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Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Who should Pay for Netflix? - For and Against Neutrality
by McTim 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

FYI, Luigi represents European incumbent telcos as Chair of ETNO : European Telecommunications Network Operators. He was the proponent of the "sender pays" model during the run up to WCIT. In other words, the Internet should be like the telephone billing system. His "free lunch" idea disregards the fact that you already pay for Internet access AND the fact that Netflix already pays for their access. Acknowledging the fact that fiber needs to be deployed to consumer is perhaps the first step … [View More]in reaching agreement. Fiber deployment would certainly be in the public interest and is necessary in building the information Society. Google (and now others) can make profits at gigabit speeds. Luigi clearly doesn't want this as it would eat into his members profit margins (97% in the USA, probably similar in the EU): http://www.technologyreview.com/news/514176/google-fibers-ripple-effect/ In general, there is plenty that the dominant Internet providers can do to provide better deals without much effort, she says. Cable companies like Time Warner Cable and Comcast have the technical capacity to speed up service, and also plenty of room to lower prices, given the estimate from one analyst--Craig Moffet of the Wall Street firm Bernstein Research--that they typically make 97 percent profit margins on Internet services. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)3mice.com> wrote: > Listers > > Apologies for cross posting. > > I find the blog by Reed Hastings pretty interesting especially after his > recent deal with Comcast. > > *Ali Hussein* > > +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will > have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* "Luigi Gambardella" <luigi.gambardella(a)gmail.com> > *Date:* March 22, 2014 at 7:53:10 PM GMT+3 > *To:* "ali(a)3mice.com" <ali(a)3mice.com> > *Subject:* *Who should Pay for Netflix?* > *Reply-To:* luigi.gambardella(a)gmail.com > > > <http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/rnl.aspx/?khc=stztw1a9ij=uxci&=u_w/5c6-:=6b-&x=pp&…> > > <http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/rnl.aspx/?khc=stztw1a9ij=uxci&=u_w/5c6-:=6b-&x=pp&…> Se > non legge correttamente questo messaggio, cliccare qui<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/rnl.aspx/?khc=stztw1a9ij=uxci&=u_w/5c6-:=6b-&x=pp&…> > > *Who should Pay for Netflix? * > > Dear friends, > > I'd like to share with you a great blog post by Jim Cicconi, in response > to Reed Hasting's recent blog. > > I share the view that there is a fundamental misunderstanding in the net > neutrality debate. While sharing the principle of Open Internet, we cannot > accept an interpretation of this principle as "free Internet, free lunch". > > I believe that also in Europe we should avoid implementing any measure > going against innovation, better services and that at the end would > restrict the freedom of the users. > > Luigi Gambardella > > > > *Who should Pay for Netflix? * > > *Posted by: Jim Cicconi > <http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/tr.aspx/?&x=pv&8Ud0h=ro_yvx&x=pv&9c:=z_vxkha=8jjey…> > on March 21, 2014 at 4:08 pm* > > I saw Reed Hasting's blog<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/tr.aspx/?&x=pv&8Ud0h=ro_yvx&x=pv&9c:=z_vxkha=8jjey…> > < > http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/tr.aspx/?&x=pv&8Ud0h=ro_yvx&x=pv&9c:=z_vxkha=8jjey…>> > yesterday from Netflix asserting in rather dramatic fashion (with > diagrams) that ISPs should build facilities (he said provide, but those > facilities have to be built) to accept all of Netflix's content - indeed > all of the content on the Internet - without charge. Failure to do so, > according to Mr. Hastings, was a violation of "strong net neutrality rules" > and bad public policy. I thought it might be helpful to unpack those > assertions so we could get right down to the core of Netflix's rather > radical proposition -- that people who don't subscribe to Netflix should > nonetheless pay for Netflix. Here are some undisputed facts upon which > everyone should agree. > > First, let's all accept the fact that the advent of streaming video is > driving bandwidth consumption by consumers to record levels. Increased > bandwidth consumption and faster broadband networks like our Gigapower<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/tr.aspx/?&x=pv&8Ud0h=ro_yvx&x=pv&9c:=z_vxkha=8jjey…>service in Austin, Texas (and soon Dallas) are requiring all service > providers to drive more fiber into their networks to create the capacity > necessary to deliver those services to consumers, whether the service > providers are delivering a wireless or a wireline product. This phenomenon > was at the heart of our Project VIP<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/tr.aspx/?&x=pv&8Ud0h=ro_yvx&x=pv&9c:=z_vxkha=8jjey…>investment announcement in November 2012 and it is true of companies like > Cogent, Level 3 and CDNs like Netflix as well. > > Second, we should accept that companies must build additional capacity to > handle this traffic. If Netflix was delivering, for example, 10 Terabytes > of data in 2012 and increased demand causes them to deliver 20 Terabytes of > data in 2013, they will have to build, or hire someone to build, the > capacity necessary to handle that increased volume of traffic. That > increase in traffic from Netflix is, by the way, not only the result of a > likely increase in online viewing by existing subscribers, but also due to > an increase in Netflix's customer base (it announced a 33% increase in > subscribers from 2012 to 2013 - good for Netflix). > > Third, if Netflix is delivering that increased volume of traffic to, say, > AT&T, we should accept the fact that AT&T must be ready to build additional > ports and transport capacity to accept the new volume of capacity as a > consequence of Netflix's good business fortune. And I think we can all > accept the fact that business service costs are ultimately borne by > consumers. > > Mr. Hastings blog post then really comes down to which consumers should > pay for the additional bandwidth being delivered to Netflix's customers. > In the current structure, the increased cost of building that capacity is > ultimately borne by Netflix subscribers. It is a cost of doing business > that gets incorporated into Netflix's subscription rate. In Netflix's > view, that's unfair. In its view, those additional costs, caused by > Netflix's increasing subscriber counts and service usage, should be borne > by all broadband subscribers - not just those who sign up for and use > Netflix service. > > When Netflix delivered its movies by mail, the cost of delivery was > included in the price their customer paid. It would've been neither right > nor legal for Netflix to demand a customer's neighbors pay the cost of > delivering his movie. Yet that's effectively what Mr. Hastings is > demanding here, and in rather self-righteous fashion. Netflix may now be > using an Internet connection instead of the Postal Service, but the same > principle applies. If there's a cost of delivering Mr. Hastings's movies > at the quality level he desires - and there is - then it should be borne by > Netflix and recovered in the price of its service. That's how every other > form of commerce works in our country. It's simply not fair for Mr. > Hastings to demand that ISPs provide him with zero delivery costs - at the > high quality he demands - for free. Nor is it fair that other Internet > users, who couldn't care less about Netflix, be forced to subsidize the > high costs and stresses its service places on all broadband networks. > > As we all know, there is no free lunch, and there's also no cost-free > delivery of streaming movies. Someone has to pay that cost. Mr. Hastings' > arrogant proposition is that everyone else should pay but Netflix. That > may be a nice deal if he can get it. But it's not how the Internet, or > telecommunication for that matter, has ever worked. > > http://www.attpublicpolicy.com/ > > * Per cancellarsi cliccare qui | Unsubscribe*<http://feaf.espsrv.com/f/oou.aspx/?&x=pv&8=nt_xr1&x=pv&8:&x=pv&ii=q1&x=pv&8…> > > > [image: MailUp] <http://feaf.espsrv.com/r> Email inviata con MailUp<http://feaf.espsrv.com/r> > <http://feaf.espsrv.com/r> Con MailUp la cancellazione e' sicura<http://feaf.espsrv.com/p> > > > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc(a)orion.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > [View Less]

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Safaricom now abandons plan to purchase yuMobile
by Grace Githaiga 27 Mar '14

27 Mar '14

Safaricom has pulled out of a deal in which it was to acquire the core assets of Essar-owned yuMobile citing delays in getting approvals from the industry regulator. http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Safaricom-now-abandons-plan-to-purchase-yu…

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Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Please save the date May 5-6, 2014 in Cotonou (Benin Republic) - Dates à retenir 5-6 mai 2014 à Cotonou (République du Benin).
by Bob Omondi 26 Mar '14

26 Mar '14

Dear Listers, Just in case you missed this announcement for the ICANN event planned for May 5-6. Regards Bob. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yaovi Atohoun <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Please save the date May 5-6, 2014 in Cotonou (Benin Republic) - Dates à retenir 5-6 mai 2014 à Cotonou (République du Benin). To: AfrICANN list <africann(a)afrinic.net> Dear all, (Français plus bas) A workshop on … [View More]

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Signing ceremony for DotAfrica Domain
by Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 26 Mar '14

26 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everyone, Apologies for cross posting. FYI the signing ceremnony for the dotAfrica has just taken place an hour ago. You can have a look at some of the pictures here https://twitter.com/ekenyanito/status/448775676674703360 - -- Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito. Author| Researcher| Humanitarian| Cellular: (+254)-786-19-19-30/ (+254)-751-804-120 Skype: ekenyanito Website:http://about.me/ekenyanito Twitter: https://twitter.com/… [View More]

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Idlelo6 remote participation
by John Matogo -SU 26 Mar '14

26 Mar '14

Dear colleagues. You can follow the Idlelo6 conference online on YouTube. Search for the Idlelo channel on youtube. You can also follow the ongoings on twitter using the tag #idlelo6 Regards. Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Philip Adar <philip.adar(a)gmail.com> Date: 03/26/2014 10:31 AM (GMT+03:00) To: jmatogo(a)strathmore.edu Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Orange and … [View More]yu exit: Market Failure or Creative Destruction (Capitalism Style)? +1, yes "innovative" will be the solution... On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> wrote: A similar problem arose in the US, but the regulator refused to let AT&T (the leading operator) buy off T-Mobile(the fourth operator). What happened is that T-Mobile got a bit more creative in its offers (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/technology/personaltech/t-mobile-turns-an…) . I also think that Kenya is suffering from the same, especially seeing that we import the C level suite of most telcos to bring in "experienced people." Perhaps, telcos need more of innovative people and less of experienced people - there isn't that much to lose anyway, or is there? On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: Listers Jaindi Kisero's article on the imminent departure (demise?) of two telcos in Kenya make compelling reading. http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/mobile-phone-firm-pullout-market-failu… The article basically explores the possibility that market failure is what we are experiencing in Kenya. According to Wikipedia Market Failure is a concept within economic theory describing when the allocation of goods and services by a free market is not efficient. That is, there exists another conceivable outcome where a market participant may be made better-off without making someone else worse-off. (The outcome is not Pareto optimal.) Market failures can be viewed as scenarios where individuals' pursuit of pure self-interest leads to results that are not efficient – that can be improved upon from the societal point-of-view.[1][2] The first known use of the term by economists was in 1958,[3] but the concept has been traced back to the Victorian philosopher Henry Sidgwick.[4] Market failures are often associated with time-inconsistent preferences,[5] information asymmetries,[6] non-competitive markets,principal–agent problems, externalities,[7] or public goods.[8] The existence of a market failure is often the reason for government intervention in a particular market.[9][10] Economists, especially microeconomists, are often concerned with the causes of market failure and possible means of correction.[11] Such analysis plays an important role in many types of public policy decisions and studies. However, some types of government policy interventions, such as taxes, subsidies, bailouts, wage and price controls, and regulations, including attempts to correct market failure, may also lead to an inefficient allocation of resources, sometimes called government failure.[12] Thus, there is sometimes a choice between imperfect outcomes, i.e. imperfect market outcomes with or without government interventions. But either way, if a market failure exists the outcome is not Pareto efficient. Mainstream neoclassical and Keynesian economists believe that it may be possible for a government to improve the inefficient market outcome, while several heterodox schools of thought disagree with this.[13] While Creative Destruction alludes to free-market economics as a description of processes such as downsizing in order to increase the efficiency and dynamism of a company or economy. The case of Orange and yu in my humble opinion is the stuff of Business School studies at Strathmore and others for years to come. The questions that the country now needs to ask include:- 1. How will the demise of two major multinationals in Kenya going to affect the country's FDI outlook? Kenya is quickly gaining a reputation as a graveyard for MNCs who come here without appreciating the GLOCAL Principle. 2. What are the market dynamics that are going to be unleashed by a a defacto duopoly that now exists? 3. What impact will it have going forward on the attractiveness of Kenya as a destination for tech giants and Startups alike? 4. Is the regulatory environment being optimally executed to protect both investors and consumers alike? 5. Lastly - the more things change the more they remain the same? Seriously. The way this is going I won't be surprised if Airtel also throws in the towel seeing as they haven't turned a profit since their entry into the country. Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/philip.adar%40gmail.c… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards Philip Adar -- Note: All emails sent from Strathmore University are subject to Strathmore’s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.strathmore.edu/aboutus.php?id=184>to read the policy. "Visit our Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/StrathmoreUniversity>Page and Twitter <https://twitter.com/StrathU>Account". [View Less]

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Orange to exit, CS to yank the NOFBI contract from orange
by Ali Hussein 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

It's now clear that Orange will be exiting the East African market by end of the year. In an apparent related development the CS has given Orange notice that the Government intends to cancel the NOFBI contract. This is as it should be. The Government is making the right move yanking this out of a partner who unfortunately through either ineptitude or inability to read the market or both has turned one of Kenya's Crown Jewels into so much confetti.. I'm curious though what next for NOFBI? … [View More]

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Fwd: Announcement: Open Call for Proposals for RV Microgrants 2014
by Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

Apologies for cross posting but I am not sure if you've sen this before, at Global Voices we have a project for Microgrants which might be of interest to some of you. Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito. *Author| Researcher|* *Website:*http://about.me/ekenyanito *Twitter:* https://twitter.com/ekenyanito ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rising Voices <rising(a)globalvoicesonline.org> Date: 13 March 2014 05:10 Subject: Announcement: Open Call for Proposals for RV … [View More]

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by Kariba Moko 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

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Meeting calls for unlimited Internet access
by Grace Githaiga 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

Control of the Internet should be handed from US supervision to a diverse group of stakeholders and not to governments that could limit freedom, a meeting on the web’s future heard on Monday. http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Meeting-calls-for-unlimited--Internet-acce…

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Microsoft Expects to Close Nokia Deal by End of April
by S.M. Muraya 25 Mar '14

25 Mar '14

Note how Asian powers deal with (that is tame) Western multinationals in their societies. http://m.windowsitpro.com/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/microsoft-expects-close-no… Microsoft Expects to Close Nokia Deal by End of April ....Smith didn't specify which regulatory authorities are holding out on the approval, but China is chief among them. In response to worries from Samsung and Google, the country has agreed to more closely analyze the deal, and perhaps ask for concessions or at least promises … [View More]

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