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FW: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Mobile phone firms seek Govt's support
by Harry Hare 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Interesting article below... Harry ------ Forwarded Message > From: Sendoro <js(a)sendoro.com> > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:56:55 +0000 (GMT) > To: 'ethink' <ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Mobile phone firms seek Govt's support > > > Dear ethinkers, > > The below article from TheCitizen may be of interest to you! > > ===============================================START========================== > =============================== > Mobile phone firms seek Govt's support > By The Citizen Reporter > > The Government has been asked to support efforts by a consortium of > telecommunication companies that seek to invest in a single infrastructure > connecting the companies� networks to the national backbone. > > Zain managing director Khaled Muhtadi said in Dar es Salaam last week that his > company, as well as Tigo, Zantel and Simbanet had teamed up under a consortium > for the project. > > Mr Muhtadi said instead of competing to build trenches, ducts and fibre > cables, the telecommunication companies thought it wise to team up and have an > infrastructure that would seamlessly integrate with the Government's one. > > "Our request to the Ministry of Communications, Science and Technology is to > support this consortium in securing the right of way to build this > infrastructure. > > "The ministry should also provide us with details of the planned national > backbone, including the rollout schedules, and the technical and commercial > terms at the earliest time possible," he said. > > Mr Muhtadi, who was speaking during the Economist Magazine Roundtable, said in > the absence of such information, including right of way and clear ownership > rights for the operators, Tanzania would lose an early mover advantage to > neighbouring countries. > > The Zain boss said in the wake of challenging economic times, Zain had adopted > value creation strategies that allow it to adapt to market realities while > continuing to innovate with customer insight at the heart of its future > direction. > > Mr Muhtadi said his company was proud that as of today, Zain customers could > receive incoming transfers from abroad directly to their mobile phones through > Zap. "International remittances can be sent from any financial institution > abroad to mobile phones in Tanzania. > > Remittance receivers can cash the received amount at a Zain shop or any of the > 1,800 Zap agents across the country," explained Mr Muhtadi. 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Re: [kictanet] ICT Jobs at Huawei
by John Kariuki 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Dear all, I received the attached from a colleague.Please pass the information to as many qualified people as you may reach . Thanks, Eng.J.N.Kariuki

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The Premier B.Sc. Computer Science Programme in Kenya
by Agosta Liko 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Muthoni. Could you share the proposed 4 year curriculum so that we can review ... Also, please advice on when/how you intend to take views from employers etc etc Will there be a forum ? Thanks Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:45:24 +0300 From: Muthoni Masinde <muthoni(a)uonbi.ac.ke> To: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > Cc: moturi <moturi(a)uonbi.ac.ke>, "waema(a)uonbi.ac.ke" <waema(a)uonbi.ac.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] The Premier B.Sc. Computer Science Programme in Kenya Message-ID: <C71CA624.C4A%muthoni(a)uonbi.ac.ke<C71CA624.C4A%25muthoni(a)uonbi.ac.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everyone, Below is a brief description of the first (in Kenya) Bachelor of Science in Computer Science programme; it is currently under review: MOTIVATIONS AND OBJECTIVES The School of Computing & Informatics (formerly Institute of Computer Science) of the University of Nairobi launched the Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) programme in 1992. The programme was aimed at meeting perceived development needs in Kenya, which it has done very well. Indeed, most of the computer science professionals in industry today have been developed through this programme. However, with experience in offering this programme and given changes in national development needs as well as changes in the fast evolving area of IT, it has become necessary to revise this programme. This programme is part of a set of academic programmes (Masters programmes in: 1) Computer Science, 2) Applied Computer Science and 3) Information Systems as well as PhD in Computer Science) at the School that have been motivated by the following needs at the national level: (a) The need for Kenya to harness IT for increased productivity and effectiveness in all sectors of the economy for national prosperity. (b) The need for widespread socio-economic awareness (in Kenya) of the purpose and capabilities of information systems. (c) The need for Kenya to participate effectively in and reap maximum benefits from the global information economy. (d) The need to address the increasing demand for IT education in the world of work. The specific objectives of the Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) programme are: (a) To present the theoretical foundations in computer science and to integrate these theories in a way that gives the learner deep knowledge of computer science (b) To enable learners to use the knowledge gained to analyze, design and implement solutions to a wide range of real-world problems. (c) To develop learners who are practical and problem solving-oriented and capable of life-long learning. (d) To contribute to the production of computer science and information systems professionals required at the various levels of our nation?s industrial development and thereby be a partner in the industrial development of Kenya. PROGRAMME REVIEW GUIDELINES A number of us in the KICTANET list have a stake in this programme; we are either current/potential employers/parents/guardians of these graduates or we could be current/past students of this programme or even policy makers in relevant sectors. We will appreciate if you could share with us your general views on the following two issues: 1. The kind of Computer Science graduate the market needs; in terms of knowledge and skills 2. The kind of courses you would recommend to be critical for this graduate Sent by Muthoni Masinde (Lecturer, School of Computing and Informatics) in consultation with: Christopher Moturi (Deputy Director, School of Computing and Informatics) Tim Waema (Professor, School of Computing and Informatics) Thank you ----------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: [kictanet] The Premier B.Sc. Computer Science Programme in Kenya
by Muthoni Masinde 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

On 11/9/09 1:53 PM, "James Muendo" <timrick(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Muthoni, > > And you also need to engage the students too. I think why developed countries > are beating us despite having a good education system( Kai agreed we do have > one....) is because we were loaded with all manner of stuff to do and very > little time to concentrate on our strongest points. > > My 2 cents...... > Hello James, > Thank you for your point on involving the students. We will do this just that > sometimes the students (especially in year 1 and 2) do not know exactly what > they want. > > Those of us that went through the course and have been out there in the > job-market can easily pin-point what may need change in the course > > Muthoni > > > > > James Muendo > Timsoft Technologies & Solutions Ltd > P.O Box 28016 - 00200 > Nairobi,Kenya. > > Phone: + 254 725 567 508 > gtalk: timrick > Skype: tim.rick > > rickdeesadvantage.blogspot.com > > > > > > From: kictanet-bounces+timrick=gmail.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+timrick=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of > Muthoni Masinde > Sent: 09 November 2009 13:41 > To: timrick(a)gmail.com > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Premier B.Sc. Computer Science Programme in Kenya > > Agosta, > Thank you for the enquiry. I am attaching a 6-page document containing a > brief extract of the curriculum. We also have a 2-page questionnaire for > employers which we have distributed to a few employers. We will be glad to > reach more employers. > > We have not finalised on what kind of forum we will use to disseminate our > final product¹; I will share this with you once we have finalised. > > > Regards, > Muthoni > > > On 11/9/09 9:32 AM, "Agosta Liko" <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Muthoni. > > Could you share the proposed 4 year curriculum so that we can review ... > > Also, please advice on when/how you intend to take views from employers etc > etc > > Will there be a forum ? > > Thanks > > > > > > Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:45:24 +0300 > From: Muthoni Masinde <muthoni(a)uonbi.ac.ke> > To: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > > Cc: moturi <moturi(a)uonbi.ac.ke>, "waema(a)uonbi.ac.ke" > <waema(a)uonbi.ac.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] The Premier B.Sc. Computer Science Programme in > Kenya > Message-ID: <C71CA624.C4A%muthoni(a)uonbi.ac.ke > <mailto:C71CA624.C4A%25muthoni@uonbi.ac.ke> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello everyone, > > Below is a brief description of the first (in Kenya) Bachelor of Science in > Computer Science programme; it is currently under review: > > > MOTIVATIONS AND OBJECTIVES > > The School of Computing & Informatics (formerly Institute of Computer > Science) of the University of Nairobi launched the Bachelor of Science > (Computer Science) programme in 1992. The programme was aimed at meeting > perceived development needs in Kenya, which it has done very well. Indeed, > most of the computer science professionals in industry today have been > developed through this programme. However, with experience in offering this > programme and given changes in national development needs as well as changes > in the fast evolving area of IT, it has become necessary to revise this > programme. > > This programme is part of a set of academic programmes (Masters programmes > in: 1) Computer Science, 2) Applied Computer Science and 3) Information > Systems as well as PhD in Computer Science) at the School that have been > motivated by the following needs at the national level: > > (a) The need for Kenya to harness IT for increased productivity and > effectiveness in all sectors of the economy for national prosperity. > (b) The need for widespread socio-economic awareness (in Kenya) of the > purpose and capabilities of information systems. > (c) The need for Kenya to participate effectively in and reap maximum > benefits from the global information economy. > (d) The need to address the increasing demand for IT education in the world > of work. > > The specific objectives of the Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) > programme are: > (a) To present the theoretical foundations in computer science and to > integrate these theories in a way that gives the learner deep knowledge of > computer science > (b) To enable learners to use the knowledge gained to analyze, design > and implement solutions to a wide range of real-world problems. > (c) To develop learners who are practical and problem solving-oriented > and capable of life-long learning. > (d) To contribute to the production of computer science and > information systems professionals required at the various levels of our > nation?s industrial development and thereby be a partner in the industrial > development of Kenya. > > PROGRAMME REVIEW GUIDELINES > A number of us in the KICTANET list have a stake in this programme; we are > either current/potential employers/parents/guardians of these graduates or > we could be current/past students of this programme or even policy makers in > relevant sectors. We will appreciate if you could share with us your > general views on the following two issues: > > 1. The kind of Computer Science graduate the market needs; in terms of > knowledge and skills > 2. The kind of courses you would recommend to be critical for this graduate > > Sent by Muthoni Masinde (Lecturer, School of Computing and Informatics) in > consultation with: > Christopher Moturi (Deputy Director, School of Computing and Informatics) > Tim Waema (Professor, School of Computing and Informatics) > > > Thank you > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED > > The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all > its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance > from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality > Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. > > University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ----------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner > <http://www.mailscanner.info/> , and is believed t o be clean. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED > > The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all > its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance > from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality > Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. > > University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ----------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner > <http://www.mailscanner.info/> , and is believed t o be clean. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED > > The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all > its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance > from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality > Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. > > University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ----------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner > <http://www.mailscanner.info/> , and is believed t o be clean. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED > > The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all > its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance > from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality > Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. > > University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ----------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI IS ISO CERTIFIED The University of Nairobi is committed to providing quality services to all its clients. The University will monitor and review its quality performance from time to time through an effective implementation of the Quality Management System based on ISO 9001:2008 standard. University of Nairobi Website: http://www.uonbi.ac.ke/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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THE ‘SARE CHUKI- KENYA NI YETU!’ - PEACE CONCERT with EMMANUEL JAL- SUDANESE WAR CHILD
by nancy bosire 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

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Cable issues
by mahmoods21＠gmail.com 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition sabotaging will reduce. We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to this communities. If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all interested providers. With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, Concerned,frustrated Mahmoud Noor Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston Odera) 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives. The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable. Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. Kai Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage. Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. 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Jacaranda Update
by S.Murigi Muraya 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Dear All, The Jacaranda meet went well although it started slow (as would be expected on a Saturday morning). We ended at 2.30pm. Prof Sevilla of Strathmore University was most punctual. It is no surprise that software developers he has taught take him as seriously as he takes them. Two of our three (presenting) software gurus acknowledged his contribution to their lives. He had to leave as early as he came though to attend a funeral. Our priority is to motivate software developers and if E-Govt higher ups do not take them seriously, we would rather have the E-Govt technocrats who were with us today. Ms. Esther Wanjau (Assistant Director / ICT - MoIC) and Martin Kinyua (Kenya ICT Board) did well to open our minds as did Hary Hare, Dorcas Muthoni and others who have their E-Govt info together... We will be sure to have them as speakers or moderators in coming meetings. Conrad had a great presentation as did Esther and Martin. Will forward their PPT's as soon as we get them. for Kenya MSDN Interop

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Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
by Eric Aligula 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential functioning of its economy. These were: 1. Telecommunications 2. Transportation 3. Water supply 4. Oil and gas production 5. Banking and finance 6. Electrical generation 7. Emergency services, and 8. Essential government functions A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a series of specific recommendations for their protection. What does this have to do with the issue of cut cables? At the height of the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical to achieving these goals. It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security for investments so expensively and patiently built. A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. My two cents worth. Kind regards Eric -----Original Message----- From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke] Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 To: Eric Aligula Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach to contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. Frustrated Kai -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Colleagues What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. Kind regards Eric Aligula Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke

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Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Kai, You know that what is happening here, has also happened in Europe and most recently Asia, my sugestion is one of the ways by which they fix it. The bigger issue is our markets are not matured enough for one business to depend on the other for provisioning of services, a precusor to the markets working, is to use regulatory policy means. Eric here > Eric, > > My business depends on those cables (in the duct). It is for me the CORE. > > So who would I trust with outsourcing .. And, if the duct gets cut (and it > will, 10, 20, 50 .. or more times a week), which cable will be restored by > whom ... Where will a manhole be set? How will we fit all the Joint Boxes > .. > > I think I should do a workshop and explain it from a practical point of > view > .. Forget that I work for one company! > > Kai > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh [mailto:emko@internetresearch.com.gh] > Gesendet: Sunday, November 08, 2009 18:14 > An: kai wulff > Cc: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > Betreff: Re: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Kai, > > Congratulations on leading the way.... > > Ducting needs to be seen as part of the infrastructure for development > like roads, gutters etc. I explain this a bit more in my response to the > other Eric. > > Building and or maintenance of ducts can be outsourced to the private > sector, the situation of 5 operators fight for the best seat does not > arrive when you have the third party maintenance entity who is rewarded > for ensuring the ducts are useful. > > Eric here > > >> Eric, >> >> Actually we had fiber first .. >> >> But it is not that easy .. The question with a duct is: Who is doing the >> maintenance? >> >> If a duct gets cut, I would not want a scenario that has 5 operators on >> site >> fighting for the best "seat" in the house to restore! >> >> Rgds >> >> Kai >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im >> Auftrag von emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh >> Gesendet: Sunday, November 08, 2009 17:13 >> An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >> >> Mahmoud, >> >> While i agree with your simple but to be taken serious submission, i beg >> to differ on the substance and form of the underlining principle. >> >> It is the reponsibility of regulatory policy to ensure that >> infrastructure >> is shared and a common conduit is built so that different providers can >> blow their fiber, this is not a market failure situation but an argument >> for direct public policy intervention to ensure a certain market >> situation. In the absence of this, the same government through the >> various >> institutions collect all kinds of levies from the private companies >> knowing very well that they are building next to each other. >> >> It is important for us to ensure not only institutional saparation but >> stakeholder responbilities and outcomes in these discussions. The >> government and regulator must do their work in ensuring that when KDN >> wants to build fiber from Nairobi to Mombasa, they are told, telkom >> already has the ducts in place so go talk to them, pay a fee and blow >> your >> fiber. Blaming KDN for getting the license and building out next to >> Telkom, exonerate unnecessarily the responsibility of those >> institutionalised to do so and belittles the effort to institutionalise. >> >> Thailand just passed a law to make broadband a right, this would create >> the framework for private sector to ensure it happens or government >> would >> intervene to make it happen or they would be breaking the law they made. >> >> Eric here >> >>> >>> Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different >>> providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also >>> inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first >>> timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by >>> competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition >>> sabotaging will reduce. >>> We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable >>> network >>> to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts >>> on >>> their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their >>> areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the >>> areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to >>> this communities. >>> If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could >>> be >>> building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all >>> interested providers. >>> With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of >>> being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like >>> Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region >>> and >>> in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, >>> >>> Concerned,frustrated >>> >>> Mahmoud Noor >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 >>> To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> >>> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 >>> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) >>> 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) >>> 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston >>> Odera) >>> 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 >>> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> >>> To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >>> Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, >>> negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we >>> attach >>> to >>> contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they >>> do, >>> we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you >>> might >>> only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. >>> >>> Frustrated >>> >>> Kai >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im >>> Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke >>> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 >>> An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >>> >>> Colleagues >>> >>> What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical >>> infrastructure >>> from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other >>> infrastructure >>> that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. >>> The >>> penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the >>> entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Eric Aligula >>> Sent from my BlackBerry? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> >>> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 >>> To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 >>> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> >>> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> >>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >>> Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people >>> doing >>> it we would not know the motives. >>> >>> >>> >>> The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who >>> was >>> not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for >>> a >>> partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants >>> (happens >>> very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). >>> >>> >>> >>> Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the >>> cable. >>> >>> >>> >>> Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not >>> metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kai >>> >>> >>> >>> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im >>> Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage >>> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 >>> An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in >>> disruption >>> of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial >>> sabotage. >>> >>> Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the >>> disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable >>> vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. >>> >>> This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four >>> hours, >>> they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. >>> >>> Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? >>> >>> Jevans >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is >>> intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain >>> confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No >>> confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. >>> If >>> you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all >>> copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify >>> the >>> sender. 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Re: [kictanet] cable issues
by mahmoods21＠gmail.com 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Eric If the regulator cck can formulate and enforce policies definitely things would not have been to the magnitude they are today But as eric aligula puts it in detail we need wholesome and long term regional approach supported with legislation to protect shared infrastructure,but at things stand now our good neighbour Tanzania may be considered a reliable partner to provide international connectivity via fiber. The way forward ? Eric has one of the best suggestions as what the US did in late nineties,we don't have to re invent the wheel. Mahmoud noor Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:36:47 To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 18 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cable issues (emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh) 2. Re: Cable issues (Barrack Otieno) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:12:46 -0000 (GMT) From: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh To: mahmoods21(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <13290.41.206.43.74.1257689566.squirrel(a)mail.internetresearch.com.gh> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Mahmoud, While i agree with your simple but to be taken serious submission, i beg to differ on the substance and form of the underlining principle. It is the reponsibility of regulatory policy to ensure that infrastructure is shared and a common conduit is built so that different providers can blow their fiber, this is not a market failure situation but an argument for direct public policy intervention to ensure a certain market situation. In the absence of this, the same government through the various institutions collect all kinds of levies from the private companies knowing very well that they are building next to each other. It is important for us to ensure not only institutional saparation but stakeholder responbilities and outcomes in these discussions. The government and regulator must do their work in ensuring that when KDN wants to build fiber from Nairobi to Mombasa, they are told, telkom already has the ducts in place so go talk to them, pay a fee and blow your fiber. Blaming KDN for getting the license and building out next to Telkom, exonerate unnecessarily the responsibility of those institutionalised to do so and belittles the effort to institutionalise. Thailand just passed a law to make broadband a right, this would create the framework for private sector to ensure it happens or government would intervene to make it happen or they would be breaking the law they made. Eric here > > Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different > providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also > inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first > timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by > competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition > sabotaging will reduce. > We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network > to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on > their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their > areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the > areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to > this communities. > If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be > building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all > interested providers. > With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of > being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like > Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and > in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, > > Concerned,frustrated > > Mahmoud Noor > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 > To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> > Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) > 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) > 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston Odera) > 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 > From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, > negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach > to > contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, > we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might > only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. > > Frustrated > > Kai > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im > Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Colleagues > > What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure > from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure > that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The > penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the > entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. > > Kind regards > > Eric Aligula > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 > From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@wulff@kdn.co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing > it we would not know the motives. > > > > The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was > not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a > partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens > very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). > > > > Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable. > > > > Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not > metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. > > > > Kai > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im > Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues > > > > > > In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in > disruption > of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial > sabotage. > > Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the > disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable > vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. > > This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, > they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. > > Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? > > Jevans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is > intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If > you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all > copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify > the > sender. 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Awareness is Key On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> wrote: > Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some > wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight > sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential > functioning of its economy. These were: > > 1. Telecommunications > 2. Transportation > 3. Water supply > 4. Oil and gas production > 5. Banking and finance > 6. Electrical generation > 7. Emergency services, and > 8. Essential government functions > > A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in > October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a > series of specific recommendations for their protection. > > What does this have to do with the issue of ?cut cables?? At the height of > the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of > produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a > consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and > developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya > Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will > be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on > the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure > are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent > communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, > reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical > to achieving these goals. > > It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other > sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African > wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying > reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is > the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security > for investments so expensively and patiently built. > > A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be > firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive > intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. > > My two cents worth. > > Kind regards > > Eric > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kai wulff [mailto:kai.wulff@kdn.co.ke <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke>] > Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 > To: Eric Aligula > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues > > It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, > negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach > to > contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, > we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might > only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. > > Frustrated > > Kai > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>] > Im > Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Colleagues > > What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure > from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure > that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The > penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the > entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. > > Kind regards > > Eric Aligula > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… > > -- Barrack O. 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