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Follow Connected Government Summit 2010 on Twitter
by Lucy Odhiambo 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Follow Connected Gov Summit on Twitter. We will be tweeting throughout the Connected Government Summit. Please track the hashtag #connectedgov <http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23connectedgov> we will be taking questions and comments from twitter at various intervals during the summit. So if you have a question or comment and you are on twitter please include the hashtag in your tweet. If you are not on twitter you can track the hashtag and submit your questions by email or on a dedicated section on our website, where we will be accepting feedback. We also intend to have a feedback section on our newly created connected gov website by Monday morning. Regards, Lucy Gachui Odhiambo, Communications Manager Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers , Kenyatta Avenue Entrance Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 737 839 047 Fax: +254 20 2211962 website: www.ict.go.ke Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment

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Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
by Harry Delano 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Lucy, If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the summit. I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings. That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans can be availed online. Are there such plans afoot..? Harry _____ From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Harry (Not Hare), I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the Criterion? Regards From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM To: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken.. And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed. Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals (MNC's)..? Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place. Harry.. _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Harry (not the Hare ;-) As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear... Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His disciples and other interested parties. On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!! walu. nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take action to interven. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: From: Harry Delano <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM Walu, Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash" Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Yawe, Google brought me the official answer @ http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government. walu. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke

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ICT Board to Create Content
by robert yawe 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Hi, I continue with this issue of the ICT Board more because the other boards e.g. coffee board, pyrethrum board, sugar board and irrigation board have clear mandates that have been defined the same does not apply for the ICT Board. Why the special treatment yet we see next to no impact from their activities which seem disjointed and uncoordinated. I received the following link from a colleague on the creation on content as described by the ICT Board and reminds me of what he keeps reminding me that content is not a loaf of bread it is a lifestyle. http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/entertainment/74-books/131--paris-red-hot-lo… So I ask again, what is the ICT Board? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Prequalifications of Supplier
by James Kagwe 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Morning, Kindly check out details on prequalification of suppliers and tender information for KIPPRA at http://www.kippra.org/Prequalification.pdf just in case you may be interested. regards, James Kagwe -- ÐÏà¡±á

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Africa: Less Than 1 Million Country Domain Sites,
by alice＠apc.org 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Africa: Less Than 1 Million Country Domain Sites, says new surveyA country domain is an Internet 'top level' code assigned to a country, for example .za (South Africa), .uk (United Kingdom), .de (Germany), .fr (France) and .zw (Zimbabwe). ZADNA is the Department of Communications-funded agency in charge of managing SA's internet .za space.The .ZADNA report also found that most South African businesses and people (83%) prefer to use .za ahead of .com (15%). However, more than half of Africa's one million country domain websites registrations are in South Africa, according to the survey, which means 535,711.za domains are registered, 16,000 (3%of all South African sites) of which are .org.za websites."These 535,711 are what we call active websites because we do delete a couple of websites each month due to non-renewal," Mpisane said. There are roughly 90,000 (17%) websites registered in South Africa under the .com domain.Mpisane said: "The research results are very important as they provide answers to most of the questions we and our stakeholders had about improving the .za space. These answers clarify what interventions .ZADNA or its stakeholders need to make to improve our Internet space."Registering one .za website costs about R50, and a .com website costs roughly US$7."When someone registers a country domain (.za) website, the money stays in SA, while a .com website registration fee leaves the country," Mpisane said, pleading with South Africans to register country domain websites to support the .za space.Furthermore, most businesses interviewed (58%) prefer registering their products and brand names across multiple domain names to counter the ever-increasing instances of trademark abuse, Mpisane revealed.Internet name-tampering ('squatting') has become a new trend and a lucrative business in the current Internet space, where the number of registered websites worldwide now stands at 192 million, 85 million of which are .com websites. Mpisane advised businesses to check time and time again with their ISPs if their domain name has been tampered with.(Source: Biz-Community) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya

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Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
by Solomon Mburu Kamau 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

So there was an invite for an ICT meeting at the Coast? Just like somebody has asked, what is the rationale and criteria for selecting the participants? And the invitations? On 26/03/2010, Emmanuel Khisa <Emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke> wrote: > Harry (Not Hare), > > > > I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the > invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the > Criterion? > > > > Regards > > > > From: kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Harry Delano > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM > To: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? > > > > > > Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken.. > > > > And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010" announcement, > as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed. > > > > Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at Leisure > Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited > > to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to follow > the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as > > most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be multinationals > (MNC's)..? > > > > Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those up > there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place. > > > > Harry.. > > > > _____ > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM > To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? > > > > On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Harry (not the Hare ;-) > > As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear... > > > Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to His > disciples and other interested parties. > > > On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight on what > ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo to further > explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!! > > > > walu. > nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who must take > action to interven. > > > --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> wrote: > > > From: Harry Delano <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> > Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? > To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > > > Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM > > > > Walu, > > > > Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the > way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash" > > > > Harry > > > > _____ > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> > =comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM > To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? > > > Yawe, > > Google brought me the official answer @ > http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives > > But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is > that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent > for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by > the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) > cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to > deliver on technology enabled services for Government. > > walu. > > --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM > > Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? > > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com > > > > > -- > Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the > same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! > > http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com > http://smiley2.wordpress.com > http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > > > > > > > > -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke

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CONNECTED GOVERNEMENT SUMMIT 2010 - MARCH 29TH TO APRIL 1ST - LEISURE LODGE , DIANI
by Lucy Odhiambo 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Dear Listers, Today we held a pre-event press briefing on the above Connected Government Summit we are hosting in Leisure Lodge Diani, next week, Monday to Thursday. We are very excited about this upcoming event and are working as a team to ensure its success. As an update, I have attached the press release we issued today as well as the revised concept note. Already several PSs confirmed to attend as well as MPs and senior government officials. Also have over 15 private sector leading ICT firms confirmed to attend andexpect about 100-120 attendees in total. We are now finalizing the program and will upload it on our website before the start of the conference. Regards, -- Lucy Gachui Odhiambo Communications Manager Kenya ICT Board 12th Floor, Telposta Towers Koinange Lane PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya Cell 0737 839047 www.ict.go.ke

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Re: [kictanet] Revisiting The Broadband Debate in Kenya - Do the people really want cake when they all they need is bread?
by Francis Hook 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

How many devices in Kenya are 3G enabled (and I gather in this context what is really meant is UMTS). If these devices are not within reach of most people, will operators incur huge costs upgrading their networks to 3G (let alone 4G - even South Africa are toying with this and its not on any operators "to do list" for 2010). As it were even 2.5G devices are out of reach (though after Safaricom slashed the prices of various devices today - this may change) But going back to the debate about mobile broadband, the point I am driving at (albeit in a very roundabout fashion) is, do we need to be discussing 4G at a period when operators are grappling with how to shore up revenues (voice ARPU keeps declining, and while data usage increasing - prices wars still ensue and increased data usage is putting a strain on the network and affecting QoS - in some cases this has been attributed to some 3G bandwidth hungry devices). Its good to move with the times but most times we need to stop and ask if we really need it or if its an ego-driven decision... I think 3G is a "nice to have" technology that only a handful can really enjoy or benefit from. Rather than consider 4G and the inherent infrastructure costs to operators (esp in a market that is most certainly not ready for 4G never mind that is is a market that perhaps does not quite make a good business case for 3G), I think closing access gaps should be the industry priority....and where possible, after closing such gaps, looking for ways to increase data usage for existing 2G and 2.5G devices (gprs, edge) - for example m-government applications (within government and for G2C, G2B), pvt sector CRM systems, supply chain, retail, etc Aside from applications there is the issue of content - and with all due respect I do not mean hawking ringtones, wallpapers or jokes - rather availing USEFUL applications that in themselves compel people to keep using their data bundles to access those ringtones, jokes, wallpapers, social networks, date lines, news, free streaming media and a host of other content - all for FREE and not to itemise the cost for each ringtone, etc Thus sell the bandwidth NOT the items that go through it. I believe we have the local capacity - operators need to join the fray and meet these developers to come up with innovative and useful applications. Sent using my 2.5G USB modem and read on my 2.5G blackberry. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Mucheru <mucheru(a)google.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:36:57 To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting The Broadband Debate in Kenya _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke<http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/[email protected]> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:02:00 +0300 From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> To: "'Brian Longwe'" <blongwe(a)gmail.com> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting The Broadband Debate in Kenya Message-ID: <E1Nv8Am-0001gN-Gs(a)mail.gprs.safaricom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mblayo, Thanks. What in your considered opinion would be the best way forward out of the debacle, as things appear to be at standstill on that end..? Now, every report touching this issue even way back in 2007 when 3G was first paid for, mentions it as a 3G license, while it might have been a payment for frequency ( 3G Frequency License, if you would), to carry 3G Technology - whatever the case it is a matter that needs to be resolved in order, as you put it - To provide a level playing ground - and to help drive Mobile broadband forward. At best, it would appear like a "standoff" currently. Hope it is being addressed, speedily.. Harry -- Francis Hook +254 733 504561

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Re: [kictanet] Projects - National Implementation - ICT
by Harry Delano 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Dear Ps, As you can, see I have changed the subject on this thread, so that the discussion is not only on a particular project,at the same time not to appear to send wrong connotations. We do not intend to cast aspersions on any personality. Frankly, what we concerned with here and would kindly request to be addressed, is the tendency by different govt. depts to assume "a go alone" approach on matters that involve a lot of stakeholders in different sectors nationally,only for such non consultative projects to hit several "dead ends" be declared non-starters with huge cost ramifications, wastage and credibility - At best they become "white elephants". Enough of these dot our national landscape, and it's just so saddening that we never seem to learn. There are very valid reasons for engaging, to consult widely. Sometimes, it is a good way to get a "Reality check" before jumping. As far as ICT is concerned, tools, brain resources to tap from and good will are widely available. We can ensure we make effort to have things done right. Possibly if all could adopt an "open door" policy, and engage just as you yourself have made effort to, then we would make a lot of progress. Just a thought. Regards, Harry -----Original Message----- From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:09 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus KIE is doing a great job on education content development. We have several joint initiatives. Next week March 29 -31 we have a major e-learning conference to showcase local digital content. You are all welcome. We shall make great progress if we begin by asking rather than complaining. Development is largely thinking positive and taking risk in good faith. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:22 To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus If I would look at it from another angle, I suppose also and I will keep on insisting - Let us please ensure for grand projects such as this that will impact on the nation, we develop a Multistakeholder approach, consult widely and sell the idea and also listen to other ideas out there,then settle on the best - in terms of feasibility,impact and cost effectiveness. I think while it is good to initiate good projects that stand to benefit the nation, it will be prudent also to develop a model that will ensure all angles of such projects are covered right through from the point of incubation to implementation. We are accustomed now to "Surprise projects" when least expected, which fade off as soon as they are mooted. While we on this topic, I posted earlier this morning an initiative by the Ministry of Education to digitalize the Academic curriculum in schools. For instance in this case, is the ministry of ICT Involved? What about other stakeholder...? What would this portend - especially for Educational Material /curriculum Publishers, who may lose a market share in the education sector? How feasible is it? What is the impact of the huge digital divide at present on such an initiative? What about broadband? Shouldn't we address this first..? Certainly a lot of questions..I think it would be advisable for the govt. organs to engage far & wide.. Harry -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:29 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the schools, clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. Education must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not simply school children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition these projects are financially self sustaining after implementation and prove much needed employment. Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do not begin the journey it will never be done. Blessings, Crystal Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50 To: <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Robert, Things are not as easy as you write here. Today in Kenya you cannot try to do anything without taking into account of regional interests. I hope you are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to cover the entire country in the next five years. Consider that Ministry of Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet you will need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and 9,000 secondary schools. If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change. We must for example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed youth computers. By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did for your country. Like it is said "it is easier said than done". Regards Ndemo. > Hi, > > It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the Hon. > Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe > once bitten twice shy. > > The project was to cost Kes. 1.2 B with each bus costing Kes. 7 > Million which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per > province this was surely another scan in the making. I remember the > MP of Kisumu Hon. > Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self > seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of > sanity in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath. > > I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from > the mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the > books are left behind. > > With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with > 20 computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, > and many other thinks. > > Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to > meet the objectives. > > - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M > - This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical > wiring & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m > which means we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 > screens/pcs. We could build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing > provided the interlocking soil block making machines > > - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million > we which we need to provide sufficient power. The computers will need > to be low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing > devices that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more students. > With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA > which can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank. > > - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, > printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local caching. > This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the > graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been > offered technical training. > > - 20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified > in ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide > enough computer teachers. > > - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there > are no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God > does not charge for solar, yet). > > The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be > made available to the community in the evenings and as digital > villages over the weekends where content can be generated, yes local > content (ask me for details). > > Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why > won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility > study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% > and well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already > consumed the 7 million. > > Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water > and writing materials for a bonding session. > > Regards > > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change > your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.c > o.ke > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafric a.org _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/harry%40comtelsys.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

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Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
by Harry Delano 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

Walu, Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash" Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Walubengo J Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Yawe, Google brought me the official answer @ <http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives> http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS (Government Info Technology Services) cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government. walu. --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com

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Re: [kictanet] At 24, Computer Society must go past collecting
by Francis.Hook＠gmail.com 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Really interesting. Beyond the levity evident in the article, I think the issues she she raises are valid and merit sober discussion Francis Hook IDC East Africa 0733 504561 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:48:26 +0300 From: Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] At 24, Computer Society must go past collecting fees Message-ID: <4632ba861003242148p2fea14d4id0cc6d028998ff77(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Interesting piece from today's Business Daily http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/At%2024%20Computer%20Society%20must%20go…

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Who is ICT Board?
by robert yawe 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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At 24, Computer Society must go past collecting fees
by Agosta Liko 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Interesting piece from today's Business Daily http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/At%2024%20Computer%20Society%20must%20go…

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GOK Shared Services conference
by robert yawe 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Hi, It is interesting to see how Safaricom can quickly spot an opportunity and take advantage of it, during the Prime Ministers Round Table meting with the private sector on Monday it was proposed that the government needs to implement a shared services infrastructure with the objective of outsourcing. Today I read that Safaricom has organised a de-siloing session that will sensitize permanent secretaries on the need to share services to avoid duplication and increase efficiencies, this is a very commendable project. But I would like to bring to Safaricoms attention that the government has tried this many times before with a case in point being Nyayo House where a shared infrastructure was implemented to enable all ministries and other departments housed in the building to share services such as a central PBX and operators (call center), document production center and security. This worked for a short while after which individual ministerial interests took over and PBX systems started popping up all over the place. It is not that the government is not aware of how to implement a shared services infrastructure but that there is no will to do so, best of lack. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus
by Shah, SurajX 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Robert Yawe has done some serious homework on the proportions of the budget that can be allocated to ICT roll out in schools. However changes/improvements in ICT trends in Education, the technology involved and the methods applied dictate that these can be bettered such that for the same amounts we can reach more schools (and therefore more students), spend less on bricks and mortar, train more teachers on ICT and 21st Century skills. We can share with you best practices and experiences elsewhere. Regards Suraj Shah Corporate Affairs Manager Intel Corporation | Kenya | Office: 7th Floor, Purhsottam Place, Westlands Road next to CfC Stanbic Bank, Nairobi | Tel: +254 20 3601724 / 3601727 | Mobile: +254 722 412277 | Email: surajx.shah(a)intel.com -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+surajx.shah=intel.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:05 PM To: Shah, SurajX Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 84 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus (bitange(a)jambo.co.ke) 2. Re: Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus (Harry Delano) 3. Re: Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus (bitange(a)jambo.co.ke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:07:45 +0300 (EAT) From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke To: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Cc: kictanet-bounces+crystal=voicesofafrica.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Message-ID: <4e64551e391b9d49d83a194b1c863d54.squirrel(a)mail.jambo.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Crystal, I understand your argument. The most amusing thing in all the bus discussion business, nobody ever asked for the concept paper to see why it was proposed. Now that I am beggining to understand the arguments advanced, I hope someone will share a white paper or prove of concept in our presentations. We shall get to learn more when we back our arguments with best practices elsewhere. Regards Ndemo. > That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers > and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and > Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the > schools, clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. > Education must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not > simply school children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition > these projects are financially self sustaining after implementation and > prove much needed employment. > > Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure > that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do > not begin the journey it will never be done. > > Blessings, > > Crystal > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50 > To: <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus > > Robert, > Things are not as easy as you write here. Today in Kenya you cannot try > to do anything without taking into account of regional interests. I hope > you are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. > Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to > cover the entire country in the next five years. Consider that Ministry > of Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet > you > will need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and > 9,000 secondary schools. > > If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change. We must for > example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed > youth computers. By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did > for your country. Like it is said "it is easier said than done". > > Regards > > > Ndemo. > > > > >> Hi, >> >> It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the >> Hon. >> Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe >> once >> bitten twice shy. >> >> The project was to cost Kes. 1.2 B with each bus costing Kes. 7 >> Million >> which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per province this >> was >> surely another scan in the making. I remember the MP of Kisumu Hon. >> Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self >> seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of >> sanity >> in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath. >> >> I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from >> the >> mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the books >> are left behind. >> >> With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with 20 >> computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, and >> many >> other thinks. >> >> Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to >> meet the objectives. >> >> - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M >> - >> This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical >> wiring >> & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m which >> means >> we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 screens/pcs. We could >> build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing provided the >> interlocking >> soil block making machines >> >> - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million >> we >> which we need to provide sufficient power. The computers will need to >> be >> low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing >> devices >> that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more students. >> With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA >> which >> can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank. >> >> - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, >> printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local >> caching. >> This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the >> graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been >> offered technical training. >> >> - 20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified in >> ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide enough >> computer teachers. >> >> - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there >> are >> no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God does >> not charge for solar, yet). >> >> The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be made >> available to the community in the evenings and as digital villages over >> the weekends where content can be generated, yes local content (ask me >> for >> details). >> >> Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why >> won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility >> study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% >> and >> well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already >> consumed the 7 million. >> >> Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water and >> writing materials for a bonding session. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:22 +0300 From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> To: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Message-ID: <E1NuV4o-0007qI-35(a)mail.gprs.safaricom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If I would look at it from another angle, I suppose also and I will keep on insisting - Let us please ensure for grand projects such as this that will impact on the nation, we develop a Multistakeholder approach, consult widely and sell the idea and also listen to other ideas out there,then settle on the best - in terms of feasibility,impact and cost effectiveness. I think while it is good to initiate good projects that stand to benefit the nation, it will be prudent also to develop a model that will ensure all angles of such projects are covered right through from the point of incubation to implementation. We are accustomed now to "Surprise projects" when least expected, which fade off as soon as they are mooted. While we on this topic, I posted earlier this morning an initiative by the Ministry of Education to digitalize the Academic curriculum in schools. For instance in this case, is the ministry of ICT Involved? What about other stakeholder...? What would this portend - especially for Educational Material /curriculum Publishers, who may lose a market share in the education sector? How feasible is it? What is the impact of the huge digital divide at present on such an initiative? What about broadband? Shouldn't we address this first..? Certainly a lot of questions..I think it would be advisable for the govt. organs to engage far & wide.. Harry -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:29 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the schools, clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. Education must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not simply school children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition these projects are financially self sustaining after implementation and prove much needed employment. Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do not begin the journey it will never be done. Blessings, Crystal Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50 To: <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Robert, Things are not as easy as you write here. Today in Kenya you cannot try to do anything without taking into account of regional interests. I hope you are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to cover the entire country in the next five years. Consider that Ministry of Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet you will need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and 9,000 secondary schools. If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change. We must for example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed youth computers. By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did for your country. Like it is said "it is easier said than done". Regards Ndemo. > Hi, > > It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the Hon. > Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe > once bitten twice shy. > > The project was to cost Kes. 1.2 B with each bus costing Kes. 7 > Million which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per > province this was surely another scan in the making. I remember the MP of Kisumu Hon. > Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self > seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of > sanity in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath. > > I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from > the mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the > books are left behind. > > With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with > 20 computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, > and many other thinks. > > Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to > meet the objectives. > > - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M > - This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical > wiring & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m > which means we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 > screens/pcs. We could build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing > provided the interlocking soil block making machines > > - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million > we which we need to provide sufficient power. The computers will need > to be low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing > devices that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more students. > With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA > which can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank. > > - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, > printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local caching. > This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the > graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been > offered technical training. > > - 20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified > in ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide > enough computer teachers. > > - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there > are no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God > does not charge for solar, yet). > > The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be > made available to the community in the evenings and as digital > villages over the weekends where content can be generated, yes local > content (ask me for details). > > Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why > won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility > study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% > and well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already > consumed the 7 million. > > Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water > and writing materials for a bonding session. > > Regards > > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change > your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.c > o.ke > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafric a.org _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/harry%40comtelsys.co.ke ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:09:22 +0000 From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Message-ID: <958146811-1269457751-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1636562568-(a)bda152.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" KIE is doing a great job on education content development. We have several joint initiatives. Next week March 29 -31 we have a major e-learning conference to showcase local digital content. You are all welcome. We shall make great progress if we begin by asking rather than complaining. Development is largely thinking positive and taking risk in good faith. Regards Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:22 To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus If I would look at it from another angle, I suppose also and I will keep on insisting - Let us please ensure for grand projects such as this that will impact on the nation, we develop a Multistakeholder approach, consult widely and sell the idea and also listen to other ideas out there,then settle on the best - in terms of feasibility,impact and cost effectiveness. I think while it is good to initiate good projects that stand to benefit the nation, it will be prudent also to develop a model that will ensure all angles of such projects are covered right through from the point of incubation to implementation. We are accustomed now to "Surprise projects" when least expected, which fade off as soon as they are mooted. While we on this topic, I posted earlier this morning an initiative by the Ministry of Education to digitalize the Academic curriculum in schools. For instance in this case, is the ministry of ICT Involved? What about other stakeholder...? What would this portend - especially for Educational Material /curriculum Publishers, who may lose a market share in the education sector? How feasible is it? What is the impact of the huge digital divide at present on such an initiative? What about broadband? Shouldn't we address this first..? Certainly a lot of questions..I think it would be advisable for the govt. organs to engage far & wide.. Harry -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:29 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the schools, clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. Education must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not simply school children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition these projects are financially self sustaining after implementation and prove much needed employment. Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do not begin the journey it will never be done. Blessings, Crystal Sent from my BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50 To: <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus Robert, Things are not as easy as you write here. Today in Kenya you cannot try to do anything without taking into account of regional interests. I hope you are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to cover the entire country in the next five years. Consider that Ministry of Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet you will need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and 9,000 secondary schools. If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change. We must for example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed youth computers. By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did for your country. Like it is said "it is easier said than done". Regards Ndemo. > Hi, > > It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the Hon. > Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe > once bitten twice shy. > > The project was to cost Kes. 1.2 B with each bus costing Kes. 7 > Million which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per > province this was surely another scan in the making. I remember the MP of Kisumu Hon. > Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self > seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of > sanity in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath. > > I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from > the mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the > books are left behind. > > With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with > 20 computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, > and many other thinks. > > Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to > meet the objectives. > > - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M > - This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical > wiring & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m > which means we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 > screens/pcs. We could build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing > provided the interlocking soil block making machines > > - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million > we which we need to provide sufficient power. The computers will need > to be low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing > devices that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more students. > With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA > which can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank. > > - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, > printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local caching. > This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the > graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been > offered technical training. > > - 20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified > in ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide > enough computer teachers. > > - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there > are no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God > does not charge for solar, yet). > > The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be > made available to the community in the evenings and as digital > villages over the weekends where content can be generated, yes local > content (ask me for details). > > Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why > won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility > study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% > and well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already > consumed the 7 million. > > Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water > and writing materials for a bonding session. > > Regards > > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change > your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.c > o.ke > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafric a.org _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/harry%40comtelsys.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet End of kictanet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 84 **************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- Branch office of Intel South Africa Corporation 2nd Floor, South Wing, Building 14, The Woodlands Western Service Road, Woodmead, 2148 Johannesburg, South Africa The above is a branch office of: Intel South Africa Corporation A Corporation registered in Delaware, USA Registered Office: 1209 Orange Street, Wilmington, Delaware 19801, USA Registered No: 2501764 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). 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Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus
by bitange＠jambo.co.ke 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Crystal, I understand your argument. The most amusing thing in all the bus discussion business, nobody ever asked for the concept paper to see why it was proposed. Now that I am beggining to understand the arguments advanced, I hope someone will share a white paper or prove of concept in our presentations. We shall get to learn more when we back our arguments with best practices elsewhere. Regards Ndemo. > That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers > and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and > Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the > schools, clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. > Education must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not > simply school children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition > these projects are financially self sustaining after implementation and > prove much needed employment. > > Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure > that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do > not begin the journey it will never be done. > > Blessings, > > Crystal > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50 > To: <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus > > Robert, > Things are not as easy as you write here. Today in Kenya you cannot try > to do anything without taking into account of regional interests. I hope > you are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. > Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to > cover the entire country in the next five years. Consider that Ministry > of Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet > you > will need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and > 9,000 secondary schools. > > If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change. We must for > example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed > youth computers. By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did > for your country. Like it is said "it is easier said than done". > > Regards > > > Ndemo. > > > > >> Hi, >> >> It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the >> Hon. >> Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe >> once >> bitten twice shy. >> >> The project was to cost Kes. 1.2 B with each bus costing Kes. 7 >> Million >> which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per province this >> was >> surely another scan in the making. I remember the MP of Kisumu Hon. >> Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self >> seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of >> sanity >> in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath. >> >> I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from >> the >> mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the books >> are left behind. >> >> With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with 20 >> computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, and >> many >> other thinks. >> >> Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to >> meet the objectives. >> >> - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M >> - >> This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical >> wiring >> & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m which >> means >> we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 screens/pcs. We could >> build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing provided the >> interlocking >> soil block making machines >> >> - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million >> we >> which we need to provide sufficient power. The computers will need to >> be >> low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing >> devices >> that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more students. >> With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA >> which >> can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank. >> >> - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, >> printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local >> caching. >> This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the >> graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been >> offered technical training. >> >> - 20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified in >> ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide enough >> computer teachers. >> >> - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there >> are >> no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God does >> not charge for solar, yet). >> >> The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be made >> available to the community in the evenings and as digital villages over >> the weekends where content can be generated, yes local content (ask me >> for >> details). >> >> Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why >> won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility >> study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% >> and >> well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already >> consumed the 7 million. >> >> Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water and >> writing materials for a bonding session. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

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Request for Proposals - Python Software Development
by Cecilia Matanga 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Dear Listers Please find attached a Request for Proposals that may be of interest to you. Please circulate within your networks Thank you -- Cecilia Matanga Programme Officer Africa i-Parliaments Action Plan UNDESA Nairobi - Kenya Mobile : +254-718568154 Telephone : +254-20-374 9892/3 Fax : +254-20-374 9894

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Will broadband have an impact on e-Government demand and supply in Kenya?
by Lilian Karanja 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Dear Listers: Now that broadband technology is here, and we know that it is certainly going to enhance the competitiveness of our economy and sustain economic growth, am increasingly wondering what strategies the Government of Kenya is working on, to develop broadband applications that will enhance the delivery of public services to citizens. There is no doubt that the Government of Kenya has taken great strides to harness the implementation and use of broadband technologies with the Ministry of Information and Communications leading the way. Is there an e-Gov/Civic Engagement program that will evaluate how broadband can improve the performance of government specifically in terms of transparency and citizen participation and more generally in terms of effectiveness and efficiency? Such engagement programs with ‘mwananchi’, on broadband and eGovernment, will consider various ways all levels of government, can use broadband to improve public service performance and delivery, including lessons that might apply, for the purposes of developing a pragmatic national broadband plan. The Government of Kenya needs to take stock, consider and pay keen attention to the potential benefits of universal broadband in enabling various government operations to move to a digital platform in terms of improved performance, cost savings, and strategic benefits to the communications infrastructure. The Government should initiate such programs with the support of the private sector. 'Mwanachi' needs to know how they are a part of e-Government and now 'this' new phenomenon, ‘broadband’, and what they can do to enjoy the privileges that both bring. Lilian.

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Broadband plan gives FCC wider cybersecurity role
by alice 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Broadband plan gives FCC wider cybersecurity role The National Broadband Plan released by the Federal Communications Commission this week contains several recommendations that are designed to boost the preparedness of communications networks to deal with cyberthreats. <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9172258/> EFF: FTC to Internet Companies: Start Using SSL <http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/ftc-internet-companies-start-using-ssl> (might be good policy for CCK to look at?) U.S. Rockefeller and Snowe Unveil Comprehensive Cybersecurity Legislation, Senate Commerce Senator John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, and Senator Olympia J. Snowe (R-ME) , a senior member of the Committee, today released the latest draft of comprehensive, bipartisan cybersecurity legislation to address our nation¹s vulnerability to cyber crime, global cyber espionage, and cyber attacks. <http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_i…>

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Govt to implement ICT in learning institutions
by Harry Delano 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Hey Listers, Quite an interesting read.. The more, the reason why Broadband, across the country is a matter of urgency... However, what would this portend - especially, perhaps for Educational Material/curriculum Publishers, who may lose a market share in the education sector.. On the flipside, it would help in the efforts towards Content Digitalization, Green ICT and Bridging the Digital divide.. Again, this topic came up on this forum a while back. Just how "multistakeholder" this initiative is going to be undertaken will greatly impact it's success.. Your thoughts please.. Harry http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=62933 Govt to implement ICT in learning institutions Written By:Carol Gakii/KNA , Posted: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 The government plans to make the entire education sector Information Communication Technology compliant. To this end the government will introduce an increased range of information and communication technologies and e-learning facilities in learning institutions countrywide. Addressing the press at a Nairobi hotel Tuesday Education Minister Prof Sam Ongeri said the ministry was working with the Kenya Institute of Education (KIE) to develop a digital curriculum programme for public schools. "The ministry, through the Kenya Institute of Education (KIE) has embarked on the digitalization of various curricula and curriculum support materials in efforts to enhance accelerated learning," Ongeri said. He said Kenya was lagging behind in ICT compliance but the ministry has started implementing plans to acquire modern technology. Prof Ongeri said that by beefing up ICT knowledge in all institutions of learning, the ministry will be playing a key role in the realization of vision 2030. So far 2,000 out of the 25,000 public schools in the country have been equipped with ICT knowledge. A regional E-learning conference will be held later this month at the KIE. The regional conference, the first of its nature is expected to attract over 1,500 participants from the Eastern and Central African region. "The use of ICTs enables development objectives which improves communication and exchange of information to strengthen and enhance the learners' acquisition of necessary skills for operating effectively," Ongeri said. He added that with the adoption of e-learning, science subjects will be taught with minimum recurrent cost. Ongeri said the government would provide alternative power sources such as solar, wind and power batteries to enable students from lower social-economic backgrounds have easy access to E-learning.

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Re: [kictanet] Seeking reputable org/agency in order to donate the funds for PEV Orphans
by June Arunga 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Dear Listers, A Miami based group is organizing a noteworthy fashion show titled Fashion for Peace Miami. This year, the proceeds are tagged for the orphans of the post election violence in 2007. Fashion for Peace Miami, needs help identifying and connecting with an organization/agency in Kenya that focuses on the children affected by that particular conflict. Since it is a not-for-profit organization they need to be connected with a reputable org/agency (that is in compliance with the US Internal Revenue Service) in order to donate the funds raised from the event. Any assistance with this would be most useful. Thanks. June Arunga

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Internet connectivity
by Sam Aguyo 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Dear Listeners, A small production unit based around Kendu Bay belonging to a church where i worship needs internet connectivity for its user base of about 10-25 users on a LAN. Please you can get in touch with me offline for a bargain solution. Regards, Sam Aguyo

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Accenture eyes Kenya as outsourcing location
by Rebecca Wanjiku 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Accenture is a global outsourcing giant read more- http://bit.ly/9z3ZKG Tel. 254 720 318 925 blog: wanjiku.co.ke

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When the Internet consumer market bites back...
by aki 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Dear Listers, Sorry for the cross-posting and am adding my opinion. There is a story in Business Daily today titled " AccessKenya records 31 p.c. drop in profit " . No matter what way you look at the article, the consumer has spoken. I believe we are now going to see a turning point for kenya's internet pricing. Competition for higher bandwidths at affordable rates is now starting to kick off. The original idea that was used by ISPs whereby after Seacom and Teams landed was to double bandwidth at existing prices was not a good idea and thus must have lead to depressed sales or no new sales. Lack of sales puts a severe financial stress on ISP companies, especially those who took up both under-sea fiber connectivity. In my opinion, I think the market has bitten back! Data Telcos and ISPs are now going to have to go head to head on competition for newer customers. I personally welcome back the competition. :-)

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] When the Internet consumer market bites back...
by James Muendo 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Personally, I will call it voting with your feet. My 2cents. On 23 March 2010 07:48, Amarjit Labhuram < dj_labu_ft_freakonaleash(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > If anybody is interested in the article its available at this link: > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/AccessKenya%20records… > > Aki, I am totally with you. We as consumers do have some control to what > decisions are made in the boardrooms of these corporate companies. The > future decisions of AK and similar firms towards price wars is inevitable > and the old strategy of "double the bandwidth for the same price" shall not > go on for too long if the ISP wants to survive our market. That is my > opinion and just that!! > > Have a great day! > > Warm regards, > Amarjit Singh Labhuram. > ====================== > MacroTECH Portal Ltd. > -------------------------------------------- > P.O. Box: 1501 - 00621, > Nairobi, KENYA. > -------------------------------------------- > Zain: +254-735-528725 > Safaricom: +254-721-528725 > Fax: +254-773-006734 > > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:31 AM, aki <aki275(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> Sorry for the cross-posting and am adding my opinion. >> >> There is a story in Business Daily today titled " AccessKenya records 31 >> p.c. drop in profit " . No matter what way you look at the article, the >> consumer has spoken. >> >> I believe we are now going to see a turning point for kenya's internet >> pricing. Competition for higher bandwidths at affordable rates is now >> starting to kick off. The original idea that was used by ISPs whereby after >> Seacom and Teams landed was to double bandwidth at existing prices was not a >> good idea and thus must have lead to depressed sales or no new sales. Lack >> of sales puts a severe financial stress on ISP companies, especially those >> who took up both under-sea fiber connectivity. >> >> In my opinion, I think the market has bitten back! Data Telcos and ISPs >> are now going to have to go head to head on competition for newer customers. >> I personally welcome back the competition. :-) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- James M. Muendo Timsoft Technologies & Solutions Ltd. P.O Box 28016 - 00200, Nairobi. Mobile: +254725567508 skype:tim.rick http://rickdeesadvantage.blogspot.com/

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