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Fw: [alac] Who owns Gondwanaland's domain?
by alice＠apc.org 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

> Thought this might be of interest. Apologies for cross posting > > > Pierre > > > Who really owns Gondwanaland's domain? > > > By Stephen Bell, Wellington | Thursday, 13 April, 2006 > > > > Exactly who owns a country's internet domain? This was the question put to > delegates attending the ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and > Numbers) conference in Wellington last week. > > A panel of government and internet community delegates heard a number of > scenarios dealing with government involvement with the internet. > > Gondwanaland, a fictitious country, and its domain, was used as a basis > for > discussing the issues around who "owns" a country's domain. > > The first scenario supposed that Gondwanaland domain's manager passed > control of the domain on to his or her cousin. Should they be allowed to > do > so? If not, who should be consulted? > > The government should be consulted, said Frank March, from New Zealand's > Ministry of Economic Development and InternetNZ, if only as a > representative > of the people. With the internet so heavily used today, you have to ask: > "Is > .nz owned by the New Zealand community [or] is it public property?" > > Before allowing the domain to be handed over, ICANN should at least check > some form of public consultation had taken place, says March. > > Malaysia's Communications Commission delegate, Sharil Tarmizi, has a > different view. > > "It's not a matter of whether government should be consulted, but whether > government approval for the change should be sought," he says. The > internet > is a "national resource". > > But, suppose the domain was handed over without government approval, and > the > government subsequently says the new owner should not have it. What then? > New Zealand Domain Name Commissioner, Debbie Monahan, believes > effectiveness > in the job should be the criterion here. > > "The government has no right to take it away from me if I'm doing my job," > she says. But, Tarmizi countered that even if this was so, "there has to > be > some sense of accountability [to government]." > > The situation of .go domain holders who do not live in Gondwanaland > further > complicates matters. They are not beholden to the government, but they > still > have an interest in the domain, says Monahan. > > Suppose then that the government concerned approaches ICANN to get the > domain moved to another party? What then? > > ICANN's Government Advisory Committee says the matter should be dealt with > in accordance with the national law of the country concerned, says Cheryl > Langdon Orr, the delegate from the Internet Society's Australian chapter. > ICANN would not consider itself empowered to make such a move if ownership > was legal. However, the government concerned could step in and make a new > law if it wished. > > Another scenario supposed that a military coup took place in Gondwanaland > and that the ruling general then appointed his cousin "Supreme Head of IT" > and the owner of the .go domain. How should ICANN react to this? > > ICANN should stall and consult the pre-coup holder of the domain to assess > public support for the change, says Canadian domain manager Bernie > Turcotte. > New Zealand's ICANN board member Peter Dengate Thrush pointed out that > delegates were neglecting the legal analysis of domain problems. > > "A country-code, top-level domain is owned by the community, and ownership > is a legal concept," he says. The fact of possession has legal weight and > should work against any irregular transfer of ownership. > > Further scenarios suggested were even wilder. One involved the original > owner having a gun pointed at his head, begging ICANN to allow the domain > to > be transferred to save his life. The consensus was that the transfer > should > go ahead, but that a return to the original owner should be considered > later. > > As a last resort, ICANN can take a domain back and do its own > re-delegation. > But the panel consensus was this should only happen if the rules laid out > in > RFC 1591 were breached. > > Copyright C 2005, IDG Communications New Zealand Limited. Privacy Policy > <http://idg.co.nz/privacy> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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RE: [Kictanet] Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
by Wainaina Mungai 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

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RE: [Kictanet] Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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13 Apr '06

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RE: [Kictanet] Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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13 Apr '06

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Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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13 Apr '06

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Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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RE: [Kictanet] Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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Kenya Information & Communications Bill analysis
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