> >>>> innovation. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting > >> >>>> electronic transactions > >> >>>> represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity > >> >>>> in the legal > >> >>>> framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: > >> >>>> -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an > >> >>>> electronic signature > >> >>>> -Manage and control e-commerce risks > >> >>>> -Remove e-commerce barriers > >> >>>> KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public > >> >>>> domain, the > >> >>>> Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the > >> >>>> Electronic Transactions > >> >>>> Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest > >> >>>> technical > >> >>>> standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the > >> >>>> economy (including > >> >>>> tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th > >> >>>> May, 4th June and > >> >>>> 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed > >> >>>> overwhelming support for > >> >>>> urgent legislation of e-commerce. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and > >> >>>> hearings to date > >> >>>> have yielded the following important issues for improvement > >> >>>> in the current > >> >>>> Bills: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be > >> >>>> demarcated > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Clarification on which commercial documents are > >> >>>> excluded from > >> >>>> proposed legislation > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of > >> >>>> electronic evidence > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Need for data protection and privacy provisions > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud > >> >>>> than on > >> >>>> traditional fraud > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and > >> >>>> punishments > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime > >> >>>> within the scope of > >> >>>> the Extradition Act > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws > >> >>>> whose functions > >> >>>> will be policy implementation and advisory, as a > >> >>>> multi-sectoral body with > >> >>>> industry associations including KIF, lead regulator > >> >>>> Communications > >> >>>> Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are > >> >>>> expressing their desire > >> >>>> to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line > >> >>>> travel bookings have > >> >>>> exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in > >> >>>> off-line bookings is > >> >>>> in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally > >> >>>> support abundant > >> >>>> on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. > >> >>>> E-commerce in > >> >>>> agriculture will improve small-holder's living > >> >>>> standards. Great impact is > >> >>>> expected notably in the coffee sector that provides > >> >>>> livelihood to at least 5 > >> >>>> million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. > >> >>>> Healthcare efficiency and > >> >>>> affordability will improve by on-line health data > >> >>>> management systems. > >> >>>> Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have > >> >>>> also expressed keen > >> >>>> interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade > >> >>>> efficiency and > >> >>>> security in rural Kenya. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> What is e-commerce > >> >>>> > >> >>>> E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based > >> >>>> documentation by > >> >>>> a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and > >> >>>> sellers. > >> >>>> E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an > >> >>>> irreversible trend. > >> >>>> Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by > >> >>>> mutual > >> >>>> agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach > >> >>>> its full potential > >> >>>> when parties that do not know each other are able to trade > >> >>>> with full mutual > >> >>>> protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers > >> >>>> of consumers and > >> >>>> businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism > >> >>>> operators, small-scale > >> >>>> industry and services providers in almost any business > >> >>>> sector. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> About KIF > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The Kenya Information and Communication Technology > >> >>>> Federation (KIF) > >> >>>> represents the ICT industry with Government and with > >> >>>> private sector bodies > >> >>>> e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private > >> >>>> Sector Alliance > >> >>>> KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. KIF is a legally > >> >>>> registered membership based > >> >>>> Association, made up of trade associations and professional > >> >>>> bodies within > >> >>>> the national ICT industry, as well as commercial > >> >>>> corporations. KIF has been > >> >>>> accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. > >> >>>> KIF contributes > >> >>>> ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, > >> >>>> agriculture, construction > >> >>>> industry, and last but not least supports e-government > >> >>>> development. KIF is a > >> >>>> membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on > >> >>>> public policy and > >> >>>> industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues > >> >>>> include: > >> >>>> innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes > >> >>>> and levies, rural > >> >>>> ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with > >> >>>> excellent > >> >>>> relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership > >> >>>> is open for > >> >>>> market segment associations and individual companies. > >> >>>> Membership charges are > >> >>>> annual and based on company size. Contact: > >> >>>> secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 > >> >>>> 4440102 > >> >>>> MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation > >> >>>> > >> >>>> please send any business mail to: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Marcel.Werner@innovation-africa.or.ke_______________________________________________ > >> >>>> kictanet mailing list > >> >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu% > >> >>>> 40yahoo.com > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> kictanet mailing list > >> >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >>> > >> >>> This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com > >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> kictanet mailing list > >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> >> > >> >> This message was sent to: emailsignet(a)mailcan.com > >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> >> > >> >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.… > >> > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work > >> > (Confucius). > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Joseph Manthi > > CEO > > MEO Ltd > > http://www.meoltd.com > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: saidimu(a)gmail.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/saidimu%40gmail.com > > > > > -- Joseph Manthi CEO MEO Ltd http://www.meoltd.com

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Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Harry Hare 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Dear Marcel, Good review of the proposed bills. I happen to have participated in the preparation of the Draft e-Transaction Bill and would like to respond to some of the concerns in my own capacity as a Kenyan citizen. Another caveat is that apart from attending a one week course on legal aspects of e-Commerce, law is a stranger in my being. See my responses to the specific issues the analysis raises below: Harry 1. Provisions on who can prosecute are missing This is actually covered in Schedule C, under the investigations of offenses section and article 21 gives the commissioner of police the authority to prosecute. Under the same section, there is a proposal to constitute special investigation unit on cyber crime. 2. Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated You may want to be abit elaborate on this. Part IV of the proposed bill tries to indemnify service providers from third party felonies. Would you prefer for instance that we have data providers and internet service providers as separate have separate limitations? 3. Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation In the initial drafts of the proposed law, the documents had been listed as title deeds, bearer bonds and letter of credit; this is actually best practise as proposed by the UNCITRAL models laws on e-commerce. The concept tries not to cover documents that can be exchanged for cash/service or goods. 4. Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence The question of admissibility of electronic evidence is covered very well in Schedule B which has proposed amendments to the Evidence Act. I do not see any ambiguity in this section unless you can point out something specific. 5. Need for data protection and privacy provisions Articles 31-34 of the proposed bill covers protection of private information. Is this insufficient? 6. The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud Might need some research on this. 7. Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments I tend to agree with the analysis here...for instance spamming the proposed fine is 200,000 and spoofing the proposed fine is 2m. May need some reworking in line with the weight of the offence. 8. Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act The bill proposes that the clause "all the crimes mentioned in the Electronic Transactions Bill 2007", this clause enough to amend the Extradition Act to include the crimes that have been identified in the proposed bill. 9. Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associationsincluding KIF, lead regulator communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya We belaboured on this and initially came up with a proposal to have a multi-stakeholder agency, akin to KENIC, to administer the act but after long discussions and consultations, the team was unable to come out as boldly as you did for several reasons. i) We were aware of the fact that proposing the creation of a new body has some budgetary implications and therefore would slow down the process of enacting the law. ii) The Bill was developed towards the end of last year, the mood at that time was that anything that went to parliament had the risk of being politicised and therefore aligning the bill to specific institutions was suicidal From: kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Marcel Werner Sent: 06 July 2008 17:44 To: harry(a)africanedevelopment.org Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - Public Panel 19 June 2008 Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one percent point growth to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. This is contingent upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic transactions. Kenya, as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in having a legal framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is an anachronism hampering national development, placing provincial centres at a disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both external and internal trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector strongly supports e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the Information and Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open market and promotes innovation. Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting electronic transactions represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity in the legal framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an electronic signature -Manage and control e-commerce risks -Remove e-commerce barriers KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public domain, the Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the Electronic Transactions Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest technical standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the economy (including tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th May, 4th June and 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed overwhelming support for urgent legislation of e-commerce. Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and hearings to date have yielded the following important issues for improvement in the current Bills: - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be demarcated - Clarification on which commercial documents are excluded from proposed legislation - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of electronic evidence - Need for data protection and privacy provisions - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud than on traditional fraud - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and punishments - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime within the scope of the Extradition Act - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws whose functions will be policy implementation and advisory, as a multi-sectoral body with industry associations including KIF, lead regulator Communications Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are expressing their desire to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line travel bookings have exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in off-line bookings is in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally support abundant on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. E-commerce in agriculture will improve small-holder's living standards. Great impact is expected notably in the coffee sector that provides livelihood to at least 5 million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. Healthcare efficiency and affordability will improve by on-line health data management systems. Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have also expressed keen interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade efficiency and security in rural Kenya. What is e-commerce E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based documentation by a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and sellers. E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an irreversible trend. Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by mutual agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach its full potential when parties that do not know each other are able to trade with full mutual protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers of consumers and businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism operators, small-scale industry and services providers in almost any business sector. About KIF The Kenya Information and Communication Technology Federation (KIF) represents the ICT industry with Government and with private sector bodies e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private Sector Alliance <http://www.kepsa.org/> KEPSA. KIF is a legally registered membership based Association, made up of trade associations and professional bodies within the national ICT industry, as well as commercial corporations. KIF has been accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. KIF contributes ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, agriculture, construction industry, and last but not least supports e-government development. KIF is a membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on public policy and industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues include: innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes and levies, rural ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with excellent relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership is open for market segment associations and individual companies. Membership charges are annual and based on company size. Contact: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 4440102 MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation please send any business mail to: Marcel.Werner(a)innovation-africa.or.ke No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 05/07/2008 10:15

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Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Kevit Desai 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Hi Alex, KEPSA (info(a)kepsa.or.ke) private sector policy body with its own governance structure. Elected as a director in private capacity and as KIF vice chairman. KIF (secretariat(a)kif.or.ke) membership-based industry association, member of KEPSA's ICT section. Elected as vice-chairman. Centurion Systems Ltd: (www.centurionsystemsltd.com) private company, director, member of KIF. Director of Engineering - Centurion Systems Ltd Chairperson IEEE - Kenya Section Chairperson - Engineering Students Exhibition Governor - KEPSA Director - KEPSA Director - Innovation Africa Director- Kenya ICT Board Vice Chairman - Kenya ICT Federation BOA - AIESEC Member - National Strategy for University Education Co-ordinator - Growing Sustainable Business(GSB)-UNDP Kenya General Co-Chair - Africon 2009 2nd Fl, New Rehema Hse, Raphta Rd, Westlands -Nairobi P.O. BOX 66031 - 00800 Nrb. Tel:+254 20 4440102/3 Fax: +254 20 4440104 CDMA: 020 2049750 Mobile: +254 722 517067 http://www.centurionsystemsltd.com http://www.ieee.org http://www.engineeringexhibition.co.ke http://www.innovation-africa.net http://www.kepsa.or.ke http://www.powerup.co.ke http://www.aiesec.org http://www.africon2007.co.za http://www.kif.or.ke htpp://www.ict.go.ke http://www.globalcompact.org http://www.undp.org/business/gsb -----Original Message----- From: waudo siganga [mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:40 PM To: kevit desai Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya Hello Kevit - Since you sent this message to KICTANET I can answer it on the same forum. I think the picture being painted about a rosy situation including "collaboration" is simply not true. The reason to be frank is that there a few in your KIF who do not want any other association to have a voice in KEPSA or to interact with Government. Could you as a KEPSA director ensure that all interested associations including the major ones not in KIF are allowed room to contribute in KEPSA? It can be sad if you mis-use your position in KEPSA only to promote KIF and crack down on those you feel are in the way. Waudo On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:31 +0300, "kevit desai" <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com> said: > Hi Walu, > Associations are welcome to be members of KEPSA. I would like to confirm > that the KEPSA/KIF relationship is vibrant. We would like to do a lot > more > and welcome more support. > We appreciate Waudo's contributions at our last ministerial stakeholder > forum. > Collaboration is the way forward. > > Kevit Desai > KEPSA Director > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kevit=centurionsystemsltd.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] > On Behalf Of waudo siganga > Sent: 07 July 2008 19:02 > To: kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in > Kenya > > Hi Walu - I am catching you loud and clear on GPRS somewhere in the > bush. I did bring out the issue of regulating the IT (or ICT) Profession > on this list a few months ago. But the rather unenthusiastic response I > got gave me the sense that possibly this was not the correct list since > many of the subscribers appear just interested in ICT Policy rather than > being actual IT Experts. Within the next two weeks there will be another > list for professionals and you will be informed (you have the > qualifications, don't you??). We are pushing for a registration board > like thise done last yeaer for nutritionists and Procurement > Practitioners. There is a lot of work going on unheralded. All we need > is a champion or chanpions in the right place. > Waudo > > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo" > <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> said: > > Marcel, > > > > It looks like quite some work has been ongoing in this > > area...unfortunately it seems as if it was restricted within KIF only? I > > wonder if Computer Society of Kenya (CSK, Waudo r u there?) or > > Information Security Audit & Control (ISACA-Kenya Chapter) just to > > mention some of the big IT Associations in Kenya were involved. I beg to > > be enlightened. > > > > This brings in an old question - who really represents the IT Profession > > in Kenya? Shem has been on record as saying that IT is the only > > discipline where we seem to lack bodies with the same authority as LSK > > (Law Society of Kenya), IEK (Institute of Engineers of Kenya), Medical > > Practictioners Board amongst others to regulate the IT Profession. > > > > And by the way, KICTAnet does not fit the bill either (and has a > > different objective anyway). But time has come to really start thinking > > of regulating the IT profession, even as we struggle to regulate the > > industry...Ideally, CSK should take the lead on this, but they have been > > awfully quite except when they award prizes at the end of the year (Waudo > > I know u will kill me offline but I just had to say it!). > > > > KEPSA? very reputable and effective particularly in the Manufacturing > > sector but on IT? am not sure they have been as effective - particularly > > because the link between KEPSA/KIF and the IT industry has been 'cloudy' > > for lack of a better word...Can for example CSK or ISACA be part of > > KEPSA without being part of KIF? I again need to be enlightened. > > > > O.K. I agree I did digress, but just thinking loudly and saying that as > > we think of regulating electronic transactions, we also need to > > simultaneously start regulating the IT profession..but maybe I am wrong. > > Particularly because regulation can and often leads to suppression... > > > > walu. > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > From: Marcel Werner <marcelcwerner(a)gmail.com> > > > Subject: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > > > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > > > Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:43 PM > > > Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > > > > > > Kenya ICT Federation (KIF) - Briefing Note # 3 - Report - > > > Public Panel 19 > > > June 2008 > > > > > > *Electronic commerce (e-commerce) will add at least one > > > percent point growth > > > to Kenya's overall economic growth within five years. > > > This is contingent > > > upon the adoption of legislation that supports electronic > > > transactions. *Kenya, > > > as an emerging economy and regional leader, lags behind in > > > having a legal > > > framework for e-commerce in place. The current situation is > > > an anachronism > > > hampering national development, placing provincial centres > > > at a > > > disadvantage, and harming global competitiveness. Both > > > external and internal > > > trade require the new framework.The Kenyan private sector > > > strongly supports > > > e-commerce legislation, as well as legislation of the > > > Information and > > > Communication Technology sector that guarantees an open > > > market and promotes > > > innovation. > > > > > > Why e-commerce law? Today, legislation supporting > > > electronic transactions > > > represents the single most powerful innovation opportunity > > > in the legal > > > framework of the ICT sector. Legislation is needed to: > > > -Legalize e-commerce transactions by recognizing an > > > electronic signature > > > -Manage and control e-commerce risks > > > -Remove e-commerce barriers > > > KIF has studied drafts currently circulating in the public > > > domain, the > > > Information and Communications Bill, 2008, and the > > > Electronic Transactions > > > Bill, 2007, respectively, both of which are of the highest > > > technical > > > standards. Public panels and hearings with sectors of the > > > economy (including > > > tourism, agriculture, ICT) have been held on 6th and 27th > > > May, 4th June and > > > 19th June. The Kenyan private sector has expressed > > > overwhelming support for > > > urgent legislation of e-commerce. > > > > > > Suggested improvements in Bills - The public panels and > > > hearings to date > > > have yielded the following important issues for improvement > > > in the current > > > Bills: > > > > > > - Provisions on who can prosecute are missing > > > > > > - Liability of Internet Service Providers must be > > > demarcated > > > > > > - Clarification on which commercial documents are > > > excluded from > > > proposed legislation > > > > > > - Eliminate any ambiguity on admissibility of > > > electronic evidence > > > > > > - Need for data protection and privacy provisions > > > > > > - The Bills are more lenient on e-commerce fraud > > > than on > > > traditional fraud > > > > > > - Remove inconsistencies in determining crimes and > > > punishments > > > > > > - Provisions for the inclusion of cyber-crime > > > within the scope of > > > the Extradition Act > > > > > > - Creation of an Administrator for e-commerce laws > > > whose functions > > > will be policy implementation and advisory, as a > > > multi-sectoral body with > > > industry associations including KIF, lead regulator > > > Communications > > > Commission of Kenya and co-regulator Central Bank of Kenya > > > > > > Gains in tourism, agriculture, healthcare > > > > > > Industry sectors, notably the tourism industry, are > > > expressing their desire > > > to see e-commerce covered by law. In tourism, on-line > > > travel bookings have > > > exceeded 80% in the USA and 50% in Europe. Decline in > > > off-line bookings is > > > in ample evidence. Those destinations that cannot legally > > > support abundant > > > on-line booking, such as Kenya, will loose market share. > > > E-commerce in > > > agriculture will improve small-holder's living > > > standards. Great impact is > > > expected notably in the coffee sector that provides > > > livelihood to at least 5 > > > million Kenyans, as well as in the dairy industry. > > > Healthcare efficiency and > > > affordability will improve by on-line health data > > > management systems. > > > Business operators in rural towns and rural centres have > > > also expressed keen > > > interest, as they see scope to address issues of trade > > > efficiency and > > > security in rural Kenya. > > > > > > What is e-commerce > > > > > > E-commerce is a method of trading that replaces paper-based > > > documentation by > > > a mutually binding electronic protocol between buyers and > > > sellers. > > > E-commerce is gaining ground globally and has become an > > > irreversible trend. > > > Many trading partners are already practicing e-commerce, by > > > mutual > > > agreement, also in Kenya. However, e-commerce will reach > > > its full potential > > > when parties that do not know each other are able to trade > > > with full mutual > > > protection under the law. This will benefit large numbers > > > of consumers and > > > businesses, including small-holder farmers, tourism > > > operators, small-scale > > > industry and services providers in almost any business > > > sector. > > > > > > About KIF > > > > > > The Kenya Information and Communication Technology > > > Federation (KIF) > > > represents the ICT industry with Government and with > > > private sector bodies > > > e.g. Kenya Association of Manufacturers and Kenya Private > > > Sector Alliance > > > KEPSA <http://www.kepsa.org/>. KIF is a legally > > > registered membership based > > > Association, made up of trade associations and professional > > > bodies within > > > the national ICT industry, as well as commercial > > > corporations. KIF has been > > > accepted as the private sector voice of ICT by Government. > > > KIF contributes > > > ideas to key sectors like healthcare, education, > > > agriculture, construction > > > industry, and last but not least supports e-government > > > development. KIF is a > > > membership-driven organisation. Members bring issues on > > > public policy and > > > industry development forward for KIF to take action. Issues > > > include: > > > innovation promotion, education improvement, duties, taxes > > > and levies, rural > > > ICT investment. KIF has a strong and active network, with > > > excellent > > > relationships with all government agencies. KIF membership > > > is open for > > > market segment associations and individual companies. > > > Membership charges are > > > annual and based on company size. Contact: > > > secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, 020 > > > 4440102 > > > MARCEL WERNER, Chairman, Kenya ICT Federation > > > > > > please send any business mail to: > > > > Marcel.Werner(a)innovation-africa.or.ke_______________________________________ > ________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: emailsignet(a)mailcan.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.c > om > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work > (Confucius). > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kevit%40centurionsystem > sltd.com > People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius). __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3248 (20080707) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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Flipping over Flip
by Brian Munyao Longwe 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Flipping over Flip http://mashilingi.blogspot.com/2008/07/flipping-over-flip.html Yesterday I came across the most amazing piece of technology that I have seen in recent days. Gregg Zachary was just back in Nairobi enroute to his home in the USA and I managed to catch him for a couple of hours of talk. During this he showed me some videos he had taken in Zambia and Uganda and said that he had used his "Flip camera". I was like, "what? Flip?" and he said "I'll show you." When I saw the device I almost fell over. Barely the size of a cigarette pack, this modern day wonder allows the recording of up to 1 hour of video, stores in in .avi format (YouTube Ready!) on an internal solid state (Flash) disk and uses simple, everyday AA batteries. Wow! The most amazing part of all was the price. Gregg bought his off-the-shelf in the USA before coming out on this trip for $125 (Kshs. 8,000). This amazing little piece of technology has a built-in USB-flash dongle, which allows you to hook it up to your computer - and the software for transferring, editing and managing video is right on the stick! Wacha nikuambie!!!! I believe that this gadget and others like it is probably going to have a similar impact on the videocam industry as cellphones had in the telecoms industry. According to Business Week and the New York Times Pure Digital, the startup company behind the Flip cam was able to achieve 20% market share in the US videocam industry within less than 1 year. My head has been spinning with ideas on how this kind of device can contribute towards the development of local, African content. Boy o boy am I excited. I want to try and put several of these into the hands of people all over Kenya and see what happens.... [Brian blogs at http://mashilingi.blogspot.com and http:// zinjlog.blogspot.com]

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Re: [kictanet] [NewVisionKenya] Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of Kenyan Wealth Owned by Foreigners
by Shem Ochuodho 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

This is an interesting research study. That "Kenyans" own only 31% of "Kenya's" wealth!!! I wonder if there is anybody else perturbed by this fact like me - if at all it is true; and I have no reason to doubt the EA Standard! Apart from South Africa and Nigeria which have enacted laws that restrict the % of stake foreigners can own in banks, Ethiopia too has some interesting laws. There are sectors like banking, broadcasting and air-transport (for aircrafts of less than 20 seating capacity) that are reserved exclusively to 'domestic investors'. There are also sectors (like telecoms) where an investor can only co-invest in partnership with the Government (e.g. currently ZTE/ETC are rolling out a US$ 1.5billion national fiber backbone!!!). One can easily dismiss these Ethiopian (or Nigerian or SAfrican) policies as 'repugnant' - until this 'Kenyan' experience hits you! Wams thanks for sharing! SO --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Margaret Gichuki <Wams2006(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Margaret Gichuki <Wams2006(a)gmail.com> Subject: [NewVisionKenya] Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of Kenyan Wealth Owned by Foreigners To: "KCA" <kca_main(a)yahoogroups.com> Cc: NewVisionKenya(a)yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 6:37 PM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: nmatunda <matunda@hotmail. com> Date: Jun 18, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: [africa-oped] Bulk of Kenyan Wealth Owned by Foreigners To: africa-oped@ yahoogroups. com For many years I have tried to make the point made by Kamau Ngotho below! I am glad that someone has done some research that exposes the fallacy of Kenyans "owning" Kenya. Yet, looking back on events of the past, Kenyans have killed and maimed fellow Kenyans in the pretext that some have eaten more. The real culprits (and we need a national solution for this) are foreign ownership and skewed wealth distribution Read on! By Kamau Ngotho The bulk of Kenya's wealth is in foreign hands, according to statistics obtained exclusively by The Sunday Standard. If Kenya were a cake to be shared out, Kenyans would only lay claim to 31 per cent of the country's total wealth. The rest would go to foreigners. Agriculture, tourism and banking, which combined bring in the country's largest earnings, are in foreign hands. Last year, tea, tourism, flowers and coffee earned the country Sh140 billion, nearly half of the annual national budget. Of this money, only 31 per cent ended up in the country � as tax and real earnings to the nationals. And shareholding in the richest 20 companies that trade at the Nairobi Stock Exchange is foreign. The skewed distribution of wealth between foreigners and Kenyans puts paid to all efforts since independence to hand control of the country to its citizens. Tea growing, which earned the country Sh43.5 billion last year, is concentrated in the hands of six leading agricultural companies whose shareholding is largely foreign. Up to 78 per cent of earnings from tea went, therefore, to foreigners � leaving the balance for Kenyans. The Big Six in the tea sector are Unilever Tea Kenya, Kakuzi Ltd, Williamson Tea Company, Kapchorua Tea, Limuru Tea Company and Sasini Coffee and Tea. The British-owned Brooke Bond Group holds 43.1 million shares of the total 48.8 million shares issued in Univeler Tea Kenya. The same group owns 54 per cent of the total 3.9 million shares issued in Limuru Tea Company. In Kakuzi Ltd, foreigners have a total shareholding of 68.3 per cent of the total 19.6 million shares issued. They hold the shares through Bordure Ltd and Lintak Investment Ltd, with 35.1 and 33.2 per cent shareholding, respectively. Britain's Williamson family has a controlling majority shareholding in both Williamson Tea and Kapchorua Tea companies. In Williamson Tea, it holds 67.2 per cent of the total 8.8 million shares issued through their company, Ngong Tea Holding PLC. In Kapchorua tea, they hold 40 per cent of the 3.9 million shares issued. Sasini Tea and Coffee Ltd is 87.3 per cent owned by business magnate Naushad Merali, a Kenyan. Merali's companies hold his shares in these businesses: Legend Investments Ltd (51.7 per cent), East African Batteries (18.7 per cent), Yana Towers (15.9 per cent) and Swan Estates (1.04 per cent). The reinvigorated tourism sector, which earned Sh42 billion last year, is also foreign-owned. And just as the Sh43.5 billion earnings from tea sector ended up in foreign pockets, so did the Sh42 billion that came from tourism. Tourism earnings went into three directions: Hotels, airlines, and travel/booking agents, in that order. Of Kenya's 290,000-plus tourist hotel bed spaces, foreign hoteliers own 74.3 per cent of it. Tour flights to Kenya are entirely in the hands of foreign airlines. It is all the more foreign-dominated in the traditional tourist peak periods of Easter and Christmas, when there are no scheduled flights to Kenya's tourist hub of Mombasa. During the two seasons, tourists arrive in Mombasa in chartered jets arranged by European tour operators. A tea-picker at work. Foreign companies stationed in European and American capitals also entirely control hotel bookings and transfers. Where internal travel is concerned, foreigners too, dominate by owning 7 of the 11 leading local tour travel firms. At the end of the day, tourism in Kenya remains a foreigners' enclave with indigenous Kenyans left to scratch the surface on petty trades like selling curios and prostitution. After years of lobbying, last year the European Union set aside Sh250 million to economically empower indigenous Kenyans to get a fair share of the lucrative industry. Seven projects were targeted to tilt the balance in a programme called Tourism Diversification and Empowerment Project. But a spokesman at the Nairobi EU office said the money is yet to be released as project proposals submitted are still under evaluation. The only hotel chain listed on the Nairobi Stock Exchange is the TPS Serena. The Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development holds the company's majority shareholding through its company, TPS Holdings Limited. Horticulture, which earned Kenya Sh28.2 billion last year, is the country's third largest foreign exchange earner. It, too, is a foreigners' affair. Indigenous Kenyans mainly come in as casual labourers on the flower farms. Of the 44 certified companies dealing with horticulture products, 26 are foreign-owned. But an even bigger irony is that the leading 10 players in the industry � all foreign-owned � bag 83 per cent of the total income from the sector. Flower farming (floriculture) is the key plank in Kenya's agriculture sector. Seventy six per cent of Kenya's total flower production is concentrated in foreign-owned flowers farms around the Naivasha area. The big three are Homegrown, Sulmac and Oserian. Late last year, Kenya overtook Israel and Columbia as leading exporters of cut flowers. But you would not know that from the world's leading flower auctions in Amsterdam and London. Why? Foreign flower exporters in Kenya have registered their companies abroad � mainly in Amsterdam � and sell flowers they have grown in Kenya under a foreign label. In that case, while flowers from a local company are sold in Amsterdam as flowers from Kenya, Dutch companies growing their flowers in Naivasha sell theirs as flowers from Holland. The consequence of it is that flowers owned by Dutch companies receive preferential treatment at the auction, including exemption from the strict EU-imposed export rules. Flower auctions in Amsterdam and London account for 65 and 25 per cent of Kenya flower sales respectively. Of the approximate 60,000 tonnes of flowers exported from Kenya last year, 37,000 tonnes were sold in Amsterdam and London auctions as flowers from Holland. The statistics can make it look like the entire flower industry in Kenya is one big conspiracy against indigenous people. Foreign air charters, the only ones used in flower transport, charge the highest rates in Nairobi. Freight charges on flowers from Kenya are twice those in the capitals of Kenya's nearest competitors Israel, Columbia and Costa Rica. There are also 40 to 45 per cent higher than in Egypt and South Africa, Kenya's two biggest competitors on the continent. At $400 a day, inspection and storage charges at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport are the highest in the world. So is the freight charge of $1.85-$2.2 per stem. Flowers sold in Kenya's name are inspected stem by stem at the JKIA at the cost of 12 Euro cents a stem. Those grown in Kenya but marketed by overseas-accredited companies are only inspected in bulk. On average, it costs upwards of $1 million to set up a typical flower farm on a half acre spread , which in turn brings in a $50,000 a year. Kenya's fourth leading export earner, coffee, is equally depressing on the ownership scale. The majority of small-scale coffee growers in Kenya sell coffee raw from the farm, earning less than 10 per cent of what the finished end product earns in foreign markets and in a foreign label. Though touted as an agricultural country, the other large-scale agricultural activities in Kenya are also foreign-owned. Rea-Vipingo Plantations, which deals mainly in sisal and dairy farming is 77 per cent owned by the Robinson family of England. They hold the shares through REA Holdings PLC, Unibuckle Holdings Ltd and REA Trading Ltd. Del Monte, world famous for pineapple products, is entirely a French affair and sells its products with the label "Made-in-France" . The question of who owns Kenya's wealth sticks out like a sore thumb in the banking sector. The leading two banks with a combined market share of 71.4 per cent are Barclays Bank of Kenya and the Standard Chartered. They are foreign-owned. Barclays Bank plc of London owns 68 per cent stake in Barclays Bank of Kenya. Standard Bank Africa, a London outfit, in turn owns 81 per cent shareholding in Standard Chartered Bank. To avoid domination by foreign banks, Nigeria and South Africa enacted laws on percentages of shareholding a foreign bank could own. Foreign ownership is also the same cord that runs through key blue chip companies listed on the Nairobi Stock Exchange. At the East African Breweries, British-owned Guinness plc holds 63.5 per cent of the total equity, leaving Kenyans to scramble for the rest. Guinness shares are held in the names of Diageo Kenya Ltd and Diageo Netherlands B.V. In the Nation Media Group, the Aga Khan holds 28.2 million shares of the 35.6 million shares issued. The Aga Khan's shares are held in the names of the Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development and Amin Nanji Juma. In Kenya Airways, Dutch company, KLM, holds 40.6 per cent equity. In Total Kenya Ltd, French companies Total Outre-mer and Elf Oil Kenya Ltd, own 77 per cent of the total shareholding, while in BAT Kenya Ltd, Molensteegh Investment BV of London, holds 68 per cent of the total shareholding. The question of who owns Kenya's wealth generated a national debate in 1968 when the National Council of Churches of Kenya published a paper entitled: "Who Owns Kenya's Industry?" In the paper, the late Anglican Bishop, the Rev Henry Okullu, regretted that five years into independence, "the compass needle had not moved in the direction of indigenous ownership of Kenya's wealth." Thirty-seven years later, the Rev Okullu would turn in his grave to note that the needle has drifted even further away. __._,_.___ Recent Activity 1 New Members 1 New FilesVisit Your Group Yahoo! 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Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya
by Alex Gakuru 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Kevit, Please educate me who are KEPSA, KIF, and Centurion Systems(you?) and how they inter-relate to enlighten the conversation on the underlying dynamics. If they have published websites(vision, mission, strategy members, leadership hierarchy... etc)- that would be most useful. Now at the political stage;) then will come motives and finally whatever proposals each could be advancing.... regards, --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Kevit Desai <kevit(a)centurionsystemltd.com> wrote: > From: Kevit Desai <kevit(a)centurionsystemltd.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation for e-Commerce in Kenya > To: "alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com" <alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "Kevit Desai" <kevit(a)centurionsystemsltd.com>, "kictanet-lists" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:15 PM > Hi Alex, > The Barcamp was a great success. We do need to congratulate > > Skunkworks. Maybe Riaz can tell us how we can scale things > up? > Innovation is a national theme. So many people are > involved. > > KEPSA elections for Governors and Directors are in April > 09. > > Kevit Desai > > > > > > > On 8 Jul 2008, at 07:07, Alex Gakuru > <alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > There is so much work outstanding yet > > so many just want jobs and flashy titles > > Fat salaries and untaxed allowances > > Not that they will excel at the jobs > > No! They will instead obstruct others > > Use their high office appointments to > > frustrate real workers and innovators > > Then lobby for own private interests > > Using the high offices just acquired > > > > This is how I view issues these days: > > > > 1. Start with the politics on the subject > > 2. Study the motives of involved actors > > 3. Then get to the details or proposals > > (If there will be a need after, that is) > > > > "Regulating" akin to "Controlling" > is archic > > Even the future of sector regulation changed. > > > > "Regulating convergence, finding solutions to > > foster creativity and answering consumer fears > > about identity theft, fraud and the invasion > > of their privacy were central questions at the > > recent Organisation for Economic Co-operation > > and Development (OECD) ministerial meeting in > > Seoul, Korea." > > > > Regulators future simplified to concentration > > on increasing competition,consumer protection;) > > > > The “Seoul Declaration” signed by 39 governments > > and the European Union on 18 June was announced > > as a “roadmap for the future of the internet > > economy. The conference was held on 17-18 June. > > > > > <http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/49/28/40839436.pdf> > > > > Civil Society background paper "Fueling > Creativity, > > Ensuring Consumer and Privacy Protection, Building > > Confidence and Benefiting from Convergence." > > > <http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/cs-paper.pdf> > > > > Skunkworks may not be a "Registered > Association" but > > you bet it's value to us is 10x all others > combined. > > > > Looking back, one sees little, if any, consumer value > > proposition from most of already existing > associations, > > except their vocalness advancing "members > interests" > > > > regards, > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Harry Hare > <harry(a)africanedevelopment.org> wrote: > > > >> From: Harry Hare > <harry(a)africanedevelopment.org> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legislation and Regulation > for e-Commerce > >> in Kenya > >> To: alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com > >> Cc: secretariat(a)kif.or.ke, "'KICTAnet ICT > Policy Discussions'" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> > > >> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 2:18 PM > >> Dear all, > >> > >> IMHO in this day and age we should not be talking > about > >> "regulation" or > >> "regulating" anything, this is concept > that

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FW: Advert - KIPPRA Economists
by Edith Adera 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

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E-Files management Tool
by wesley kiriinya 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

Ladies, Gentlemen and Geeks, There is a tool which I think might be very useful in many organizations when it comes to file management. It's called SVN which stands for SubVersioN. Probably some people in the list may already be using it or have heard about it. What is it? SVN was initially created to assist software developers manage their source code files. So it is popularly used in small to large scale software development environments and software repositories. It can also be used to manage ordinary electronic files. It's comes with an easy to use Windows application called TortoiseSVN. It's also available for Linux, Unix family of operating systems, etc. What does it do? Have you been in a situtation where: 1. More than 1 person can access a file in a server, make changes to it and save it back, then there is a conflict between changes made by different people and that conflict has to be resolved cleanly? 2. A person makes a change to a file, saves it and overwrites the original version, then latter the person finds out that s/he needs the original? 3. You are fed up with backing up files by making copies? Not only is it tedious but also becomes disorganized as the files increase and leads to using large amounts of disk space (If a paragraph in a 100 page document is edited, and one still needs the original then a new copy of the edited document has to be saved). SVN keeps track of document changes, including changes to folders. So what's the big deal? SVN alerts anyone sharing a document when there is a conflict between the copy they want to save and the one that is already in the server. This conflict can arise when someone opened the same document, made changes and saved it back without the first person knowing about it. So the first person will be presented with a screen showing the changes made and s/he can merge his/her changes with what the second person did. SVN will keep track of document changes by doing a difference analysis on the documents and storing this difference only, instead of a new document. Another great feature is the ability to look at historical versions of the document. All in all SVN gives you a great way to manage your files be they document, images, etc. Where can I find it (or where can I start)? http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ Security SVN supports SSH and SSL for secure file transfers. You can also restict access to folders and files. Extentions If one is building software that requires the SVN functionality to manage the software's content then it can be integrated with SVN. For example: In government you have different departments that might need to fill out certain parts of a form for an individual. A software system might assist in filling out the form e.g. getting the required fields from a database. If all these departments are working on different parts of the form at the same time and they save, the software can use SVN to merge the entire document into 1 result, and highlight to the relevant departments where a conflict in entries exist. It might take some days to get it up and running, but the savings in terms of time, money and more importantly peace of mind are well worth it! And yeah it's free. B~)

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Open position at AfriNIC
by Brian Munyao Longwe 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

FYI - apologies for cross-posting Begin forwarded message: > From: "Kiran Cunniah" <kiran(a)afrinic.net> > Date: July 7, 2008 11:08:07 AM GMT+03:00 > To: <announce(a)afrinic.net> > Subject: [AfriNIC-announce] Open position at AfriNIC > > Dear Colleagues, > > We wish to inform that AfriNIC has a vacancy for the position of > SENIOR > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. This post will be based at our headquarters in > Mauritius. > > More details are available at http://www.afrinic.net/job/job.htm > > For any further queries, do not hesitate to contact us on > jobs(a)afrinic.net. > > Kind Regards, > > Kiran Cunniah > Executive Assistant > AfriNIC > www.afrinic.net > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: > 02/12/2007 > 20:34 > > > _______________________________________________ > announce mailing list > announce(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/announce >

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Free Culture (was Re: eBay hit with £30m fine for sales of fake luxuries)
by Brian Longwe 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

Hi all, I've made a small change in the subject because now we are talking about much more than just Ebay and looking at *Principles*, *values* and a number of other intangibles (yes, Alex including Intellectual Property). In 1999, David Pogue said: "Unlike actual law, Internet software has no capacity to punish. It doesn't affect people who aren't onlin (and on a tiny minority of the world population is). And if you don't like the Internet's system, you can always flip off the modem. Prof. Lawrence Lessig - another renown author - challenges this point of view and asserts that today the battles that rage online dearly affect "people who aren't online". He says that there is no swith that will insulate us from the Internet's effect. He then proceeds to elaborate on what he calls a "Free Culture" and I quote: ...we come from a tradition of 'free culture' .... A free culture supports and protects creators and innovators. It does this directly by granting intellectual property rights. But it does so indirectly by limiting the reach of those rights, to guarantee that follow-on creators and innovators remain *as free* *as possible* from the control of the past. A free culture is not a culture without property.it is not a culture in which artists don't get paid...a free culture, like a free market, is filled with property. It is filled with rules of property and contract that get enforced by the state. But just as a free market is perverted if its property becomes feudal, so too can a free culture be queered by extremism in the property rights that define it. In my view, the incidents and circumstances surrounding the ebay saga are evidence that extremism is beginning to show, and that those who can afford it are manipulating the 'system' to protect themselves and their property regardless of the fact/extent that they are infringing on the rights of the *individual consumer* - who is largely innocent. Regards, Brian On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> > > > So, I still come back to my earlier point. If I want to > > sell my Toyota > > AE-100 - I have a right to 'identify' it using the > > brand (though the > > brand does not in itself belong to me) - but I have a > > 'transient' > > ownership as far as it relates to 'my' toyota. > > People even refer to it > > as Bryo's toyota. Of course once it is sold, it now > > belongs to someone > > else. > > > > July 7, 2008. Intellectual Property Regime Stifles Science and Innovation, > Nobel Laureates Say > > By Dugie Standeford for Intellectual Property Watch MANCHESTER, UK - The > basic framework of the intellectual property (IP) regime aims to "close down > access to knowledge" rather than allowing its dissemination, Professor > Joseph Stiglitz said at a 5 July lecture on "Who Owns Science?" Stiglitz, a > 2001 Nobel Laureate in Economics, and Professor John Sulston, a 2002 Nobel > Laureate in Physiology/Medicine, launched Manchester University's new > Institute for Science, Ethics and Innovation. Both were highly critical of > today's patent system, saying it stifles science and innovation. > > Link to the article: <http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=1129> > > > > -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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test
by Brian Munyao Longwe 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

is this list working?

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eBay hit with £30m fine for sales of fake luxuries
by alice 07 Jul '08

07 Jul '08

Hi all, interesting ruling by French courts on 30th June....of E-commerce and brand protection, advertisement consumer protection and so many other issues. best alice http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jul/01/ebay.hitechcrime eBay hit with £30m fine for sales of fake luxuries The world's biggest online auctioneer, eBay, was ordered by a French court yesterday to pay €38.6m euros in damages to the luxury goods group LVMH for negligence in allowing the sale of fake bags, lipsticks and designer clothes. The fine of more than £30m is the biggest eBay has faced in Europe and is the latest episode in a series of long-running legal battles it has fought with fashion and cosmetic giants. The site immediately appealed against the ruling and said luxury goods giants were using the issue of fakes as a "stalking horse" to attack online commerce and keep a stranglehold of sales outlets to the detriment of consumers. The confrontation has implications for the access of online shoppers to luxury brands through auction sites and also for eBay's business model as it faces the issue of how to police its platform of global sites, which at any one time have about 100m items for sale across the world. The issue has particular resonance in France - the base for some of the world's biggest luxury goods companies, who have placed themselves at the forefront of fighting counterfeit. The French company LVMH, the world's leading luxury brand, went to the Paris commercial courts demanding €50m in damages over two issues: first it argued that eBay had committed "serious errors" by not doing enough to prevent the sales of fake goods in 2006, including Louis Vuitton bags and Christian Dior products; it also argued that eBay had allowed unauthorised sales of perfume brands owned by the group: Christian Dior, Kenzo, Givenchy and Guerlain. It said that even if the perfumes were real and not fake, their sale on the site violated Christian Dior's distribution network which only allowed sales through specialist dealers. The court ordered eBay to stop selling the perfumes or running ads for the brands, or face a fine of €50,000 a day. The ruling ordered eBay to pay €19.28m to Louis Vuitton Malletier and €17.3m to its sister company Christian Dior Couture for damage to their brand images and causing moral harm. It must also pay €3.25m to the four perfume brands for sales in violation of its authorised network. Pierre Gode, an aide to Bernard Arnault, the LVMH president and France's richest man, told AFP: "It is a major first, because of the principles that it recognises and the amount sought." He said the decision was crucial for the creative industry and "protected brands by considering them an important part of French heritage". The ruling comes a month after another French court ordered eBay to pay the fashion house Hermes €20,000 for allowing the sale of counterfeit handbags. The site said it had stepped up its measures to prevent counterfeiting since 2006 and now spends $20m (£10m) a year keeping the site "clean", using programmes to analyse suspicious sales and working with the owners of brand rights. Last year, 2m items suspected of being counterfeit were removed from the site and 50,000 sales stopped. Vanessa Canzini, an eBay spokeswoman in Europe said: "The big issue here doesn't seem to be to do with counterfeiting - if it was, they would have gone after the counterfeiters. It's about saying we are a luxury brand, we don't want others selling our goods, even if they are real. That's why we will appeal this decision." In a statement, eBay said big luxury goods labels had a hidden agenda and were using fakes as a "stalking horse". "It is clear that eBay has become a focal point for certain brand owners' desire to exact ever greater control over e-commerce. We view these decisions as a step backwards for the consumers and businesses whom we empower every day." The group, which saw around $60bn worth of goods sold across its platforms last year, says that as a host for independent vendors, it has a limited responsibility and capacity to regulate what is sold. But luxury goods groups have accused eBay, which earns a commission on sales, of facilitating forgeries and fakes by providing a marketplace for vendors who knowingly sell counterfeit items. The site is also facing other lawsuits worldwide: the New York jeweller Tiffany & Co has sued the site for turning a blind eye to sales of counterfeits, describing it as a "rat's nest" of fake goods. It also faces action from L'Oreal in the UK and five other European countries.

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