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No Need to regulate IT Practitioners???
by waudo siganga 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

The following story is gripping America today: - A network administrator has locked up a multimillion dollar computer system for San Francisco that handles sensitive data and is refusing to give police the password, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Monday.[1]http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/148427 Some will remember we had a similar situation here in Kenya in Turkwel some years back. Waudo References 1. http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/148427 People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work (Confucius).

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Morgan Stanley casts shadow over Safaricom
by Mike Theuri 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8847&Item… "We are just seeing a constant supply of shares which has really dampened the market price, we suspect there are some foreign investors who are exiting the market in a big way," said a top stockbroker who did not want to be named. Fingers are now pointing to the foreign investors pool that benefited from a special reservation of two billion shares, especially after news emerged that Morgan Stanley Investment Bank, the IPO joint lead transaction advisors who were in charge of setting the IPO price in the international pool and allotting shares to all international applicants took up close to half of the shares that were reserved for foreign investors. <http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8847&Item…>

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 121
by kathae＠cskonline.org 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

I vote for Eng. Rege. Thanks

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

I vote Eng James Rege so that brings his total to 3 and rthe highest so far! FE ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: florence.etta(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 10:41:20 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 2 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 2 5) David Otwoma - 1 6) Fred Murunga - 1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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FW: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Simbo Ntiro - Sad News
by Harry Hare 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

For those who knew Simbo Ntiro...very sad news indeed. Harry From: eThinkTankTz(a)yahoogroups.com [mailto:eThinkTankTz@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sawe Sent: 14 July 2008 13:51 To: ethinktanktz(a)yahoogroups.com; SWOPnet(a)dgroups.org Subject: [www.eThinkTankTz.org] Simbo Ntiro - Sad News Dear colleagues, Today I am dreadfully sorry to have to share tragic information with you. This is that our brother Simbo Ntiro has suffered a terrible car crash in the early hours of Sunday morning (13th July), and that he passed away at the scene, here in Dar es Salaam. We have therefore lost a founding member of our online community and a very energetic participant in national, regional and global efforts in the realm of "ICT for Development". He was to turn only 47 years old next month, and so may have been expected to have plenty more to contribute in many ways. It appears that for some undetermined reason, he lost control of his Honda CRV on Ali Hassan Mwinyi Road, just after passing the small feeder road out of Leader's Club. This caused his car to mount the high pavement and it was stopped by a tree that was hit sideways between the front wheel and the driver's door. We were told that he died instantly of his injuries. I had spent some time with him during the evening before, and he had at the time a very positive mindset brought on by a whole range of issues, one of which was a family get-together due for Sunday afternoon, towards which he had been shopping. And we also discussed a number of forthcoming work-related events which we were preparing jointly. My deepest sympathies go to all among us who knew or interacted with him in any way. Arrangements are being made to set up an online condolence book, so that we may be able to express our sorrow and share our support and memories with his family. I hope to be able to provide you a URL for this before tomorrow. In terms of immediate family, Simbo leaves behind a two children (adolescent and young-adult) who were living with him in Dar, and a wife (their mother) who is due in from Nairobi today. He also has his mother and elder brother who are due in from Kampala. Then he leaves a large extended family with members in Tanzania as well as in Kenya and Uganda. Also grieving for him is a vast network of friends scattered across all four corners of the globe, including this online community. May our Almighty God bless Simbo's soul with eternal peace! 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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by James Kagwe 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hon. Eng. James Rege -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jkagwe=kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of per-erick(a)i360microsystems.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:27 PM To: James Kagwe Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum Dear I propose Eng. James Rege > Hi, > > From the list,I Propose Hon Eng.James Rege. > > Regards, > Njuguna. > > wainaina.mungai(a)gmail.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >From the list, I would vote for either Florence Etta or Eng. James >> Rege, based on previous work. >> >> Further, I would openly vote against Tabitha Seii. >> >> Regards, >> Wainaina >> >> On 7/16/08, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So the current list of proposed facilitators reads as follows: >>> >>> 1) Engineer Kariuki, National Communications Secretariat >>> 2) Florence Etta >>> 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii >>> 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP >>> 5) David Otwoma, National Science Council (did I get that right?) >>> >>> Have I missed any.... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> And humble too >>>> >>>> That's why I propose him >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2008, at 1:26 PM, "David Otwoma" <otwomad(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Joe, >>>>> >>>>> You flatter me. >>>>> >>>>> Our Society (http://www.kenyabposociety.or.ke/) has an able Chair and >>>>> she would best articulate us on such a forum as evolving from here. >>>>> In >>>>> addition to the contemporary positions of chair, secretary and >>>>> treasurer as required by the relevant regulations we also have >>>>> evolved >>>>> special Committees (e.g. Standard & Ethics which I chair and have >>>>> seven members, but more important Training, Marketing, Membership, >>>>> Events....among others). >>>>> >>>>> We also are young, just turned one year and hence would learn more >>>>> from our seniors here who have been in the game for longer times. >>>>> However, we pride ourselves as trail blazers in BPO & CC and are >>>>> having teething issues. But we wont develop crooked teeth, with your >>>>> watchfullness, hopefully. >>>>> >>>>> You flatter me. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Joseph Manthi <jmanthi(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can I suggest the The Chief Science Secretary in the Ministry of >>>>>> Science and >>>>>> Technology David Otwoma who has just successfully chaired the >>>>>> Standards >>>>>> Committee of the BPO discussion? >>>>>> >>>>>> Well travelled, well spoken and with great leadership skills >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your >>>>>>>> proposals >>>>>>>> as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then >>>>>>>> other (or >>>>>>>> yourself) can contribute add/subtract. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian - This is also called 'moving forward'. Thanks for getting >>>>>>> us here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the first agenda could be the facilitation issue before it >>>>>>> gets >>>>>>> out of hand. Dr. Ndemo has already demonstrated 'top of the >>>>>>> pyramid' >>>>>>> leadership by agreeing to host the forum. By extension, maybe we >>>>>>> could all >>>>>>> be happy if we agreed a body mandated to drive policy e.g. National >>>>>>> Communications Secretariat facilitates the session. I am thinking >>>>>>> Dr. >>>>>>> Kulubi...Eng. Kariuki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [My immediate thoughts]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message was sent to: jmanthi(a)gmail.com >>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jmanthi%40gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Joseph Manthi >>>>>> CEO >>>>>> MEO Ltd >>>>>> http://www.meoltd.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>>> >>>>>> This message was sent to: otwomad(a)gmail.com >>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otwomad%40gmail.com >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> David Otwoma, >>>>> Chief Science Secretary, >>>>> National Council for Science and Technology, >>>>> Utalii House 9th Floor, >>>>> Mobile tel: +254 722 141771, >>>>> Office tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, >>>>> P. O. Box 29899 - 00100, Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> email: otwomad(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)ncst.go.ke >>>>> www.ncst.go.ke >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> This message was sent to: blongwe(a)gmail.com >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Munyao Longwe >>> e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com >>> cell: + 254 722 518 744 >>> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com >>> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: per-erick(a)i360microsystems.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/per-erick%40i360mic rosystems.com > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: jkagwe(a)kippra.or.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkagwe%40kippra.or. ke

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Inge Vervloesem 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi, I also vote for Eng. James Rege. Cheers, Inge

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Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi Brian, I would vote for Eng Rege. This would thus bring his tally to 3 and the highest! Cheers, FE ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> To: feanywhere(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 10:41:20 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Facilitators - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum 1) Engineer Kariuki - 1 2) Florence Etta - 2 3) Ambassador Tabitha Seii - 1 4) Hon. Eng. James Rege, MP - 2 5) David Otwoma - 1 6) Fred Murunga - 1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya ICT Sector Stakeholder Public Forum (was Re: Legislation and Discipline & Ethics)
by Florence Etta 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

My dear Brian, May I humbly publicly offer my services to facilitate such a Forum since I am NOT Kenyan I wil not take sides. Besides, I am passionate about developments in this sector and in the continent at large and I love to bring people together to discuss constructiuvely. Trust me. Cheers, Florence Etta Alternative Email:florence.etta@gmail.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Brian Munyao Longwe <brian(a)caret.net> To: feanywhere(a)yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 14 July, 2008 4:39:57 PM Subject: [kictanet] Kenya ICT Sector Stakeholder Public Forum (was Re: Legislation and Discipline & Ethics) Hi all, We are proposing a Public Forum on Thursday 31st of July to be held at a suitable venue in Nairobi. The objective will be to provide all the different ICT stakeholder organisations within Kenya a chance to introduce themselves and their policies to the public. There will also be opportunity to evaluate Kenya's ICT ecosystem, especially with regards to the different entities, their missions, roles and goals. As well as provide organisations such as KEPSA with an opportunity to share their view/vision on how they expect ICT sector input/engagement. Formal announcement will be posted once details have been worked out, but in the meantime please pencil this into your schedules. We can also explore the possibility of an IP stream for the Diaspora... if there is interest in tracking this. Warm regards, Brian On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Bill Kagai wrote: Daktari, I agree with you to some extent. If I were to chronicle the genesis of the problem, some organisations were/are feeling choked by KIF especially in relation to KEPSA. In my opinion, this means that KIF has managed to do many things better than others to get where they are. However, that should not mean that KIF now becomes the blanket representative of the industry in matters pertaining to KEPSA. Other specialised organisations e.g. Skunkworks, CSK, Kictanet etc should have equal opportunity to adress their sector specific concerns with any stakeholder. [Government/Industry/Public]. E.g. If a foreign software house came to Government seeking advice on how to partner with the local industry, why should KIF seize the opportunity when we know that Skunkworks is more adept in those matters?? [Caveat - organisations mentioned for purpose of elaboration only] The crux of the matter is that these new organisations do not come up because of sector specific concerns they wish addressed...service, bandwidth, policy, payment gateways etc but because officials running established organisations have become 'Mugabes' resisting change and growing old [literally] in those positions. You are best placed to provide leadership here by insisting that you will only engage with organisations that run efficient structures with clear mandates from their electorates and I will follow by paying membership in all organisations that I feel will help air my business concerns in the industry. Actually, I will be comfortable dealing with your ministry through my sector organisation instead of all us queueing at your reception. And I will hold my organisation leader responsible and thus create more time for you to engage with others. Waudo::: You know what am talking about. Be brave...wachia vijana usukani. Bill On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: Bill, In my view, such fracases are an indication of the level of activity in our sector. We however must exercise our freedom of speech with responsibility. If nothing was happening, nobody will feel squeezed. We must show the world that inspite of our differences, we are able to remain focused. I wish we spent more energy on diffusion of technoloy. We have limitless opportunities in this sector that we must encourage more foreign equity participation to ensure a flow of technology transfer. This is what the NICs did. Asante. Ndemo. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: brian(a)caret.net Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/brian%40caret.net __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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Agenda Bashing - Kenya ICT Stakeholders Forum
by Brian Longwe 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

Hi all, So let's start off with a few days of throwing around possible agenda areas. This hould give us a sense of what issues have high priority and how much time we need to set aside to deal with them. I would suggest that we have a freestyle discussion - send your proposals as a title with a short paragraph describing the point - then other (or yourself) can contribute add/subtract. Then after a reasonable period we can coalesce these inputs into a single agenda for the meeting and also decide on what format would best suit the dialogue/debate on thiat particular item. e.g. for the different ICT organisations I think a Panel format, where each group gets 15 minutes to "share" - then the audience gets a chance to "interact" - and a session moderator does a wrap up. another thing that I think would be good is to have an "Open Mic" session where for a period of time any participant can air/vent any view for 3 minutes. any other suggestions? Regards, Brian

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