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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Sam Gatere 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Nice gesture Kai, and If you are serious I'm willing to receive and early Broadband Christmas! But will your pricing go back to normal in January? I guess what we need to hear, are the qualifications of what cheaper really means. Does it mean "more affordable" as it is now with double bandwidth for the same price? or are we talking real shillings? If we say cheaper are we looking at broadband connectivity below Kes 1000 per month or less? SammyG~ On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM, kai wulff <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> wrote: > This is a different debate about the banking system .. If you ask me, > protection of the banks caused and will continue to cause a problem. > > > > Let us stick to simple products like IP …. At least this can’t be borrowed > or bubbled .. > > > > > > As a X-Mas Present .. What would you say if I gave DSL and Butterfly for > free for December? > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke@ > lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Monday, November 30, 2009 16:40 > > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 > for US$100-500 > > > > On 30 Nov 2009, at 06:28, Crystal Watley Kigoni wrote: > > > > Regulatory bodies are designed to ensure fair play. In the case of > Internet connectivity and pricing, the demand for services has outpaced the > production. As it stands. more bandwidth is on its way via sea and air which > will naturally make prices fall. With the landing of the cables, we have a > trickle that we are counting as a landslide. It takes time to implement > capacity. Within the next year prices will fall due to market mechanism not > due to regulatory action. > > Sure but dont forget cartels sometimes are formed to keep the status quo in > competition situations. As for the markets, they have moods which are > determinant. ask yourself, why did the global financial situation not fix > itself, afterall there is still demand and supply in play? > > > > > Crystal Kigoni > > Eric here > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:59 AM, kai wulff <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> wrote: > > Define “artificial”? > > > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the “available” capacity or by the > anticipated uptake? > > > > Example: > > > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 120 seats, the cost > per passenger seat is 50 USD > > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 800 seats, the > cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a > small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight … Isn’t your cost per > passenger now 250 USD … > > > > Kai > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke@ > lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > > > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 > for US$100-500 > > > > > > Kai, > > > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject > extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, > "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges > analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this > subject. > > > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth > to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come > into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would > make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, > electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should > focus on promoting usage .. > > > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a > Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can > buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail > end .. > > > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be > usage and local content. > > > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > > > Rgds > > > > Kai > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke@ > lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 > for US$100-500 > > > > Kai, > > > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy > sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of > the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why > you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime > rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector > factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market > situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private > sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the > current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory > interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that > extension in perfect. > > > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont > negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high > prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit > like deflation … > > > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of > this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and > prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we > should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what > matters .. > > > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any > given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with > 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will > have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and > person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and > person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > > > Add software, overheads ….. > > > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list > price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the > submarine portion! > > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 > per minute at 70% > > > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO > NOTHING. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke > @lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for > US$100-500 > > > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in > collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly > (WATRA) <http://98.130.227.12/>, the German Technical Group (GTZ)<http://www.gtz.de/en/> and > also the National Communications Authority (NCA) <http://www.nca.org.gh/> at > the La Palm Royal Hotel. > > The workshop offered WATRA <http://98.130.227.12/> members the guidance > regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up > with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and > landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment > and pricing of undersea cables. > > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA <http://www.nca.org.gh/>, > Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international > bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial > fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through > things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband > networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid > economic growth in the ICT sector. > > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and > Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government > packages which would increase the social-economic development of the > citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several > years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of > the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable > operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all > within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an > estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country > at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding > respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the > current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of > $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would > provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable > and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available > international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… > > > > > -- > Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni > Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development > crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ > > "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emko%40internetresearc… > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: sam.gatere(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sam.gatere%40gmail.com > >

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

On 30 Nov 2009, at 14:30, kai wulff wrote: > This is a different debate about the banking system .. If you ask me, protection of the banks caused and will continue to cause a problem. Okay, lets discuss this in Cape Town over beer later this week, the tab is on me.... > > Let us stick to simple products like IP …. At least this can’t be borrowed or bubbled .. Agreed but can be hijacked. > > > As a X-Mas Present .. What would you say if I gave DSL and Butterfly for free for December? Sure as an experiment to see uptake over the period. Kai, I must confess, your ability to generate business with humour is impeccable.....:-) Okay, let me not miss my flight, see you in Zuma's South Africa. > > Kai Eric here > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Monday, November 30, 2009 16:40 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > On 30 Nov 2009, at 06:28, Crystal Watley Kigoni wrote: > > > Regulatory bodies are designed to ensure fair play. In the case of Internet connectivity and pricing, the demand for services has outpaced the production. As it stands. more bandwidth is on its way via sea and air which will naturally make prices fall. With the landing of the cables, we have a trickle that we are counting as a landslide. It takes time to implement capacity. Within the next year prices will fall due to market mechanism not due to regulatory action. > Sure but dont forget cartels sometimes are formed to keep the status quo in competition situations. As for the markets, they have moods which are determinant. ask yourself, why did the global financial situation not fix itself, afterall there is still demand and supply in play? > > > > Crystal Kigoni > Eric here > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:59 AM, kai wulff <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> wrote: > Define “artificial”? > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the “available” capacity or by the anticipated uptake? > > Example: > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 120 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 50 USD > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 800 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight … Isn’t your cost per passenger now 250 USD … > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > > Kai, > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject. > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > Eric here > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > Eric, > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus on promoting usage .. > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail end .. > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be usage and local content. > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > Rgds > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that extension in perfect. > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > Eric here > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit like deflation … > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what matters .. > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > Add software, overheads ….. > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the submarine portion! > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 per minute at 70% > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO NOTHING. > > Any comments? > > Kai > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… > > > > > -- > Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni > Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development > crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ > > "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emko%40internetresearc… > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

On 30 Nov 2009, at 14:17, kai wulff wrote: > There must be a balanced approach … Absolutely..... > > I am against any form of price regulation .. Not because of greed but because it does not work .. Sometimes it is necessary, the US and Europe has records on that and in recent times Asia. > > Even if an E1 was 200 USD … It is still not in the income bracket … But closer to reality thank 4.5k USD > > Currently you get 4M straight without contention for 600USD list (so 300 per E1) … Now show me the uptake and then we see what happens at the consumer end … I should be asking you that, no? > > If 90% becomes local content and we are using all the Submarine Capacity that lands … Maybe we can have unlimited internet for KSH 100,- a month? Agreed > > Going back to my example of the plane … > > > You are better off paying 50 USD for a ticket that will bring you somewhere you can create value than 25 for a trip that is wasted .. I hope you are not suggesting that international traffic is "wasted" - i would say more local traffic but international capacity is a necessary evil > > Kai Eric here > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Monday, November 30, 2009 16:31 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > There is empirical evidence to support the mass update of broadband if the market price is within the disposable income bracket. You and I had access to the TEAMS feasibility study and the pent up demand was incredible. > > The business case that changes the market adoption is "low margin, high volume" as opposed to the current "high margin, low volume". now i tack that to your example below, the A380 can take 800 seats and charge 25USD so more people can fly but because the "corporate greed" is high, we decided to fit the A320 with 120 seats so we can charge 50USD, allowing only few people to fly - that is an artificial element within the marketplace and sometime you need the big stick to bring it down. > > Look SAT3 cost an e1 $30k to the Cameroonian market and the same cable in Ghana cost en e1 $4.5k to the Ghanaian market. The A320 is flying at 10% on the first flight in Cameroun because of the price to the market, not because the market is not anticipatory. > > MainOne has not landed and yet they have gone public with an e1 between $500 and $600, are they not also in business to make money? > > Eric here > > > On 30 Nov 2009, at 02:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > Define “artificial”? > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the “available” capacity or by the anticipated uptake? > > Example: > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 120 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 50 USD > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 800 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight … Isn’t your cost per passenger now 250 USD … > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject. > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > Eric here > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus on promoting usage .. > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail end .. > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be usage and local content. > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > Rgds > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that extension in perfect. > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > Eric here > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > > Eric, > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit like deflation … > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what matters .. > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > Add software, overheads ….. > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the submarine portion! > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 per minute at 70% > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO NOTHING. > > Any comments? > > Kai > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Crystal Watley Kigoni 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Regulatory bodies are designed to ensure fair play. In the case of Internet connectivity and pricing, the demand for services has outpaced the production. As it stands. more bandwidth is on its way via sea and air which will naturally make prices fall. With the landing of the cables, we have a trickle that we are counting as a landslide. It takes time to implement capacity. Within the next year prices will fall due to market mechanism not due to regulatory action. Crystal Kigoni On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:59 AM, kai wulff <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke> wrote: > Define “artificial”? > > > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the “available” capacity or by the > anticipated uptake? > > > > Example: > > > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 120 seats, the cost > per passenger seat is 50 USD > > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 800 seats, the > cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a > small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight … Isn’t your cost per > passenger now 250 USD … > > > > Kai > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke@ > lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 > for US$100-500 > > > > Kai, > > > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject > extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, > "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges > analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this > subject. > > > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth > to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come > into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would > make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, > electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should > focus on promoting usage .. > > > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a > Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can > buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail > end .. > > > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be > usage and local content. > > > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > > > Rgds > > > > Kai > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke@ > lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 > for US$100-500 > > > > Kai, > > > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy > sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of > the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why > you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime > rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector > factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market > situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private > sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the > current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory > interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that > extension in perfect. > > > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont > negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high > prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > > Eric, > > > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit > like deflation … > > > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of > this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and > prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we > should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what > matters .. > > > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any > given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with > 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will > have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and > person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and > person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > > > Add software, overheads ….. > > > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list > price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the > submarine portion! > > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 > per minute at 70% > > > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO > NOTHING. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > > > > > *Von:* kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto: > kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff <kictanet-bounces%2Bkai.wulff>=kdn.co.ke > @lists.kictanet.or.ke] *Im Auftrag von *Eric M.K Osiakwan > *Gesendet:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > *An:* kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Betreff:* [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for > US$100-500 > > > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in > collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly > (WATRA) <http://98.130.227.12/>, the German Technical Group (GTZ)<http://www.gtz.de/en/> and > also the National Communications Authority (NCA) <http://www.nca.org.gh/> at > the La Palm Royal Hotel. > > The workshop offered WATRA <http://98.130.227.12/> members the guidance > regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up > with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and > landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment > and pricing of undersea cables. > > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA <http://www.nca.org.gh/>, > Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international > bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial > fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through > things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband > networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid > economic growth in the ICT sector. > > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and > Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government > packages which would increase the social-economic development of the > citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several > years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of > the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable > operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all > within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an > estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country > at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding > respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the > current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of > $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would > provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable > and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available > international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/crystal%40voicesofafri… > > -- Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Kai, There is empirical evidence to support the mass update of broadband if the market price is within the disposable income bracket. You and I had access to the TEAMS feasibility study and the pent up demand was incredible. The business case that changes the market adoption is "low margin, high volume" as opposed to the current "high margin, low volume". now i tack that to your example below, the A380 can take 800 seats and charge 25USD so more people can fly but because the "corporate greed" is high, we decided to fit the A320 with 120 seats so we can charge 50USD, allowing only few people to fly - that is an artificial element within the marketplace and sometime you need the big stick to bring it down. Look SAT3 cost an e1 $30k to the Cameroonian market and the same cable in Ghana cost en e1 $4.5k to the Ghanaian market. The A320 is flying at 10% on the first flight in Cameroun because of the price to the market, not because the market is not anticipatory. MainOne has not landed and yet they have gone public with an e1 between $500 and $600, are they not also in business to make money? Eric here On 30 Nov 2009, at 02:59, kai wulff wrote: > Define “artificial”? > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the “available” capacity or by the anticipated uptake? > > Example: > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 120 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 50 USD > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour “wet” and has 800 seats, the cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight … Isn’t your cost per passenger now 250 USD … > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject. > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > Eric here > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > Eric, > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus on promoting usage .. > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail end .. > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be usage and local content. > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > Rgds > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that extension in perfect. > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > Eric here > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > Eric, > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit like deflation … > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what matters .. > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > Add software, overheads ….. > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the submarine portion! > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 per minute at 70% > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO NOTHING. > > Any comments? > > Kai > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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ICDL Directive a slap in the face
by robert yawe 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

It was with shock and disbelieve when I read an article in the dailies indicating that the government has decided to use the Microsoft certification ICDL (International Computer Driving License) as the approved application compliance qualification. This is definitely a slap in the faces of all those associations and government agencies that have over the years developed generic curriculum for applications certification. How does the government frustrate all this efforts for years just to wake up one morning and literally cripple our institutions because a "donor" as offered "free" services. It is a fact that in 90% of cases the first sniff of cocaine that an addict took was given to them for free, due to its highly addictive properties the dealer knows that it will only be a matter of time before that free sampler becomes a hooked client. The Kenya National Examination Council (KNEC), University of Nairobi, Computer Society of Kenya and even Pitmans have tried and tested curriculum for computer applications competency training. What makes this more practical that the ICDL is that they are generic and not product specific. In addition they are cheaper to administer and examine all most of them require is just an upgrade so that exams can be administered online further reducing costs. The cost of examinations for ICDL is Ksh. 24,000/- at an exchange rate of 78/- to the dollar, this is equivalent to 1 year tuition for a University degree program. Are we really serious about encouraging ICT education and effective utilization? "When they came for my neighbour I said nothing, when they came for my brother I said nothing and when they came for me there was no one to say anything" We said nothing when Cisco moved in a set up so called Cisco Academies yet we all knew that this was wrong as Cisco teaches a product specific routing implementation based on their operating system which denies the graduand an open mind when it comes to providing solutions. Microsoft was stopped from providing software and their certification programs to schools in the same way that depo provera was withdrawn from public health facilities in the US & Europe yet like a herd of sheep we adopt all blindly. Can we please stop this madness! Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Evans Ikua 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

To a large extent, I don't believe so much in regulation. I would rather free market economics. But this is only to a certain extent. With the situation we are faced with, I think its close to what we hear from KENIC. That they cant sell their .ke TLDs at a low enough price because they don't have the numbers to sustain their operations. How about they lower the prices and get the numbers? Same thing for the Bandwidth. Lower the prices, get the numbers and the money and content will follow. Haven't we learned anything from the mobile sector? -- Evans Ikua Linux Professional Association of Kenya Tel: +254-20-2250381, Cell: +254-722 955 831 Eagle House, 2nd Floor Kimathi Street, Opp. Corner House www.lpakenya.org Quoting kai wulff <kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke>: > Define "artificial"? > > > > Did you divide the cost of a cable by the "available" capacity or by the > anticipated uptake? > > > > Example: > > > > If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour "wet" and has 120 seats, the cost > per passenger seat is 50 USD > > If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour "wet" and has 800 seats, the > cost per passenger seat is 25 USD > > > > So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a > small (and again .. What is small) margin? > > > > What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight . Isn't your cost per > passenger now 250 USD . > > > > Kai > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im > Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 22:27 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for > US$100-500 > > > > Kai, > > > > I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. > > > > I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively > prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply > bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis. > At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject. > > > > The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth > to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come > into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would > make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, > electrification etc are all in the value chain. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > > > > > > Eric, > > > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus > on promoting usage .. > > > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a > Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can > buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don't regulate the retail > end .. > > > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be > usage and local content. > > > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > > > Rgds > > > > Kai > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im > Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for > US$100-500 > > > > Kai, > > > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy > sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of > the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why > you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime > rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector > factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market > situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private > sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the > current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory > interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that > extension in perfect. > > > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont > negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high > prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > > > Eric here > > > > > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > > > > > Eric, > > > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit > like deflation . > > > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, > uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices > don't come down . Result: People will wait longer .. > > > > I still don't understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we > should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what > matters .. > > > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any > given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with > 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will > have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let's argue 700KSH per day and > person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and > person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > > > Add software, overheads ... > > > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list > price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the > submarine portion! > > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 > per minute at 70% > > > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO > NOTHING. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Kai > > > > > > > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im > Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for > US$100-500 > > > > A two day workshop called "Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable", in > collaboration with <http://98.130.227.12/> West Africa Telecommunications > Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the <http://www.gtz.de/en/> German Technical > Group (GTZ) and also the <http://www.nca.org.gh/> National Communications > Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > > The workshop offered <http://98.130.227.12/> WATRA members the guidance > regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up > with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and > landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment > and pricing of undersea cables. > > A Member of the Board of Directors of <http://www.nca.org.gh/> NCA, Solomon > Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, > coupled with NCA's plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic > cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like > WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks > throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic > growth in the ICT sector. > > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government's > decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which > would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner > never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the > telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable > operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all > within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated > three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx > systems to become operational, adding that "They will be adding > respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the > current capacity of international bandwidth in the country". > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of > $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would > provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable > and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available > international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > > Director > > Internet Research > > www.internetresearch.com.gh > > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > > Fax: +233.21.258811 > > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Kai, I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject. I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis. At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject. The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education, electrification etc are all in the value chain. Eric here On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote: > Eric, > > Please read carefully what I wrote. > > I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus on promoting usage .. > > Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don’t regulate the retail end .. > > I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be usage and local content. > > More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors. > > Rgds > > Kai > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 21:34 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > Kai, > > The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... > > You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that extension in perfect. > > My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. > > Eric here > > > > On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > > > Eric, > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit like deflation … > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what matters .. > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > Add software, overheads ….. > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the submarine portion! > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 per minute at 70% > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO NOTHING. > > Any comments? > > Kai > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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Re: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 29 Nov '09

29 Nov '09

Kai, The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime rate" based on the commoditized calculation..... You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime. Am a private sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that extension in perfect. My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. Eric here On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote: > Eric, > > This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit like deflation … > > Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this, uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices don’t come down … Result: People will wait longer .. > > I still don’t understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what matters .. > > With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with 256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute. > > So my question: What is your staff cost? Let’s argue 700KSH per day and person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week). > > Add software, overheads ….. > > So now, what is the cost of communication? > > Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load .. > > 5160960 call minutes a month > > That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the submarine portion! > We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute > > Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08 per minute at 70% > > You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO NOTHING. > > Any comments? > > Kai > > > > > > Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan > Gesendet: Sunday, November 29, 2009 20:35 > An: kai.wulff(a)kdn.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Betreff: [kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500 > > A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. > The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. > A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. > He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. > > Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. > > According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. > > Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. > > He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. > (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan > Director > Internet Research > www.internetresearch.com.gh > emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh > 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North > Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 > Fax: +233.21.258811 > Cell: +233.24.4386792 > > > > > Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500
by Eric M.K Osiakwan 29 Nov '09

29 Nov '09

A two day workshop called “Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable”, in collaboration with West Africa Telecommunications Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the German Technical Group (GTZ) and also the National Communications Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel. The workshop offered WATRA members the guidance regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment and pricing of undersea cables. A Member of the Board of Directors of NCA, Solomon Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth, coupled with NCA’s plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic growth in the ICT sector. He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government’s decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner never witnessed in this country over the past several years. Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all within a 24 month period. According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx systems to become operational, adding that “They will be adding respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the current capacity of international bandwidth in the country”. Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of $100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome. He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables. (Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle) Eric M.K Osiakwan Director Internet Research www.internetresearch.com.gh emko(a)internetresearch.com.gh 42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031 Fax: +233.21.258811 Cell: +233.24.4386792

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