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Time and Venue: In-person conversation with Facebook
by Liz Orembo 29 Apr '18

29 Apr '18

Listers, Further to our earlier announcement, we would like to inform you that the in-person meeting with Facebook will take place on *2nd May, 2:00pm-4:00pm, at the Villa Rossa Kempinski*. We still have a few slots remaining and have opened them up on evenbrite. If you've not registered with Mwara and/or me, please follow this link for registration. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kictanet-meeting-with-facebook-tickets-4562814… Asanteni. On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Dear Listers > > Greetings! > > Further to the debate on concerns raised around consumer data mining in > Kenya, Ebele of Facebook promised Listers that she would be available for > an in-person conversation on the issues raised around facebook's role. > > This is to let you know that she will be available to meet with Listers on *Wednesday > next week May 2nd*. We are still working out the details of the venue and > will share with those who are interested in attending. Further, we are > working on the times but will most likely settle for an afternoon session > or a cocktail event. > > For those who are interested, kindly indicate this through sending an > email to lizorembo(a)kictanet.or.ke (lizorembo(a)gmail.com) or to > mwaragichanga(a)kictanet.or.ke (mwaragichanga(a)gmail.com) > > Asanteni. > > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > > On Tuesday, 10-04-2018 at 13:18 Ebele Okobi via kictanet wrote: > > It really is unfortunate that Business Daily has printed an article filled > with so many factually incorrect statements, and I am surprised that they > have declined to reach out to me or any of my colleagues when we are so > very easy to find. > > We do not require or ask access point vendors to modify firmware to > support 'black box' monitoring of consumers. The normal tech in WiFi > routers does not support zero-rated services, so Express WiFi tech was > developed to support free access and data pack accounting. > > I think it might be helpful to have an in-person conversation about all of > this-another ask me anything, this month? I’ll work with Grace to schedule, > if it’s of interest. > > Ebele Okobi | Public Policy Director, Africa > > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 <+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> > > 10 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FG > > ebeleokobi(a)fb.com > > > On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Lawrence Njogu <lnjogu(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Ebele, > Can you explain clearly what's going on here? https://mobile.nation.co.ke/ > business/Facebook-deepens-consumer-data-mining-in-Kenya- > /1950106-4379966-gsmf4x/index.html > ------------------------------ > *From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+lnjogu=hotmail.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > on behalf of Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:05:13 PM > *To:* lnjogu(a)hotmail.com > *Cc:* Ebele Okobi > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook > > So now that you know how our business works, are you still struggling to > believe that data is not sold? We do not sell data, we sell advertising. > And we have not been accused of selling data in this case. In this case, an > academic used data that Facebook users directly gave him access to, and > passed it on to Cambridge Analytica, against our rules. We did not sell > anyone anything, the data was passed from the users to the app > developer/academic by the user granting permission. That said-we changed > the ability of developers to have that kind of access by 2015, and as you > can see, we have designed and implemented a whole host of privacy controls > since then. > > In terms of believing whether your data is secure-given the number of > Facebook users, and the amount of data we hold, and looking at the multiple > global issues related to data-we, in truth, have first in class mechanisms > for protecting user data, and we consistently learn and iterate from our > mistakes. That said-as Mark said, we recognize that trust is built by > actions, and once lost it must be built back up. Only you can decide what > makes sense for you when you use (or decide not to use) Facebook or any of > the thousands of websites, platforms, apps, services with which you > undoubtedly interact every day. > > On Mar 28, 2018, at 9:43 PM, Tracy Kadesa via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > @Kivuva yes, your answer does explain well! > > @Ebele " > *Which part are you struggling to believe? That it is securely stored or > that it is not sold? " * > Answer: Both > > Regards > > Tracy Kadesa, > LL.B ,University of Nairobi. > Dip KSL > tracykadesa.wordpress.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tracykadesa.wordpress.c…> > legalwalk.wordpress.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__legalwalk.wordpress.com…> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Tracy, I'm not holding brief for FB, but I understand your question. > > The main business model for FB is advertisement. If you have ever > advertised on the platform, you would understand the need to build > profiles. So for example, if you are selling ladies handbags, and diapers, > you would tell FB to show the bags to [ladies], in [Kenya], aged between > [21 to 50]. If you cannot deliver to Turkana, you can say, [living in > Nairobi, or Mombasa]. For the diapers, you would tell FB to show the > advertisement to [ladies] between [22 and 40] living in suburban areas. > This is the same for Google too. > > In my FB profile, I never see these types of adverts because FB already > has a profile about me, but the ladies within my household see these > adverts. > > Since you are probably billed per view, or per click, it is more value for > the advertiser to TARGET the advertisement to the right audience, otherwise > you will loose your advertising capital showing irrelevant advertisement to > those in Turkana. > > > I hope this helps. > > On Mar 28, 2018 8:03 PM, "Tracy Kadesa" <kadesatracy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Ebele > > With what's going on right now, I am struggling to believe this > statement "Your information is securely stored and we do not sell this > information to third parties. You are always in control of the information > you share with Facebook." And why would fb collect all this info anyway > if it wasn't planning to make use of it! what is the rationale? > > Regards > > Tracy Kadesa, > LL.B ,University of Nairobi. > Dip KSL > tracykadesa.wordpress.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tracykadesa.wordpress.c…> > legalwalk.wordpress.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__legalwalk.wordpress.com…> > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > As Ali has put it before, it's really refreshing seeing that we can get > first level support, and feedback from Facebook. This really is the > advantage of having an ecosystem of engagement which KICTANET provides. > It's refreshing bigly [image: :-)] > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 6:06 PM Ebele Okobi via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Yes-those have been in the works for months, to be launched this week. The > news has understandably overshadowed these announcements. That said-stay > tuned for more details. > > > > On Mar 28, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > > Just seen this as well... > > https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-03-28/faceb > ook-updates-privacy-tools-for-better-data-control?__twitter_ > impression=true > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.bloomberg.com_amp_…> > > > Rgds > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018, 12:31 Ngigi Waithaka, <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > > Ebele, > > If that's the case, then I guess what they do is get a 'screenshot' of > your photo and maybe *overlay* it on your newsfeed / timeline. The > *impression* it gives you is that the photo is already uploaded... > > Thanks... > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> wrote: > > > Clarification-your photos are not auto-uploaded to Facebook. The app has > access to your photos and essentially shows you your own photo folder and > asks if you want to upload. Your pictures do not get uploaded to Facebook > until you upload them yourself. > > I do think it’s a good piece of feedback for our product teams to know > that a) this feature is confusing to you, and b) that showing users their > photos and asking if they want to upload can be off-putting/not a good > experience. > > Best, > Ebele > > > On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > > Ebele, > > Thanks for your update, I will check on the contacts settings as you have > indicated. > > I still think though some of the choices we make are not very *clearly* > spelt out when we make them. For instance, I can understand the need to > sync my contacts, but *not* my call & sms history! And this is especially > so for those of use (most of us?) who use our phones for both personal & > official business. > > My recommendation, have at least three settings clearly indicating what > you would use them for, if at all! > 1. Sync contacts > 2. Sync Call records (***) > 3. Sync SMS & Messages (***) > > As regards the photos this is what happen(s) / happened. Normally I would > not give FB access to my photos.However, at some point I needed to upload a > certain specific photo on to some FB markets that I participate in. > > Shortly as I was still in the market and as I was scrolling though my > newsfeed I started seeing a number of family photos that I had taken > earlier, already uploaded but kind of greyed out, with FB asking me whether > I wanted to share them. > > That is very disconcerting! > > Again, if a user gives access to his photo library for a *single* photo, > that should not mean *all* my photos are auto-uploaded to FB, then FB > prompts me to share them... > > My recommendation would be to have at least two settings: > 1. Upload a single photo > 2. Auto- Upload *ALL* my photos > > And, I don't consider myself a *pro* FB user, it may very well be that > indeed this is already covered so thanks for being our 'customer-care', > appreciate [image: :-)] > > Regards > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Answers below-for your first question, it’s VERY important to clarify that > Facebook does not “pick up” your contacts. You have to expressly agree to > upload your contacts. For example, I have never agreed to this, so my > contacts have never been uploaded. If you change your mind about the > permission you have given, or if you accidentally gave permission, please > see below for how to opt back out. Note that this feature is “opt-in”, so > express agreement is required for it to be happening. > > > > That is the same for the photographs, so can you please clarify your > question? Are you saying that you granted permission for specific photos to > be posted on your page, and now you want to delete them? Facebook does not > automatically upload any photographs to your page. > > > > 1. Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for > people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and > stay connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a > better experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use > this feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they > can turn it off in settings > <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, or here > <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for Facebook > Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared via that > app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android, > uploading this information has always been opt-in only. > > > > > > *From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> > *Date: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 5:37 PM > *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Cc: *Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi(a)fb.com> > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook > > > > Ebele, > > > > Good to see FB represented here. > > > > Got two questions: > > 1. Supposing FB has picked up my contacts and SMS and I would like to > delete any prior data that has been uploaded, how would I go about that? > > > > 2. I also noticed that when I allow FB contacts to my PhotoGallery on > Android for purposes of being able to select pictures to upload, by > default, it then would upload *all* new pictures taken and ask me whether > I'd like to share them on my timeline. > > Is there a way to also delete any such content that FB has picked from my > phone and auto-uploaded? > > > > Rgds > > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 19:30 Ebele Okobi via kictanet, < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > This is useful context, below. Please do let me know if there are > additional questions or concerns. I do appreciate how significant an issue > this is, and am happy to answer questions and relay concerns internally. > > > > https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-and-sms-history/ > > March 25, 2018 > Fact Check: Your Call and SMS History > > You may have seen some recent reports that Facebook has been logging > people’s call and SMS (text) history without their permission. > > This is not the case. > Opt-in features in Facebook Lite and Messenger > > Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people > using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and stay > connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a better > experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use this > feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they can > turn it off in settings <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>, > or here <https://www.facebook.com/help/fblite/355489824655936> for > Facebook Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared > via that app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android, > uploading this information has always been opt-in only. > > We introduced this feature for Android users a couple of years ago. > Contact importers are fairly common among social apps and services as a way > to more easily find the people you want to connect with. This was first > introduced in Messenger in 2015, and later offered as an option in Facebook > Lite, a lightweight version of Facebook for Android. > How it works > > When you sign up for Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android, or log into > Messenger on an Android device, you are given the option to continuously > upload your contacts as well as your call and text history. For Messenger, > you can either turn it on, choose ‘learn more’ or ‘not now’. On Facebook > Lite, the options are to turn it on or ‘skip’. If you chose to turn this > feature on, we will begin to continuously log this information, which can > be downloaded at any time using the Download Your Information tool > <https://www.facebook.com/help/131112897028467?helpref=page_content>. > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > If, at any point, you no longer wish to continuously upload this > information, you can easily turn this feature off in your settings > <https://www.facebook.com/help/838237596230667>. You can also turn off > continuous call and text history logging while keeping contact uploading > enabled. You can also go to this page > <https://www.facebook.com/mobile/messenger/contacts/> to see which > contacts you have uploaded from Messenger, and you can delete all contact > information you’ve uploaded from that app should you choose. > We never sell this data, and this feature does not collect the content of > your text messages or calls > > When this feature is enabled, uploading your contacts also allows us to > use information like when a call or text was made or received. This feature > does not collect the content of your calls or text messages. Your > information is securely stored and we do not sell this information to third > parties. You are always in control of the information you share with > Facebook. > > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:29 PM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bigthink.com_news_faceb…> > > > Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users > > Brandon A. Weber > > Have an Android phone or device? You might want to read this. > > > > > > > > > > BIGTHINK might have thoughts similar to your said friend. > > > > > > Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android phones > [Updated] > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__arstechnica.com_inform…> > > > Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android phones [... > > Maybe check your data archive to see if Facebook’s algorithms know who you > called. > > > > > > Factual or otherwise? Ars Technica makes reference to an FB rejoiner. > > > > > > It should not be lost that even the most basic loyalty card is for > decision making to serve you the customer better - data by the issuer. > > > > Be blessed. > > > > Regards/Wangari > > --- > *Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on > Earth".* > > > > > > On Monday, 26 March 2018, 08:52:17 GMT+3, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via > kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > > > See my views from a data science, business model and regulatory > perspective > > > > Data Breach? What Breach- A Watershed Moment > https://www.linkedin.com/ pulse/data-breach-what-breach- > watershed-moment-big-data- scientist > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linkedin.com_pulse…> > > > > > *Coach Timothy Oriedo* > > *Error! Filename not specified.*timothyoriedo.coach > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timothyoriedo.coach-3Fp…> > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Ali, > > Facebook was built for and is meant for *sharing*! With time, I have seen > FB make us want to share more and more, recommend to us 'friends' at every > turn and inevitably there will be a clash between the sharing and our > privacy! > > Also, there was a time our Newsfeeds were very clean, you'd actually get > to know what your friends were upto, but I do find its now looking > unrecognizable; its become this very noisy marketplace! Or maybe I am > gettitng old [image: :-)] > > > Privacy unfortunately plays 2nd fiddle to sharing. For me, the straw that > broke the proverbial camels back is seeing photos that I had taken on my > phone already auto-uploaded and semi-shared in my timeline, and with an > absent minded click, I would have shared all on the my timeline! > > I got the app off my phone immediately, but kept the web desktop as I do > continue to use it once in a while. > > I have also seen that FB has been collecting all our Phone records, calls > + SMS as written about on Verge... > https://www.theverge.com/2018/ 3/25/17160944/facebook-call- > history-sms-data-collection- android > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theverge.com_2018_…> > > So, I guess if you're still using FB on Android, you gotta be 'strong'! > > P.S > > Does FB and other Apps synchronize their data policies with those of the > users home country? > > > > Regards > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: > > Listers > > > > Hope you all had a great weekend. Here’s an interesting article on the > ongoing Facebook fallout. > > > > Excerpt:- > > > > I spent the evening with a friend who is far bolder than me. Having > deactivated his Facebook > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.email.fortune.co…> profile > three years ago, he upped the ante this week by deleting his Instagram > account. Even more drastically, he plans officially to *delete* his > long-dormant Facebook account—the last vestige of his serfhood in Mr. > Zuckerberg’s fiefdom—sometime very soon, after his girlfriend has had an > opportunity to port its photos elsewhere. (He prefers offline storage.) > > > > Read on:- > > > > https://view.email.fortune.com /?qs=55840ef3733ec70e7bbf70681 > a1fdf4ef688af63cc3bc7eef1a6466 871482204b1da0994a47ddc4eb36e5 > 5eca2c6a6c64c45c7cb49127419dc5 77951543699845cefb5000f8f8cbb > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__view.email.fortune.com…> > > > Regards > > > > *Ali Hussein* > > *Principal* > > *Hussein & Associates* > > +254 0713 601113 > > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ke.linkedin.com_in_alih…> > > > > "We are what we repeatedly do. 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Not in my ability > to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ > Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ > mailman/options/kictanet/lizorembo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF

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Fwd: [Igfregionals] European Youth IGFs Booklet
by Barrack Otieno 27 Apr '18

27 Apr '18

Listers, This might be of interest to some. Best Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sonia H. <s.sonia.h(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:06 PM Subject: [Igfregionals] European Youth IGFs Booklet To: Igfregionals(a)intgovforum.org Cc: Martin Fischer <martin.fischer.eu(a)gmail.com> Dear all, I am happy to share our booklet on youth participation in Internet governance which gives tips for starting your own local IGF structure, recommendations towards international programs on how to enhance youth participation through their work with an annex with 4 youth-friendly methods to introduce the complex topic of Internet governance. Feel free to use and share :) booklet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kEqiLfr17tH2ZVWLjsHGaWsuwXb 6czKl/view annex: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OKdDb8ZTo5KJsHW3B-eg5frr8IP FrX52/view Su Sonia Herring SEEDIG <http://seedig.net> Executive Committee Youth IGF Turkey <https://twitter.com/IGFTurkey> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/suherring> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/susotti> _______________________________________________ Igfregionals mailing list Igfregionals(a)intgovforum.org http://intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igfregionals_intgovforum.org -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno PGP ID: 0x2611D86A

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 131, Issue 53
by June Tessy 27 Apr '18

27 Apr '18

GG, Thanks for sharing the report, it is very well done and comprehensively covers the engagement. Kudos to KICTANet for taking the lead on and realizing actual legislative engagement at that high level. Makofi kwa GG, Mercy Mutemi and the team behind it. Very well done! Kind Regards, June Tessy LinkedIn Profile <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/juneokal> On 27 April 2018 at 11:07, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Talk to Senate Final Report (Grace Githaiga) > 2. Re: Talk to Senate Final Report (Martin Mavenjina) > 3. Kind Reminder: Invitation to an in-person conversation with > Facebook (mwara gichanga) > 4. Re: Talk to Senate Final Report (Kennedy Murambi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:06:19 +0300 > From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga(a)kictanet.or.ke> > To: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: [kictanet] Talk to Senate Final Report > Message-ID: <b79677562376e33ed60bd52d948cde48(a)webmail.kictanet.or.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Listers > > Greetings! > > Further to our?_Talk to Senate?_online discussions that?focused on > ICT policy issues at the counties, and where we interrracted with > Senator Abshiro Halake, the Vice Chair of the Senate ICT committee, we > are now happy to share the final report. > > We are grateful to all of you who contributed and made this > conversation vibrant.? > > The full Report is here:? > https://www.kictanet.or.ke/?wpdmpro=talk-to-the-senate- > priorities-2017-2022?? > > Best regards > > > Githaiga, Grace > > > > > Co-Convenor > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > Twitter:@ggithaiga > Tel: 254722701495 > Skype: gracegithaiga > Alternate email: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga > www.kictanet.or.ke > > "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged > and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my > ability to bring about change ? but in yours"---Barrack Obama. >

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Kind Reminder: Invitation to an in-person conversation with Facebook
by mwara gichanga 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

Good Evening Listers Just a kind reminder of the Facebook in-person conversation with Ebele who promised Listers that she would be available to discuss the issues around facebook's role on concerns raised around consumer data mining in Kenya, The event will be on Wednesday next week May 2nd. We are still working out the details of the venue and will share with those who are interested in attending. Further, we are working on the times but will most likely settle for an afternoon session or a cocktail event. For those who are interested, kindly indicate this through sending an email to lizorembo(a)kictanet.or.ke (lizorembo(a)gmail.com) or to mwaragichanga(a)kictanet.or.ke (mwaragichanga(a)gmail.com) Warm RegardsMwara GichangaKictanet Team

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DNA + Data Protection Law
by S.M. Muraya 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

Via @JWalu Whereas governments have every right to collect any data from citizens, they should only do so under established laws that clearly balance out citizen privacy rights against government propensity for abuse. We have repeatedly argued here for a data protection law <https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-4031222-jpne6o/i…>. But the recent development can only reinforce the point that we are more than late in enacting a data protection law. https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-4495178-m0qc4d/i…

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The case for and against #deletefacebook
by Ali Hussein 24 Apr '18

24 Apr '18

Listers Hope you all had a great weekend. Here’s an interesting article on the ongoing Facebook fallout. Excerpt:- I spent the evening with a friend who is far bolder than me. Having deactivated his Facebook profile three years ago, he upped the ante this week by deleting his Instagram account. Even more drastically, he plans officially to delete his long-dormant Facebook account—the last vestige of his serfhood in Mr. Zuckerberg’s fiefdom—sometime very soon, after his girlfriend has had an opportunity to port its photos elsewhere. (He prefers offline storage.) Read on:- https://view.email.fortune.com/?qs=55840ef3733ec70e7bbf70681a1fdf4ef688af63… Regards Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad

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Concern
by Mildred Achoch 23 Apr '18

23 Apr '18

Dear Listers, I have been blocked by one Peter Cummings @CummingsThatiah for expressing concern about beshte.com. Number 6 of the beshte.com Terms and conditions says: "6.1 To be eligible for [an account] on our website under this Section 6, you must [be resident or situated in the United Kingdom]." Yet this individual posted a Tweet urging Kenyans to join beshte.com so as to earn 100,000 just for using it. I also came across this: https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?threads/beshte-com-is-a-scam.73494/ Regards, Mildred Achoch. -- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Register to participate in the 1st Global Editathon Girls in ICT
by FEM HUB 22 Apr '18

22 Apr '18

*Register to participate in the 1st Global Editathon Girls in ICT* We are organizing the 1st Global Editathon Girls in ICT on Saturday April 28 coordinated between the Women's Special Interest Group of the Internet Society and the Wikimedia Foundation on the occasion of the Day of Girls in ICT. It will be happening at eMobilis Mobile Technology Institute, Westlands at 9am to 12pm. We will have 11 nodes running in 10 countries: Mexico, Argentina, Pakistan, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya, Cabo Verde, Panama and Peru. On that day, we will edit the biographies of women: founding, pioneers, entrepreneurs, developers and leaders in technology from the region. Ladies in Tech, this is a great opportunity to learn how to edit Wikipedia pages and put more ladies on the map. I will be doing the keynote speech. Edna Karijo (my mentee :)⁩ Digital Skills Manager, eMobilis, is the lead organizer. Entry & Training FREE. Register for the Kenya node on this link, only a number of places left. https://goo.gl/forms/4J6z9hFK5LplL6cf1 Regards, Ida Ng'ang'a Chairman, Membership & Outreach Standing Committee - Internet Society President - Internet for Development Global Community Director - Regional Consortium for Development (RCD Africa) Founder - Network of Young Women Leaders (NYWL) & Fem-Hub -- Best, Ida Ng'ang'a ISOC Internet for Education Moderator Public Policy and Internet for Development Expert ida.nganga(a)internet4D.org

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Kenyans to provide DNA, house satellite data for IDs
by Sidney Ochieng 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Kenyans to provide DNA, house satellite data for IDs https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Kenyans-to-provide-DNA--house-s… First this is extremely reckless without a data protection law. Already we’re worried about how the government is using the data it does have about us and now we want to take it all and put it in one place? Second why exactly does the government need to know all of this additional data about me that they don’t currently collect? Finally, this won’t be cheap particularly with the additional data they want to collect. Who’s paying for this?

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Advice for startups
by David Indeje 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

Dear Listers, " advice for start-ups, and it’s not very fucking complicated. It’s just: Think about the impact that you want to have on your users and on the people consuming your content and do the right thing. They know what the right thing is. Discord knows what the right thing is. http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/dan-mccomas-reddit-product-svp-and-imzy-…

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