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My 2 cents on settling the Mau evicties
by robert yawe 08 Dec '09

08 Dec '09

After reading the presidents Kenyatta day speech he actually set the agenda meeting the 2030 objectives. I feel that if the government has the good will they should start by applying this issue in Mau. Extract from President's Kenyatta day speech "For the better part of our history, Kenya has been a rural-based economy, with a few cities and towns. These lifestyles and livelihoods cannot sustain us much longer under the double pressure arising from relentless rapid population growth and the changing climate. This reality will make it very difficult for the bulk of our people to draw their sustenance from farming or livestock keeping. We have no choice but to plan for rapid urbanization and rural eco-cluster settlements. We must plan for several large metropolitan areas in various parts of the country which will serve to hold the bulk of the population. We must also plan for a highly effective rural cluster eco-programme for both agricultural and pastoral communities." Those evicted from the Mau should be resettled in a new settlement providing all the necessary amenities. They can then be employed to replant the trees while the government in association with the private sector creates new employment opportunities that would absorb them after completion of the afforestation exercise and also their children as they come of age. I asked a friend who plants maize in the region and she tells me that they make a net profit of 100,000/- per year from a 14 acre farm. This equates to about 9,000/- per month, so someone with 5 acres can only make 3,500/- per month from maize. If the government hired them at a salary of 10,000/- and provided a mortgage scheme for the houses we can resolve this issue while also making strides towards 2030. There are 1,500 people which translates to about 400 families, all can be accommodated on a 10 acre plot in 3 bedroom flats. The construction of this units using precast concrete structures would take less than 12 months and would cost 1 billion including all amenities. Lets urbanize as the President is advocating and stop sending people back to rural settings that are unsustainable. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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[Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Kenya: Is New Internet Exchange Necessary?]
by alice 07 Dec '09

07 Dec '09

Kenya: Is New Internet Exchange Necessary? Fiona Asonga 7 December 2009 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ opinion The recent announcement of the plan to set up a government run internet exchange point may look well intended on the face but also one that could either be ill-informed or driven by latent rationale if the arguments set forth in the media is anything to go by. Contrary to the global best practice where governments support the existing IXPs run and managed by the industry, the new effort by the government is largely viewed by the industry as being unnecessary and inefficient use of its resources if not an escapist approach on prioritising and tackling the key industry concerns by the ministry. Ranking top among the raison d'etres by the ministry to install Government Internet Exchange Point (GIXP) was the need to enhance network security among its peer agencies and mitigate against any threats of malicious hackers or data miners that most advocates would ignorantly want to attribute to third party routing connections. Amazingly, it is only this year that KIXP was actually ranked as the third fastest growing IXP globally based on the amount of its handled traffic, this being largely as a result of the activities by its peering members to grow internet use within the country and address the concerns of customers for a more secure online environment. With an estimate of Sh30 billion worth of business transactions handled via the KIXP on a daily basis, the security of the infrastructure and its content can never be overemphasised. Through the facility the general public is able to access government services through various existing ISP who together with government peer at a central IXP. Indeed as correctly posited here before, with no solid details on how the Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) intends to institute security features that include deep packet inspection or demonstration of the government's capacity to develop its own data encryption, many in the know will still agree that security is easily a function of post infrastructure and human resource development. This means that by having a peering point alone the agencies will not be fortified against any potential security problems if other aspects are not adequately addressed. Others have actually pointed out that the majority of security problems highlighted by the government come from within an organisation, rather than from any external sources. Contrary to any misconstrued belief of a Public Private Partnership arrangement or management of the venture, KIXP was essentially established in 2000 by the Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya (TESPOK) as a value add service to its members and is therefore solely owned by TESPOK. It operates as a licensed service and is the only Regulator Licensed Internet Exchange Point in Africa. Currently the Kenya Internet Exchange Point has back up locations at Chancery Building with Internet Solutions and Mombasa at the SEACOM landing station. Prior to the massive investment that saw its establishment as Kenya's pioneer internet exchange point, all local traffic was exchanged in Europe and USA. Today internet users are benefiting not only from a more than tenfold reduced latencies, but also from a reduced monthly cost for Inter ISP transit. Additional benefits include ISPs Savings resulting from the delayed need to upgrade international capacity links as well as improved local connectivity through fibre optic and high speed wireless (FSO) connectivity. As a result this has encouraged more local content as it became cheaper. Currently, there are 28 peering members and others still working on their joining requirements. It will be helpful to note that KIXP provides direct connections to members of the industry and organisations handling critical services of benefit to the general public. All other entities not licensed by the communications Commission of Kenya (CCK) must go through the existing operators in line with current CCK regulations. The Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) for instance through its online Customs Clearing System also known as "Simba System" makes use of the KIXP for efficient service delivery. The Simba System alone which has been estimated to collect an average of half a billion Kenya Shillings daily is heavily dependent on the KIXP. The new Integrated Tax Management System (ITMS) is also heavily supported by KIXP to reach the ordinary end user who has to file returns online through their respective ISP. Currently measures have already been taken with regard to ensuring the security of the Kenya Internet Exchange Point as a key and strategic communication resource for the country. // /Asonga is CEO, Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya (TESPOK)./ // // /Source : Business Daily/ > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:20:08 +0200 > From: africann-request(a)afrinic.net > Subject: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 > To: africann(a)afrinic.net > > Send AfrICANN mailing list submissions to > africann(a)afrinic.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > africann-request(a)afrinic.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > africann-owner(a)afrinic.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AfrICANN digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 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Jon Postel > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Khaled Esheh <khaleds(a)lttnet.net> wrote: > > > Dear Anne-Rachel > > > > We are intersted in hosting the training here in Libya ? so what is the > > next step? > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Khaled Esheh > > Technical Director > > Libya Telecom & Technology > > Tel: 00218-21-3400020 Ext: 7102 > > Mobile: 00218-92-3039911 > > Fax: 00218-21-3400039 > > Email: khaleds(a)lttnet.net > > http://www.ltt.ly > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Anne-Rachel Inné <annerachel(a)gmail.com> > > *To:* africann(a)afrinic.net ; AfTLD Discuss <aftld-discuss(a)aftld.org> > > *Cc:* Arnold <arnold(a)seychelles.net> ; adel(a)afcomnetwork.net ; Carmelo > > Modu Ebuka <carmelo.modu(a)gmail.com> ; manga.gilles(a)yahoo.fr ; Ismael Otban > > Ali <otban(a)intnet.dj> ; benchoppy(a)ict.gov.sc ; mabuzar(a)gov.sz ; Adamou Iro<a_iro(a)yahoo.fr>; Kuppusamy > > Vijayakumar <kk.vijay(a)rura.gov.rw> ; ko_hilaire(a)yahoo.fr ; charles Gaye<charlesg1075(a)yahoo.com>; Ebrima > > D. Jobe <ebouj2001(a)yahoo.com> ; adam(a)neoip.com ; Marwan Maghur<marwan(a)lttnet.com> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:02 PM > > *Subject:* [AfTLD-Discuss] Call for local hosts for 2010 IPv6 Training > > > > [AfriNIC-announce] Call for Local Hosts for 2010 IPv6 Training > > From: > > Mukom Akong TAMON <tamon(a)afrinic.net > > Add to Contacts To: announce(a)afrinic.net; member-discuss(a)afrinic.net > > ------------------------------ > > Dear all, > > With your assistance, we were able to organise eight (8) workshops in 2009 > > (including the workshop held in Dakar during AfriNIC 11). We were however > > unable to conduct planned trainings in Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia > > and Mali and had to postpone a scheduled training in Gambia to 2010. We are > > therefore calling on your support once again for organizing training > > workshops in 2010. We intend to conduct training (LIR and IPv6) in the > > following countries: > > > > South Africa > > Zimbabwe > > Swaziland > > Gambia > > Mali > > Sierra Leone > > Liberia > > Rwanda > > Equatorial Guinea > > Central African Republic > > Niger > > Seychelles > > Djibouti > > Eritrea > > Libya > > > > > > We already have potential Local hosts for Gambia and Mali (more > > collaborators are still welcome). > > > > As a local host for your country, your responsibilities shall be to: > > 1. Secure a venue for the training (AfriNIC will pay for it) > > 2. Provide broadband Internet access plus wireless connectivity in the > > training room for the duration of the training. > > 3. Provide multimedia projectors, white-board and white-board markers. > > 4. Assist with facilitating visas for trainers and locating suitable hotels > > for them. > > 5. 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Registration of SIM
by Solomon Mburu Kamau 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

Following the Presidential Declaration made in October 2009, concerning the registration of Subscriber Identification Module (SIM) by the end of December 2009, what has been the progress so far? I've not heard anybody, from the PS Ndemo, CCK or mobile phone firms informing the public on how to go about registering their SIMs! The end of the period is quickly closing in and, if this is not addressed, we might have so many of the subscribers losing their SIM cards come 1st January 2009 (on assumption that the Decree will not be extended). I would be grateful Dr. Ndemo could shed some light on the progress made on this, and for the Telcos to inform the public where and how to register their SIM cards. Thanks -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke Sent from Kenya

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New channel for Big brother to keep an eye on all of us :-)
by Judy Okite 06 Dec '09

06 Dec '09

Hi All, this is an interesting read! US agency's balloon hunt tests internet accuracy By Emilio San Pedro BBC News <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8397649.stm> *The US defence research agency has used 10 red balloons in a contest to assess the accuracy with which information spreads on the internet.* The giant moored weather balloons were launched on Saturday morning at 10 undisclosed locations across the United States. More than 4,000 groups competed to be the first to pinpoint all 10. A team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Mit) won the challenge and a prize of $40,000 (£24,000). Johanna Jones, a spokeswoman for the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa), said that beyond the actual contest, the aim was to see whether social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter should be seen as credible sources of information. Darpa is no stranger to innovative uses of technology. The agency - which is part of the US defence department - played a pivotal role in the creation of the internet itself. That original network was created at the behest of the US government as a way to access and distribute information in the case of a catastrophic event. Forty years on, with the internet in full swing, the same agency was keen to see if the power of social networking sites - with their tens of millions of users - could be used as a credible source to alert authorities of impending disaster or unrest on US soil. Kind Regards, -- "It is time,Africans moved from a knowledge based society to a wise society" Dr. Nii Quaynor

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.ke domain costs too high
by robert yawe 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Today I renewed by .ke domain under duress, it costs me 3 times the cost of registering a .anythingelse, and even higher if I register for 5 years or more. Maybe I am a kumbafu, what does it actually take to actually run KENIC, from the charges it must require a super computer with runs off a nuclear powered grid. Can someone please enlighten me on this issue. I listened to the KENIC director indicate that this cost was as a result of the low uptake, so why punish the choir, can we have the charges dropped or sell KENIC to safaricom or KDN who can then give us domain names for "free" and recover from the bandwidth costs? This issue of an independent registrar is bull and we need a quick solution to this, then all we do is lament about the slow uptake of technology and the reliance on yahoo and google. We need to stop all this domo, domo and sort out the issues that matter, death to KENIC. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Re: [kictanet] Registration of SIM Safaricom Zain Yu, Orange
by Barrack Otieno 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

To the best of my knowledge i registered just after the 2002 general elections not sure if i need to register again we need some education as Solomon say's, maybe Safaricom, Zain , YU and Orange could do us a favor and send us sms's reminding us of the status of our registrations better still can the details used in registering for Mpesa and ZAP apply in this case, i believe the SIM cards can be registered automatically. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Following the Presidential Declaration made in October 2009, concerning the > registration of Subscriber Identification Module (SIM) by the end of > December 2009, what has been the progress so far? > I've not heard anybody, from the PS Ndemo, CCK or mobile phone firms > informing the public on how to go about registering their SIMs! > > The end of the period is quickly closing in and, if this is not addressed, > we might have so many of the subscribers losing their SIM cards come 1st > January 2009 (on assumption that the Decree will not be extended). > > I would be grateful Dr. Ndemo could shed some light on the progress made on > this, and for the Telcos to inform the public where and how to register > their SIM cards. > > Thanks > > -- > Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the > same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous > generosity! > > http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com > http://smiley2.wordpress.com > http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > > > > > > > Sent from Kenya > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… > > -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com www.afriregister.co.ke ICANN accredited registrar. Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications forbasiccomputer usage
by timrick＠gmail.com 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

Robert, If they do am ready to also offer to help.Thats a nice ideas.From skunkworks,quite some nice ideas of techies meeting together and have a bar camp and all.And since not all of us can make it to maybe a planning meeting,people could meet virtually to share ideas. I have interests in participating in e-government,but I don't have any pointers.If we can have virtual conference on such then would be great. I think I support you on this one. -----Original Message----- From: robert yawe Sent: 02/12/2009 5:20:16 pm To: timrick(a)gmail.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications forbasiccomputer usage Hi David, We need to move forward and set the stage for the rest, all we need is to talk to KDN, OrangeTelkom or Safaricom to setup a conferencing server and we can have this brainstorm virtually. We where all up in arms when the cabinet went to Mombasa on a 11 million bonding session. Most of them are over 60 so they need a siesta after every 2 hours on activity, they don't know any better so lets show by example. If one of those mentioned above is game then I am ready to offer my time and skill to run the virtual conference. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Wed, 2/12/09, DAI <svarrer(a)digitalageinstitute.com> wrote: From: DAI <svarrer(a)digitalageinstitute.com> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications forbasiccomputer usage To: "LEO" <onyango.liech(a)gmail.com>, bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Cc: "robert yawe" <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk>, ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net, "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans(a)gmail.com>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:45 Dear all, How about that we call for a grand meeting where we will do systematic brainstorming on the curriculum for the future ICT educations here in Kenya ? There are various very effective and systematic brain storming methods which can be used in large groups to reach consensus and conclusions in only 2-3 days. How do we gather the necessary financial support to make such an event take place for instance in January, we would in that case advertise the event in the Digital Age Journal, January 2010 issue, and we would report from the event in the February 2010 issue. I would propose that we simply meet, every one who have a positive interest in making Kenya a preferred outsourcing destination for High Tech - for instance in Software Development - and then we talk and systematically record what Email truncated to 2,000 characters :::0:b8511ea0cf1ec32366f0e61c654a429c:7d0:x:::

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[Fwd: [reformsnow] An Illustrated draft Constitution - Read in 10 mins]
by alice 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

For those following the constitution process, Please see attached. Discussions on the same taking place on: reformsnow(a)lists.reformsnow.or.ke http://lists.reformsnow.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/reformsnow best alice -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [reformsnow] An Illustrated draft Constitution - Read in 10 mins Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 00:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: alice(a)apc.org CC: reformsnow(a)lists.reformsnow.or.ke Dear all, please find attached the draft constitution in pictures for easy reading. It is not a substitute for the actual draft constitution and the actual draft should be used to obtain further clarity where it is required. regards, Wamuyu _______________________________________________ reformsnow mailing list reformsnow(a)lists.reformsnow.or.ke http://lists.reformsnow.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/reformsnow

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage
by robert yawe 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

One Micheal Joseph called Kenyans peculiar and as I have mentioned before in my posts, I am a true Kenyan peculiar to other humans and for this reason if no other ICDL will not meet my requirements because I do not fit into the world demographic. A wheel is supposed to be round, why would I try to make a square one as so that I can arrive at the logic behind a round wheel? We have 3 or more mature curriculum on IT proficiency so there is absolutely no reason for us to import another. LEt us remain peculiar and be proud of it, we are not an asian tiger nation because we are not asian, we are an african leopard, cheetah, lion or hyena. Ours should be to develop a curriculum for export to east and central africa not ape (literally) others. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 --- On Tue, 1/12/09, joseph james <jjngatia(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: joseph james <jjngatia(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage To: "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans(a)gmail.com> Cc: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 7:09 Dear Evans, I might choose to agree and differ on many points in your discussions. One for the ICDL option, its independent and has world recognition and the question is simple; Can KIE develop a curricula that achieve such similar status? Yes and No. So while we appreciate the flat world, the consumers are now better placed to choose what they want to buy, indulge, watch, learn and so forth. 4 out 5 Kenyans are certifications/paper- focused; most kenyans believe in getting certified and this is one major virus we need to clean. Again, most would want to get a certifiction that comes with international recognition in over 146 countries (work anywhere and for whoever). This cert virus has resulted from the CPF culture (CRAM-PASS- FORGET culture) that most pupils and students acquire all through the 8:4:4 curriculum. Most Governments have recognized ICDL, Kenya is just joining the pack. I believe in standards and innovating; Asia has prospered and left many African nations way behind, by adapting and adopting western world technological advancement. I think this is what we should do, or had done earlier. If we started earlier on and built standards and focused on quality training, we would have our certification and maybe share with the rest of continent if not the world. We were beaten to that by ICDL organisation. We need not recreate the wheel now. May be what should be the question main is finding measures on how how to reduce costs of pursuing ICDL from above Kes. 30,000 to may be Kes.14,000. It's possible and we may try adopting eLearning technologies. (I should have said I am an eLearning champion) So while we can train using ICDL for now, we can embark on building our own curriculum that beats ICDL. It's just a matter of time and with zero politic on such processes. I am a real optimist by all means; but for now while most Kenyans are hooked to foreign everything basic; food, clothes, shelter, media, culture, technology, education... Its upon organized groups making us proud with homegrown solutions that have a global feel and can be exported to other nations. It will be a Kenyanization effect. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans(a)gmail.com> wrote: I remember there was some discussion some time back about training standards. What was the outcome of that meeting? Anyone on this list who has some info? This is really pathetic. What is it with Kenyans and Foreign goods? Does the ICDL or any other certification for that matter, add any knowledge to someone? Is knowledge in a piece of paper or in the delivery of the training? Do you have any idea about the amount of money we lose to the UK for IMIS every year? While an individual has the right to choose what to take, I think its the epitome of ignorance to have the Government imposing on poor people an expensive end user qualification. Like I have said before, those living in Nairobi have forgotten that the country is bigger than Nairobi. We cant therefore see how someone cant afford 30k for an end user certificate. So how about the poor people who live on a dollar a day? Are we saying that they will never get jobs because they cant prove their end user skills? We need to wake up! On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:48 AM, anthony. musunji <tonzo1(a)gmail.com> wrote: I think Evans has introduced a valid dimension in this argument .Since Accountants have been able to develop a valid and recognised certification format, why can't the local IT proffessionals \ fraternity develop or promote its own certification .I am also keen to hear what KASNEB has to say about this development . My 2 cents Anthony Musunji On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: Evans, You may be pleased to know that the Kenya Accountants and Secretaries National Examinations Board (KASNEB) in 2006 introduced two examinable courses( 1 Professional Level("CICT"), 1 Technician Level"ICTT"). Last week, KASNEB Secretary and CEO kindly send me copies of the syllabus -(commencement June 2009) I have copied this message to KASNEB CEO with the hope that they may be interested in joining this list at least for the purpose of this discussion? Kind regards, Alex On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Evan's argument was regarding the cost of certification, not platform - and > whether KIE can develop a local certification instead of 'sending forex > abroad' > > On Nov 30, 2009 8:58 PM, "DAI" <svarrer(a)digitalageinstitute.com> wrote: > > ICDL is platform independent. Period. > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Evans Ikua > To: ke-users > Sent: >> > Monday, November 30, 200... > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers -- Kind regards, James J Ngatia Q: I could not, at any age, be content to take my place by the fireside and simply look on. Life was meant to be lived. Curiosity must be kept alive. One must never, for whatever reason, turn his back on life. ELEANOR ROOSEVELT: -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers

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Breaking News: South Africa's appeal court reject's claim by Telkom South Africa and fines $500 million
by Edith Adera 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

Independent research can make a difference in curbing anti-competitive behaviour and driving down costs. So watch out, those still keeping the Internet prices high! ====== Telkom was really trying to dig up unsubstantiated evidence against RIA's ability to conduct unbiased research in front of the Supreme Court of Appeal last week. Fortunately, justice remains on our side! For the judgment, I have attached the copy or you can find it at the weblink below: http://www.supremecourtofappeal.gov.za/judgments/judgem_sca_2009.html Unfortunately, they misnamed IDRC again on page 13... A short synopsis can be found on LIRNE Asia's blog: http://lirneasia.net/2009/11/south-african-appeal-court-affirms-role-of-ind… South African appeal court affirms role of independent think tanks In a major win for think tanks seeking to bring evidence to the policy process in developing countries, the Supreme Court of Appeal in South Africa, by its decision The Competition Commission of South Africa v TELKOM (Case No: 623/2008), has unequivocally overruled the claims of bias leveled against the LINK Centre, then headed by our colleague Alison Gillwald (now heading Research ICTs Africa). In addition to getting its odd argument rejected, Telkom will have to pay a 3.7 Billion Rand fine plus costs. Ouch! Alison is the featured dinner speaker at CPRsouth4 in Negombo, Sri Lanka, on December 7th. I am sure she will speak to this court case and the challenges facing policy intellectuals in environments like ours. The relevant excerpt of the judgment is given below. Three principal grounds for the alleged perception of bias are relied upon. First, the Link Centre received funding from some of the complainants in the SAVA complaint. This is disposed of quite easily. The Link Centre is a research and training body in the field of information and communications technology, policy, regulation and management. It is the only major organization in South Africa that focuses on these matters. It has published internationally and presented papers at conferences. While it is correct that the some of the complainants funded the Centre, the Link Centre also received funding from the government and from Vodacom, a company in which Telkom had a 50 percent shareholding. Its largest funding during the time of the investigation was from Vodacom. Telkom was approached for funding as well but declined to contribute. The donations from industry participants were less than a fifth of local donor contributions and a fraction of the multimillion Rand foreign donor contribution from the Canadian International Development Research Centre (IDRC). The second ground is that, the advisory board of the Link Centre included various people who were closely involved with the complainants at the relevant time, in particular, the co-president of SAVA and the co-president of ISPA. Thirdly, the authors of the Link Centre report made statements and pronouncements that were highly critical of Telkom prior to being employed to prepare the report. These statements are to the effect that Telkom's profits were outrageous; that ICASA's decisions were regularly overturned because of Telkom's influence; and that Telkom by using its monopoly power sought to retard growth of the value-added network and internet sectors and so interfered with the effectiveness of South African business. For example, Ms Gillwald, one of the authors of the Report, stated that 'a consequence of Telkom's unchecked dominance has also had a chilling effect on the partially-liberalised value-added services segment of the telecommunications market, which includes the internet service providers.' None of the statements or publications ascribed to the authors of the report was denied: however, all claims of bias were rejected, and Ms Gillwald deposed that the views of the authors of the report were founded on research.

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