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meetings, please note
by Rebecca Wanjiku 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

the ministry is organising FOI workshop on 20th at KSMS registration is thro info(a)information.go.ke the OFC meeting will be held at Jacaranda hotel on 23rd confirmation is thro rebeccawanjiku(a)yahoo.com during this meeting, PS Ndemo will be there to answer questions regarding TEAMS, EASSy, FLAG or any other questions that one may have, starts at 8.30 am to 2pm hope this makes it clear, becky ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

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Re: [kictanet] OFC meeting, friday 23rd
by Jose' 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Where is the venue of the meeting? Best Regards, Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 || ----- Original Message ---- From: Rebecca Wanjiku <rebeccawanjiku(a)yahoo.com> To: ngunjirijnr(a)yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:34:08 AM Subject: [kictanet] OFC meeting, friday 23rd just to let you know that the OFC meeting was changed from the earlier date (22nd) because the PS was not available then, please note in its next friday, 23rd, Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya. Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know._______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngunjirijnr%40yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html

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FOI--- how good is it??
by Rebecca Wanjiku 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Kihanya, thanks for the background, some thoughts on some of the questions raised, Right to verses freedom I think it should be freedom of information because in legal terms, the two terms are different. Though am not a lawyer, I read about the positive rights (right to) and the negative rights (freedoms) Now, governments are quick to obey the negative rights as opposed to positive rights. For instance, we can all go and demonstrate about our freedom from torture or detention without trial and the government will easily heed to our demands, (I guess so) But what about other recognized rights like the right to water? Can the government be compelled to honour our right to water, i think the main objective of the FOI should be to protect e-government and accountability but the bill talks about charging a minimal fee to those accessing information, what will happen to those people out of town, it talks about photocopying and perusal charges, but what about provision of such information in electronic format, do we still pay?? and will it serve the overall objective?? Thats my take on it Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya. Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI?
by joseph kihanya 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Dear Rose, Indeed. FOI is all about each and every individual's right.In some countries it even extends to non-citizens. The contextualization is important. Kihanya ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

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OFC meeting, friday 23rd
by Rebecca Wanjiku 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

just to let you know that the OFC meeting was changed from the earlier date (22nd) because the PS was not available then, please note in its next friday, 23rd, Rebecca Wanjiku, journalist, p.o box 33515, Nairobi.00600 Kenya. Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

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Re: [kictanet] Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI?
by joseph kihanya 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Dear Dorcas, Indeed. The ICT policy does not mention data protection as a key issue at all. The IC Bill 2006 only mention data protection at section 58,62 and 62 but then only making it an offence to "hack" into protected systems. Nothing about.....deliberate disclosures/ sale..etc of data...how long it should be kept etc. Australia has Data protection/Privacy laws on this see ( a bit old but a good summary) http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Privacy/privacy.html Kenya will soon require to legislate on this. It may be that the FOI policy may only mention this obliquely as it would require that a separate Bill deals with this issue. Kihanya ----- Original Message ---- From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> To: kihanyajn(a)yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:52:31 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI? Hi Kihanya, Want to draw a poniter to a related matter as is being dealt in a different country. Please see the link below. http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci1242… Walu had mentioned something related: the protection of consumer data by private companies too. It is important that this is captured. Sorry, cannot find the actual mail on the thread but sure he can relate it. Muthoni On 2/14/07, John Walubengo <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Thanx Kihanya for your efforts. Indeed this is a fairly un-convential topic in that it has no obvious or immediate financial connotations - hence the slower responses... But back to my contribution. I think the policy informing the Freedom Of Information bill should look towards empowering the citizens through facilitating their access to knowledge/information. We need to think through how our collective data regarding our heritage, history, social and economic transactions can be harnessed and made to serve the common good. I know this bill has tended to create controversy because it has often been looked at in the narrow terms of the Govt vs the Media i.e. Media seeks info visa-vis Govt sits on Info. True, this could be one of the issues but it should not limit our scope because the bill should be a reflection of broader policy issues that touch on different data sitting on various platforms such as (Private) Media Broadcasters, Mobile service providers, ISPs, eBankers, etc. How for example can KTN be asked to share (or sell) their valuable film clips to the Kenya Archives dept? How can the East African Standard avail their 100years+ data to the public? When or Why should Safaricom/Celtel divulge the SMS transcript of a certain subscriber to the Police, to the Media or the Private Investigator? What kind of data security standards and practices should we place for critical and national data stores such as KRA, KPA, Immigration, etc? What of the Certification Authority (CA) providers that are likely to play a cenral role in a future eCommerce environment, how will they collect, protect and avail their data? So I think these are some of the Policy issues that need to be thrashed out in the process of coming up with the final FOI bill. walu. --- joseph kihanya <kihanyajn(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I trust we may now move on to day 3. Those with comments > still on day 1 and 2 can still do so. > The themes were... > > Day 1: Why Freedom of Information (FOI) Act? > Day 2: What are the current modalities for accessing data > held by Data Handlers (Govt or Private Sector)? > > > Today's topic really looks as to waht should be the basic > reasoning behind the FOI policy and hence law. > > The principles listed hereunder have been recognized by > Article 19 ( an international organizatioin dealing with > freedomm of te press and related issues) as what should > guide the FOI laws(policy). > > PRINCIPLE 1. Maximum disclosure > > That the law should seek this as its underpinning > philosophy. > > PRINCIPLE 2. Obligation to publish > > That there should be an obligation to publish and > requests should be for non-crucial/ essential / bulky > information. > > PRINCIPLE 3. Promotion of open government > > That the law should promote / recognise the importance > of open government. > > PRINCIPLE 4. Limited scope of exceptions > > That the exceptions should be clear , precise and > allowable in a democratic society/ i,e should not take > away what the law seeks to grant. > > PRINCIPLE 5. Processes to facilitate access > > Clear processes for request should exist. > > PRINCIPLE 6. Costs > > These should be kept at a minimum for the public has > already paid for the creation of the information through > taxation. > > PRINCIPLE 7. Open meetings > > Other than informnation, there should bea promotion of > open dialogue at decsion making level. > > PRINCIPLE 8. Disclosure takes precedence > > The tests that are to be applied by the commssioner and > the appeal tribunal should seek disclosre unless the > exceptions and the public interest demand otherwise. > > PRINCIPLE 9. Protection for whistleblowers > > That those who disclose information that is in the public > interest, inspite of the exceptions should not be > victimised/ should be protected. > > > Lets go! > > Kihanya > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! 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Re: [kictanet] Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI?
by joseph kihanya 15 Feb '07

15 Feb '07

Hi, Thanks Walu. Between my Intro and your post I think that is the summary for the day! Alex, I am making a comment on your post too. Oh well, day 4 approaches. All the three days themes are open to all until friday when I must summarise al comments to present on Tuesday 20th . Kihanya ----- Original Message ---- From: John Walubengo <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> To: kihanyajn(a)yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:42:08 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI? Thanx Kihanya for your efforts. Indeed this is a fairly un-convential topic in that it has no obvious or immediate financial connotations - hence the slower responses... But back to my contribution. I think the policy informing the Freedom Of Information bill should look towards empowering the citizens through facilitating their access to knowledge/information. We need to think through how our collective data regarding our heritage, history, social and economic transactions can be harnessed and made to serve the common good. I know this bill has tended to create controversy because it has often been looked at in the narrow terms of the Govt vs the Media i.e. Media seeks info visa-vis Govt sits on Info. True, this could be one of the issues but it should not limit our scope because the bill should be a reflection of broader policy issues that touch on different data sitting on various platforms such as (Private) Media Broadcasters, Mobile service providers, ISPs, eBankers, etc. How for example can KTN be asked to share (or sell) their valuable film clips to the Kenya Archives dept? How can the East African Standard avail their 100years+ data to the public? When or Why should Safaricom/Celtel divulge the SMS transcript of a certain subscriber to the Police, to the Media or the Private Investigator? What kind of data security standards and practices should we place for critical and national data stores such as KRA, KPA, Immigration, etc? What of the Certification Authority (CA) providers that are likely to play a cenral role in a future eCommerce environment, how will they collect, protect and avail their data? So I think these are some of the Policy issues that need to be thrashed out in the process of coming up with the final FOI bill. walu. --- joseph kihanya <kihanyajn(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I trust we may now move on to day 3. Those with comments > still on day 1 and 2 can still do so. > The themes were... > > Day 1: Why Freedom of Information (FOI) Act? > Day 2: What are the current modalities for accessing data > held by Data Handlers (Govt or Private Sector)? > > > Today's topic really looks as to waht should be the basic > reasoning behind the FOI policy and hence law. > > The principles listed hereunder have been recognized by > Article 19 ( an international organizatioin dealing with > freedomm of te press and related issues) as what should > guide the FOI laws(policy). > > PRINCIPLE 1. Maximum disclosure > > That the law should seek this as its underpinning > philosophy. > > PRINCIPLE 2. Obligation to publish > > That there should be an obligation to publish and > requests should be for non-crucial/ essential / bulky > information. > > PRINCIPLE 3. Promotion of open government > > That the law should promote / recognise the importance > of open government. > > PRINCIPLE 4. Limited scope of exceptions > > That the exceptions should be clear , precise and > allowable in a democratic society/ i,e should not take > away what the law seeks to grant. > > PRINCIPLE 5. Processes to facilitate access > > Clear processes for request should exist. > > PRINCIPLE 6. Costs > > These should be kept at a minimum for the public has > already paid for the creation of the information through > taxation. > > PRINCIPLE 7. Open meetings > > Other than informnation, there should bea promotion of > open dialogue at decsion making level. > > PRINCIPLE 8. Disclosure takes precedence > > The tests that are to be applied by the commssioner and > the appeal tribunal should seek disclosre unless the > exceptions and the public interest demand otherwise. > > PRINCIPLE 9. Protection for whistleblowers > > That those who disclose information that is in the public > interest, inspite of the exceptions should not be > victimised/ should be protected. > > > Lets go! > > Kihanya > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to > find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! 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Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI?
by joseph kihanya 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Dear All, I trust we may now move on to day 3. Those with comments still on day 1 and 2 can still do so. The themes were... Day 1: Why Freedom of Information (FOI) Act? Day 2: What are the current modalities for accessing data held by Data Handlers (Govt or Private Sector)? Today's topic really looks as to waht should be the basic reasoning behind the FOI policy and hence law. The principles listed hereunder have been recognized by Article 19 ( an international organizatioin dealing with freedomm of te press and related issues) as what should guide the FOI laws(policy). PRINCIPLE 1. Maximum disclosure That the law should seek this as its underpinning philosophy. PRINCIPLE 2. Obligation to publish That there should be an obligation to publish and requests should be for non-crucial/ essential / bulky information. PRINCIPLE 3. Promotion of open government That the law should promote / recognise the importance of open government. PRINCIPLE 4. Limited scope of exceptions That the exceptions should be clear , precise and allowable in a democratic society/ i,e should not take away what the law seeks to grant. PRINCIPLE 5. Processes to facilitate access Clear processes for request should exist. PRINCIPLE 6. Costs These should be kept at a minimum for the public has already paid for the creation of the information through taxation. PRINCIPLE 7. Open meetings Other than informnation, there should bea promotion of open dialogue at decsion making level. PRINCIPLE 8. Disclosure takes precedence The tests that are to be applied by the commssioner and the appeal tribunal should seek disclosre unless the exceptions and the public interest demand otherwise. PRINCIPLE 9. Protection for whistleblowers That those who disclose information that is in the public interest, inspite of the exceptions should not be victimised/ should be protected. Lets go! Kihanya ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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SU: Kenyan Anti-Corruption Campaigner Accepts Canadian Fellowship: International Development Research Centre
by harry＠africanedevelopment.org 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

harryhare (harry(a)africanedevelopment.org) has sent you a site! "Kenyan Anti-Corruption Campaigner Accepts Canadian Fellowship" - Kenyan Anti-Corruption Campaigner Accepts Canadian Fellowship: International Development Research Centre http://www.idrc.ca/en/ev-109139-201-1-DO_TOPIC.html You can see my other favorites here: http://harryhare.stumbleupon.com Thanks, harryhare --- StumbleUpon lets you discover great sites with a single click. Give it a try at: http://www.stumbleupon.com/start.php?friend=2292570&emailcode=yr92pmukdexch…

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Day 3: What Policies should inform the FOI?
by joseph kihanya 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

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