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Re: [kictanet] Faith in local web hosting
by robert yawe 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Hi all, As is normally said by the lake shore "a fish goes bad from the head down", when the authority responsible for encouraging and developing local capacity blatantly shows a preference for external hosting how do we expect the common "mwanainchi" to have faith in local capacity. I also had an interesting experience with Telkom when I tried to have them host a .com, they invoiced me Ksh. 22,000/- where as they register and host .ke at 5,000/-. This was not a new registration, this is a domain that was registered over 5 years ago when Telkom had no idea about domain hosting. So O wonder why they feel it necessary to punish those who are front runners. What I am saying is if those we entrust with the responsibility and authority to carry out a task fail all of us suffer and they should have the courage to reform or resign. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225 ----- Original Message ---- From: Eric Osiakwan <eric(a)afrispa.org> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 7:48:15 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Faith in local web hosting Dear Mr. Washington, You have stated the obvious which is the challenge but let me try to share some light on how to solve the problem. It is really a chicken an egg situation, the localhosting business would develop based on demand but like you said demand is relative to cost. However in the interest of developing our countries and continent if we all commit to having country code top level domain (in this case .ke) and host them locally, the demand would trigger supply. On the other hand if the local entrepreneurs can invest in infrastructure and based on market study provide competitive rates (with the generic TLDs) then again the supply could trigger the demand. Having said that, i have noticed something under the sun, which is that for some reason African just dont like using what other Africans produce so in some ways the former strategy would work better if we deal with the attitudinal change. Eric here On 26 Nov 2007, at 08:35, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Nov 26, 2007 8:03 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi all, I have raised this issue before when I did a search and found out that the CCK web site was hosted overseas and thus how can we expect them to monitor the service quality levels of the ISP's. On Sunday I visited the Kibaki web site, I experienced unstable audio streaming so I decided to find out where the site was hosted, yes you guest it overseas. The other 2 presidential candidates web sites are no better they are not locally hosted. Is this a reflection of who the targets of this web sites are? The Kibaki site is developed by one 3Mice, if I remember right, which has some association with newly appointed ICT Board Managing Director Kokubo. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya It's not the faith the people have in local hosting, but rather the cost factor. Last time I looked at this web hosting biz, one company was charging KES 1,000+VAT per month, which was what was though to be competitive. Another one entered into the fray with hype about reduced costing charges, but I am not sure how much business they managed to pick. All the same, their charges did not compare with what is charged internationally (I mean in Europe and the US). Websites is not something that has caught up with many Kenyans, otherwise the volumes would help sustain such businesses locally. I believe the lack of volumes is one of the factors that makes entities like 3Mice to host overseas. Top-notch Kenyan techies have been hosting their Blog with blogspot (overseas). Bandwidth costs is another. In Europe and the US, individuals can afford to connect 10MBps in their kitchens while in Kenya, that kind of bandwidth can only be purchased by ISPs. One last question though: Do you know any reliable webhosting company that hosts it's websites locally, and has reliable and efficient access to those websites? If there is one, they are not marketing themselves enough. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: eric(a)afrispa.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eric%40afrispa.org Eric M.K Osiakwan Executive Secretary AfrISPA (www.afrispa.org) Tel: + 233.21.258800 ext 2031 Fax: + 233.21.258811 Cell: + 233.244.386792 Handle: eosiakwan Snail Mail: Pmb 208, Accra-North Office: BusyInternet - 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Blog: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/eric/ Slang: "Tomorrow Now" -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.… ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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MJ for President
by Alex Gakuru 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

wow! has anyone seen today's Editorial cartoon on the Daily Nation? Alas! When did ECK receive his nomination papers? eeehhh! Walu, how did we miss the occasion:) How it would complete the illustration if MJ reacted! All for a laugh. Have a laughly day! Alex ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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[BusinessWeek] Would a Gold Standard Save the Dollar?
by Alex Gakuru 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Would a Gold Standard Save the Dollar? With the greenback hitting 40-year lows, some argue for a return to a system where the U.S. dollar is linked to the yellow metal. November 21, 2007 David Bogoslaw These are uncertain times for the U.S. dollar as every day seems to bring fresh all-time lows for the buck against other major currencies. And an uncertain present tends to make people pine for a rose-colored past. The most extreme expression of this longing is the call by some for a return to the gold standard. The longing for the stable currency values seen under the fixed exchange rate system of earlier years is understandable as people fret over the effects of the greenback's fall: everything from a loss of purchasing power at home to higher prices for goods and services on overseas trips. The value of the dollar has been declining since 2002. The U.S. dollar index, a futures contract offered by the New York Board of Trade, which reflects the dollar's standing vs. other major currencies, has been hovering at 40-year lows since the subprime-fueled liquidity crisis this past summer. On Nov. 20, the euro climbed to a new all-time record high of $1.4815, partly in response to the Federal Reserve's more dire forecast for U.S. economic growth. Trade Partners Diversify Currencies Lately, there have been plenty of headlines about the loss of confidence in the dollar by key U.S. trade partners, which could accelerate the dollar's devaluation if any of them decide it's time for a policy change. Take some of the leading oil-producing countries in the Middle East. With the price of oil poised to break through the $100-per-barrel threshold, countries such as the United Arab Emirates and Qatar are said to be considering moving away from pricing crude in terms of dollars in favor of a basket of currencies. Kuwait exchanged its strict dollar peg for a currency basket earlier this year and there's concern that if other countries follow suit, it could reduce demand for the buck and spur other central banks to diversify their holdings, The Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 20. The buck's weakness makes this a perfect time for a return to the gold standard, according to Nathan Lewis, author of Gold: The Once and Future Money. Lewis is advising the UAE to consider adopting a gold peg instead of a basket of currencies if it moves away from a dollar peg for its oil. <http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/nov2007/pi20071121_848642.htm> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [kictanet] BarCamp 2.0 - Conversations
by robert yawe 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Hi, Watch this web site www.tradezone.co.ke for the future in online payment and e-commerce. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 KEnya Tel: +254722511225 ----- Original Message ---- From: Bill Kagai <mediacorp.research(a)mediacorp.co.ke> To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, 22 November, 2007 8:51:52 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] BarCamp 2.0 - Conversations On Nov 22, 2007 5:43 PM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz(a)wananchi.com> wrote: > Some of the questions we have been asking ourselves: > - why are we lagging behind in e-commerce ... why don't we have a > payment gateway yet MPESA. Watch this magic wand...u will soon be paying your bills in the pub with your fone...and we are not far off...see Japan one year ago... http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=147548 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.… ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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Fwd: Re: Food prints around the world
by Leonard Mware 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

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Govt Websites
by Harry Hare 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Dear Colleagues, The Kenya.go.ke appears to be a portal that can lead you to most of the government websites, Bobby, next time you could give it try when looking for a certain ministry.url http://www.kenya.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content <http://www.kenya.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid= 1> &task=view&id=36&Itemid=1 Harry

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Celtel signs text message deal with Telkom-K
by Alex Gakuru 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

[Any chance Celtel could demonstrate their SMS service] Story by NATION Correspondent Publication Date: 11/27/2007 Celtel Kenya has signed an SMS interconnection agreement with Telkom Kenya that allows the latters wireless customers to access the formers network via a short message service. Previously, the interconnection agreement covered voice calls only. Further, Celtel said it would extend interconnection to the Internet service providers (ISPs) to use Celtels platform for the Voice Over Internet Protocol (VOIP). We are proud to open our platform with Telkom and the ISPs as we seek to extend the benefits of the widest coverage to all Kenyans, said Celtel corporate and regulatory affairs manager, Ms Clare Ruto. Last week, Celtel announced the extension of the One Network to six more African countries bringing the total to 12. <http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=3&ne…> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [kictanet] [AfrISPA.Discuss] UUNET MD challenges Kenyan Government estimates of low bandwidth costs
by Eric Osiakwan 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

I concur but there are equally substantial efforts to deal with the energy crisis in Africa both at the regional, national, urban and rural levels. The idea is that these simultaneous peocess shoudl have some co-ordination and ensure maximum impact. For example, i know an investor friend who primarily does Power and Telecom investments at a highly substantial level because of what you mentioned. Eric here ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Global One Solution" <malabow(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: Discuss(a)afrispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:35:05 -0500 >Eric, > >Thanks for the information, African government and corp, still fail to >understand how much money they can make if they offer low cost >connectivity, and just make money the VAS (Value added Service). this >is virgin market, and they make whole alot of $$$$$. This also helps >Africa which can attract technology jobs. But this is my only concern, >What do you guys think how these countries plan to resolve the >Electricity issue, because without electricity we are hopeless.. > > >Thanks again Eric, good information. > >On Nov 25, 2007 6:34 AM, Eric Osiakwan <eric(a)afrispa.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> The cost of Internet connectivity is unlikely to fall to $500 (Sh33,000) per >> megabit per month as the Government has projected, UUNET managing director >> Geoffrey Shimanyula has said. The charges would only fall marginally with >> the landing of the first submarine fibre optic cable in Mombasa, he said. >> >> UUNET- an Internet service provider - which is one of the prospective >> private investors in government-driven East Africa Marine System (TEAMs), >> said such a feat would require the cost of internet connectivity to fall by >> more than 80 per cent from the current average of $5000 per megabit. >> >> The submarine cable is expected to land in Mombasa by second quarter of 2009 >> and terminate in Fujaira, Dubai. >> >> "As you present your budgets for 2010 do not present the $500 figure because >> you may have to go back and justify your adjustments for that item," >> Shimanyula warned IT marketing executives. >> >> "That price can only be for the last mile, the layer two services, and the >> raw pipe - WiMAX or KenStream that you get from Telkom Kenya. There is no IP >> service that can be sold for $500 per megabit per month ," he said. >> >> IT firms, including UUNET, will have to connect to an Internet Service >> Provider (ISP) based in Fujaira before bringing the service - with a mark-up >> to local companies. >> >> "That is where UUNET comes in. We will be connecting directly to Verizon >> Business in Fujaira, who are our principle shareholders hoping that we will >> get competitive rates from them to pass over to our customers," he said. >> >> Information permanent secretary, Bitange Ndemo, however maintained that the >> $500 price was achievable with the a fibre optic cable. >> >> "We have structured the pricing in such a way that even after factoring in >> the cost of onward connectivity the highest an operator may charge is $700. >> Anyone who will be charging consumers more than that in the first year of >> operation will just be serving the cause of greed," he said. >> >> Dr Ndemo said the cost of connectivity was expected to continue dropping >> gradually in the subsequent years as the demand for the bandwidth picks up. >> >> "The reason we are working on these figures is that we do not plan to make >> money from the pipes but only from the services rendered and by taxing the >> jobs that will be created," said Dr Ndemo. >> >> The Kenya government has a 40 per cent stake in the project with Dubai's >> Etisalat holding 15 per cent. A 45 per cent stake has been reserved for >> private telecommunication companies. >> >> Shareholders will have access to large amounts of capacity with a 13 STM1 >> (SynchronousTransport Module ) - basic rate of transmission of fibre optic >> network - for a minimum of five per cent equity investment. >> >> Capacity will be allocated at cost with TEAMs investors paying $400,000 per >> STM1 per year. This translates to $2580.645 per megabit per year up to >> Fujairah and $ 215.00 megabit per month. >> >> TEAMs shareholders are expected to operate on an Internal Rate of Return of >> 32.71 per cent with a pay back of 2.4 years. >> >> Share holders in TEAMs will have the freedom to either use or sell excess >> capacity allocated to them through a pool or directly to the market under a >> bilateral sale arrangement. >> >> CCK has said that only licensed operators will be allowed to sell capacity >> directly to the market - all other shareholders will be allowed to sell >> their excess capacity through jointly coordinated pool sales. >> >> TEAMs shareholders will also benefit from the flexibility of selecting >> onward connectivity carriers from Fujairah. >> >> Dr Ndemo said TEAMs shareholders could get a better deal by collectively >> bargaining for capacity from Fujairah onwards and offer even more >> competitive point to point connectivity prices. >> >> Transit costs from Fujairah to Europe and US stands at between $55,000 to >> $100,000 per year, which Dr Ndemo insists is still in line with the >> government's estimates. >> (Source: Business Daily) >> >> >> >> >> Eric M.K Osiakwan >> Executive Secretary >> AfrISPA (www.afrispa.org) >> Tel: + 233.21.258800 ext 2031 >> Fax: + 233.21.258811 >> Cell: + 233.244.386792 >> Handle: eosiakwan >> Snail Mail: Pmb 208, Accra-North >> Office: BusyInternet - 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North >> Blog: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/eric/ >> Slang: "Tomorrow Now" >> >> >> >> >> > > > >-- >Liban Mohamed >Global One Solution >www.globalonesolutions.net >malabow(a)gmail.com >To unsubscribe send a mail to: imailsrv(a)afrispa.org. Type the following in >the body of your mail (not header): "Unsubscribe discuss" (without quotes). >This List is operated by ZAnet Internet Services: www.zanet.co.za on behalf >of www.afrispa.org. For any List Admin queries send mail to William(a)zanet.co.za > -- Eric M.K Osiakwan Executive Secretary AfrISPA (www.afrispa.org) Tel: + 233.21.258800 Fax: + 233.21.258811 Cell: + 233.244.386792 Handle: eosiakwan Snail Mail: Pmb 208, Accra-North Office: BusyInternet - 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Blog: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/eric/ Slang: "Tomorrow Now" --

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TeleTech Expands Global Footprint Into South Africa
by Dorcas Muthoni 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

TeleTech Expands Global Footprint Into South Africa New Facility to Support Growing Need for Global Outsourcing Distribution Source : Market Wire Date : Monday, November 26, 2007 ENGLEWOOD, CO -- (Market Wire - Nov 26, 2007) -- TeleTech Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEC), one of the largest and most geographically diverse global providers of business process outsourcing (BPO) solutions, today announced its expansion into South Africa, further broadening its global sourcing platform to encompass six continents. Today, TeleTech began construction on its first facility on the African continent. Ground was broken at the Old Match Factory in Salt River, Cape Town, at a ceremony attended by major officials from the South Africa government. The Cape Town facility is scheduled to commence operations later this year. As a new investor to South Africa, TeleTech is the first multinational company to benefit from a new investment incentive plan launched by the South African Department of Trade & Industry, which has targeted the international business process outsourcing industry as a major future source of employment. "BPO is critical to our economic development strategy and we see TeleTech as an anchor company for this new industry," Minister of Trade & Industry Mandisi Mpalhwa said. "We are grateful for the commitment TeleTech has made to develop our industry." TeleTech plans to build a number of new facilities in South Africa and in other African countries, creating thousands of new jobs to serve global clients seeking multiple levels of front- and back- office support. "We welcome TeleTech to South Africa as a partner in our mission to increase our economic growth to six percent and as a strategic bridgehead for the Accelerated & Shared Growth Initiative South Africa," said Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka, deputy president of the Republic of South Africa. "Africa's future is in services and South Africa is a virtually untapped market for offshore BPO. We are attracted by the country's excellent infrastructure, talented and growing labor pool, and the widespread use of English," commented Craig Reines, general manager of TeleTech Africa. "South Africa is a high quality location linking Africa into the global BPO supply chain." ABOUT TELETECH TeleTech is one of the largest and most geographically diverse global providers of business process outsourcing solutions. We have a 25- year history of designing, implementing, and managing critical business processes for Global 1000 companies to help them improve their customers' experience, expand their strategic capabilities, and increase their operating efficiencies. By delivering a high-quality customer experience through the effective integration of customer- facing front-office processes with internal back-office processes, we enable our clients to better serve, grow, and retain their customer base. We use Six Sigma-based quality methods continually to design, implement, and enhance the business processes we deliver to our clients and we also apply this methodology to our own internal operations. We have developed deep domain expertise and support approximately 300 business process outsourcing programs serving approximately 135 global clients in the automotive, communications, financial services, government, healthcare, retail, technology and travel and leisure industries. Our integrated global solutions are provided by more than 52,000 employees utilizing 37,700 workstations across 90 delivery centers in 18 countries. FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS This press release may contain certain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. The projections and statements contained in these forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. All statements not based on historical fact are forward-looking statements that involve substantial risks and uncertainties. In accordance with the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, following are important factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward- looking statements, including but not limited to the following: all of the results reported above are presented without taking into account any adjustments that may be required in connection with the ongoing review of TeleTech's accounting for equity-based compensation plans and should be considered preliminary until TeleTech files its Form 10-Q for the third quarter ended September 30, 2007; the review and possible conclusions may have an impact on the amount and timing of previously awarded non-cash equity-based compensation expense for current and previous financial periods; the effect of TeleTech's failure to timely file all of its required reports under the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, including the potential of a default under its credit facility; our ability to meet the requirements of the NASDAQ Stock Market for continued listing of our shares; potential claims and proceedings relating to such matters, including shareholder litigation and action by the SEC and/or other governmental agencies; and negative tax or other implications for TeleTech resulting from any accounting adjustments or other factors; our belief that we are continuing to see strong demand for our services and that sales cycles are shortening; the ability to close and ramp new business opportunities that are currently being pursued or that are in the final stages with existing and/or potential clients in order to achieve our Business Outlook; estimated revenue from new, renewed, and expanded client business as volumes may not materialize as forecasted or be sufficient to achieve our Business Outlook; the possibility of lower revenue or price pressure from our clients experiencing a business downturn or merger in their business; greater than anticipated competition in the BPO and customer management market, causing adverse pricing and more stringent contractual terms; risks associated with losing or not renewing client relationships, particularly large client agreements, or early termination of a client agreement; the risk of losing clients due to consolidation in the industries we serve; consumers' concerns or adverse publicity regarding our clients' products; our ability to execute our growth plans, including sales of new services; our ability to achieve our year-end 2007 and 2008 financial goals, including those set forth in our Business Outlook; risks associated with attracting and retaining cost-effective labor at our delivery centers; the possibility of additional asset impairments and restructuring charges; risks associated with changes in foreign currency exchange rates; our ability to find cost effective delivery locations, obtain favorable lease terms, and build or retrofit facilities in a timely and economic manner; risks associated with business interruption due to weather, pandemic or terrorist-related events; economic or political changes affecting the countries in which we operate; achieving continued profit improvement in our International BPO operations; changes in accounting policies and practices promulgated by standard setting bodies; and new legislation or government regulation that impacts the BPO and customer management industry. 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Re: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007.
by ibrahim yussuf 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Dear All I can't say that i have read the media bill,but the little that i have read in the media is lopsided and based on their side of the story.The only complains that i keep on hearing in the numerous talkshows that are aired on the TV only highlights the point that the coposition of the media council is not good or is made up of people who are not of that proffession.They dont come up to say anything else about the various clauses which will hinder their progress or how the government is trying to oppress them,am not trying to say that its not there but those are the things which should be highlighted for us to be able to support their arguments well.One funny thing that came out in one of those talkshows is that the KUJ was not with the media owners and that the bill would be very good for the them(KUJ).i believe that the bringing in of models and comedians as journalist has set the precedence for the government to bring in non-media guys to regulate the media,we should not kill this bill just because the owners of the media are not happy,their first obligation is to their shareholders and not to the general public. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > To: yussuf(a)lawyer.com > Subject: [kictanet] Media Bill 2007. > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:03:12 +0300 (EAT) > > > Dear All, > If you read today's papers, you have everything to worry. It is being > alledged that the ICT Bill is worse than the Media Bill and That > Government did not consult. I know you all participated in many ICT fora > discussing just what is being criticised. After the first reading we have > another go at it but not to kill it at inception. > > I need not tell anyone that this Bill will unlock the ICT potential in > this country. Where were these people when you sacrificed your time to > have a just legislation in place? > > On Broadcasting, Kenya has one of the most liberal laws in place. We have > tried to have a frequency in Britain, China, the USA on reciprical > relations in vain. We toned down stakeholder's requirement on restrictive > cross media ownership by adopting South Africa Model but these people want > nothing but jungle laws in a democratic country. > > Since you access internet, please check, there is no country in the world > that does not have some sort of media regulation. In fact opponents of > these Bills should be asked to name at least one country that has no > regulation in media. > > Regards > > > Ndemo. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/yussuf%40lawyer.com > = Skillsoft e business Visit SkillSoft.com now and find corporate e-learning solutions. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=7dfd8a4e1be2404287414c5…

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