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Re: [kictanet] Internet prices in countries without submarine fiber
by toby＠law-democracy.org 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

These prices are not reasonable. In East Timor, which is a tiny very underdeveloped country a long way from major centres and supplied only by satellite you can get 512k from the official supplier for $200. But you can get it from 'informal' suppliers for $50. Toby > Just in case some people might be complaining about their internet prices > in > Kenya! These are the prices in Burundi. > > 128k shared : 128 Usd > 128k dedicated : 375 Usd > 256k shared : 200 Usd > 256k dedicated : 725 Usd > > > Mblayo > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: toby(a)law-democracy.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/toby%40law-democracy.o… > ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Internet prices in countries without submarine fiber
by toby＠law-democracy.org 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

These prices are not reasonable. In East Timor, which is a tiny very underdeveloped country a long way from major centres and supplied only by satellite you can get 512k from the official supplier for $200. But you can get it from 'informal' suppliers for $50. Toby > Just in case some people might be complaining about their internet prices > in > Kenya! These are the prices in Burundi. > > 128k shared : 128 Usd > 128k dedicated : 375 Usd > 256k shared : 200 Usd > 256k dedicated : 725 Usd > > > Mblayo > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: toby(a)law-democracy.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/toby%40law-democracy.o… > ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise
by Linda Muka 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Your feedback is noted and appreciated. Regards, Linda From: Joseph Mucheru [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:56 AM To: Linda Muka Cc: mucheru(a)google.com; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise Since we are on this subject, Could you please include the 3G wireless gateway in your Bonga Points system. This is one item that adds huge convenience. -- Joe Mũcherũ Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Linda Muka <LMuka(a)safaricom.co.ke> wrote: Washington, we refer to your comments on the Safaricom Bonga Points loyalty Program. Thank you for your feedback and continued interest in the Safaricom Bonga Points loyalty program. We would like to take this opportunity to provide some clarity on the Bonga Points Loyalty program. We at Safaricom continuously strive to ensure that the matrix is up to date through quarterly reviews. This has been a conscious decision implemented to ensure that we retain and rekindle interest and excitement in the program. As such, we introduced a new reward dubbed ‚ÄúFree Airtime‚Äù last year, which enables customers to redeem their points for various airtime rewards from as little as 100 points. We have recently concluded and advertised the reviewed merchandise and redemption matrix for the first quarter of 2011, to include new devices and bundle rewards. We request that you dial *126*2# to get a full view of the complete list of available rewards. To make the program more inclusive, we have also reduced the redemption threshold from 100 points to 25 points. Customers can now redeem various Minutes, SMS, MMS and Data bundles from as low as 25 Bonga points. On your request that we include the new IDEOS phone into the matrix, we assure you that we shall take this into consideration as we make our review for the next quarter. We shall share the results of that review with the market. All this is actively done in keeping with our promise to give the best experience to our customers in all facets of our operations. Regards, Linda From: kictanet-bounces+lmuka=safaricom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+lmuka <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Blmuka> =safaricom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:53 PM To: Linda Muka Cc: Skunkworks forum; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Safaricom Bonga Points Merchandise Safaricom has done quite some revisions on their tariffs and data bundles but their Bonga points redemption matrix remains unchanged ever since. I have been hoping (and praying) that they can at least revise the merchandise, given that even some of those they list are not anymore in the market (I may be wrong!) but with prices always depreciating, is it not logical that Safaricom put some revision into this loyalty program?? Can Safaricom also make the point system a little bit realistic when compared to the merchandise?? I know they are not under any obligation but I sure can be motivated to "talk more" within "Niko Na.." with the hope that kupiga mdomo kwangu heunda ikanifaidisha vikubwa:-) Maybe they should include the Huawei IDEOS as one of the merchandise;) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! Note: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricomís Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=954> to read the policy. ________________________________ <http://www.safaricom.co.ke/fileadmin/resources/downloads/SafBanner.gif> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: mucheru(a)google.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com ##################################################################################### NOTE: All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom�s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here to read the policy. #####################################################################################

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Five--tenure of office of Council members )
by toby＠law-democracy.org 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Hi all, I hope you will not mind if I make a few comments on yesterday's discussion before moving on to the topic of today. Sorry to be late again, but I'm sort of in transit (actually, I spent 12 hours in plane yesterday, only to return to my starting point because we could not land at the destination!). The Bill does provide for the appointment of the Chair (section 8(6 or really (7)), but I agree that it would be preferable for the group to appoint its own Chair and this is a common practice. A few comments on the debate about independence, on the one hand, and the role of the judiciary, on the other. I am very sensitive to Lydia's point about capture of these bodies by government and of course the Rwandan Council is a disaster on this point. But to be honest, that was one area where I felt this draft Bill was pretty good. Of course its independence rests heavily on the independence of the judicial bodies and individuals involved, but otherwise, it does have reasonably robust systems, including the ability of anyone, or any group, to nominate and then the shortlisting by the appointing Committee (although I would remove the representatives from the Ministry of Justice and State Law Office from this Committee and replace them with more independent people, probably not from the media, since the other three members are already media representatives). So I see the approach as a bit of a trade-off: perhaps excessive role for the judiciary v. relatively strong guarantees of independence. I note that the role of the JSC is simply to establish the appointing Committee. I'm not sure which other body could be trusted with this. So, my tweaks would be to change the composition of the appointing Committee (which is the most important decision-maker in this process), allow the body to elect its own chair and remove the requirement for the chair to be eligible for appointment as a High Court judge. On today's questions: 1) Grace is right to point out the duplication and to some extent contradiction between sections 7 and 10. Probably they should be integrated. 2) I have already commented on the Chair. I don't see a particular problem with the Chair being reappointed, but there should at least be another election. Best, Toby ___________________________________ Toby Mendel Centre for Law and Democracy toby(a)law-democracy.org Tel: +1 902 431-3688 Fax: +1 902 431-3689 www.law-democracy.org

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Five--tenure of office of Council members )
by Racheal Nakitare 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

Dear All, I support the merger of section 7 and 10 . They lead to the same thing. On tenure of office, the council members term should be limited to two. The chairmanship can also be limited to 2 especially if the council will be mandated to elect it's chair because they can vote him/ her out after the first term and it will provide good continuity since they will still be members of the council. The council should vote by secret ballot. Good weekend Racheal Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:33 PM, ERICK ngaira <erickngaira(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, I agree Section 7 and 10 are more or less a duplication, and should be merged for clarity. In regard to tenure of members , It should only be for a mximun of two terms and a new chair should be elected every term. Election should be by secret ballot by the Council Members. Regards. On 28 January 2011 16:00, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: Listers, There is a duplicate between Article 7 & Article 10 of the Bill. Article 7, provides for the qualification of Chair and other Members of the Council, while Article 10, in a way, provides for the requirements for appointment to the commission. They, as Toby has said, should perhaps be merged. On the question off tenure of the office of Council members, my opinion is they should only be allowed a re-appointment for one morer term to avoid domination and 'over-stays'. Further, the Bill does not provide for the procedures of the election of members apart from the chair. Will they be appointed by the JSC, CJ, KUJ etc? Will the election by proxy, acclamation or secret ballot? I think in line with democratic principles, they should be elected from among the membership sitting at the Council, like what LSK does. To another view, the government reserved a third of positions in public bodies to women. Therefore, does this mean out of the seven members appointed (Article 6), three should be women? If so, just wondering, will the other interested groups - the disabled, marginalized, youth etc - be considered? Nice weekend. On 28/01/2011, toby(a)law-democracy.org <toby(a)law-democracy.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope you will not mind if I make a few comments on yesterday's > discussion before moving on to the topic of today. Sorry to be late again, > but I'm sort of in transit (actually, I spent 12 hours in plane yesterday, > only to return to my starting point because we could not land at the > destination!). > > The Bill does provide for the appointment of the Chair (section 8(6 or > really (7)), but I agree that it would be preferable for the group to > appoint its own Chair and this is a common practice. > > A few comments on the debate about independence, on the one hand, and the > role of the judiciary, on the other. I am very sensitive to Lydia's point > about capture of these bodies by government and of course the Rwandan > Council is a disaster on this point. But to be honest, that was one area > where I felt this draft Bill was pretty good. Of course its independence > rests heavily on the independence of the judicial bodies and individuals > involved, but otherwise, it does have reasonably robust systems, including > the ability of anyone, or any group, to nominate and then the shortlisting > by the appointing Committee (although I would remove the representatives > from the Ministry of Justice and State Law Office from this Committee and > replace them with more independent people, probably not from the media, > since the other three members are already media representatives). So I see > the approach as a bit of a trade-off: perhaps excessive role for the > judiciary v. relatively strong guarantees of independence. I note that the > role of the JSC is simply to establish the appointing Committee. I'm not > sure which other body could be trusted with this. > > So, my tweaks would be to change the composition of the appointing > Committee (which is the most important decision-maker in this process), > allow the body to elect its own chair and remove the requirement for the > chair to be eligible for appointment as a High Court judge. > > On today's questions: > > 1) Grace is right to point out the duplication and to some extent > contradiction between sections 7 and 10. Probably they should be > integrated. > > 2) I have already commented on the Chair. I don't see a particular problem > with the Chair being reappointed, but there should at least be another > election. > > Best, Toby > > > ___________________________________ > Toby Mendel > > Centre for Law and Democracy > toby(a)law-democracy.org > Tel: +1 902 431-3688 > Fax: +1 902 431-3689 > www.law-democracy.org > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com > -- Sent from my mobile device *Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau* ***************************************************** *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!* AND *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous generosity! * http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: erickngaira(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erickngaira%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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Fwd: [Skunkworks] Egypt leaves the Internet
by Barrack Otieno 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Some food for thought as we prepare for the sixth Internet Governance Forum, i wonder why this is so yet Egypt has been a major player in the global Internet Governance Arena. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Christopher Kiagiri <ck(a)google.com> Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM Subject: [Skunkworks] Egypt leaves the Internet To: "skunkworks(a)my.co.ke" <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke> May this never happen in .ke ... http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml Cheers, - Chris _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Four--Appointment of Chair/Procedure for appointment)
by Racheal Nakitare 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Dear All I'm still rural siaya where power challenges persist hence I will be brief. I agree with most of you that the chair of the council must not be a judge and a legal profession because the council duties are not limited to arbitration. The office of the chief Justice is very busy with enough judicial concerns to address and may nit have time for media. I suggest that the members appoint their chair and the ministry be the appointing authority. According to the new constitution, the ministers won't be political appointees so the minister could perform those duties with the interest of industry players better. There is need to assert journalism the profession and recognition as the fourth estate. Racheal Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Lydia Gachungi <Lydia.Gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org> wrote: Dear Listers, To contribute to this debate, let me start by quoting examples of what’s happening with similar media councils in the region in relation to government appointments . According to various International and regional media watchdog groups, a major challenge for the media especially in this region is the temptation by governments to respond to concerns about eg lack of professionalism and respect for ethical standards in the media with punitive legislation. They argue that this is what has in part informed government moves or attempts to pass restrictive media laws, including the establishment of statutory media councils like the current MCK. These Statutory media councils have ended up doing more to stifle free expression and press freedom than to promote professionalism and standards. If we take an example of the Rwanda’s Media High Council, which is also enshrined in the country’s constitution, and which is arguably the region’s most active statutory media council, although its independence is guaranteed both by the Constitution and the law, various media watchdog groups argue that since its members are appointed by the Cabinet from among representatives of different media stakeholders( 2 private media, 1 public media, 1 civil society, 1-private sector and 2 from central government), that the Media High Council tends to focus more on policing the media more than fulfilling its other mandate of promoting and protecting press freedom. Other statutory councils in the region, such as Uganda’s Media Council and Broadcasting Council attract similar charges of lack of independence or distance from the government, which appoints the members. Notably, many governments in the region have been involved in all these appointment and Kenya is not exceptional. The reality is that as long as the governments are involved in appointments, whether it is the chairman of the MCK or the other representative either by the relevant ministry or judiciary, independence can never be guaranteed. In order to address these challenges, there has been various attempts in different countries to create self-regulatory mechanisms in the region. Tanzania provides perhaps the longest-running self-regulation experience – and one from which lessons could be drawn for other countries in this region. Uganda also saw the establishment of a non-statutory regulatory body, the Independence Media Council of Uganda. However, the statutory Media Council and Broadcasting Council are still active and continue to overshadow the self-regulation mechanism. Rwanda also has the Rwanda Ethics Commission, a self-regulatory body that is a sub-committee of the Rwanda Journalists Association. In that case, for the MCK, the issue of who is the chair or appoints the same may not be as critical as whether their decision will be independent or influenced by the interests they represent in the board like many other statutory bodies in the region . The suggestion that more representatives from the media industry be appointed to the board all the more makes sense to also ensure that the MCK actually serves the people it represents. The board members should also elect their chair on revolving basis rather than having too much of government hand in MCK composition and management of its board meetings . That may then guarantee a degree of independence Lydia ERICK ngaira <erickngaira(a)gmail.com> Sent by: kictanet-bounces+lydia.gachungi=unesco.unon.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke 01/27/2011 05:38 PM To Lydia <lydia.gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org> cc kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Four--Appointment of Chair/Procedure for appointment) Dear all I am inclined to believe this was copy paste from the Judicial Service Commission bill,( drafting error) hence the reference to “the Chair of the Commission”. On the other hand, if that is not the case and indeed the drafters intention is to have an advocate as the chair then ,these are my comments . 1.In other jurisdictions , for example , Uganda, Tanzania , Southafrica, etc, - where I believe the drafters were borrowing from , the chair of the council is judge or retired judge, This is mainly because in these jurisdictions it is the Council that hears and determines complaints unlike the MCK. The MCK as constituted by both the 2007 Act and the 2010 Bill creates the Complaints Commission. It is the Commission that hears and determines complaints. The Chairperson of the commission is a person qualified to hold the office of a of the judge of the High Court. Therefore it is not necessary to make the chair of the Council a judge, even if the drafters were contemplating an appeal from the Commission to the Council, as provided for in section 33 of the bill, the Council already has a an advocate as a member and the can sit on the appeals Committee. In view of this, the position of Chairperson should be open to anyone sitting on the Council, and they should be elected by the other Council members. As far as membership to the counci goes, It would be prudent to have each of the professional bodies drawn from those professions listed under Section7(c) among other stakeholders, nominate someone to serve on the Council with a minimum number reserved for media profffesionals. 2. On he JSC being the appointing authority, I believe the idea was to make the MCK independent from the government in the spirit of article 34(5), however this is inconsistent with the provisions of article 172 that outline the mandate of the JSC. To that extent the provision is null and void as provided for in article 2(4) of the Constitution. On 27/01/2011, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > On 27 January 2011 15:32, k.k. ombati <kaykerubo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Firstly,I think its unrealistic to decide that the chairman of the MCK >> must be lawyer and one qualified to be a judge at that.That is too >> exclusive...i think the postion of chairperson should be open to >> anyone sitting on the Council. >> > > I agree. The Chair of MCK should not be a person of the position of a judge > or a lawyer, because, essentially, if we let lawyers and judges be the > chairs of constitutional bodies, the other professionals will feel left > out. This exclusivity should be avoided. > Still on article 7(c), I find it rather 'choosy'. Ten years experience? > Doesn't that lock out other interested groups - the youth to be specific - > from serving in this Council? > > > >> Secondly,the Act has failed to state how the appointment of >> chairperson will be done,will it by election by existing council >> members or nomination or are they to be appointed by the appointing >> authority. >> >> thirdly,to mandate the JSC to appoint members of the MCK is oustide >> the constitutional mandate of the JSC,I would propose that >> professional bodies drawn from those professions listed under >> Section7(c) together with KUJ,Editors Guild and Media Owners >> Association etc...each nominate someone to take up a position in MCK >> with a number of seats,say four,reserved for media professionals only. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Good Morning Listers, >> > >> > >> > >> > Welcome to day four of our debate. >> > >> > >> > >> > Today, we will focus on the appointment of the Chairperson of the Media >> > Council, and procedure for appointment of Council Members. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Appointment of the Chairperson Article 7 (2) >> > >> > The chairperson of the Commission shall be a person who is qualified to >> hold >> > the office of judge of the High Court under the Constitution. >> > >> > >> > >> > Question: Should the Chair of a Media Council be drawn from the legal >> > profession? >> > >> > >> > >> > Article 8 (1) The Chief Justice shall, within fourteen days of the >> > commencement of this Act, and every time vacancies shall arise in the >> > Council, by notice in the gazette declare such vacancies in the Council >> and >> > request for applications. >> > >> > (2) An application under subsection (1) shall be forwarded to the >> Judicial >> > Service Commission within fourteen days…for purposes of considering >> > applications, interviewing and short listing at least three persons >> > qualified for appointment as chairperson and nine persons qualified for >> > appointment as members. >> > >> > >> > >> > Question: >> > >> > >> > >> > a) Article 161 (2) of Kenya’s constitution states that the Chief >> > Justice is the head of the judiciary. Should his duties also extend >> > into >> > the appointing authority for MCK? >> > >> > >> > >> > b) The mandate of the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) as stated >> > in >> > article 172 of Kenya’s Constitution is for the judiciary. Should JSC >> > then >> > extend its mandate to the Council when its mandate is so clearly stated >> in >> > the Constitution? >> > >> > >> > >> > c) What would be the alternative appointing authority? >> > >> > >> > >> > Once again, we would like to hear your comments/views on these critical >> > issues. >> > >> > >> > >> > Rgds >> > >> > Grace >> > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life >> is >> > all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go >> forth >> > and rule the World! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > This message was sent to: kaykerubo(a)gmail.com >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kaykerubo%40gmail.com >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: solo.mburu(a)gmail.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/solo.mburu%40gmail.com >> > > > > -- > *Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau* > > ***************************************************** > *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the > same way to the side of a hill!* > > AND > > *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous > generosity! * > > http://smiley2.wordpress.com > http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: lydia.gachungi(a)unesco.unon.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lydia.gachungi%40unesc… _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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Re: [kictanet] Media council Draft bill 2010 (Day Three--Composition of Council )
by Racheal Nakitare 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

There is need for deliberate emphasis on industry. It is not neccessary to include other professions and if included then five of the seven must belong to the industry. There is also need for clear affirmative action where a third of the seven should be women / men who meet those requirements . Journalism and gender representation is critical. On chapter six of the constitution, the qualities of good leadership are clear. They may not be state officers but should prescribe to leadership and integrity principles. Having distinguished career is relative. Might be hard to measure/ qualify. Thanks Racheal. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers Welcome to day 3 of our discussion of the Media Bill in which will tackle two issues namely Composition of the Council (article 6) and Qualifications of Members (Article 7 (1)). Article 7 (2) on appointment of Chairperson will be discussed tomorrow. Today's debate Article 6 states that the Council shall comprise seven members, appointed in accordance with the provisions of this Act. Article 7 (1) states...A person is qualified for appointment…if such a person (c ) have knowledge and experience of at least 10 years including past or continuing membership to industry or other professional body in matters relating to any of the fields: i) Law ii) Journalism iii) Finance iv) Gender and human rights v) Performing arts; or vi) Advertising. Questions: · Should other professions be considered? · Is gender and human rights relevant in this list considering there is mention of one belonging to a professional body? · And is it necessary to actualize gender balance? If so, how? · Out of the seven council members (article 6), are there some who are critical and must be represented in the Council? (d) Meets the requirements of chapter six of the Constitution Question: Chapter six of the constitution is on leadership and integrity and relates to state officers. Is there an assumption then that the council members will be considered state officers? Is this section necessary? (e) Has had a distinguished career in their respective fields. Question: How workable is this? Your suggestions are highly appreciated. Rgds Grace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World! _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: rachealnakitare(a)yahoo.co.uk Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yaho…

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MP[ESA down?
by Michael Ouma 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Hi: I tried to withdraw Kshs 500 via MPESA from Stema Communications Ltd Tsavo Road @ around 3.30pm today. Then got this message: "Failed. There was a problem sending a confirmation SMS to 966002-Stema Communications Ltd Tsavo Road. Ask them to check the phone and try again." I tried to withdraw again and was sent the same message with my balance indicating that the Ksh 500 plus transaction fees had been deducted with no confirmation SMS being sent to either me or the MPESA agent. How can I recover this? Below is my phone number. Michael Ouma Journalist Kenya Tel:+254-725-537823 "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Overstretched Debate
by John Kieti 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Esteemed Listers, There is need to avoid the risk of the list(s) becoming counterproductive. I think we should avoid over-stretching some of the debates. I am particularly referring to the debate on the MNO price wars touching on Bwana PS and others. Obviously, such overstretched debate has risks of unduly personalizing and politicizing things and ultimately diminishing the relevance of the list. Many legit points have been tabled and relevant government organs seem to have cleared the air in the mainstream media - I think we should move on based on the clarifications Best regards -- My Blog - www.gmeltdown.com ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Keep on doing what you know is right ...

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