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Re: [kictanet] cable issues
by mahmoods21＠gmail.com 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Eric If the regulator cck can formulate and enforce policies definitely things would not have been to the magnitude they are today But as eric aligula puts it in detail we need wholesome and long term regional approach supported with legislation to protect shared infrastructure,but at things stand now our good neighbour Tanzania may be considered a reliable partner to provide international connectivity via fiber. The way forward ? Eric has one of the best suggestions as what the US did in late nineties,we don't have to re invent the wheel. Mahmoud noor Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:36:47 To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 18 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cable issues (emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh) 2. Re: Cable issues (Barrack Otieno) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:12:46 -0000 (GMT) From: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh To: mahmoods21(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Message-ID: <13290.41.206.43.74.1257689566.squirrel(a)mail.internetresearch.com.gh> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Mahmoud, While i agree with your simple but to be taken serious submission, i beg to differ on the substance and form of the underlining principle. It is the reponsibility of regulatory policy to ensure that infrastructure is shared and a common conduit is built so that different providers can blow their fiber, this is not a market failure situation but an argument for direct public policy intervention to ensure a certain market situation. In the absence of this, the same government through the various institutions collect all kinds of levies from the private companies knowing very well that they are building next to each other. It is important for us to ensure not only institutional saparation but stakeholder responbilities and outcomes in these discussions. The government and regulator must do their work in ensuring that when KDN wants to build fiber from Nairobi to Mombasa, they are told, telkom already has the ducts in place so go talk to them, pay a fee and blow your fiber. Blaming KDN for getting the license and building out next to Telkom, exonerate unnecessarily the responsibility of those institutionalised to do so and belittles the effort to institutionalise. Thailand just passed a law to make broadband a right, this would create the framework for private sector to ensure it happens or government would intervene to make it happen or they would be breaking the law they made. Eric here > > Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different > providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also > inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first > timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by > competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition > sabotaging will reduce. > We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable network > to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts on > their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their > areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the > areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to > this communities. > If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could be > building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all > interested providers. > With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of > being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like > Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and > in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, > > Concerned,frustrated > > Mahmoud Noor > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 > To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> > Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) > 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) > 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston Odera) > 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 > From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, > negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach > to > contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, > we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might > only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. > > Frustrated > > Kai > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] Im > Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Colleagues > > What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure > from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure > that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The > penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the > entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. > > Kind regards > > Eric Aligula > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 > From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> > To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing > it we would not know the motives. > > > > The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was > not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a > partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens > very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). > > > > Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable. > > > > Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not > metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. > > > > Kai > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] Im > Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues > > > > > > In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in > disruption > of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial > sabotage. > > Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the > disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable > vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. > > This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, > they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. > > Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? > > Jevans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is > intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No > confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If > you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all > copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify > the > sender. 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Awareness is Key On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> wrote: > Just to expand the discourse on the cable issues and place it into some > wider perspective. As far back as 1997, the US Government identified eight > sectors it deemed critical to the national security and the essential > functioning of its economy. These were: > > 1. Telecommunications > 2. Transportation > 3. Water supply > 4. Oil and gas production > 5. Banking and finance > 6. Electrical generation > 7. Emergency services, and > 8. Essential government functions > > A President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection ("PCCIP") in > October 1997, highlighted the topic of critical infrastructures and made a > series of specific recommendations for their protection. > > What does this have to do with the issue of ?cut cables?? At the height of > the post election violence and in some incidents thereafter, the movement of > produce and goods in Kenya became a serious issue. In fact as a > consequence, ALL of the neighbouring countries are actively identifying and > developing alternative access routes for their products and services. Kenya > Vision 2030 is predicated on an export led growth strategy that is and will > be heavily dependent not only on networked transport services, but also on > the fibre optic cable. The investment in transport and ICT infrastructure > are premised on the desire to establish Kenya as the region's preeminent > communications hub. The assurance that Kenya can and will consistent, > reliable and affordable access to these critical infrastructures is critical > to achieving these goals. > > It is thus important that players in the ICT Sector team up with other > sectors to insist on the development of a national, perhaps East African > wide Critical Infrastructure Protection Policy complete with accompanying > reviews and enhancements in the legal and institutional frameworks. It is > the only consistent way through which we shall be able to ensure security > for investments so expensively and patiently built. > > A piecemeal approach will work for a short while and we shall be > firefighting to eternity. The effort should focus on a comprehensive > intervention, while obviously dealing with the issues in the short term. > > My two cents worth. > > Kind regards > > Eric > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kai wulff [mailto:[email protected] <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke>] > Sent: Fri 06/11/2009 22:14 > To: Eric Aligula > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > Subject: AW: [kictanet] Cable issues > > It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, > negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we attach > to > contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they do, > we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might > only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. > > Frustrated > > Kai > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]<kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>] > Im > Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Colleagues > > What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure > from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other infrastructure > that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The > penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the > entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. > > Kind regards > > Eric Aligula > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 > To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… > > -- Barrack O. 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Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
by emko＠internetresearch.com.gh 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

Kai, Congratulations on leading the way.... Ducting needs to be seen as part of the infrastructure for development like roads, gutters etc. I explain this a bit more in my response to the other Eric. Building and or maintenance of ducts can be outsourced to the private sector, the situation of 5 operators fight for the best seat does not arrive when you have the third party maintenance entity who is rewarded for ensuring the ducts are useful. Eric here > Eric, > > Actually we had fiber first .. > > But it is not that easy .. The question with a duct is: Who is doing the > maintenance? > > If a duct gets cut, I would not want a scenario that has 5 operators on > site > fighting for the best "seat" in the house to restore! > > Rgds > > Kai > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] Im > Auftrag von emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > Gesendet: Sunday, November 08, 2009 17:13 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues > > Mahmoud, > > While i agree with your simple but to be taken serious submission, i beg > to differ on the substance and form of the underlining principle. > > It is the reponsibility of regulatory policy to ensure that infrastructure > is shared and a common conduit is built so that different providers can > blow their fiber, this is not a market failure situation but an argument > for direct public policy intervention to ensure a certain market > situation. In the absence of this, the same government through the various > institutions collect all kinds of levies from the private companies > knowing very well that they are building next to each other. > > It is important for us to ensure not only institutional saparation but > stakeholder responbilities and outcomes in these discussions. The > government and regulator must do their work in ensuring that when KDN > wants to build fiber from Nairobi to Mombasa, they are told, telkom > already has the ducts in place so go talk to them, pay a fee and blow your > fiber. Blaming KDN for getting the license and building out next to > Telkom, exonerate unnecessarily the responsibility of those > institutionalised to do so and belittles the effort to institutionalise. > > Thailand just passed a law to make broadband a right, this would create > the framework for private sector to ensure it happens or government would > intervene to make it happen or they would be breaking the law they made. > > Eric here > >> >> Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different >> providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also >> inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first >> timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by >> competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition >> sabotaging will reduce. >> We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable >> network >> to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut impacts >> on >> their lives,ultimately the communities are the best custodians in their >> areas,we should also encourage contractors to use locals in each of the >> areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a sense of ownership to >> this communities. >> If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could >> be >> building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to all >> interested providers. >> With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of >> being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like >> Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and >> in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities, >> >> Concerned,frustrated >> >> Mahmoud Noor >> Sent from my BlackBerry® >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:20:02 >> To: noor<mahmoods21(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 14 >> >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) >> 2. Re: Cable issues (kai wulff) >> 3. CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya) (Preston Odera) >> 4. Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure (Njeri Rionge) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300 >> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> >> To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> >> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >> Message-ID: <484401ca5f15$ab0cdfa0$01269ee0$@[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing, >> negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we >> attach >> to >> contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they >> do, >> we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might >> only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor .. >> >> Frustrated >> >> Kai >> >> >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> [mailto:[email protected]] Im >> Auftrag von jairah(a)kippra.or.ke >> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40 >> An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >> >> Colleagues >> >> What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure >> from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other >> infrastructure >> that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The >> penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the >> entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Eric Aligula >> Sent from my BlackBerry? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jevans Nyabiage <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 >> To: <jairah(a)kippra.or.ke> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: jairah(a)kippra.or.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jairah%40kippra.or.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kai.wulff%40kdn.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300 >> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> >> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage(a)nation.co.ke> >> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues >> Message-ID: <484601ca5f15$ae77f710$0b67e530$@[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people >> doing >> it we would not know the motives. >> >> >> >> The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who >> was >> not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a >> partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants >> (happens >> very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). >> >> >> >> Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the >> cable. >> >> >> >> Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not >> metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. >> >> >> >> Kai >> >> >> >> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> [mailto:[email protected]] Im >> Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage >> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 >> An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues >> >> >> >> >> >> In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in >> disruption >> of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial >> sabotage. >> >> Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the >> disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable >> vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. >> >> This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four >> hours, >> they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. >> >> Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? >> >> Jevans >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is >> intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain >> confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No >> confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. >> If >> you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all >> copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify >> the >> sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, >> distribute, >> print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended >> recipient. >> >> Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author >> and >> do >> not necessarily represent those of the <http://www.nation.co.ke> Nation >> Media Group. >> >> To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit >> http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. >> >>

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Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
by Evans J. Nyagah 08 Nov '09

08 Nov '09

If we were to forget competition and be true patriots, we would ask ourselves how much it costs the users for the lost business, think of a crucial call that cannot go through because of a cable cut, think of hotlines et al? Users can however help us identify the culprits, always see who is first to knock your doors when you have a downtime as a result of cable cut? Does it tell you anything, how did they know, if you listen carefully to the sales pitch, you will be promised a more stable service and at that time you will definitely sign up because of frustration with your otherwise helpless provider whose service is "unreliable". By the way cable vandalism happens even in the most developed world "vandals slash silicon valley fiber optic " sabotage happens in Kenya. Be part of mulika "mwizi" if we are to get rid of this retrogressive behavior that is a big threat to the growth of the ICT industry and the economy at large. Evans From: kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kai wulff Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:17 PM To: Evans J. Nyagah Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people doing it we would not know the motives. The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who was not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants (happens very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal). Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the cable. Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know. Kai Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07 An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in disruption of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial sabotage. Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage. This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four hours, they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined? Jevans DISCLAIMER: The information contained in or accompanying this e-mail is intended for the use of the stated recipient only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the <http://www.nation.co.ke> Nation Media Group. To get all breaking news alerts send the word BREAK to 6667 or visit http://mobile.nation.co.ke to read news on your mobile phone. ##################################################################################### Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal's comprehensive email content security solution. Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com #####################################################################################

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Ignite Experience Center and Lifestyle Brochure
by Njeri Rionge 07 Nov '09

07 Nov '09

Dear ICT Colleagues - In Aid of Managing the Busy Lives of ICT professionals. The Ignite Experience Centre is a tantalizing serene environment that is essential for self actualising, life and executive coaching and personal grooming. The centres core is to create a space where busy executives can take time off to map new strategies, manage transition and work life balance conversations with our trained and experienced coaches and wellness and grooming therapist/specialist. People connect with oneself, are empowered with knowledge that will enrich life, and build networks of like minded people who enjoy fun activities to enhance successful life experiences! Find attached our brochure with details of all you can do once at the centre. Join Us! Email events(a)igniteconsulting.co.ke for your bookings or queries. Please pass on to your friends and family. -- Njeri Rionge (Ms) Founder & Executive Director __________________________________ Tel: +254 20 253 2144, 253 2142 (Orange Fixed Plus) Tel: +254 772 522136 (Orange Mobile) Tel: +254 722 522136 (Safaricom Mobile) URL: www.igniteconsulting.co.ke P. O. Box 15568 Nairobi 00100, Kenya

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CISSP Review Course + Examination ( Nairobi Kenya)
by Preston Odera 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Hi All, For those who have been longing to attend a CISSP review course in Kenya and then do the examination, K-90 is organising with ISC2 to have the review course in Nairobi from 22nd to 26th March 2010 followed by the examination in Nairobi around 10th April 2010. If you are one who has been preparing to do the examination out of Kenya (Dubai/South Africa etc..) then you have a chance to do it in Nairobi by contacting me off the list for more details. ISC2 will offer special rates to those who will attend the review course. Official announcement will be out shortly. Watch out!!! Those interested can contact me offlist. Preston Odera +254 (0)722771478

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Final Reminder: E-Gov Public Forum @ Jacaranda Hotel, Saturday, November 7, 2009
by S.Murigi Muraya 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Dear All, Ms. Esther Wanjau will be joining us tomorrow (Saturday, November 7, 2009) morning at the Jacaranda Hotel. http://egov.comesa.int/en/contacts/24-national-e-government-focal-point-off… Time: 10am to 1pm. She will brief us on how we can get involved in helping Government develop Information and Transactional Systems to benefit all Kenyans. Dr. Joseph Sevilla of Strathmore University and other Technocrats will be with us to add value to our discussions / debate. *To demonstrate that we have Kenyans capable of developing the Information and Transactional systems our government needs: * The e-government discussion will be facilitated by Conrad Akunga, our own Kenyan Microsoft C# (an OPEN programming technology) Most Valuable Professional - Awarded to him by a world wide and world class community of software developers. We will also hear from a Kenyan who is part of a Private Company LOCALLY building a Web System (Service) that various (not just government) organizations subscribe to in some part of the EU. He will be interviewed by another Kenyan guru helping build some HR (System.Web) at the UN in Nairobi. Floor will be open to any queries about how they and their teams go about building these kinds of web systems and services. There will be refreshments sometime between 10am and 1pm. KARIBUNI! ___________________ Please e-mail me to confirm your attendance before tomorrow (Saturday, November 7, 2009). ___________________ http://blogs.msdn.com/interoperability/ *For the more technically inclined / interested, we will show 2 FANTASTIC 'History of Visual Studio' Videos at 9am-10am*

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] [ke-internetusers] Re: ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized?
by Barrack Otieno 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Dr. Ndemo, Permit me to differ with you on this and agree with Waudo's position, such a move would be defeatist, let the market decide what it wants with regard to the Computer Applications, the issue here is about the skills and the market should determine that , Africa as a continent and we as a country are trying to catch up with the developed world and only "freedom" can can bring about innovation, i think governmnet should focus on Infrastructure and the global policy environment. I would like to get the opinion of other policy makers on the same issue. Regards On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Thank you. > > If they report your Open Source clarification clearly, then we may > consider dropping our open source complaint to MCK. > > regards, > > a. > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: > > I will be on KTN in 5 minutes to clarify this. Please watch. > > > > Ndemo > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:05:01 > > To: Zacs<mwatha_zacs(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users< > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > > Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is > Open > > Office recognized? > > > > I have reliable information to the effect that the PS mentioned both > > Open Source ICDL and Proprietary ICDL. Now looking for the actual KTN > > footage to confirm what was actually reported, upon whose > > confirmation, if found skewed reporting as true we shall lodge a > > formal, open complaint against the media house to the Media Council of > > Kenya for misinformation on such a sensitive national subject. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alex > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I seriously believe there is no way ICDL can be a proprietary licence. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> > >> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users > >> <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:19:57 AM > >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is > Open > >> Office recognized? > >> > >> If they only gazette ICDL and leave out OpenICDL > >> http://www.openicdl.org/ we shall go to court to have the Gazette > >> Notice annulled on the basis of its illegality hence illegitimacy. > >> Contemplating such an illegal move would leave sour scars and in any > >> case we no longer have time for niceties play with Microsofties > >> family.. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I sincerely hope this is not the case. It would be very unfortunate if > >>> government forces citizens to take a certain route. > >>> From my small investigation ICDL seems to be a pretty widespread > standard > >>> that is supposed to be vendor neutral and not linked to any particular > >>> software. See this link for some > >>> information. http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108 as > well > >>> as > >>> this one http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119. I hope > >>> this > >>> is what was in mind > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> Other lists > >>> ------------- > >>> Announce: > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ke-internetusers mailing list > >> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > >> http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ke-internetusers mailing list > > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > --------------------------------------------- > > "easy access to the world" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > -- Barrack O. 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4th Annual AfTLD African ccTLD Event 2-7 March 2010, Nairobi Kenya
by alice 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

(Apologies for cross posting) 4th Annual AfTLD African ccTLD Event 2-7 March 2010, Nairobi Kenya The African Top Level Domains Organization (AfTLD), the association of African ccTLDs, announces its 4th Annual African ccTLD 2010 event. The event will be held in Nairobi, Kenya from 2 - 7 March 2010 just before the ICANN 37 Meeting. The event will be generously hosted by the Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC), a member of AfTLD with the support of local sponsors. The Annual General Meeting (AfTLD AGM) which will be held on Sunday, 7 March 2009 will be preceded by a five-day technical training workshop on Initial Registry Operation Course (IROC), an initiative of ICANN/ISOC/NSRC, and introduction to DNSSEC. The theme for the event is “Enhancing Internet Management in Africa”. AfTLD hereby invites interested parties to attend. Among the parties expected to attend are: • ccTLD organizations from Africa and elsewhere • Telecommunications firms • Internet service providers (ISPs) • Governments • ICT agencies • Any other interested persons and firms. The workshop is part of AfTLD’s effort to enhance capacity of ccTLD managers in the Africa region to manage their registries efficiently and in a cost effective manner. Presentations will also be made on registry services and systems to inform ccTLDs in the region on the best systems and services that suits their environment. An update on AfTLD’s research activities with the Regional Top Level Domain Organization (RTLDO) and capacity building efforts will also be made at the annual meeting. More details including registration page, detailed event program, hotel and Venue information will be available on the AfTLD website (www.aftld.org) shortly. For enquiries on sponsorship and other issues please contact Eric Akumiah, AfTLD Administrative Manager, at email address secretariat(a)aftld.org. About AfTLD AfTLD was established in 2002 to act as a focal point for African Country Code Top Level Domain (ccTLD) managers in coordinating, formulating, developing and presenting a unified approach to issues related to the Domain Name System. AfTLD also presents a forum for sharing ideas between the regions Internet community with an aim of promoting the utilization of national country’s Top Level Domains. ------------------ Eric Akumiah AfTLD Administrative Manager, [T/F] : +233-21767466 [M] : +233-243380612, +233-203774281 [E]: eric(a)aftld.org [W]: http://www.aftld.org Skype: ericaftldsec ____________________________________________

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Please Join Us at Jacaranda, Nov 7, 2009, 10am-1pm
by S.Murigi Muraya 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Dear All, There is a meeting at *The Jacaranda Hotel on Saturday, Nov 7, 2009 @ **10am-1pm. * *Attendance: Free!* PS Ndemo will be represented by the Head of IT at the Ministry of Information and Communications. We also expect a notable academic or two to add value to the discussions / debates. We welcome other E-Gov Practitioners / Executives to come and participate in a discussion to educate us on how we get involved in helping Government build Information and Transactional systems to benefit all Kenyans. We will hear from a Kenyan who is part of a Private Company LOCALLY building a Web System (Service) that various (not just government) organizations subscribe to in some part(s) of the EU. He will be interviewed by another Kenyan guru helping build some HR (System.Web) at the UN in Nairobi. Floor will be open to any queries about how they and their teams go about building these kinds of web systems and services. Conrad Akunga, our own Kenyan Microsoft C# (an OPEN Programming Technology) Most Valuable Professional - Awarded to him by a World Wide and World Class Community of Software Developers, Will Facilitate the E-Gov Q & A Session! Some of our more reliable Software (Web) Developers get to find out what our government needs from them and Government gets to find out our software (web) developers need to deliver working Information and Transactional systems for Kenyans. Spread the word to anyone you think may be interested. There will be refreshments sometime between 10am and 1pm. KARIBUNI! ___________________ Please e-mail me AND emmanuel.birech(a)microsoft.com to confirm your attendance - for planning purposes. ___________________ http://blogs.msdn.com/interoperability/ *For the more technically inclined / interested, we will show 2 FANTASTIC 'History of Visual Studio' Videos at 9am-10am* There are 10 parts but we will only show Parts 1 and 2 - which overview the other 8 videos.

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] [ke-internetusers] Re: ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized?
by wesley kirinya 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Seems like Dr.Ndemo clarified that it isn't a case of Kenya getting in bed with M$ (How would those babies look?). It's a case of not-clear reporting by the narrator of the news clip. 8~) --- On Wed, 11/4/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [ke-internetusers] Re: ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized? To: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Cc: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 12:36 PM This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least. regards, a. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: > About ICDL > > http://www.icdlegypt.gov.eg/Inside.aspx > > > Ndemo > > > > >> My Opinion Alex, i have done a lot of Social Work through Project >> Discovery >> (www.projectdiscovery.or.ke) and i have also taught ICDL programs for a >> while, that is my take based on my experiences , let the people decide, i >> think it would pay if we focus on the global picture does that answer ??? >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Gakuru Alex >> <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> ??? >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Barrack Otieno >>> <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Dr. Ndemo, >>> > Permit me to differ with you on this and agree with Waudo's position, >>> such >>> > a move would be defeatist, let the market decide what it wants with >>> regard >>> > to the Computer Applications, the issue here is about the skills and >>> the >>> > market should determine that , Africa as a continent and we as a >>> country >>> > are trying to catch up with the developed world and only "freedom" can >>> can >>> > bring about innovation, i think governmnet should focus on >>> Infrastructure >>> > and the global policy environment. I would like to get the opinion >>> of >>> > other policy makers on the same issue. >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gakuru Alex >>> <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Thank you. >>> >> >>> >> If they report your Open Source clarification clearly, then we may >>> >> consider dropping our open source complaint to MCK. >>> >> >>> >> regards, >>> >> >>> >> a. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: >>> >> > I will be on KTN in 5 minutes to clarify this. Please watch. >>> >> > >>> >> > Ndemo >>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® >>> >> > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- >>> >> > From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> >>> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:05:01 >>> >> > To: Zacs<mwatha_zacs(a)yahoo.com> >>> >> > Cc: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; >>> >> > ke-users<ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be >>> Gazetted: >>> Is >>> >> > Open >>> >> > Office recognized? >>> >> > >>> >> > I have reliable information to the effect that the PS mentioned >>> both >>> >> > Open Source ICDL and Proprietary ICDL. Now looking for the actual >>> KTN >>> >> > footage to confirm what was actually reported, upon whose >>> >> > confirmation, if found skewed reporting as true we shall lodge a >>> >> > formal, open complaint against the media house to the Media Council >>> of >>> >> > Kenya for misinformation on such a sensitive national subject. >>> >> > >>> >> > Regards, >>> >> > >>> >> > Alex >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Zacs <mwatha_zacs(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >> >> I seriously believe there is no way ICDL can be a proprietary >>> licence. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ________________________________ >>> >> >> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists(a)gmail.com> >>> >> >> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke>; ke-users >>> >> >> <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> >>> >> >> Sent: Wed, November 4, 2009 12:19:57 AM >>> >> >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: >>> Is >>> >> >> Open >>> >> >> Office recognized? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> If they only gazette ICDL and leave out OpenICDL >>> >> >> http://www.openicdl.org/ we shall go to court to have the Gazette >>> >> >> Notice annulled on the basis of its illegality hence illegitimacy. >>> >> >> Contemplating such an illegal move would leave sour scars and in >>> any >>> >> >> case we no longer have time for niceties play with Microsofties >>> >> >> family.. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Rad! <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> I sincerely hope this is not the case. It would be very >>> unfortunate >>> if >>> >> >>> government forces citizens to take a certain route. >>> >> >>> From my small investigation ICDL seems to be a pretty widespread >>> >> >>> standard >>> >> >>> that is supposed to be vendor neutral and not linked to any >>> particular >>> >> >>> software. See this link for some >>> >> >>> information. http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=108 >>> as >>> >> >>> well >>> >> >>> as >>> >> >>> this one http://www.ecdl.com/programmes/index.jsp?p=108&n=119. 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Nokia Research technical intern in Kenya
by Benjamin Makai 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Sambaza ==== Nokia Research is looking for a technical intern to work on a project in the US and Kenya during 2010. Self-help groups are a large-scale phenomenon in Africa. Participation varies by country, typically from 50-90% of the total population. These groups, called "chama" ("association" in Swahili), help their members save and borrow in a rotational manner. Chama also offer a way for people to exchange skills or barter tasks. This aspect of skill exchange is the focus of the project. The project is to help design and to implement a method for self-help groups to better learn about and exchange skills within a group and between connected groups. The method will use IVRs and SMS to act as a communication channel. The applicant must be a current student at a US college or university and have a strong computer science background. Advanced undergraduates, Masters, and early PhDs are encouraged to apply. Publication of results will be strongly encouraged. Presentation of work at a Nokia Lab in the US will be required at the end of the internship. Facility with Django/Python, Perl, basic bash and cron scripts, basic Unix system administration, and MySQL are required and will be evaluated as part of the application process. Scope of the internship: - January: two week visit to Kenya to meet the team and to better understand how self-helps group work in sub-Saharan Africa. - Feb-May/June (end of your term): begin project development (5-10 hours/week) - June-Aug (three months): finish implementation, and field test prototype in collaboration with social scientists in Kenya - Sep-Dec: prepare academic paper on work (5-10 hours/week) Please only apply if you can travel to Kenya in January and during the summer, and can be an intern during the spring and fall semesters. Applicants should sent a succinct, single-page cover letter and a CV to Jonathan Ledlie (jonathan.ledlie(a)nokia.com) by Friday November 20. Please send two reference letters and a copy of your transcript with your application. The intern will be selected by December 11. The internship is paid. Both trips to Kenya will be paid for. Housing in Kenya will be arranged and paid for.

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Please Join Us at Jacaranda, Nov 7, 2009, 10am-1pm
by S.Murigi Muraya 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

Dear All, There of us who believe in Interoperability - enabling different systems (whether open or proprietary) to seamlessly connect and communicate - are meeting at: *The Jacaranda Hotel, 10am-1pm on Saturday, Nov 7, 2009.* PS Ndemo will be represented by his Head of IT. We welcome other E-Gov Practitioners / Executives to come and participate in a discussion to educate us on how we can help Government build Information and transactional systems to benefit all Kenyans. We will hear from a Kenyan who is part of a team LOCALLY building an E-Gov system for an EU Municipality. He Will Be Interviewed By Another Guru Building Some HR (System.Web) at the UN in Nairobi. You Our Audience Also Get To Question Them Both! Conrad Akunga, our own Kenyan Microsoft C# (an OPEN Programming Technology) Most Valuable Professional - Awarded to him by a World Wide and World Class Community of Software Developers, Will Facilitate the E-Gov Q & A Session! Our Good Software Developers (GSD's) get to find out how government talks to them and Government gets to find out what kind of working conditions our GSD's need to deliver working Information and Transactional systems for Kenyans. Then We Leave at 1pm! There Will Be Refreshments In Between 10am and 1pm. Probably at 11.30am for those who register. KARIBUNI! ___________________ Please e-mail me AND emmanuel.birech(a)microsoft.com to confirm your attendance - for planning purposes. ___________________ http://blogs.msdn.com/interoperability/ *For the more technically inclined / interested, we will show 2 FANTASTIC 'History of Visual Studio' Videos at 9am-10am* There are 10 parts but we will only show Parts 1 and 2 - which overview the other 8 videos.

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ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized?
by wesley kirinya 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

KTN's Business news says that the government will only recognize (and will gazette) computer literacy as someone who at least has ICDL. Microsoft was mentioned (by the guy narrating the news). Dr.Ndemo confirmed (in the news clip) ICDL as Spreadsheet, Word processor, Presentation and Database. Open Office has similar packages. Can Dr. Ndemo at least confirm whether Open Office and any other office packages are recognized by government? or in other words what content makes an ICDL package? I find it mind-blowingly strange that Microsoft's Office products would be the only ones recognized as ICDL (as mentioned in the news clip). O_o?

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Shouldn't Tea Time for Kenya Mean IDN Top-Level Domains?
by alice 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20091027_shouldnt_tea_time_for_kenya_mean_idn… Shouldn't Tea Time for Kenya Mean IDN Top-Level Domains? By Andrew Mack Anyone who knows Kenya knows it is famous for tea. And while I can now get Kenyan tea online from US companies like Starbucks, Caribou Coffee or any number of other re-sellers, like most consumers I would vastly prefer to cut out the middle man and buy my tea direct from Kenyan companies. Why not? But here's the rub. Besides me and a significant number of Brits, who buys Kenyan tea? According to Kenya's Department of Agriculture, after the UK the three largest buyers of Kenyan tea are Egypt, Pakistan, and Sudan. In fact, the Arabic speaking Middle East accounts for about 25% of world tea purchases. To reach these customers directly, Kenyan tea producers really need the ability to "speak their language" on the web—to provide websites and web addresses that are all in Arabic or Urdu. However, since today's internet doesn't allow website names in anything but Roman characters after the dot, we've got to wait for ICANN to enable these Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs). Monday night here in Seoul ICANN held a reception to celebrate the coming of IDNs for country code domains (like .eg for Egypt). It was a love fest, complete with cocktails, slide shows and commemorative t-shirts. And it's true, ICANN should be complimented for this advance—however belated. Still, as I sat there talking with delegates from Kenya I was struck by just how limited a victory this will be—and what a missed opportunity it is—for existing and potential e-businesses. Even to reach their best Arabic-speaking markets with an all-Arabic website, no Kenyan company is likely to go through the trouble and expense of buying IDN domains in more than 20 Arabic-speaking countries. So where does that leave the Kenyan tea industry? If I were the Kenya Tea Development Agency, Ltd I would want to keep it simple. What I would really want is the Arabic version of the website I already have—www.ktdateas.com. In the end the issue of IDNs shouldn't be about linguistics or politics, but about economic growth and development, about making the Internet more accessible for the billions of new users and businesses coming online every day. Now that ICANN has committed to make IDN ccTLDs available, why not make the most common existing TLDs—like .com and.org—next in line? If, as the proverb goes, "tea is liquid wisdom" then ICANN should have a cup or two… then get about the business of bringing global TLDs to the IDN space. Written by Andrew Mack, Principal at AMGlobal Consulting Related topics: Domain Names, ICANN, Internet Governance, Multilinguism, Top-Level Domain

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[Fwd: CircleID Weekly Wrap for 2009-11-03]
by alice 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Dear all, An interesting and comprehensive read ( including one titled Shouldn't Tea Time for Kenya Mean IDN Top-Level Domains? <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/3a446420ee>)on some of the issues that were discussed/tackled at the just concluded ICANN meeting in Seoul. best regards alice -------- Original Message -------- Subject: CircleID Weekly Wrap for 2009-11-03 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:35:24 +0000 From: CircleID <CircleID(a)mail.vresp.com> Reply-To: CircleID <reply-0fdf61bc84-000096a75d-0d74(a)u.cts.vresp.com> To: alice(a)apc.org CircleID <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/ebbce8aa65> INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE . WEEKLY WRAP: Oct 27, 2009 - Nov 03, 2009 News Briefs US Opens Unified Cyber Security Command Centre <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/4f7c28b3d6> Nov 02, 2009 - Include Your Comments <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/7fe23f7e3f> ICANN to Start Accepting Non-Latin TLD Applications as Early as Next Month <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/99ad02a35a> Oct 29, 2009 (Updated: Nov 01, 2009) - Include Your Comments <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/e89d1d81c9> IPv6 Key Part of Multi-Billion Dollar Smart Grid Projects <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/93aad58fe5> Oct 29, 2009 - Include Your Comments <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/b334dd2315> U.K. Police Apologizes for Linking RIPE with Money Laundering <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/f8c28f2d78> Oct 29, 2009 - Include Your Comments <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/35e130564a> Google CEO Discusses Future of the Web and Enterprise Computing <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/b97e9bdb5d> Oct 27, 2009 - Include Your Comments <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/c35b852601> Featured Blogs Are Auctions the Last Resort to Determine gTLD Winners? I Vote Open Business Plan Competitions <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/ca7d4460e0> I have been reading through the last gTLD applicant guidebook and have wondered whether all my efforts, traveling, attending all major music conference and lobbying come with any merit. How do you define a community? What is the difference between a dotGreece, dotGay or dotMusic community? ...Whether we like it or not, the point system is what ICANN has set up to determine the winners. If you were to ask me I would create a different method of scoring. It is one of open competition. *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/d4819b83ec> Nov 03, 2009 - by Constantine Roussos <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/fd106d363c> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: Domain Names <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/4844aa139a>, ICANN <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/5d3c11adfa>, Top-Level Domains <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/12904a97ad>, Web <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/c5e15a5689> Why WIPO's Proposed Fast-Track UDRP Process is Flawed <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/aa74c8f0f7> In the midst of ICANN's decision to ask the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) to create proposals on trademark protection mechanisms, the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) announced that it will launch a fast-track UDRP process... The WIPO move is flawed and creates various problems. Here is an account. *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/92caf6d240> Nov 02, 2009 - by Konstantinos Komaitis <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/2dfdb8f002> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: Cybersquatting <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/3da0533956>, Domain Names <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/b4088ada02>, ICANN <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/207adee13a>, Law <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/956bafe289>, Policy & Regulation <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/7a6c4488a7> Is IPv6 Wrestling Within an Unpredictable Telecommunications Industry? <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/4c094270b0> The theme of the 40th International Institute of Communications (IIC) conference in Montreal this week was "Wrestling with unpredictability in Global Communications". The panel I had the pleasure to be part of was under the motto : "Broadband futures". One of the questions addressed to me : Should we be concerned about a shortage of IP addresses as more people use broadband networks for more things? *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/cb9d4aed32> Oct 31, 2009 - by Yves Poppe <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/2332b63db0> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: Broadband <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/2a3313d82d>, IPv6 <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/747683d182>, Mobile <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/490b2d6ecd>, Telecom <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/8c4ff7d132> A Case for Dot-Outlet TLD <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/2255f93b10> This post outlines the correct use of an outlet strategy, points out the value of such a strategy, and the advantages of executing the strategy through a new ICANN top-level domain (TLD) instead of a second-level domain name. Some companies need to signal a brand name with low prices and quality/utility, whether the strategy is for a primary or secondary corporate brand. A successful strategy has to explicitly include lower price and quality. Otherwise, with only a lower price, a brand owner would cannibalize the main brand and cause damage to brand equity. *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/4e671bb37e> Oct 29, 2009 - by Alex Tajirian <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/0ddea6b9b0> - Comments: 1 Related Topics: Cybersquatting <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/39b2a0c202>, Domain Names <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/765762aa85>, ICANN <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/f3c7887230>, Top-Level Domains <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/2ca87fbaa2> Once Begun is ONLY Half Done <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/8354a1a9d2> In the brief history of Internet governance, few initiatives have been greeted with wider support than the recently signed Affirmation of Commitments between the U.S. Department of Commerce and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). The praise is well deserved, but now it's time to remind ICANN of the problems that the AOC did not solve, most importantly ICANN's ongoing accountability gap. *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/685ab6ad9a> Oct 28, 2009 - by Jonathan Zuck <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/668d85fa10> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: ICANN <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/dd7fa11878>, Internet Governance <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/1e3ab7b181> Privacy Polls v. Real-World Trade-Offs <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/53082fb5db> A recent telephone poll conducted by professors at Berkeley and the University of Pennsylvania concluded, "Contrary to what many marketers claim, most adult Americans (66%) do not want marketers to tailor advertisements to their interest." The study's authors claim that their poll is the "the first nationally representative telephone (wireline and cell phone) survey to explore Americans' opinions about behavioral targeting by marketers." ... But what is most surprising about this poll is not that 66% of users said they do not want tailored online ads, but that 34% of users said they did! *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/3d744fd6ed> Oct 28, 2009 - by Berin Szoka <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/e86d894ef6> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: Law <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/33272d22e1>, Policy & Regulation <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/81b6ea94e6>, Privacy <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/9d1662740c> A Sigh of Relief for Brand Owners …Not So .Fast <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/70aaefcd34> All indications from the ICANN meetings in Seoul are that significant delays for the release of new gTLDs (Generic Top Level Domains) are expected. According to Rod Beckstrom, ICANN's CEO, new gTLDs will be made available when, "we've adequately addressed the important issues that are on the table." These important issues include efforts to address malicious conduct, root scaling, economic analysis, trademark protections, and vertical separation as related to the new gTLDs. *more* » <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/3d7f541c8d> Oct 28, 2009 - by Elisa Cooper <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/ac8c74bb04> - Comments: 0 Related Topics: Cybersquatting <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/7eced87ca3>, Domain Names <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/b21b96daca>, ICANN <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/a038410431>, Multilinguism <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/b4a597b71f>, Top-Level Domains <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/448de6c69b> Shouldn't Tea Time for Kenya Mean IDN Top-Level Domains? <http://cts.vresp.com/c/?CircleID/0fdf61bc84/000096a75d/3a446420ee> Anyone who knows Kenya knows it is famous for tea. And while I can now get Kenyan tea online from US companies like Starbucks, Caribou Coffee or any number of other re-sellers, like most consumers I would vastly prefer to cut out the middle man and buy my tea direct from Kenyan companies. Why not? 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Skunkworks Meeting, Today, 3rd November, 2009, KDN CEO, Talking Fibre
by Phares Kariuki 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

Hi, There will be a Skunkworks meeting on the 3rd of November *TODAY*, at Teleposta Towers, 4th Floor. We are pleased to have the speaker as Mr. KaiWulff, KDN CEO. Meeting will start at 6 pm. Topics covered will be as follows: 1. Kenya, now that the Fibre has landed, what’s the future? 2. What it takes to build a fibre network in Kenya 3. KDN’s future plans. All are welcome. Refreshments will be served. Thanks to our kind sponsors, Multimedia University College of Kenya for graciously hosting us, time after time, and KDN for their sponsorship. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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Fw: Balanced Scorecard:- Build and Sustain a Successful Performance Management System
by Matunda Nyanchama 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

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Zeins Internet Contracts
by Samuel Gichuru 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hi Good people, I wonder if there is someone else out there who has had a problem with Zeins Intenet contracts, last year I signed up for their service , after a couple of months the service was definitely not worth the cost, hence I discontinued buying the scratch cards and moved to Orange live box, as expected they disconnected the services - But what is surprising is they kept billing me, ok, how do you bill for undelivered service? I have worked for ISP's and I am yet to find a situation where you bill a client for service that was undelivered... Someone shed some light on this issue tafadhali... -- Warm Regards -------------------------------------- Sam Gichuru

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Re: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh?
by nicholasnesbitt 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Kai Quick question... In this example, if you can get 638GB on a 1Mbps pipe for USD$600, then should 10GB not cost you a little under USD $10 rather than "less than USD $1.."..? To address the general questions asked by the press and all and sundry, I think the challenge in understanding pricing frequently arises because the press and public don't quite understand the following basics: 1. 8 bits = 1 Byte; one cannot use the terms bit and Byte interchangeably 2. Mbps is the common term used in reference to speed or throughput (megabits per sec), not MBps (mega Bytes per second); 1Mbps = 0.125 MBps or a 125K file will download in 1 second. 3. MB is a unit of storage/size... and 1 GB = 1,000 MB And with regard to the TZ example, the prices in TZ are $2,415 for a pipe that allows you to download 1 Mb of data per second, (not 1MBps, as the author in this email insinuated). In Kenya that same 1 Mbps pipe costs $600 from KDN. So the headline that TZ was the "first to reduce its prices" was not accurate. In addition, downloading 1 GB of content in TZ costs $200, whereas in Kenya it is less than $10! Big difference, as Kai points out! Interestingly, at these Kenya wholesale prices, to download 1MB of data in Kenya would cost $ USD 0.0009 or 7 Kenya cents... therefore, if we pay 1 KES for 1MB of downloaded data, as recently advertised in the papers, there is a lot of margin for the providers...93% So, I hope it's also clear that companies typically charge a standing amount for a certain "size/speed" of pipe (256Kbps, 512Kbps, 1 Mbps, etc) and "may" charge an additional fee for the amount of actual data/ throughput (GB) that you downloaded on the pipe. You can download content on any size pipe, it just takes longer on the slower speed pipes.. It would really get interesting in Kenya if we were to pay a certain amount for the speed of the pipe, but the amount of data that we download is not metered, i.e. download as much as you like off the internet for free... unlimited access as it is in many parts of the developed world.. Download video, browse the internet, make phone calls, play games all for free (unless your paying an online service provider to buy a video or play a game,etc), but the monthly pricing to the ISP is based on the speed of the pipe and not on what you download on the pipe... Now that will be progress... Nik On Oct 31, 2009, at 11:01 AM, kai wulff wrote: > And I get complaints about the charges in Kenya … > > There is another confusion .. > > Some people confuse packages (like 1GBYTE) with throughput like > 1Mbps … > > If you have 1Mbps duplex you can receive: > > 1 Megabyte in 8 seconds > > 7.5 Megabyte in a minute > > 450 Megabyte in an hour > > 10800 Megabyte in a day > > 326700 Megabyte (319 Gigabyte) in a month (30.25 days) > > Since you can send the same amount you could have a volume of 638 > Gigabyte with a 1Mbps pipe … > > So if you take 1Mbps at 600 USD you will arrive for a package of > 10Gigabyte at less than 1 USD ….. > > > > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[email protected] > ] Im Auftrag von Brian Munyao Longwe > Gesendet: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:47 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh? > > TTCL drops pricing to 1MB for $2415/month? and that is low? Read > on..... > > First East African country to lower internet rates? hmmmm..... > Tanzania First to Lower Internet Rates > > Tanzania Telecommunication Company Ltd customers will from this > month enjoy a 50 per cent cut in Internet charges, making Tanzania > the first East African country to lower Internet charges. TTCL chief > executive officer Said Amour Said, told The EastAfrican that the > lowering of charges follows the firm's connecting to the Seacom > submarine fibre optic cable. > > "TTCL has reduced its Internet prices effective from October 1, in > order to pass on this cost saving benefit to the end users, and the > high customer expectations of reduced costs on Internet services > have finally been met," he said. > > The new prices will see high volume Internet users including banks, > large businesses and corporations, government agencies and other > institutions enjoying a substantial Internet bandwidth cost > reduction as customers will get the same capacity of bandwidth at a > third the current prices. > > Under the new structure, a client who buys 1Mbps of Internet > capacity for Tsh9.2 million ($7,000) will now buy the same capacity > for just Tsh3.14 million ($2,415). > > For small and medium businesses like cyber cafes, the price has been > slashed by 50 per cent. > > According to Mr Said, customers who were buying 5GB for $200 > (Tsh200,000) will now buy 10GB for the same amount of money, and > that all Internet subscribers in this category would continue to get > high speed of up to 4Mbps through their TTCL fixed lines. > > According to the new tariff, non-commercial ordinary clients will > enjoy a new package with unlimited use for a monthly price of > Tsh45,000 ($ 43) with a speed of up to 256Kbps. > > "It is an ideal service mostly for the common man because it is > affordable and guarantees continuous usage," explained Said. > > (Source: The East African) > > > > -- > Brian Munyao Longwe > e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com > cell: + 254 722 518 744 > blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com > meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: nnesbitt(a)kencall.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnesbitt%40kencall.com

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Re: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh?
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 01 Nov '09

01 Nov '09

Telkom Kenya raises stakes in data market with Sh1 per MB plan Telkom Kenya on Wednesday revised its Internet charges downwards, raising the stakes in the battle for control of the data market which is expected to be the next frontier of revenue growth for telecoms firms. Subscribers will pay Sh1 per megabyte (MB), one of the lowest Internet tariffs currently on offer from a telecom firm. Previously, the company charged from Sh2 or more per MB depending on the Internet bundle a customer opted for. The Sh1 per MB rate will will apply for buyers of the 4 gigabyte (GB) bundle which will be priced at Sh3,900. Other providers of low-cost Internet are Access Kenya, which charges Sh1 per MB for its home Internet services. Mickael Ghossein, CEO Telkom Kenya, said the price cut is meant to reposition the company in the data market in which it was a key player before the liberalisation of the ICT sector ushered in competition that has since eaten into the firm’s market share. Rival mobile operators have reacted to Telkom’s move by acknowledging the increase in competition in the sector. “Of course we expect a lot of competition and tariffs will have to fall to reflect this. In the long run, however, you have to consider the issue of customer experience and you also need a critical subscriber base to create a sustainable business model,” said Chris Tiffin, Safaricom’s Chief Financial Officer. Telkom is targeting both corporate and individual clients with the reduced prices. The regulatory stance taken by the government recently may also lead to a reduction in revenues gleaned for the voice market. Last month, prime minister Raila Odinga ordered a review of mobile call charges saying they were too high and not a true reflection of international trends. As Telkom was announcing its new charges, Safaricom and Equity bank were also unveiling a partnership in which the bank will offer loans to the public for the purchase of laptops while the mobile phone operator will supply Internet modems to the laptop owners. (Source: Business Daily) On 31 Oct 2009, at 04:01, kai wulff wrote: > And I get complaints about the charges in Kenya … > > There is another confusion .. > > Some people confuse packages (like 1GBYTE) with throughput like > 1Mbps … > > If you have 1Mbps duplex you can receive: > > 1 Megabyte in 8 seconds > > 7.5 Megabyte in a minute > > 450 Megabyte in an hour > > 10800 Megabyte in a day > > 326700 Megabyte (319 Gigabyte) in a month (30.25 days) > > Since you can send the same amount you could have a volume of 638 > Gigabyte with a 1Mbps pipe … > > So if you take 1Mbps at 600 USD you will arrive for a package of > 10Gigabyte at less than 1 USD ….. > > > > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] > Im Auftrag von Brian Munyao Longwe > Gesendet: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:47 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh? > > TTCL drops pricing to 1MB for $2415/month? and that is low? Read > on..... > > First East African country to lower internet rates? hmmmm..... > Tanzania First to Lower Internet Rates > > Tanzania Telecommunication Company Ltd customers will from this > month enjoy a 50 per cent cut in Internet charges, making Tanzania > the first East African country to lower Internet charges. TTCL chief > executive officer Said Amour Said, told The EastAfrican that the > lowering of charges follows the firm's connecting to the Seacom > submarine fibre optic cable. > > "TTCL has reduced its Internet prices effective from October 1, in > order to pass on this cost saving benefit to the end users, and the > high customer expectations of reduced costs on Internet services > have finally been met," he said. > > The new prices will see high volume Internet users including banks, > large businesses and corporations, government agencies and other > institutions enjoying a substantial Internet bandwidth cost > reduction as customers will get the same capacity of bandwidth at a > third the current prices. > > Under the new structure, a client who buys 1Mbps of Internet > capacity for Tsh9.2 million ($7,000) will now buy the same capacity > for just Tsh3.14 million ($2,415). > > For small and medium businesses like cyber cafes, the price has been > slashed by 50 per cent. > > According to Mr Said, customers who were buying 5GB for $200 > (Tsh200,000) will now buy 10GB for the same amount of money, and > that all Internet subscribers in this category would continue to get > high speed of up to 4Mbps through their TTCL fixed lines. > > According to the new tariff, non-commercial ordinary clients will > enjoy a new package with unlimited use for a monthly price of > Tsh45,000 ($ 43) with a speed of up to 256Kbps. > > "It is an ideal service mostly for the common man because it is > affordable and guarantees continuous usage," explained Said. > > (Source: The East African) > > > > -- > Brian Munyao Longwe > e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com > cell: + 254 722 518 744 > blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com > meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emko%40internetresearc… Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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Re: [kictanet] Uproar Over Internet Costs in Kenya
by alice munyua 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

KDN, For example "is currently selling submarine capacity, delivered to the user at between 220 and 600 USD per 4 Mbps! This is an effective price of between 55 to 150 USD per Mbps depending on volume". Best Alice ------Original Message------ From: alice munyua Sender: kictanet-bounces+alice=apc.org(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke To: alice(a)apc.org Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions ReplyTo: alice(a)apc.org Subject: Re: [kictanet] Uproar Over Internet Costs in Kenya Sent: 30 Oct 2009 07:03 Hi Eric Thank you for this posting. A question though, who wrote this piece and where did they get their information apart from quoting P.S. Ndemo? Best Alice -----Original Message----- From: Eric M.K Osiakwan <emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:14:14 To: <alice(a)apc.org> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Uproar Over Internet Costs in Kenya _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: alice(a)apc.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: alice(a)apc.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/alice%40apc.org

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Re: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh?
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

Loud applause for breaking it down, can our colleague journalists and consumer stakeholders distribute this widely so the masses are educated so they demand what belongs to them.... Eric here On 31 Oct 2009, at 04:01, kai wulff wrote: > And I get complaints about the charges in Kenya … > > There is another confusion .. > > Some people confuse packages (like 1GBYTE) with throughput like > 1Mbps … > > If you have 1Mbps duplex you can receive: > > 1 Megabyte in 8 seconds > > 7.5 Megabyte in a minute > > 450 Megabyte in an hour > > 10800 Megabyte in a day > > 326700 Megabyte (319 Gigabyte) in a month (30.25 days) > > Since you can send the same amount you could have a volume of 638 > Gigabyte with a 1Mbps pipe … > > So if you take 1Mbps at 600 USD you will arrive for a package of > 10Gigabyte at less than 1 USD ….. > > > > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] > Im Auftrag von Brian Munyao Longwe > Gesendet: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:47 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh? > > TTCL drops pricing to 1MB for $2415/month? and that is low? Read > on..... > > First East African country to lower internet rates? hmmmm..... > Tanzania First to Lower Internet Rates > > Tanzania Telecommunication Company Ltd customers will from this > month enjoy a 50 per cent cut in Internet charges, making Tanzania > the first East African country to lower Internet charges. TTCL chief > executive officer Said Amour Said, told The EastAfrican that the > lowering of charges follows the firm's connecting to the Seacom > submarine fibre optic cable. > > "TTCL has reduced its Internet prices effective from October 1, in > order to pass on this cost saving benefit to the end users, and the > high customer expectations of reduced costs on Internet services > have finally been met," he said. > > The new prices will see high volume Internet users including banks, > large businesses and corporations, government agencies and other > institutions enjoying a substantial Internet bandwidth cost > reduction as customers will get the same capacity of bandwidth at a > third the current prices. > > Under the new structure, a client who buys 1Mbps of Internet > capacity for Tsh9.2 million ($7,000) will now buy the same capacity > for just Tsh3.14 million ($2,415). > > For small and medium businesses like cyber cafes, the price has been > slashed by 50 per cent. > > According to Mr Said, customers who were buying 5GB for $200 > (Tsh200,000) will now buy 10GB for the same amount of money, and > that all Internet subscribers in this category would continue to get > high speed of up to 4Mbps through their TTCL fixed lines. > > According to the new tariff, non-commercial ordinary clients will > enjoy a new package with unlimited use for a monthly price of > Tsh45,000 ($ 43) with a speed of up to 256Kbps. > > "It is an ideal service mostly for the common man because it is > affordable and guarantees continuous usage," explained Said. > > (Source: The East African) > > > > -- > Brian Munyao Longwe > e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com > cell: + 254 722 518 744 > blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com > meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emko%40internetresearc… Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh?
by Brian Munyao Longwe 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

TTCL drops pricing to 1MB for $2415/month? and that is low? Read on..... First East African country to lower internet rates? hmmmm..... Tanzania First to Lower Internet Rates Tanzania Telecommunication Company Ltd customers will from this month enjoy a 50 per cent cut in Internet charges, making Tanzania the first East African country to lower Internet charges. TTCL chief executive officer Said Amour Said, told The EastAfrican that the lowering of charges follows the firm's connecting to the Seacom submarine fibre optic cable. "TTCL has reduced its Internet prices effective from October 1, in order to pass on this cost saving benefit to the end users, and the high customer expectations of reduced costs on Internet services have finally been met," he said. The new prices will see high volume Internet users including banks, large businesses and corporations, government agencies and other institutions enjoying a substantial Internet bandwidth cost reduction as customers will get the same capacity of bandwidth at a third the current prices. Under the new structure, a client who buys 1Mbps of Internet capacity for Tsh9.2 million ($7,000) will now buy the same capacity for just Tsh3.14 million ($2,415). For small and medium businesses like cyber cafes, the price has been slashed by 50 per cent. According to Mr Said, customers who were buying 5GB for $200 (Tsh200,000) will now buy 10GB for the same amount of money, and that all Internet subscribers in this category would continue to get high speed of up to 4Mbps through their TTCL fixed lines. According to the new tariff, non-commercial ordinary clients will enjoy a new package with unlimited use for a monthly price of Tsh45,000 ($ 43) with a speed of up to 256Kbps. "It is an ideal service mostly for the common man because it is affordable and guarantees continuous usage," explained Said. (Source: The East African) -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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ICANN approves internationalized domain names
by Harry Hare 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-main-stories/333-icann-approves-inte rnationalized-domain-names.html I¹m not sure this is internationalization or localisation, and the first challenge...how do you type .com in Chinese on your QWERTY keyboard? Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

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Re: [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh?
by S.Murigi Muraya 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

To think that Nyerere spoke of Kenya as being man eat man ... Looks like they are following in our footsteps now. Question: Is it viable to offer monthly throughput @ USD 2.00 to the masses, yet? Not to justify mobile networks (rarely use them due to the factors you just explained below), 1GB at USD 2.00 is a way to package it for the masses who earn 2-5 USD per day - without taking you telcos and ISP's out of business. With the Safaricom offer, users in low density areas, are hitting speeds (throughputs) of up to 1Mbs while in more densely populated areas experience much less. So while some can download up to 5GB per day, others can only download 500Mb for the same KES 200. Safaricom has been wise not to to be too specific in their offer - just calling it unlimited downloads for KES 200 per day. That said, look forward to hearing you speak at the Skunkworks meeting on Thursday, Nov 3, 2009. Come with your marketers with pricing information about FTTB, routers .... SMM kai wulff wrote: > > And I get complaints about the charges in Kenya ... > > > > There is another confusion .. > > > > Some people confuse packages (like 1GBYTE) with throughput like 1Mbps ... > > > > If you have 1Mbps duplex you can receive: > > > > 1 Megabyte in 8 seconds > > > > 7.5 Megabyte in a minute > > > > 450 Megabyte in an hour > > > > 10800 Megabyte in a day > > > > 326700 Megabyte (319 Gigabyte) in a month (30.25 days) > > > > Since you can send the same amount you could have a volume of 638 > Gigabyte with a 1Mbps pipe ... > > > > So if you take 1Mbps at 600 USD you will arrive for a package of > 10Gigabyte at less than 1 USD ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[email protected]] *Im > Auftrag von *Brian Munyao Longwe > *Gesendet:* Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:47 > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* [kictanet] Tanzania first to lower internet rates? huh? > > > > TTCL drops pricing to 1MB for $2415/month? and that is low? Read on..... > > First East African country to lower internet rates? hmmmm..... > > > Tanzania First to Lower Internet Rates > > Tanzania Telecommunication Company Ltd customers will from this month > enjoy a 50 per cent cut in Internet charges, making Tanzania the first > East African country to lower Internet charges. TTCL chief executive > officer Said Amour Said, told The EastAfrican that the lowering of > charges follows the firm's connecting to the Seacom submarine fibre > optic cable. > > "TTCL has reduced its Internet prices effective from October 1, in > order to pass on this cost saving benefit to the end users, and the > high customer expectations of reduced costs on Internet services have > finally been met," he said. > > The new prices will see high volume Internet users including banks, > large businesses and corporations, government agencies and other > institutions enjoying a substantial Internet bandwidth cost reduction > as customers will get the same capacity of bandwidth at a third the > current prices. > > Under the new structure, a client who buys 1Mbps of Internet capacity > for Tsh9.2 million ($7,000) will now buy the same capacity for just > Tsh3.14 million ($2,415). > > For small and medium businesses like cyber cafes, the price has been > slashed by 50 per cent. > > According to Mr Said, customers who were buying 5GB for $200 > (Tsh200,000) will now buy 10GB for the same amount of money, and that > all Internet subscribers in this category would continue to get high > speed of up to 4Mbps through their TTCL fixed lines. > > According to the new tariff, non-commercial ordinary clients will > enjoy a new package with unlimited use for a monthly price of > Tsh45,000 ($ 43) with a speed of up to 256Kbps. > > "It is an ideal service mostly for the common man because it is > affordable and guarantees continuous usage," explained Said. > > (Source: The East African) > > > > -- > Brian Munyao Longwe > e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]> > cell: + 254 722 518 744 > blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com > meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: murigi.muraya(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail.… >

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