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KEnic down
by Ngũgĩ Kĩmani 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

KEnic appears to be down today. Also why is it that traffic through Orange-TKL first goes to Europe before coming back to Nairobi, Kenya? Think KIXP. Are KEnic and Orange-TKL not peering members on KIXP, I would expect them to be pioneer members on KIXP to serve as role models for other organizations. Kind regards, -- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home

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Standing on the shoulders of giants
by Dorcas Muthoni 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Sir Isaac Newton was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, alchemist, inventor and natural philosopher. He is often regarded as the most influential scientist in history and is most famous for discovering the Laws of Gravity. He is quoted as having said “*If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants.*” I have heard many enterprising developers say that they have interest working with Safaricom and other industry leaders to expand their innovations to a wider market. One huge setback facing such developers is when the giant attempts to step on the poor developers by slaming them with “big-boy” revenue-share agreements. Why is revenue share is so inhibitive in our market? Currently if you partner with Safaricom, they will take about 60% of revenues (i stand to be corrected as i have not signed up with them yet). Elsewhere in the world, like in Japan, 70% goes to the developer. Nokia is also helping local developers market their apps globally, Nokia takes 30% and pays out 70% to the developer. I would be happy to hear more from Safaricom on this. How can Safaricom encourage us to test our innovations in this market as you have done so well with M-PESA before exporting it to other countries? Muthoni On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Matunda Nyanchama < mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com> wrote: > > Congratulations are in order for these young girls in the above story<http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Girls%20who%20created%20social%20network%20for…>; > kudos. > > My reading is that there are many such stories and potential successes that > could happen. This was reinforced when I saw presentations at the most > recent AITEC event in Nairobi. We just need the right environment and our > tech sector will take off to even higher heights than the present trend > suggests. > > Couple of things that could help: > > - Protection of Intellectual Property: I marveled at the ease with > which those at the conference shared their creations and even creations that > were on the drawing board! Question: how do they know who the prying eyes > are in the public event? And prying eyes with deeper pockets and better > knowledge of the business of IT? > - Risk Capital: Silicon Valley wouldn't have been without risk capital? > RIM (that produces the blackberry), one of the most successful Canadian tech > creations, would not have happened without risk capital. For the longest > time, the latter depended on government grants, which allowed them to go > thru' teething stages! In Kenya, we may not have the kind money Canada has > thrown into R&D in form of grants. However, we can have a variation of this. > One possibility I have shared with friends relates to incentives, i.e. tax > credits, R&D Levy Fund from which companies can get back some of the money > invested in R&D, and even some form of "insurance" where risk capital would > be compensated at a given % should a venture not materialize! > - Active scouting of ideas for development in science fairs, tech > conferences, etc and investing in those that offer promise. > > Ukiona vyalea vimeundua or words to that effect from the wisdom of the > old.Development cannot be left to chance. It reminds of a science project we > did in high school: powering a radio using stored energy in a wind up > spring! We got good marks; and off we went later to university, forgot about > it and lo! years later, someone was selling wind up radios in rural Africa! > > Shukrani. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matunda Nyanchama, mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com > Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > * > “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then > you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have > an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” > * - George Bernard Shaw > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain > confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). > Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and > strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the > message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: dmuthoni(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > -- Muthoni My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------- Mahatma Gandhi once said:- First they ignore you, Then they laugh at you, Then they fight you, AND THEN YOU WIN!!!

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by ALEX OWITI 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

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Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
by Agosta Liko 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Eugene. Point taken. Lakini they are usually on facebook, twitter etc etc. :) On 1/13/11, Eugene Lidede (Synergy) <eugene(a)synergy.co.ke> wrote: > Agosta, > >> All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't >> see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that. > >> If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :) > > I have never received any of these invites sent to *All people*, seems I am > *literally* a donkey, Oh God! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Agosta Liko > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:02 PM > To: Eugene Lidede > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants > > Crystal. > > All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't > see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that. > > If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :) > > On 1/13/11, Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org> wrote: >> Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular > emphasis >> on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth KNOW >> when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized and >> the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist >> undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such >> organizations to encourage increased participation? >> >> Crystal >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said..to transform >>> Africa.we need leaders who "hate money"!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Your point very well taken! >>> >>> >>> >>> Edith >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: >>> kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@ >>> lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM >>> *To:* Edith Adera >>> >>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need >>> to >>> be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame > of >>> Zuckerberg >>> without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network to >>> better appreciate what it took to create facebook. >>> >>> >>> >>> To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and >>> enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the expected >>> financial gain. When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the >>> streets of *Porto Alegre **he was not thinking of the billions he will >>> earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the sport.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop, > not >>> imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook > then >>> not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a path >>> to >>> your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then we >>> might as well forget about development.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with > no >>> return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws >>> of >>> Kenya. When they came to me what they needed was computers, office space >>> and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is > something >>> that money can not buy. * >>> >>> >>> >>> For the icing on the cake, there is another developer who currently runs >>> the site www.live.mystocks.co.ke which is the leading stock market >>> information portal developed the initial site www.mystocks.co.ke from the >>> challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers in >>> Kenya. Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money, >>> partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants >>> shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service > provider >>> will soon be blazing a bath to the door. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a >>> never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders of >>> the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one wrong >>> move by the giant and all will be over.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Regards* >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Yawe >>> KAY System Technologies Ltd >>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >>> Kenya >>> >>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> *To:* robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> *Sent:* Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03 >>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of >>> giants >>> >>> The problem is not having a framework. Watch Social Network, how >>> Zuckerberg created facebook. On his own, he could not have gone far. We >>> need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be >>> honest >>> to one another. We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities >>> is >>> where you come from. We mus subordinate our individual interest and > pride >>> for the greater benefits that change society. >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerryR >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> >>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:53:16 >>> To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.u > k >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafric > a.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni >> Executive Director >> Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development >> crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org >> http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ >> >> Intersat Africa, Ltd >> Rural Internet Kiosks >> Project Coordinator >> crystal.kigoni(a)intersat.ae >> >> Twitter: VOA_Crystal >> Skype: crystal.naliaka >> Facebook group: Voices of Africa >> >> "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: eugene(a)synergy.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eugene%40synergy.co.ke > > > -- Sent from my mobile device

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Application to join the Kictanet Mailing List
by Peter Ojiambo 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Please add Mr. Julius Mwale to the the KictaNET mailing list. His particulars are as follows: Julius Mwale President and CEO SBA Technologies Inc. 445 Park Avenue 9 & 10th Floor New York, NY 10022 Direct line:1-800-583-9391 Ext. 3214 Fax:1- 917-322-2105 Cellular: 1-347-329-5262 *Julius Mwale, President and head of Strategy-SBA Technologies from 2003-present* A highly successful entrepreneurial, corporate, financial and technology business leader with a successful career and extensive experience built over a period of more than 16 years in technology, investment and philanthropic leadership. Mr. Mwale through his affiliates has pioneered leading edge disruptive innovative technology solutions; pioneered dynamic and cutting edge development in Africa through leading private equity affiliates, and been an advisor to various companies and governments around the world through an umbrella of philanthropic and public policy organizations . Mr. Mwale has interests in a range of hedge funds, private equity funds and bank holding companies. Mr. Mwale also has interests in technology firms in Africa, USA and Asia. In the field of philanthropy, Mr. Mwale runs an umbrella of organizations that work in 53 African countries shaping public policy to promote democratic governance,the rule of law, education, public health, and independent media, human rights, and economic, legal, and social reform. Thanks Peter

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Fwd: NEWS RELEASE: Major Websites Commit to 24-Hour Test Flight for IPv6
by Michuki Mwangi 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

-------- Original Message -------- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:35:48 -0500 From: Leslie Daigle <daigle(a)isoc.org> To: chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org * * Hi, FYI -- drawing your attention to an announcement we've just made of a major event we're coordinating for June this year. I'm quite pleased that the major content providers of the world are stepping up to do a visible test drive of IPv6, and excited that we have the opportunity to coordinate the activity. This is a first announcement, and we'll be following up with more detailed presentations at upcoming technical meetings. As the announcement notes, we are looking for more participation, and will be especially happy to get some major non-US content providers signed up to participate. It would be great if you could help us identify willing content provider participants -- sign up is available here: https://www.isoc.org/isoc/contact/index.php?id=25 Leslie. *Major Websites Commit to 24-Hour Test Flight for IPv6* /“World IPv6 Day” to take place on June 8, 2011/ /GENEVA, SWITZERLAND and RESTON, VIRGINIA, USA/**–*12 January 2011* –Facebook, Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) and Yahoo (NASDAQ:YHOO), websites with more than one billion combined visits each day, are joining major content delivery networks Akamai (NASDAQ: AKAM) and Limelight Networks (NASDAQ: LLNW), and the Internet Society, for the first global-scale trial of the new Internet Protocol, IPv6. On June 8, 2011, dubbed “World IPv6 Day,” participants will enable IPv6 on their main services for 24 hours. With IPv4 addresses running out this year, the industry must act quickly to accelerate full IPv6 adoption or risk increased costs and limited functionality online for Internet users everywhere. The companies are coming together to help motivate organizations across the industry—Internet service providers, hardware manufacturers, operating system vendors and other web companies—to prepare their services for the transition. The Internet Society is supporting World IPv6 Day as part of its efforts to accelerate IPv6 deployment. “2011 is a pivotal year in IPv6 deployment, and World IPv6 Day will prove to be an important milestone,” commented Leslie Daigle, the Internet Society’s Chief Internet Technology officer. “By providing an opportunity for the Internet industry to collaborate to test IPv6 readiness we expect to lay the groundwork for large-scale IPv6 adoption and help make IPv6 ready for prime time. The greater the scope of the trial, the more effective it will be for all participants so we wholeheartedly welcome additional participants.” IPv6, the successor to the protocol currently used on the Internet, was designed in the late 1990s but has not seen deployment on a global scale. With IPv4 address space running out, the industry cannot afford to wait much longer. Vint Cerf, Google’s Chief Internet Evangelist and co-inventor of the TCP/IP protocol stack, commented, "In the short history of the Internet, the transition to IPv6 is one of the most important steps we will take together to protect the Internet as we know it. It's as if the Internet was originally designed with a limited number of telephone numbers, and we're soon going to run out." Google has offered a separate IPv6-only version of search on ipv6.google.com <http://ipv6.google.com/>since early 2008, and during World IPv6 Day the company will enable IPv6 for its main websites, including www.google.com <http://www.google.com/>and www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>. Given the diversity of technology that powers the Internet, the global nature of the trial is crucial to identify unforeseen problems. “Participating in World IPv6 Day will allow us to obtain real-life data that we can use to ensure a seamless user experience as we transition to IPv6,” said Adam Bechtel, Vice President for Yahoo’s Infrastructure Group. “We welcome this opportunity to collaborate with the technical community and provide leadership in addressing the scaling challenges facing the Internet.” World IPv6 Day marks a key milestone in enabling more and more computers and smart phones to come online. As more of the world moves online, IPv6 will be critical for the Internet to reach its full potential as a catalyst for growth, innovation and economic prosperity. IPv6 provides over four billion times more addresses than IPv4, which will help connect the billions of people not connected today. Facebook views the rollout of IPv6 as a critically important step to keep the world connected. “As an industry, we're working together to ensure future generations continue to have open and direct access to the Internet as we do today," said Jonathan Heiliger, Vice President of Technical Operations at Facebook. "The number of web-connected devices is exploding, and World IPv6 Day is a crucial step in ensuring they can all communicate." Akamai Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ: AKAM), a leading provider of cloud optimization services, will enable customers to participate in World IPv6 Day. "IPv6 adoption is still in its infancy," said Harald Prokop, Senior Vice President of Engineering at Akamai. "We stand ready to support customers through this important trial, and believe that early planning and testing will ensure a smooth transition to IPv6." To support the transition to IPv6, Akamai customers will be able to seamlessly make their existing websites available via IPv6 without requiring disruptive changes to their origin networking infrastructure. Tom Coffeen, Director of Global Network Architecture for Limelight Networks, said, "As part of our ongoing commitment to IPv6, Limelight Networks today is actively delivering customer content over the world’s first fully IPv6-compliant content delivery service. We are pleased to participate in World IPv6 Day to encourage the adoption of IPv6 across the Internet and to transform address resource challenges into innovation and competitive advantage for our customers." One of the goals of World IPv6 Day is to expose potential issues under controlled conditions and address them as soon as possible. The vast majority of users should be able to access services as usual, but in rare cases, misconfigured or misbehaving network equipment, particularly in home networks, may impair access to participating websites during the trial. Current estimates are that 0.05% of users may experience such problems, but participating organizations will be working together with operating system manufacturers, home router vendors and ISPs to minimize the number of users affected. Participants will also be working together to provide tools to detect problems and offer suggested fixes in advance of the trial. For more information about World IPv6 Day, how to get involved, and links to useful information for users, visit www.internetsociety.org/worldipv6day <http://www.internetsociety.org/worldipv6day>. *About the need for IPv6* IPv4 has approximately four billion IP addresses (the sequence of numbers assigned to each Internet-connected device). The explosion in the number of people, devices and web services on the Internet means that IPv4 is running out of space. IPv6, the next-generation Internet protocol, which provides over four billion times more space, will connect the billions of people not connected today and will help ensure the Internet can continue its current growth rate. *About the Internet Society* The Internet Society is a non-profit organisation founded in 1992 to provide leadership in Internet-related standards, education and policy. It is dedicated to ensuring the open development, evolution and use of the Internet for the benefit of people throughout the world. See www.internetsociety.org <http://www.internetsociety.org/> Leslie Daigle Chief Internet Technology Officer Internet Society daigle(a)isoc.org <mailto:[email protected]>

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Fwd: Re: Re: Zain voice at Kshs 1 per day?
by Francis.Hook＠gmail.com 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

I agree Muriuki - we've reached a watershed point here. At a regional level Airtel have a subscriber base that other operators cannot rival (even those outside Kenya excl the other multi country operators like MTN, Vodacom, Etisalat, etc). In some of their markets they still have healthy ARPU and as #1 operator in those countries thus perhaps can subsidise costs across some borders. Further, their capex model is getting more and more lean, and at a time when even regulators are encouraging sharing of non-core infrastructure and co-location. Airtel has taken this a step further to outsource other infrastructure and services. As much as we try to read the tea leaves, this market will remain in flux for quite a while... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very interesting times > > > > It is a high time that we knew the cost structure for a > > call - all Kenyans whether with a mobile or not are > > stakeholders and while lower tariffs is good for us today , the long > term > > health of the supplier is just as critical > > > > Publishing that cost structure will help us to know just > > how healthy our suppliers are and their long sustainability > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > Muriuki Mureithi > > > > > > > > The best way to predict your future is to... CREATE IT! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] > On > > Behalf Of Francis.Hook(a)gmail.com > > > > Sent: 13 January 2011 15:10 > > > > To: mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke > > > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Zain voice at Kshs 1 per day? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting...I think Kshs 1 per minute for on network calls > > is way better (and profitable to them) than Kshs 10 per night for free > calls > > and texts....more relevant to users needs and likely to help grow the > > subscriber base. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2011 2:58pm, Andrea Bohnstedt > > andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> wrote: > > > > > Here's the text of the Airtel press release: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201101133798/Corporate-Press-Releases/Kenya-P… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 January 2011 14:49, Andrea Bohnstedt > > andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > KES1 per minute, plus a daily subscription of KES1, as far as I > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > On 13 January 2011 14:14, Francis.Hook(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see this on some FB status and discussion groups - is this true? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > > > > > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40rat… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andrea Bohnstedt > > > > > > > > > > Publisher+254 720 960 322 > > > > > > > > > > www.ratio-magazine.com > > > > > > > > > > Find/post East Africa careersFind/post conferences, workshops, > trainings, > > other business events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andrea Bohnstedt > > > > > Publisher+254 720 960 322 > > > > > www.ratio-magazine.com > > > > > Find/post East Africa careersFind/post conferences, workshops, > trainings, > > other business events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Zain voice at Kshs 1 per day?
by Francis.Hook＠gmail.com 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

I see this on some FB status and discussion groups - is this true?

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CORRECTION - Zain voice calls at Kshs 1 per minute (for Kshs 1 per day subscription)
by Francis.Hook＠gmail.com 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

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CORRECTION - Zain voice calls at Kshs 1 per minute (for Kshs 1 per day subscription)
by Francis.Hook＠gmail.com 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

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