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IGF 2014 - Bali - Indonesia
by Bob Omondi 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Listers, This global forum in underway this week in Bali. Please find below some important resources for those who would want to follow online. Remote participation: http://webcast.igf2013.or.id/<https://access-dc.icann.org/owa/,DanaInfo=owa.icann.org,SSL+redir.aspx?C=02…> Live transcription: http://webcast.igf2013.or.id/transcription/<https://access-dc.icann.org/owa/,DanaInfo=owa.icann.org,SSL+redir.aspx?C=02…> Official hashtag: #IGF2013 Pre-events agenda: http://goo.gl/m8lF33<https://access-dc.icann.org/owa/,DanaInfo=owa.icann.org,SSL+redir.aspx?C=02…> Final IGF schedule: http://igf2013.or.id/schedule/<https://access-dc.icann.org/owa/,DanaInfo=owa.icann.org,SSL+redir.aspx?C=02…> Regards Bob Ochieng.

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Re: [kictanet] New comment on "#IFMIS Reloaded? Is this the silver bullet to corruption?"
by Ali Hussein 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Edward/Listers Apologies for cross posting but I couldn't help but share Edward's comments penned in the CIO LinkedIn Group. See email thread below. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb Sent from my iPad > On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:58 PM, CIO East Africa Forum <groups-noreply(a)linkedin.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > CIO East Africa Forum > > > > #IFMIS Reloaded? Is this the silver bullet to corruption? > > Hi All > > My name is Edward and I have been privileged to be an IFMIS trainer i.e. via a consultancy at Treasury we were responsible to train government officials on how to use the new IFMIS system. Its basically an Oracle platform with all accounting modules i.e. GL, AR, AP, PO, CM and FA > > Other than the clunky and sometimes confusing oracle interface, the technology platform is OK. Being that it's an oracle platform its able to handle quite a huge amount of traffic and data from ministerial to county levels. > > Several security and control measures also exist to ensure correct procedures are followed. > > Often times I would pose in class and ask these gentlemen and ladies from GoK what their opinion on corruption and the IFMIS system was and the surprising answer is that they all agreed that though the system provided a role in fighting corruption, the main agents of corruption were the officers themselves who continuously find new ways of cheating the system. > > In one class I was amused when one gentleman remarked that Kenyan babies are special. So special that when they come out of their mothers womb, they already know how to be corrupt. > > My conclusion to the whole bit is that there is no system smart enough to stop or eliminate corruption. Systems can only make it harder or slow down the process of corruption, but if someone is determined to be corrupt, there is no stopping them. To get rid of corruption we have to look into ourselves we as human beings, we as Kenyans, we as stakeholders of this great country and make the decisions and choices that would see us a better country far removed from this vice. > > Edward Ongeso > CTO Integrity Systems Ltd > By Edward Ongeso > > Like > > • > > Comment > > • > > Follow Edward > > > > > Want to stop receiving emails for new comments? Stop following this discussion » > > This email was intended for Ali Hussein Kassim (Experienced Executive at the Intersection of Marketing & Technology). Learn why we included this. © 2013, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA >

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Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.
by Zaipuna Yonah 20 Oct '13

20 Oct '13

Dear Hassan, Dr. Ndemo and all; As per your request, I want all to know, we delivered a NATIONAL strategy that is working.....find attached a short brief on how it was conceptualized and implemented! And of course some highlights on the impact. More research is needed to consolidate the true impact of the strategy. I believe these effects are sustainable! NB: The TCRA level price reduction has to do with the determinations on interconnect charges, applicable to voice products only. Otherwise, data bundles treat voice as data....interconnect charges are not applicable. I am really interested to know how others are doing it. Keep thinking and discussing __________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *P. O. Box 32736* *Dar es Salaam* *Tanzania* *Tel: +255-784-786429* *Fax: +255--732-920133* *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> =============================== *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *===============================* On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Hassan Wekesa <hwekesa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Dr. Yonah, > I know you have directed your thoughts to Walu and Ndemo, however I > think it would also help to give all of us an insight on some of the > strategies you used to come up with the reduction of 99%. I > > I still feel that the cost of Internet BW is still high especially to > Institutions that offer essential services to the citizens an example > being schools (all levels). > The issue of digital divide has not yet been taken care of and so many > other challenges. > Regards, > Hassan > On 10/19/13, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Dr. Ndemo and Walu, > > > > Having participated in driving the reduction of prices of broadband > > connectivity in Tanzania (core/transport Backhaul) by over 99% compared > to > > 2009 prices; it is now time to agree on what we mean "Broadband". > Further, > > I suggest we seriously agree on what it means to connect xxxxxx to ICTs, > to > > help/guide all researchers in reporting about meeting the WSIS targets by > > 2015. Please recall...the first six targets are about connecting xxxx to > > ICTs. Here they are: > > > > 1.To connect villages with ICTs and establish community access points. > > 2.To connect universities, colleges, secondary schools and primary > schools > > with ICTs. > > 3.To connect scientific and research centers with ICTs > > 4.To connect public libraries, cultural centers, museums, post offices > and > > archives with ICTs. > > 5.To connect health centers and hospitals with ICTs. > > 6.To connect all local and central government departments and establish > > websites and email addresses. > > > > Dr. Ndemo, comming up with a harmonised definition certainly will help > data > > collectors to give our region a fair reporting. I request your thoughts > on > > this. > > > > Regards > > > > __________________________________ > > *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* > > *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* > > *P. O. Box 32736* > > *Dar es Salaam* > > *Tanzania* > > *Tel: +255-784-786429* > > *Fax: +255--732-920133* > > *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> > > =============================== > > *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * > > *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* > > *===============================* > > > > >

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Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.
by Zaipuna Yonah 20 Oct '13

20 Oct '13

Dear Dr. Ndemo and Walu, Having participated in driving the reduction of prices of broadband connectivity in Tanzania (core/transport Backhaul) by over 99% compared to 2009 prices; it is now time to agree on what we mean "Broadband". Further, I suggest we seriously agree on what it means to connect xxxxxx to ICTs, to help/guide all researchers in reporting about meeting the WSIS targets by 2015. Please recall...the first six targets are about connecting xxxx to ICTs. Here they are: 1.To connect villages with ICTs and establish community access points. 2.To connect universities, colleges, secondary schools and primary schools with ICTs. 3.To connect scientific and research centers with ICTs 4.To connect public libraries, cultural centers, museums, post offices and archives with ICTs. 5.To connect health centers and hospitals with ICTs. 6.To connect all local and central government departments and establish websites and email addresses. Dr. Ndemo, comming up with a harmonised definition certainly will help data collectors to give our region a fair reporting. I request your thoughts on this. Regards __________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *P. O. Box 32736* *Dar es Salaam* *Tanzania* *Tel: +255-784-786429* *Fax: +255--732-920133* *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> =============================== *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *===============================* On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Hassan Wekesa <hwekesa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Walu, > The same argument also applies to the measure economists use to gauge > growing economies in Africa. When they say country A has the fastest > growing economy, you wonder what parameters have been used. You cannot > compare a country that has just gained stability after maybe civil unrest > and a country that has been stable in terms of economic stability. > It is apparent that the latter will have a higher GDP than the former and > thus cannot be used as a benchmark for comparison. Having said that, I > guess the same analogy can be used in comparing the cost of verifying where > the cost of broadband is cheaper. > Hassan > > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Dr. Ndemo, >> >> I salute you! Thanks for the additional insights. >> >> Regards >> >> __________________________________ >> *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* >> *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* >> *P. O. Box 32736* >> *Dar es Salaam* >> *Tanzania* >> *Tel: +255-784-786429* >> *Fax: +255--732-920133* >> *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> >> =============================== >> *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * >> *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* >> *===============================* >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke>wrote: >> >>> Eng. Dr. Yonah, >>> The average is one of the measures of central tendency. It is not used >>> without looking at other measures in order to give you a clear picture. >>> You always should know the range and the standard deviation. We usually >>> use the average or the mean to get you the rough estimate. In a >>> population the mean is closer to the truth but in a sample collected >>> randomly, it can vary but not too much. There is always a problem with >>> data gathering where some people may not understand the ethics behind >>> authentic data. There are numerous occasions when people lie with >>> statistics. >>> >>> In essence we should not blindly dismiss any numbers unless we have >>> looked >>> at the methodology which is always not given although it is a requirement >>> in such data. >>> >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Thanks Walu! Very helpful indeed. But it reminded me of a book I once >>> read >>> > called: "The Enemy called Average" by John Mason! It is always >>> misleading >>> > when you report by numerical rankings instead of group rankings >>> > especially >>> > using averages! >>> > >>> > In my early years of learning signal processing, I learnt that the >>> > mathematical operator called average is really a FILTER that only >>> extracts >>> > the DC value from the noisy signal (data). It throws out ALL THE NOISE >>> if >>> > indeed you have a very very large (infinity) data sample. Else the >>> average >>> > is very noisy! This is the catchy 22 in the integrity of the reported >>> > figures! >>> > >>> > Once again, thanks Walu. >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________ >>> > *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* >>> > *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* >>> > *P. O. Box 32736* >>> > *Dar es Salaam* >>> > *Tanzania* >>> > *Tel: +255-784-786429* >>> > *Fax: +255--732-920133* >>> > *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> >>> > =============================== >>> > *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * >>> > *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* >>> > *===============================* >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> ** >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Far from it...this is not "dollarization" of our economies. >>> >> >>> >> It is just that researchers have to find a way of defining >>> >> "affordability" >>> >> across different economic domains in order to eventually provide an >>> >> objective ranking. >>> >> >>> >> ITU defines affordability as a function of average incomes. Consider >>> the >>> >> following: >>> >> >>> >> If average incomes in country A = 100Euros (just to avoid the dollar >>> >> focus >>> >> :-), while in country B it is = 200Euros. And If in BOTH countries a >>> >> 1mbs >>> >> Internet link goes for 50Euros per month, which of these two countries >>> >> enjoys cheaper internet services? >>> >> >>> >> 50Euros in Country A happens to be 50% of the average income while 50% >>> >> Euros in Country B is only 25% of the average incomes. Would you like >>> to >>> >> live in a country where internet costs 50% of your salary or where its >>> >> 25% >>> >> of your salary? Country A is considered to be twices as expensive as >>> >> Country B. >>> >> >>> >> Country B is therefore considered to have cheaper internet services >>> >> (even >>> >> though internet does costs the SAME in Euro terms across both >>> >> countries). >>> >> >>> >> not sure if its clearer or worse :-) >>> >> walu. >>> >> -------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, 10/16/13, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest >>> Broadband >>> >> Internet in E-Africa. >>> >> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >>> >> Cc: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe(a)gmail.com>, "I-Network Uganda" < >>> >> i-network(a)dgroups.org>, "eThinkers" <ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com>, >>> >> "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 10:04 AM >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Dear Walu, >>> >> Are you suggesting we approve with open arms the >>> >> mammon called dollarization? I am just >>> >> curious! >>> >> >>> http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tan… >>> >> >>> >> We surely have a long way to go in creating our >>> >> own information even though we have our own knowledge about >>> >> issues like this. >>> >> Keep thinking and discussing... >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________ >>> >> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD >>> >> Consulting Engineer in ICTs >>> >> P. O. Box >>> >> 32736 >>> >> Dar es >>> >> Salaam >>> >> Tanzania >>> >> Tel: >>> >> +255-784-786429 >>> >> Fax: >>> >> +255--732-920133 >>> >> Email: engzaipuna(a)ieee.org >>> >> =============================== >>> >> It is About Engineering People's Lives! & Advancing >>> >> Technology for >>> >> Humanity!=============================== >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 >>> >> at 9:36 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @Brian, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay top-dollar >>> >> to be members of ITU and then we consistently ignore their >>> >> research output for various reasons - including lying :-). >>> >> In which case we should at least stop being members and save >>> >> the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has been >>> >> around for donkey years doing policy research in telecomms >>> >> and we should at least give their report some little respect >>> >> and attention. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate research >>> >> like what Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD has done with >>> >> Research ICT Africa report- whic shows that actually .TZ has >>> >> the most affordable internet services. From the quick >>> >> reading of that I can see that perhaps what Research ICT >>> >> Africa failed to do was that they did not >>> >> "normalize" their figures. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> What this means is that if a coke or any product is 1USD in >>> >> the US and it is also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is still >>> >> considered more expensive in Kenya because of differentials >>> >> in national income levels i.e. they are not equally >>> >> affordable . Put differently an American finds it easier to >>> >> spend the 1USD than the Kenyan would. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> So if one was to "normalize" the Research ICT >>> >> report against national income levels, we would most likely >>> >> arrive at the same (ITU) conclusion. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the >>> >> cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa. >>> >> >>> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> >> >>> >> Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <i-network(a)dgroups.org>, >>> >> "eThinkers" <ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com>, >>> >> "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It's a lie, I am here and >>> >> >>> >> frustrated with high costs of broadband... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at >>> >> >>> >> 9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got >>> >> >>> >> to find a comparative approach to make sense out of these >>> >> >>> >> studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But the >>> >> >>> >> customer knows the truth! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Regards >>> >> >>> >> __________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD >>> >> >>> >> Consulting Engineer in ICTs >>> >> >>> >> P. O. Box >>> >> >>> >> 32736 >>> >> >>> >> Dar es >>> >> >>> >> Salaam >>> >> >>> >> Tanzania >>> >> >>> >> Tel: +255-784-786429 >>> >> >>> >> Fax: +255--732-920133 >>> >> >>> >> Email: engzaipuna(a)ieee.org >>> >> >>> >> =============================== >>> >> >>> >> It is About Engineering People's >>> >> Lives! & Advancing >>> >> >>> >> Technology for >>> >> >>> >> Humanity!=============================== >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM, >>> >> >>> >> Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Folks,(apologies for cross-posting) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and >>> >> TZ >>> >> >>> >> by virtue of "owning" the International Internet >>> >> >>> >> conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar >>> >> >>> >> respectively, they would offer the cheapest Internet >>> >> costs. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been >>> >> >>> >> tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is >>> >> >>> >> ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally >>> >> in >>> >> >>> >> terms of affordability. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the >>> >> >>> >> Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put >>> >> >>> >> differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his >>> >> salary >>> >> >>> >> to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about >>> >> >>> >> 4% of their GNI. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Those who can withstand the statistics/readings can pull >>> >> the >>> >> >>> >> Executive Report at >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Documents/publications/mis2013/MIS20… >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> @ CS Matiang'i - this could be part of your bedtime >>> >> >>> >> reading collection :-) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> walu. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> kictanet mailing list >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a >>> >> >>> >> multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions >>> >> >>> >> interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband
by Paul Roy Owino 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Internet in E-Africa. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1609357535==" --===============1609357535== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34346489ac1404e8d64fcb --047d7b34346489ac1404e8d64fcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First let me welcome Dr. Yonah whom have worked with previously in Tanzania and has done alot for his country to transform ICT. I honestly believe TZ has the cheapest access to internet. I do not need to read all the literature but based on my stay in TZ, UG, and KE I have enough experience to make this bold statement. I like the document shared by Yonah clearly arguing his case based on concrete facts. Lets not believe these half-baked research from the so called ITU. We know the truth from the ground. Paul Roy. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Zaipuna Yonah Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2013 10:04 AM To: Paul Roy Cc: I-Network Uganda; eThinkers; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa. Dear Walu, Are you suggesting we approve with open arms the mammon called dollarization? I am just curious! http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tan= zanian-Economy.pdf/ We surely have a long way to go in creating our own information even though we have our own knowledge about issues like this. Keep thinking and discussing... Regards __________________________________ *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD* *Consulting Engineer in ICTs* *P. O. Box 32736* *Dar es Salaam* *Tanzania* *Tel: +255-784-786429* *Fax: +255--732-920133* *Email: **engzaipuna(a)ieee.org* <engzaipuna(a)ieee.org> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D *It is About Engineering People's Lives! **& * *Advancing Technology for Humanity!* *=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D* On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > @Brian, > > this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay top-dollar to be member= s > of ITU and then we consistently ignore their research output for various > reasons - including lying :-). In which case we should at least stop bein= g > members and save the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has been > around for donkey years doing policy research in telecomms and we should = at > least give their report some little respect and attention. > > But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate research like what Eng. > Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD has done with Research ICT Africa report- whic > shows that actually .TZ has the most affordable internet services. From t= he > quick reading of that I can see that perhaps what Research ICT Africa > failed to do was that they did not "normalize" their figures. > > What this means is that if a coke or any product is 1USD in the US and it > is also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is still considered more expensive in > Kenya because of differentials in national income levels i.e. they are no= t > equally affordable . Put differently an American finds it easier to spend > the 1USD than the Kenyan would. > > So if one was to "normalize" the Research ICT report against national > income levels, we would most likely arrive at the same (ITU) conclusion. > > walu. > > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband > Internet in E-Africa. > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <i-network(a)dgroups.org>, "eThinkers" < > ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM > > > It's a lie, I am here and > frustrated with high costs of broadband... > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at > 9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got > to find a comparative approach to make sense out of these > studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But the > customer knows the truth! > > > Regards > __________________________________ > Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD > Consulting Engineer in ICTs > P. O. Box > 32736 > Dar es > Salaam > Tanzania > Tel: +255-784-786429 > Fax: +255--732-920133 > Email: engzaipuna(a)ieee.org > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > It is About Engineering People's Lives! & Advancing > Technology for > Humanity!=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM, > Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks,(apologies for cross-posting) > > > > This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and TZ > by virtue of "owning" the International Internet > conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar > respectively, they would offer the cheapest Internet costs. > > > > > > But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been > tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is > ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally in > terms of affordability. > > > > Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the > Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put > differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his salary > to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about > 4% of their GNI. > > > > > > Those who can withstand the statistics/readings can pull the > Executive Report at > > > http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Documents/publications/mis2013/MIS= 2013-exec-sum_E.pdf > > > > @ CS Matiang'i - this could be part of your bedtime > reading collection :-) > > > > walu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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I do not need to read all the literature b= ut based on my stay in TZ, UG, and KE I have enough experience to make this= bold statement.<BR><BR>I like the document shared by Yonah clearly arguing= his case based on concrete  facts.<BR><BR>Lets not believe these half= -baked research from the so called ITU. We know the truth from the ground.<= BR><BR>Paul Roy.<BR><BR>Sent from my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <HR> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH= T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Zaipuna Yonah</A></S= PAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FO= NT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri,sans-serif">=E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2013 10:04 AM</SPAN><B= R><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEI= GHT: bold">To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,= sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Paul Roy</A></SPAN><BR><= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT= : bold">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,san= s-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">I-Network Uganda</A>; <A = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">eThinkers</A>; <A href=3D"mail= to:[email protected]">KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</A></SPAN= ><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-= WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Calibri,sans-serif">Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest B= roadband Internet in E-Africa.</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><div dir= =3D"ltr">Dear Walu,<div><br></div><div style>Are you suggesting we approve = with open arms the mammon called dollarization?=C2=A0</div><div style>I am = just curious!=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/0= 1/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tanzanian-Economy.pdf/">http://clknet.or.tz/wp-c= ontent/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tanzanian-Economy.pdf/</a><= /div> <div style><br></div><div style>We surely have a long way to go in creating= our own information even though we have our own knowledge about issues lik= e this.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Keep thinking and discussing..= .</div> <div style><br></div><div style>Regards</div><div style><br></div></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>______= ____________________________</div> <div><strong>Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD</strong></div> <div><strong>Consulting Engineer in ICTs</strong></div> <div><strong style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);font-size:x-small">P. O. Box 327= 36</strong></div> <div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Dar es Salaam</strong></fon= t></div> <div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Tanzania</strong></font></d= iv> <div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Tel: +255-784-786429</stron= g></font></div> <div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Fax: +255--732-920133</stro= ng></font></div> <div><strong>Email: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank"><strong>engzaipuna(a)ieee.org</strong></a></div> <div>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</div> <div><i>It is About Engineering People's Lives!=C2=A0</i><i style=3D"fo= nt-family:arial;font-size:small">&=C2=A0</i></div><div><i style=3D"font= -family:arial;font-size:small">Advancing Technology for Humanity!</i></div>= <div><i>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</i></div> </div></div> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Waluben= go J <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bl= ank">jwalu(a)yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex= "> <u></u> <div style> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div> <div> <div> =20 =20 <p>@Brian,<br> <br> this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay top-dollar to be members = of ITU and then we consistently ignore their research output for various re= asons - including lying :-). In which case we should at least stop being me= mbers and save the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has been aro= und for donkey years doing policy research in telecomms and we should at le= ast give their report some little respect and attention.<br> <br> But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate research like what Eng. D= r. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD has done with Research ICT Africa report- whic sho= ws that actually .TZ has the most affordable internet services. From the qu= ick reading of that I can see that perhaps what Research ICT Africa failed = to do was that they did not "normalize" their figures.<br> <br> What this means is that if a coke or any product is 1USD in the US and it i= s also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is still considered more expensive in Kenya= because of differentials in national income levels i.e. they are not equal= ly affordable . Put differently an American finds it easier to spend the 1U= SD than the Kenyan would.<br> <br> So if one was to "normalize" the Research ICT report against nati= onal income levels, we would most likely arrive at the same (ITU) conclusio= n.<br> <br> walu.<br> <br> --------------------------------------------<br> On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= om" target=3D"_blank">blongwe(a)gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband In= ternet in E-Africa.<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jwalu(a)yahoo.com</= a><br> Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= rg" target=3D"_blank">i-network(a)dgroups.org</a>>, "eThinkers" = <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ethin= ktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com</a>>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions&quot= ; <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ki= ctanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br> Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM</p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br> <br> It's a lie, I am here and<br> frustrated with high costs of broadband...<br> <br> <br> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at<br> 9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ= et=3D"_blank">zaipuna.yonah(a)gmail.com</a>><br> wrote:<br> <br> How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got<br> to find a comparative approach to make sense out of these<br> studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But the<br> customer knows the truth!<br> <br> <br> Regards<br> __________________________________<br> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD<br> Consulting Engineer in ICTs<br> P. O. Box<br> 32736<br> Dar es<br> Salaam<br> Tanzania<br> Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B255-784-786429" value=3D"+255784786429" target=3D"_= blank">+255-784-786429</a><br> Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B255--732-920133" value=3D"+255732920133" target=3D"= _blank">+255--732-920133</a><br> Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">engzaipuna= @ieee.org</a><br> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> It is About Engineering People's Lives!=C2=A0&=C2=A0Advancing<br> Technology for<br> Humanity!=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM,<br> Walubengo J <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jwalu= @yahoo.com</a>><br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> =C2=A0<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Folks,(apologies for cross-posting)<br> <br> <br> <br> This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and TZ<br> by virtue of "owning" the International Internet<br> conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar<br> respectively, they would offer the cheapest Internet costs.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been<br> tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is<br> ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally in<br> terms of affordability.<br> <br> <br> <br> Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the<br> Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put<br> differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his salary<br> to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about<br> 4% of their GNI.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Those who can withstand the statistics/readings can pull the<br> Executive Report at <br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Documents/publications/m= is2013/MIS2013-exec-sum_E.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-= D/Statistics/Documents/publications/mis2013/MIS2013-exec-sum_E.pdf</a><br> <br> <br> <br> @ CS Matiang'i - this could be part of your bedtime<br> reading collection :-)<br> <br> <br> <br> walu.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br></div></div><div class=3D"im"> _______________________________________________<br> <br> kictanet mailing list<br> <br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">kictane= t(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br> <br> <a href=3D"https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target= =3D"_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br> <br> <br> <br> Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href=3D"https://lists.kictanet.or= .ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">https:/= /lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com</a><br> <br> <br> <br> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a<br> multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions<br> interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Introducing A1 Academia
by Ngigi Waithaka 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Good morning Listers, They say charity begins at home and so we have just launched our new site for A1 Academia ( http://academia.a1.io ) which includes a lot more information and downloads for our flagship HigherEd Product. We would like and appreciate comments and reviews, however, taking in mind that the product is not specifically targeted at the Kenyan market. -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke

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African Union Convention on Confidence and Security on the Cyberspace
by Grace Githaiga 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Listers Once again please see the draft AU Convention on the confidence and security in cyber security. http://pages.au.int/sites/default/files/AU%20Cybersecurity%20Convention%20E… Is anyone aware of the team drafting this Cyber Security Convention? Have any Kenyan groups been part of the development process? Any info from CCK? The draft will be opened up for signature and ratification in January 2014. The draft justifies unwarranted restrictions on freedom of expression, unlimited intrusion into the privacy of individuals and corporations. It also criminalises unsolicited electronic communications among other challenges. Henry Maina of Article 19 and Victor Kapiyo may want to share the legal perspectives on this draft and what it would mean for Kenyans. RgdsGG

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Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.
by Walubengo J 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Folks,(apologies for cross-posting) This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and TZ by virtue of "owning" the International Internet conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar respectively, they would offer the cheapest Internet costs. But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally in terms of affordability. Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his salary to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about 4% of their GNI. Those who can withstand the statistics/readings can pull the Executive Report at http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Documents/publications/mis2013/MIS20… @ CS Matiang'i - this could be part of your bedtime reading collection :-) walu.

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Re: [kictanet] KENYA POWER - The Answer to Universal Connectivity for all?
by Matunda Nyanchama 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Friends I like cheap bandwidth; and all Kenyans (actually all global citizens) need affordable bandwidth; some say it is a human right. I must assume that KPLC, Safaricom, Telkom Kenya, .... that are all laying fibre, have done their business plans/models to justify the spending. I cannot second guess them. Competition is also good as shown from the cost of airtime that has fallen progressively, making it affordable for more and more people; and making piles of money for the companies. It is good for the economy and the nation. We need regulation that allows access of infrastructure of one provider to others, provided there is agreement on charges. We shouldn't go the way of banks (anyone from CBK here?) where one cannot reach their accounts from ATMs of some banks! ... One thing I would love to hear (perhaps from our economists) the cumulative costs of providing services. For instance for telecoms get a per unit spend : add all cost elements (people, infrastructure, facilities, equipment, ...) divided by the number of users/subscribers. Compare this with similar charges in other countries ... I am not sure what the data will tell. It will have a story, inferences ... And may also raise questions such as: as a nation, would we have better spent the money elsewhere? Or: we need to spend more as we are spending too little given priorities. Over to you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manage your ICT risks! We are the experts you need! The trusted partners you deserve! Call: +1-888-587-1150 (Canada) +254-20-267-0743 (Kenya) or info(a)aganoconsulting.com Licensed by Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The best revenge is massive success" - Frank Sinatra----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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@iBizAfrica Open Day/Demo Day on Wednesday 23rd October from 2pm to 6pm
by John Matogo 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Dear colleagues. @iBizAfrica is the business incubator at Strathmore University, located on the 5th floor of the Student Centre building. We invite you to come and visit the young entrepreneurs that are based here at the incubator and see some of the exciting business ventures they are involved in. We now have over 70 individuals in about 33 projects working at the Incubator on various projects. We welcome you to come by on 23rd October between 2pm and 6pm to see some of the work the entrepreneurs are involved in and learn more about the Incubation process. Register your participation on the Open Day by clicking on this link http://ibizafricaopenday.eventbrite.com/ More information about the business incubator is available here: www.ibizafrica.co.ke We look forward to seeing you then. Regards, John Matogo Manager Incubation Centre, @iBizAfrica Strathmore University P.O. Box 59857-00200 Nairobi, KENYA Tel: +254 070 303 4280 (direct line) Personal Mobile:+254 722 813 533 Skype: jmatogo Twitter: @jmatogo LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/avcn7qu Web: www.strathmore.edu and http://www.ibizafrica.co.ke/ -- Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore's Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184>to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity>Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU>Account".

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