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Re: [kictanet] THE KENYA COMMUNICATIONS (RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AND FREQUENCY SPECTRUM) REGULATIONS, 2009
by mureithi 12 May '10

12 May '10

Hi badru Your concern on harmonisation is pertinent. It is indeed a cornerstone of eac initiative towards the single market, and eventual political federation . In this regard eac has commisioned studies in the last two years to review and develop a framework for policy and regulatory harmonisation funded by EU. In addition itu is doing a similar activity for SSA with a component of eac. What i think we need to see is the outcome of this effort and better still a process to engage the actors in the ecosystem Cheers ____________ Muriuki Mureithi Summit Strategies Ltd sent from my mobile device ________________ Reply Header ________________ Subject: Re: [kictanet] THE KENYA COMMUNICATIONS (RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AND FREQUENCY SPECTRUM) REGULATIONS, 2009 Author: "Badru Ntege " <ntegeb(a)one2net.co.ug> Date: 11th May 2010 20:17 I was wondering how much work if any has been done in trying to harmonise these regulations within the EA region. If not are there any plans of doing this? Or are there any anticipated benefits of harmonizing or not. -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=one2net.co.ug(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=one2net.co.ug@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:18 PM To: ntegeb(a)one2net.co.ug Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] THE KENYA COMMUNICATIONS (RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AND FREQUENCY SPECTRUM) REGULATIONS, 2009 Muriuki, I shall send them to you. They were gazzeted in December. Ndemo. > Listers > > > > Who would know and confirm if the above regulations were gazetted and > how I can get a pdf copy > > > > Kind regards > > > > Muriuki Mureithi > > > > ---------------------------------- > > Summit Strategies Ltd > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: ntegeb(a)one2net.co.ug Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ntegeb%40one2net.co.ug _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mureithi%40summitstrat…

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Orange Now Wants GoK to Pay It US$385m, the Price it Paid for Telkom Kenya
by Shem Ochuodho 11 May '10

11 May '10

Privatization of Telecom Services is Africa is litred with many failures, and sometimes, horror stories. In Tanzania, Celtel pulled out of TTCL after acquring a substantial stake (30%?). In Rwanda, Rwandatel had first to be re-possessed before finally being re-privatized - after initial investor failed to bring in the promised technology and capital. In Zambia, I understand (yet to confirm) that the 'strategic partner' even cannibalized vital elements of the core network already in place. I have always had reservation on privatization of strategic infrastructure state corporations, as I did with Telkom Kenya. While Ghana Telecom attracted US$ 900 million for 70% stake (itself a matter contested by the then opposition - now Govt), TKL attracted a paltry US$ 300 million for 51%! With simple Arithmetic, one should see why TKL ought to have fetched better - assuming they were at per with GhanaTel. Intuitively, TKL should have been a superioir enterprise! Sadly, now Orange even wants GoK to refund $385m; if that was to happen, essentially TKL would have been sold for nothing - yes, absolutely ZERO! Yet what did we see for it: the sending home of 19,000 strong workforce with 'death-shakes' (not hand-shakes)! What is going on here? Read further:- http://www.nation.co.ke/magazines/smartcompany/Lights%20dim%20on%20listing%…. Warm rgrds, Shem Shem J. Ochuodho, MSc (Eng), PhD, LLD (Hon) Senior Advisor Ministry of Telecom & Postal Services Government of Southern Sudan (GoSS), Juba Kenya Community Abroad (KCA) 2007 Excellence Award Winner AfricaOnline 2005 Industry Pioneer Award Recipient Father of Internet in Kenya (CSK 2000) Cell: +249-955-021-040/+256-477-232025/+254-734-137371 Skype: shem.ochuodho

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Proposed New Constitution of Kenya on your mobile phone in English and Kiswahili
by Joe Murithi Njeru 11 May '10

11 May '10

Hello All, http://katiba.mobi allows Kenyans to read the Proposed Constitution of Kenya on their mobile phones in English and Kiswahili. Please distribute to all so we can make an informed decision come the Referendum. -- Regards, Joe Murithi Njeru http://blog.zilojo.com

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Fw: Globe & Mail Africa Special
by Matunda Nyanchama 11 May '10

11 May '10

A Canadian newpaper, Globe & Mail, looks at Africa's potential ahead of the upcoming G8 Summit in Canada. Enjoy! ________________________________ From: "Louis March" <kingtut(a)sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:06:38 -0400 To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;><Invalid address> Subject: Globe & Mail Africa Special Hello ACHA members and supporters, The Globe and Mail newspaper ran a special issue on Africa today, Monday, May 10th. It features a wide and diverse series of articles about the continent....its problems, opportunities, possibilities, future outlook, amongst many other perspectives. I tried collecting copies along my travels today and there was not much left in the stores. Fortunately, you can view the special issue on internet at the following link. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/g8-g20/africa/ I understand that the G&M will continue to feature articles on Africa, up to the G8/G20 meetings in Toronto in late June. Keep an eye out for these articles. One ACHA parent and supporter took a look and described today's G&M issue as being very 'comprehensive'. A professor from the University of Toronto told me that 'until Africans in the diaspora realize that Africa is their true homeland and then commit to significant investment and emigration....Africa will continue to be held ransom by post-colonial wickedness, capitalistic exploitation and human suffering'. Fighting words that carry plenty clout and insight. Anyways.....try and get a copy of todays Globe and Mail and if not possible....feast on the many articles and perspectives, available in this link: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/g8-g20/africa/ 'However far a stream flows, it never forgets its source' ---- Drumbeats of Black Africa - A Collection of African Proverbs Respectfully, Louis March ACHA - Communications www.achaonline.org

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THE KENYA COMMUNICATIONS (RADIO COMMUNICATIONS AND FREQUENCY SPECTRUM) REGULATIONS, 2009
by muriuki mureithi 11 May '10

11 May '10

Listers Who would know and confirm if the above regulations were gazetted and how I can get a pdf copy Kind regards Muriuki Mureithi ---------------------------------- Summit Strategies Ltd

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Stop the bus, initiate youth Centres
by robert yawe 10 May '10

10 May '10

Hi, It is interesting how the government can hoodwink us, I thanked the minister of education on the issue of the ICT buses now I see that the project has been baptised to Youth Centres that are supposed to incorporate a cyber with 15 computers, a VST centre, leisure centre and indoor games all at the staggering cost of 17 million each. It is claimed that the initiative is a joint effort between the ministry of youth affairs and the CDF, as of the reporting the ministry had already set up 5 centres in Central Province. You definitely cannot control a government, it does what it wants when it wants, I hope some of this issues have been covered in the new constitution. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Call for Proposals: Commissioned Papers on ICTs, Climate Change and Development
by alice＠apc.org 08 May '10

08 May '10

** Please forward to relevant colleagues ** This is a call for proposals for the writing of commissioned papers on the topic of ICTs, climate change and development. Proposals should be sent by 25 May 2010. BACKGROUND Recognising both the growing impact of climate change in developing countries and the growing role of ICTs, Canada's International Development Research Centre is funding a two-year project on ICTs, climate change and development (see www.niccd.org) The project is co-ordinated by the University of Manchester's Centre for Development Informatics. As part of the project, six thematic papers will be commissioned and written during 2010 on various aspects of this topic. The papers should be 6,000-10,000 words in length, in English, and aimed at a "reflective practitioner" audience by summarising current evidence and then producing best practice strategic recommendations. We are looking for "generic" papers that draw evidence from, and relate to, all developing countries; rather than individual region, country or project case write-ups. Primary research is not expected. The papers should build on the Scoping Study produced recently as part of the project - http://www.niccd.org/resources.htm - which reviews current literature on ICTs, climate change and development (ICCD). Section 4 of this document identifies six ICCD thematic areas - mitigation, monitoring, adaptation, strategy, disaster management/response, and ICT impacts and issues. We would be happy to receive proposals against these thematic areas but we are also happy to receive proposals suggesting alternative ICCD themes and alternative ways of conceptualising the field. PROCESS / TIMESCALE We require proposals to be sent electronically by 25 May 2010, and aim to confirm accepted proposals by mid-June. First drafts of the papers will be due by the end of September 2010. Final drafts will be due by the end of November. One author per paper will be invited (and funded) to attend a discussion and presentation workshop on ICCD to be held in London in mid-December. The finalised copy of the paper will be made available online and disseminated via the project network. It is also our intention to publish the papers as part of a book to be produced at the end of the project in 2011, and to produce a strategy brief summarising the paper. PAYMENT Authors will be contracted by the University of Manchester to produce a draft version of the thematic paper, followed by a finalised version that acceptably meets quality requirements following draft review comments. We will also seek authors' input to revision for the proposed book and to summarisation for strategy brief production. A payment of £1,200 will be made on acceptance of the draft paper, and a further payment of £2,400 on acceptance of the finalised paper. PROPOSAL Proposals should be sent to: niccd.project(a)googlemail.com by 25 May 2010. They should consist of the following: a) Title of proposed paper, and author(s) b) Outline structure of paper including section and sub-section headings c) 300-500 word executive summary of paper's rationale, focus and content d) Two-page CV for each proposed author focusing particularly on past publication and contract research experience in ICCD or related areas You are welcome to contact us in advance of the deadline if you have any queries. This call can be found at: http://www.niccd.org/themecall.htm Richard Heeks & Angelica Ospina Climate Change, Innovation and ICTs Research Project

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Fwd: *Meeting Reminder* Skunkworks Meeting, 11th May, 2010, Paul Kukubo, Talking Business in IT
by Phares Kariuki 08 May '10

08 May '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM Subject: *Meeting Reminder* Skunkworks Meeting, 11th May, 2010, Paul Kukubo, Talking Business in IT To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Hi, A reminder, Paul Kukubo, the CEO of the Kenya ICT Board, will be the main speaker at the Skunkworks meeting on Tuesday the 11th of May 2010. Entrance as always is free, meeting starts at 6pm, Teleposta Tower's 4th Floor. MMU. Thanks to Paul Kukubo for availing the time to speak to us and to the Multimedia University, who, as always, have been more than gracious hosts. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?
by Solomon Mburu Kamau 08 May '10

08 May '10

This is great Angela. I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying foul. On 06/05/2010, Carole K <mhariricarole(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed about > this new "unfair" regulation. > > CK > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo < > anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations. >> >> Regards, >> >> logo2 >> >> >> >> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo >> >> Head of Corporate Communications >> >> Landline: + 254 20 3232011 >> >> Orange Fixed Plus : +254 20 2454233 >> >> Orange Mobile: +254 772 548 066 >> >> Email : anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke >> >> cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net >> [mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of >> bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM >> To: Andrea Bohnstedt >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs >> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? >> >> Will send it tomorrow. >> >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of your >> > colleagues >> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit nicer >> on >> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper copies. >> > >> > Thanks, Andrea >> > >> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> >> the drama continues, >> >> >> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and Zain >> support >> >> the >> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's complaint. All >> these >> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they are >> >> arguing >> >> about! >> >> >> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at the >> >> Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo? Assuming I leave in >> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and pickup >> some >> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? >> >> >> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your >> eGovernment >> >> stories? >> >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? >> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM >> >> >> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily Nation. They >> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have searched >> >> www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed. >> >> >> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can plse >> >> update. >> >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan >> et.or.ke> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> >> This message was sent to: >> >> jwalu(a)yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> >> This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40 >> ratio-magazine.com<http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andrea Bohnstedt >> > Publisher >> > +254 720 960 322 >> > www.ratio-magazine.com >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------- >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> > believed to be clean. >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > "easy access to the world" >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co. >> ke >> > >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ke-internetusers mailing list >> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net >> http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers >> >> >> ##################################################################################### >> Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal's comprehensive email content security >> solution. >> Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com >> >> ##################################################################################### >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ke-internetusers mailing list >> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net >> http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers >> >> > -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke

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Re: [kictanet] Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom
by emmanuel.khisa＠kadet.co.ke 07 May '10

07 May '10

Wow...Thanks Andrea, goes a long way to show just how defeatist the press releases by the "miserable trio" are. Again...thanks to technology we can dig through the past to inform the future...Quite amusing. Rgds, EK > -------Original Message------- > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> > To: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom > Sent: May 07 '10 14:57 > > Amusing little factoid: > > In 2004, when Celtel acquired Kencell: > 'Kencell, with about 1.2 million subscribers, has recently lost market > share to rival Safaricom, a joint venture of Kenya's state-owned Telkom > Kenya and Britain's Vodafone. Safaricom's subscribers have grown to > 1.8 million, increasing its share to 60% from about 50%. > > So Celtel/Zain managed to work their way down from 50% to 14% or so over > the past six years. Must have been quite a slippery playing field. > > ([LINK: > http://www.regulateonline.org/2003/intelecon/2004/May/A-Kenya-040525.htm] > http://www.regulateonline.org/2003/intelecon/2004/May/A-Kenya-040525.htm) > > > On 7 May 2010 17:38, Walubengo J <[LINK: mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com] > jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > MM, > > this Kwame guy is an interesting read!. One amusing message I picked says > that the regulator should be protecting consumers - not competitors ;-) > > ..and from the "streets" some analyst said that Safcom may have exploited > its dominance position; but that was in the beginning (ref: interconnection > tariff wars with Kencell 6-8yrs ago). Currently, it will be a tall order to > get evidence of the yet to be defined "exploiting" dominance postion" > > walu. > > --- On FRI, 5/7/10, MURIUKI MUREITHI _<[LINK: > MAILTO:MUREITHI@SUMMITSTRATEGIES.CO.KE] > MUREITHI(a)SUMMITSTRATEGIES.CO.KE>_ wrote: > > From: muriuki mureithi <[LINK: mailto:mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke] > mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK > vs Safaricom > To: [LINK: mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com] jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <[LINK: > mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke] kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, > "'ke-users'" <[LINK: mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net] > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 3:32 PM > > > Kui > > For� a local context � from an economic perspective , read the attached > > > Regards > > Muriuki Mureithi > > � > > > FROM: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=[LINK: http://summitstrategies.co.ke] > summitstrategies.co.ke@[LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke] > lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[LINK: mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bmureithi] > kictanet-bounces+mureithi=[LINK: http://summitstrategies.co.ke] > summitstrategies.co.ke@[LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke] > lists.kictanet.or.ke] ON BEHALF OF John Kariuki > SENT: 07 May 2010 08:09 > TO: [LINK: mailto:mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke] > mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke > CC: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users > SUBJECT: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - > CCK vs Safaricom > > � > > > Kui, > > For some background information� on Competition, Dominance,etc you could > check on the following information resources which should be available > on-line: > > 1.Oftel, January 2000- The application of the Competition Act in > Telecommunications Sector. > > 2. INTUG - Anti-Competitive Conduct and Competition Policy in > Telecommunications,ITU,Geneva 22 Nov.2002 > > [LINK: http://3.EU] 3.EU Directive 2002/19/EC 0f 7/3/2002 (Access > Directive) > > 4. European Court of Justice in " United Brands v. Commission(1978) ECR. > 207 > > 5.Telecommunication Regulation Handbook(Module 5 - Competition Policy) by > INFODEV, > > > Good� Luck, > > John Kariuki > > --- On THU, 6/5/10, MARIE-ANNE KINYANJUI _<[LINK: > MAILTO:MKINYANJUI@NATION.CO.KE] MKINYANJUI(a)NATION.CO.KE>_ wrote: > > > From: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <[LINK: mailto:mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke] > mkinyanjui(a)nation.co.ke> > Subject: [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom > To: "McTim" <[LINK: mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com] dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[LINK: > mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke] kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, > "ke-users" <[LINK: mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net] > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Thursday, 6 May, 2010, 8:47 > > > Is there anyone on the list with a firm grasp of the industry (and who is > not directly involved :-) who is wiling to offer their objective views on > this subject for publication in Business Daily? > 400-600 words please. > > Thanks. > > Kui Kinyanjui > Business Daily > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=nation.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[LINK: mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bmkinyanjui] > kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=nation.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf > Of McTim > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:15 AM > To: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users; Angela Nganga- Mumo > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs > Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau > <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This is great Angela. > > I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying > foul. > > > Let's re-examine our assumptions of who the "Big Boy" in the Kenyan > Telecommunications market is. > > The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Telkom.Orange (and may in > future own a majority share).� When Orange makes a profit, so do its > owners. > > The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Safaricom.� When SafCom > makes a profit, so do its owners. > > The GoK collects a tremendous amount of VAT and other taxes from the > telecoms market players. > > The GoK collects a tremendous amount of license fees and frequencies > fees from the telecoms market players. > > The GoK sets policy via the CCK and the Ministry. > > So from my POV, the GoK is the BIG BOY, it seems to me that this is > the "elephant in the room" that no one is talking about. > > In any case on this specific regulation, I applaud the intent of > creating a level playing field.� However, I see no monetary "teeth" or > enforcement measures (read fines) in this single doc (I have yet to > read the others). > > My main objection is the 25% rule.� My reading of this is that there > MUST always be at least one dominant provider.� Let me use a poker > game analogy to make my point.� Before the first hand is dealt, all > players will have an equal amount of chips.� After the first hand (and > subsequent hands) there will (most likely) be a "chip leader" and a > "short stack".� It is not likely that there will ever be equilibrium > in the game (or in the telecoms market). > > I would suggest that this clause is not helpful, at least at the 25% > value at which the trigger is now set. > > No wonder Safaricom is complaining. > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."� Jon Postel > > > > > > On 06/05/2010, Carole K <mhariricarole(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed > about > >> this new "unfair" regulation. > >> > >> CK > >> > >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo < > >> anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>>� logo2 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo > >>> > >>> Head of Corporate Communications > >>> > >>> Landline:� � � � � � � � � � � + 254 20 3232011 > >>> > >>> Orange Fixed Plus :� � � � � +254 20 2454233 > >>> > >>> Orange Mobile:� � � � � � � � � +254 772 548 066 > >>> > >>> Email :� � � � � � � � � � � > � � � anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke > >>> > >>>� cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0 > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net > >>> [mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of > >>> bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM > >>> To: Andrea Bohnstedt > >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users > >>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs > >>> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > >>> > >>> Will send it tomorrow. > >>> > >>> > >>> Ndemo. > >>> > >>> > >>> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of > your > >>> > colleagues > >>> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit > nicer > >>> on > >>> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper > copies. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, Andrea > >>> > > >>> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> the drama continues, > >>> >> > >>> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and > Zain > >>> support > >>> >> the > >>> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's > complaint.� All > >>> these > >>> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they > are > >>> >> arguing > >>> >> about! > >>> >> > >>> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at > the > >>> >> Government Printers at a small fee.� Halloo? Assuming I leave in > >>> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and > pickup > >>> some > >>> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? > >>> >> > >>> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your > >>> eGovernment > >>> >> stories? > >>> >> > >>> >> walu. > >>> >> > >>> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? > >>> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >>> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM > >>> >> > >>> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily > Nation.� They > >>> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have > searched > >>> >> [LINK: http://www.cck.go.ke] www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them > but failed. > >>> >> > >>> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can > plse > >>> >> update. > >>> >> > >>> >> walu. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> kictanet mailing list > >>> >> > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<[LINK: > http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan] > http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan > >>> [LINK: http://et.or.ke] et.or.ke> > >>> >> [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> >> > >>> >> This message was sent to: > >>> >> jwalu(a)yahoo.com<[LINK: http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com] > http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> > >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> >> > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> kictanet mailing list > >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> >> [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> >> > >>> >> This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com > >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> >> > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40 > >>> [LINK: http://ratio-magazine.com] ratio-magazine.com<[LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Andrea Bohnstedt > >>> > Publisher > >>> > +254 720 960 322 > >>> > [LINK: http://www.ratio-magazine.com] www.ratio-magazine.com > >>> > > >>> > ---------------------------------------------- > >>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > >>> > believed to be clean. > >>> > --------------------------------------------- > >>> > "easy access to the world" > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > kictanet mailing list > >>> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > > >>> > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > >>> > Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co. > >>> ke > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------- > >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > >>> believed to be clean. > >>> --------------------------------------------- > >>> "easy access to the world" > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> ke-internetusers mailing list > >>> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > >>> [LINK: http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers] > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > >>> > >>> > >>> > ##################################################################################### > >>> Scanned by MailMarshal - 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