October 2018 - KICTANet

Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet - Wish List ?
by Barrack Otieno 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Listers, This is indeed good news. We have a lot of hope in Mucheru and Victor Kyalo industry veterans who have indeed worked their way through the trenches. Most importantly we hope to see the return of a multi stakeholder form of engagement in the sector which we have been yearning for in a while. I think as a sector we might need to prepare a wish list for our new leaders and most importantly commit to work with them towards achieving their mandate. The reshuffle is timely still it comes at the end of the year and will allow us to start 2016 on a new slate. Thank you Best Regards On 11/24/15, GG via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > +1 Grace. > > Sending them positive energy! And glad that the two were among the KICTANet > founders. > Rgds. > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: 24 November 2015 22:35 > To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > Cc: "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)" <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet > > One of the issues (I think issue no.3) in the President's speech was > accessibility of leaders to wananchi. With Joe and Kyalo I think we shall > have better ears. > > Congratulations! > > May they pass the vetting. > > Regards, > On 24 Nov 2015 21:29, "Evans Ikua via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> @Ngigi you are right. But in the current dispensation, a CS is still >> expected to be a technocrat, as opposed to the days of yore when minister >> was politician. So they will both be at home in their respective >> positions. >> Especially Victor as the accounting officer with his many years in >> government. That's the right position. >> >> Evans >> On Nov 24, 2015 9:17 PM, "Waithaka Ngigi" <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Evans, >>> >>> Joe Mucheru & Victor Kyalo are old hands in. KE ICT. Both have been >>> entrepreneurs and then at some point moved on to various ventures. So we >>> shouldn't go wrong ‎with either. >>> >>> However, what's the better fit? Mucheru at CS, Victor at PS or the other >>> way round? Victor CS, Mucheru PS? >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Alliance Technologies >>> www.at.co.ke >>> *From: *Evans Ikua via kictanet >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:50 PM >>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> *Cc: *Evans Ikua >>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet >>> >>> Congrats Hon Joe! That's a great choice for the ICT industry. Well out >>> H.E. >>> >>> Ikua >>> On Nov 24, 2015 8:45 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations to Joe Mucheru! >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>>> development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>> bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, >>>> do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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KICTANet Preliminary Observations on Technology Deployment in Kenya’s General Election 2017
by Grace Githaiga 17 Sep '20

17 Sep '20

Listers Greetings. Please find attached an interim report on KICTANet's observation on the technology deployment of the electoral process from a user end perspective. We are working an elaborate report and will share in due course. We thank all our observers and all members who contributed to all the discussions on the topic of technology use in the elections. Best regards Githaiga, Grace Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com<mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grace Githaiga Twitter: @ggithaiga Skype: gracegithaiga Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga ...the most important office in a democracy is the citizen. So, you see, that’s what our democracy demands. It needs you!----Barrack Obama.

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Save the Date: the Kenya Internet Governance Forum 2018 (July 19, 2018)
by Grace Githaiga 25 Jun '19

25 Jun '19

Listers Greetings! This is to let you know that the Kenya Internet Governance Forum 2018 is planned to take place on Thursday July 19, 2018. I will send a call shortly to invite volunteers to help in organizing the forum. The organising committee lead by Victor Kapiyo (he will Chair for the 2nd term) will share further details on venue, topics, speakers with us as the process evolves. Looking forward to seeing as many of you on that day. Best regards Githaiga, Grace Co-Convenor Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) Twitter:@ggithaiga Tel: 254722701495 Skype: gracegithaiga Alternate email: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga www.kictanet.or.ke "Change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged and come together to demand it. I am asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about change – but in yours"---Barrack Obama.

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Re: [kictanet] ict practitioners bill is back
by Ali Hussein 02 May '19

02 May '19

Dear Bwana CS KICTANet NEVER asked KEPSA to handle engagements on our behalf. We engaged KEPSA to work as a team. Period. Never, did we abdicate our responsibilities to KEPSA because we are not KEPSA members. If KEPSA gave you that belief then I'm afraid that you were misled. And KEPSA should apologise for misleading you. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, Chiromo Road, Westlands, Nairobi, Kenya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Ali Hussein, > > This is the reason I keep off this list. You are calling me a liar and yet > your team asked KEPSA to handle the engagements in this matter. > > With all respect going forward let's follow the agreed engagements between > government and private sector. > > Ahsante Sana! > > JM > > > On 17 Dec 2017 11:17, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Bwana CS > > With all due respect. You are a senior government official and shouldn’t > peddle untruths. > > KICTANet HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF KEPSA. > > We have collaborated only once on the ICT BIll. Most of us don’t believe > KEPSA is representative of the wider ICT Industry. > > We welcome dialogue with your ministry and KEPSA on this. We are happy to > be included in the conversation. We however CANNOT endorse a dialogue and > discussions we are not party to. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a > habit." ~ Aristotle > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 17 Dec 2017, at 9:04 AM, Julius Njiraini via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Digital forensic expert is involved in investigation of fraud, abuse, > embezzlement, larceny, conversion of any digital device, records and > process. The report is supposed to be presented in courtroom and testify as > expert witness. He is also supposed to corroborate evidence with other > segment of crime scene using relevant laws including evidence act, criminal > procedures code and cyber crime laws as best international laws in other > countries > On Dec 17, 2017 8:32 AM, "Julius Njiraini" <njiraini2001(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for your enlightenment. Am just concerned about new emerging >> fields like information security and forensics which is mainly concerned >> with digital cyber crime and evidence presentation in courtroom. These is >> especially concerns for computer security and forensics professionals >> On Dec 17, 2017 6:12 AM, "Joseph Mucheru via kictanet" < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> The absence of dialogue and relying on media reports is a recipe for >>> discord. The current views, sentiments and concerns raised in the group are >>> justified only because there is no dialogue. Kicktanet is part of KEPSA >>> <https://kepsa.or.ke> who we are in constant dialogue even on this >>> topic. Going forward, the need to dialogue through the agreed channels is >>> key; >>> >>> So let me try and give a position on where we are; >>> >>> - I did state that we will need a Practitioners Bill and even >>> clarified to media it would not be the current one >>> - There is currently NO Bill in parliament. The last one lapsed and >>> we would need to start afresh >>> - The bill identified a need/gap in our sector that requires some >>> action, especially since ICT is at the heart of the Governments development >>> agenda >>> - The Industry was opposed with the method/solutions proposed by the >>> Bill but not the fact there is a gap >>> - Other Industries have self regulating bodies and if our sector is >>> to grow, we need to get organised and set this up. Why should government >>> have to do it? >>> - We are exporting our skills regionally and internationally and a >>> need to standardise and demonstrate our skills is key. This is because we >>> are not working in isolation, we are competing with other countries and >>> Kenya must be able to demonstrate consistent and quality skills -- today we >>> are blacklisted on various online jobs platforms because of a few bad >>> apples, while we know we have some of the best talents, we are also losing >>> tenders and business because we have not conformed to specific >>> international standards and so the rating of our products/services falls >>> short. (KBS is working on the standards) >>> >>> And for the accusations... >>> >>> - It was a private members bill and not sponsored by Government (We >>> opposed it in its current form - you know that, otherwise google it). >>> - Responding to questions from the sector does not amount to a >>> "roadside decision", considering the level of engagement we have had on >>> this issue >>> - The Government is there to serve the people of Kenya and not just >>> the sector in isolation >>> - Skills Rating systems used by platforms such as Kuhastle.com, >>> upwork.com., cloudfactory.com, monster.com..etc are examples of ways >>> people are able to build and demonstrate skills both technical and otherwise >>> - I have had engagements on this topic with KEPSA (ICT Sector >>> Committee <https://kepsa.or.ke/sector-comittees/>) - Mike Macharia >>> being the Chair >>> - I saw in social media many of you opposed to ICTAK >>> <http://www.ictak.or.ke/> being enjoined in the supreme court >>> presidential petition, but none came out (Kicktanet included) to >>> support/represent the sector, which was at the heart of the dispute. At the >>> very least ICTAK <http://www.ictak.or.ke/> was willing to come >>> forward. >>> - Similar to the Law Society, The Supreme Court should have chosen >>> the ICT experts from the ICT Industry body? >>> >>> My advice would be for the sector to take the lead and suggest how this >>> need/gap of* "SKILLS RATING" standards etc.. *can be addressed. We are >>> on the same side. If industry does not take the lead, then Government will >>> step in. As it stands, industry has various bodies and you need to agree on >>> how to engage amongst yourselves. We are going to be successful and so let >>> us push in the same direction. >>> >>> Finally, today the official engagement between government and the ICT >>> sector is through KEPSA <https://kepsa.or.ke/> . (KICTAnet, TESPOK, >>> KITOS etc.. are members and even when we engaged on the ICT Practitioners >>> bill, the sector was represented by KEPSA, when we met MPs). >>> >>> The last discussion on Tuesday 14th December 2017 between KEPSA and the >>> Ministry covered the following topics; >>> >>> 1. ICT Policy >>> 2. Kick-off Industry meetings >>> 3. Bills / Opinions - ICT Practitioners Bill >>> 4. PDTP <http://icta.go.ke/digitalent/> + Ajira Digital >>> <http://ajiradigital.go.ke/> (Jobs) >>> 5. Flagship Projects >>> 6. Constituency Development Hubs >>> <http://www.ict.go.ke/constituency-to-get-an-innovation-hub/> >>> 7. ICTA Engagement with Counties >>> 8. Enterprise Kenya >>> 9. Blockchain >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Andrew Alston via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So – having seen an article in the standardmedia in which elements of >>>> what I stated below were quoted – and to which there seem to have been >>>> responses – I now need to comment further: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> (Article found at: https://www.standardmedia.co.k >>>> e/business/article/2001263257/techies-oppose-move-to-introdu >>>> ce-new-ict-watchdog) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Mucheru, however, denies that the Bill will lock out experts without >>>> formal training insisting the reverse will be the case. “This Bill will >>>> benefit the people who have been working in technical capacity for years >>>> but have not acquired certificates,” he explained. “If they can demonstrate >>>> their proficiency to the Institute then they can get certified and widen >>>> the scope of jobs they can bid or apply for.” * >>>> >>>> So – I have a question – What will be the method of demonstrating >>>> proficiency and how will this be tested – and what will it cost – and how >>>> long will it take. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Now – let me break the questions down a bit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. The ICT field is vast – are you going to test proficiency in >>>> programming? In networking? In security? In database administration? In >>>> desktop support? In Linux? Freebsd? Microsoft? Solaris? AIX? What is the >>>> test going to be – and who is going to administer these tests >>>> 2. What makes an industry body more capable of testing proficiency >>>> than Cisco, Juniper, Huawei or any of the other vendors – the bill does * >>>> *NOT** cater for industry standard certification outside of formal >>>> education – it simply is not in there – and if you are not going to accept >>>> these and are going to have this industry body determine proficiency – we >>>> need to know how this will be done and how the people testing proficiency >>>> will be qualified to do it – and in what fields they are qualified to test >>>> proficiency. >>>> 3. What is the cost of this testing of proficiency – does an >>>> individual who has certified as a CCIE at the cost of thousands – and in >>>> some cases tens of thousands – of dollars suddenly need to pay more to >>>> demonstrate something that he has clearly already demonstrated? Who will it >>>> be paid for? How will the money be utilized? Will this be included in the >>>> license fee for the first year? Or will this suddenly cost extra so >>>> someone can make some money? >>>> 4. How does does it take to “demonstrate proficiency” – and if I >>>> bring in someone from outside to train my staff in a new field of >>>> technology – is he going to be made to sit some kind of exam? Or pay some >>>> kind of fee before he can upskill Kenyans? Because – lets be real – that is >>>> not going to happen – it will be the death of bringing in people to impart >>>> knowledge. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me be blunt – more than half the authors of the RFC’s within the >>>> IETF would not qualify under the bill as it stands – this means they would >>>> have to “demonstrate” their proficiency – despite the fact that they have >>>> their names on Internet standards – and if people expect these individuals >>>> to sit exams or prove to people that they know what they are doing – >>>> despite the knowledge having been clearly demonstrated (which is why they >>>> are being flown in in the first place, to train Kenyans in skills that are >>>> not available in the country so that those Kenyans can continue to further >>>> upskill and lift up the industry) – you can kiss goodbye to having cutting >>>> edge people coming into this country – it simply won’t happen – and it will >>>> be Kenya that loses out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then to comment on this: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Mucheru adds that the Government has held several engagements with >>>> practitioners in the sector on the provisions of the Bill. * >>>> >>>> Correct – there was massive engagement – and the bill was largely >>>> defeated after the industry said it was broken – after people on this list >>>> said it was broken – after it was slammed left right and centre – so yes – >>>> there was engagement – but the article is wrong about the fact that the >>>> engagement agreed that this bill in its current form was a good idea or >>>> represented the correct solution. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *“There was consensus that we need to establish a professional body to >>>> regulate the industry,” he said. * >>>> >>>> I have no problem with the concept of a professional body – I have >>>> major problems with forcing a situation where people who have potentially >>>> decades of experience have to suddenly “prove” their skills via some >>>> entirely undefined means at some undefined cost to a bunch of people who >>>> may or may not have anywhere close to the experience or knowledge of the >>>> person being tested. If we said that we had a professional body that people >>>> could register to – and they needed to be registered – and in the event of >>>> *substantiated* complaints the individual could be deregistered and >>>> blacklisted – I would have no problem. It is the arbitrary and >>>> unsubstantiated and undefined criteria for registration that I take >>>> exception to – and that I believe could result in expensive legal >>>> challenges. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please – do not get me wrong – I do not begrudge anyone who has a >>>> desire to genuinely root out the bad apples and clean up the industry and >>>> remove scam artists and fraudsters. I think that is a noble and pure >>>> objective that should be pursued. I however dispute the fact that this >>>> bill is the right way to go about it – and I dispute the fact that >>>> university degrees have anything to do with competence in this industry – >>>> particularly with the rate that technology evolves – because an individual >>>> doing a 3 year degree who is learning specific technologies in his first >>>> year – by the time he graduates – those technologies are history – and when >>>> he walks into the industry – he is having to self study it all again >>>> ANYWAY. Let me give you examples of technologies that did not exist a year >>>> ago in any real form: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Segment routing – the foundation of network routing going >>>> forward and the replacement to MPLS – how do I know this – because I’ve had >>>> my hands in crafting the specifications and doing a lot of the beta testing >>>> for it – so who is going to test proficiency here – it changes the game – >>>> and the only people qualified to teach it – or gauge the proficiency in it >>>> – do not themselves qualify under this bill to be registered. >>>> 2. Network telemetry processing – first introduced in limited form >>>> in Q3 2015 – and only now becoming main stream – but within a year of it >>>> being main stream – it will replace standard network monitoring entirely – >>>> who is going to teach that with a university degree? >>>> 3. Which university degree teaches BGP? BGP-LU? ISIS? Network >>>> segmentation? IPv6 addressing? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The list is endless – these are things that cannot be learnt through a >>>> degree – they are learnt through industry standard certification or >>>> self-skilling by reading documentation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So, Mr Mucheru – please – do not read me wrong – I have tremendous >>>> respect for the regulator in this country – and it is testament to how well >>>> the Kenyan industry and the regulatory environment here works that today – >>>> Kenya has higher average mobile broadband speeds than either the US or >>>> South Africa or a lot of other places. It is testament to the regulatory >>>> environment here that we have the high-speed networks we do – and that the >>>> pricing is as low as it is – because the industry is competitive and open >>>> and innovative. This list of things the regulator has gotten right in this >>>> country is long - I do however plead with you, the bill as it stands would >>>> break the industry that all of us – yourself – myself – and so many others >>>> have worked so hard to build. I am NOT against a professional body – I am >>>> NOT against formalizing things – but I beg you – do not walk down the road >>>> of this current bill in its current form – it will be death to this >>>> industry in this country. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew Alston >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> >>>> *Date: *Monday, 4 December 2017 at 01:24 >>>> *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>> *Cc: *Liz Wanjiru <lizwanjiru(a)gmail.com> >>>> *Subject: *RE: [kictanet] ict practitioners bill is back >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have to say – personally I cannot think of a worse piece of >>>> legislation that I have seen in recent history. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let us look at the net effects of this and the problems with it: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Large companies bring in consultants or external people where >>>> necessary to supplement capacity, to train and upskill Kenyan staff etc, >>>> while those guys are here, even for a week or two, they are compensated, >>>> and my reading of this bill is – this would be illegal – because you’d have >>>> to get every consultant you bring in accredited and licensed first – which >>>> is impractical in the extreme >>>> 2. The list of highly skilled people with 20+ years experience who >>>> would not qualify for accreditation under this bill is extensive, globally >>>> and within Kenya – this bill completely stops any form of knowledge >>>> transfer from those individuals and in fact will force a situation where >>>> Kenyan’s who wish to learn from some of the biggest names in the industry >>>> would be forced to go internationally to get that knowledge, rather than >>>> bringing those people in to train locally >>>> 3. It forces Kenyans who have spent years learning and honing their >>>> skills without university qualifications out of work and could well result >>>> in large scale job losses looking at the number of highly skilled >>>> individuals I know of who are working without qualifications >>>> 4. It prevents private companies from making what are normal >>>> business decisions – who they hire and who they pay. That is problematic >>>> in the extreme – in any normal situation if a private company hires staff >>>> that don’t perform – those staff either get fired or the market rejects the >>>> company and the company disappears – standard market dynamics – in this >>>> case – if a company finds extremely talented people they may be forced into >>>> a position where they have to hire less skilled people because someone >>>> can’t meet some accreditation requirement. >>>> 5. The bill has no recognition of prior experience – no recognition >>>> of those who have published papers and are world recognized experts – does >>>> not specify what the “recognized” universities are – does not take into >>>> account industry standard certification (CISSP/CCNA/CCIE/CCDP/JNCIE/JNCIP/JNCIA, >>>> the list is endless) >>>> 6. May well end up in the constitutional court when it deprives a >>>> host of people who have spent their lives working in this industry and have >>>> no other options for a career of the ability to earn a living >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The bill relies on the belief that a university qualification some how >>>> makes you better than those without – it’s reasoning that has been >>>> disproved globally for years and years and years – and it flies in the face >>>> of the global industry and the way the ICT industry has worked since the >>>> day it began. It is damaging to the industry in Kenya – it is damaging to >>>> the growth prospects of the economy as a result – it is damaging to the >>>> people of Kenya – and it will destroy the position that Kenya is in as one >>>> of the leaders of the ICT industry on the continent (Kenya already has the >>>> highest average broadband speeds on the continent and significantly better >>>> ICT infrastructure than you will find even in South Africa – it is doing so >>>> well – why break a system that is proving functional?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I really hope this does not pass – and if it does – will be curious to >>>> see the court challenges and how they play out – but I think this is >>>> madness personally – and in the name of stopping a few bad individuals – >>>> penalizes the entire country and will destroy an industry that employs >>>> thousands. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston= >>>> liquidtelecom.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Liz Wanjiru via >>>> kictanet >>>> *Sent:* 04 December 2017 06:43 >>>> *To:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston(a)liquidtelecom.com> >>>> *Cc:* Liz Wanjiru <lizwanjiru(a)gmail.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] ict practitioners bill is back >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> While trying to push such laws shouldn't they be looking at >>>> credentialing people without formal ICT schooling but have the experience, >>>> knowledge and skills to back them? These people have talent and positively >>>> contribute in the industry. Some countries have learning institutions >>>> credentialing professionals based on their body of work and so long as they >>>> can demonstrate this they are awarded the degrees or other government >>>> approved certifications. Here is an example of such >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Link >>>> <http://www.ara.ac.nz/study-options/centre-for-assessment-of-prior-learning-…> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Liz >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> I wonder how some of the ground breaking technology companies - such as >>>> for instance Google Kenya, can operate if this bill is passed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Watila Alex via kictanet < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> EricKigada: Kenya’s controversial ICT Practitioners Bill 2016 to be tabled in parliament again >>>> >>>> techmoran.com/kenyas-controv… >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/EricKigada/status/937309893954031616 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet >>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/ >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>>> ailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. 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Re: [kictanet] TV signals turned off
by Dorcas Muthoni 22 Dec '18

22 Dec '18

Hahaha 😂 😂 😂, that is all I can tell you Ali. Have a great weekend! On Feb 2, 2018 5:20 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Dorcas You smartly skirt the issues I have raised. But let me address the issue of the media. During the electioneering period who was abusing the Internet most to spread virulent lies and propaganda? Was it the media or politicians? And here I mean politicians on both sides of the divide. My dear sister, wake up and smell the coffee.. you continue to defend the indefensible and one day we will be here defending you. As I said this list has a habit of being an equal opportunity offender. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113> Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 2 Feb 2018, at 4:06 PM, Hillary Cheserek via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Agreed. ------------------------------ *From: *"Dorcas Muthoni" <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> *To: *"hcheserek" <hcheserek(a)kenet.or.ke> *Cc: *"KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent: *Friday, February 2, 2018 3:48:22 PM *Subject: *[kictanet] TV signals turned off Thanks Hillary, Correct, this is not a justification discussion but an opportunity to show that both government and media should be accountable and responsible at all times. I am surprised at how much leeway the media has been given even on this list when it comes to being accountable and responsible. So many journalists mean well, but how many can set the headline? Several years ago, I asked a senior news editor "as you set the political agenda in the country (what many call power of the media ), do you see Nairobi becoming something like Tokyo or Kabul?" He was dismayed. That person is still heading news as far as I know. On Feb 2, 2018 3:31 PM, "Hillary Cheserek" <hcheserek(a)kenet.or.ke> wrote: > I have seen the video and it is really informative. However, I doubt if > Kenyans will take it seriously. They have been trained to think differently > and to be defensive at all times. The video does not justify switching off > TV signals as well. > > Regards > *Hillary K. Cheserek* > Senior Network Engineer > KENET > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *To: *"hcheserek" <hcheserek(a)kenet.or.ke> > *Cc: *"Dorcas Muthoni" <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent: *Friday, February 2, 2018 3:15:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] TV signals turned off > > Ali, view this video https://www.facebook.com/nasdaily/videos/ > 977587759060043/ to get an idea why media is harmful to civilians. Pay > attention to the last 30 seconds. > I am sure you appreciate this bit as well. > > No one one should acquire a licence to use the spectrum, only to > predominantly serve personal and paid interests. I guess you know that only > three out of the 43 TV stations are affected by this. They have all mainly > grown on the premise that politics sells in Kenya. Who sets the agenda, > they do. It is common sense that politics in Kenya thrives on tribalism. > > If you think the content (especially political) served by the 3 TV > stations is doing more good than harm, i think the exact opposite. > > This list enables different perspectives to be shared while shaping the > industry. We cannot afford to lean on one side. > > And by the way, i think our constitution still needs lots of work, we > cannot blindly say that it is the best we can ever have. And what about > democracy, i am not sure of any perfect democracy anywhere in the world, > neither do i think that it is really working in many parts of the world. > > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: > >> Dorcas >> Yours is a one sided conversation. Why are you not talking about our >> leaders who have disappointed the nation more than the press can ever do. >> >> Look at what is happening right now. The use of the instruments of state >> to circumvent a court order. When those who are supposed to protect us and >> uphold the law are the ones who are circumventing it where does this leave >> us as a citizenry? >> >> Why do you not talk about that? >> >> This list is an equal opportunity offender. Most of us here do not >> necessarily subscribe to any particular political pursuit when it comes to >> ICT issues. We discuss issues here that affect the ICT Sector and how it is >> perceived by local and foreign investors. You tell me whether what is >> currently happening is good for this country. >> >> Kiswahili twasema - Ukiona mwenzako anyolewa chako kitie maji.. (if you >> see your friend being shaved, please prepare your head because you will >> surely be next). >> >> My earnest and sincere plea to the government is not to take this country >> on a slippery slop of disrespecting our democracy and constitution. This is >> our Govt irrespective of our political divide. >> >> Regards >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a >> habit." ~ Aristotle >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:41 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Brother Ali, Trust me, the media has let me down. There were days when >> it was a true fourth estate but today, the same rot that has eaten many >> sectors is well alive and blooming in the media. >> >> Please share your perceived risks to national security the >> self-inauguration poses to you and me. One sided risk assessment is >> self-destructive. >> >> On Feb 1, 2018 3:47 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> >>> Semantricks my dear sister.. A play with words doesn’t detract from the >>> fact. Who more than politicians have turned this into personal interest? >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113> >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but >>> a habit." ~ Aristotle >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 1 Feb 2018, at 12:02 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> @Ali and @Kiama, the word is politricks. >>> >>> Reporting politics obsessively for personal and paid interest. This is >>> where I fault the media. They know themselves. >>> >>> This trend does not benefit the professional media or the followers but >>> rather brings selfish political games to your channel. >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2018 9:50 AM, "Mutemi wa Kiama" <eddiekiama(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dorcas? >>> >>> Don't report politics? Don't report corruption, mismanagement, theft of >>> public resources, abuse of office? Don't report LIFE in Kenya is what you >>> are saying. You want to stay in your ignorance perch and enjoy your comfort >>> zones. Thing is, you won't know what hits you when it crumbles. >>> >>> #LestWeForget: When local TV stations were arbitrary switched off during >>> digital migration, notwithstanding that the global deadline was over a year >>> away providing room for negotiation & structured migration, the CS in >>> charge of information/ICT was... drum roll... incidentally, one Fred >>> Matiang'i!!! YaHoo! >>> >>> Let's keep feeding the pet python by doing nothing, after all, we are >>> not media. No way internet can be shut down surely! >>> >>> Ni mimi, >>> >>> Edwin Kiama >>> >>> >>> Thoughts become things... choose the good ones! >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> Social Innovator, Social Justice Entrepreneur, Catalyst, Human Rights >>> Defender, Social Accountability Champion, Rhize Coach >>> >>> #DevolutionIsRevolution Champion >>> >>> The Wanjiku Agenda Kenya Foundation (WAKenya) >>> Ordinary, Fearless Kenyans. >>> >>> Sauti Ya Wanjiku Social Movement www.sautiyawanjiku.com >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/wanjikurevolutionkenya >>> >>> https://twitter.com/WanjikuRevolt >>> >>> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+WanjikuMapinduzi/posts >>> >>> http://www.scribd.com/wmkenya >>> >>> >>> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can >>> change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever >>> has." ~Margaret Mead >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 Feb 2018 09:02, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> @Peter >>> >>> This is very true and I know to survive in the media business today is >>> not business as usual. >>> >>> Instead of focusing on politricks, claiming it sells why not wake to the >>> call of disruption. >>> >>> We have all lost government business across many sectors, many bills >>> remain unpaid in public procurement, now it's time to create new value >>> propositions to the undeserved or new relevant content. >>> >>> If you check the Google search statistics on top Kenyan user searches, >>> that would provide a pointer on some content areas worth airtime with >>> relevant local context. >>> >>> By the way, why is KTN HOME still broadcasting? Because they focus is >>> on family entertainment? I am sure several others are on air. >>> >>> Wake up call to your mainstream media houses producers? Over emphasis on >>> politricks especially during the news hours will eventually cost the media. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2018 4:38 PM, "Peter Wakaba via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Let me give a bit of background on why media owners may be taking the >>>> quiet road on this one. After President Uhuru Kenyatta was sworn in in >>>> 2013, and thereafter he named his cabinet, the Ministry of information >>>> moved forward with an idea that had been floating around for a while. To >>>> streamline government spending on advertising and several associated areas >>>> under one body. Meant to create synergy through bulk and then save >>>> government money, the move saw government then channel all advertising >>>> cash through the Government Advertising Agency. >>>> >>>> Between January and April of 2016, this body billed just over a cool >>>> ksh.4B. >>>> >>>> Then they moved a step further and created the 'My Gov' pullout which >>>> initially ran in the two national dailies, plus the people and the star. >>>> Henceforth all government advertising apart from very critical adverts were >>>> channel into this project with the news being delivered by the Kenya News >>>> Agency. The ministry then pays one of the newspapers to print and >>>> distribute as a pullout. >>>> >>>> Needless to say, over this period, advertising revenue has shrunk >>>> dramatically to the point of crippling operations in some newsrooms. To >>>> turn the screws even further, the Ministry has then stopped printing and >>>> publishing this pullout regularly but is now doing so in 'random' fashion >>>> on a weekly basis in any of the said newspapers. The last I saw it was in >>>> the Star Newspaper. >>>> >>>> While no doubt the above move has helped with government austerity, the >>>> media is having to tighten its belt tighter every day. (Not that anyone >>>> owes us anything) >>>> From a team of ten just five years ago, I often have to work with just >>>> one person and maybe an intern to deliver hours of news. (and companies, >>>> like our are all looking to shrink their traditional businesses). >>>> >>>> When you mix the above issues with the general corporate governance >>>> issues that majority of the Kenyan economy faces, there is cause for worry. >>>> And while companies are indeed innovating in order to stay relevant, I >>>> daresay the level of attrition is way faster. >>>> >>>> Then through in lack of depth, lack of experience (because inexperience >>>> is easier to hire and pay) and the rise of fake news and you have a melting >>>> pot that should have everyone worried. >>>> >>>> And while I agree with Ali Hussein that our diligence will eventually >>>> pay off, I fear for the hordes of millennials who may not be as patient. >>>> >>>> In closing, very few companies are willing to take on Government, or >>>> even larger corporates like Safaricom anymore >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @ Victor >>>>> >>>>> It is not clear if any of the media houses has taken legal action. >>>>> However, the media attended a press briefing this afternoon where they were >>>>> informed that the stations would "remain off air until the government has >>>>> completed investigations into the "swearing-in" of Opposition leader Raila >>>>> Odinga." >>>>> >>>>> Read on: TV stations will remain shut until investigations end, says >>>>> Matiang'i >>>>> https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/01/31/tv-stations- >>>>> will-remain-shut-until-investigations-end-says-matiangi_c1706915 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Video footage:VIDEO: 3 media houses to remain off-air until government >>>>> concludes investigations - Interior CS Fred Matiang'i >>>>> https://twitter.com/ntvkenya/status/958674927405580289 >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Githaiga, Grace >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 31-01-2018 at 15:40 Victor Kapiyo via kictanet wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Has any media station gone to court on this? >>>>> >>>>> Or are they perhaps pursuing ADR methods to resolve the issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Victor Kapiyo* >>>>> >>>>> Partner | *Lawmark Partners LLP* >>>>> >>>>> Advocate of the High Court of Kenya,Commissioner for Oaths & Notary >>>>> Public >>>>> >>>>> *Suite No. 8, Centro House, Westlands, Nairobi |**Web: >>>>> www.lawmark.co.ke* >>>>> ==================================================== >>>>> >>>>> *“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig >>>>> Ziglar* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 January 2018 at 14:53, Harry Delano via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Actually, Ali am equally outraged that am not seeing sufficient, >>>>> copiou, outpouring amounts of outrage from the mainstream media, or we >>>>> being hoodwinked..? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We seem to be the ones who look more outraged at this, strangely..! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Jan 2018 14:46, "Admin CampusCiti via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kuwa mpole Ndugu. [image: :-)] >>>>> >>>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>>> >>>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>>> >>>>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>> >>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn:http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>> >>>>> Blog:www.alyhussein.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>>>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 1:50 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Peter. I hope you wrote us this email while in a highly charged >>>>> meeting with your colleagues and those from the other houses as regards to >>>>> how you are going to march to both the CA and the MoICT to demand the >>>>> restoration of your transmissions and an explanation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You just tell me where and when we are to start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If not, I have no sympathy for you guys. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 January 2018 at 11:53, Peter Wakaba via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Good morning, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My conundrum for the day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I work for KTN NEWS >>>>> I had scheduled two interviews today afternoon. >>>>> >>>>> One on modern commercial large scale farming and another on T-vet >>>>> (Technical and Vocational Education and Training) and youth. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Being off air on most platforms and under government shutdown, one of >>>>> my interviewees, parastatal Chief, no less, has developed cold feet and >>>>> cancelled or postponed. He is not sure how to behave and whether his >>>>> turning up would be misconstrued. (Two weeks of work out of the window). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My second interviewee, a focused and passionate lady PS. we have been >>>>> planning and cancelling for 3 months now. When I last got her into studio, >>>>> what was supposed to be a one hour insightful discussion was interrupted by >>>>> a presidential rally by the current President. She got just 3 minutes on TV >>>>> for her trouble and left veeeery angry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After much haggling, we finally rescheduled. AND THEN YESTERDAY >>>>> HAPPENED. Despite the switch off her handlers insist we keep our end of the >>>>> bargain. >>>>> >>>>> If I host her, will I still be 'kow towing' to the same government >>>>> that is trying to literally throttle my bread and butter ( if I may borrow >>>>> from two expressions). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For both them and I, there is a lacuna on how to behave in these >>>>> instances. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And yet, my audience still needs to be educated and entertained. Oh >>>>> what interesting times we live in. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Eric David via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We are living a lie. The Channels are off. Who's answerable? >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+mwau=outlook >>>>> .com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Kevin Kamonye via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:45 AM >>>>> *To:* Eric Mwau >>>>> *Cc:* Kevin Kamonye >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] TV signals turned off >>>>> >>>>> A good and insightful read Wangari. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The rising power of Facebook, Google and Twitter and their >>>>> opportunistic business models. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I can directly correlate the challenges that the world media is facing >>>>> to these corporations. They have basically invalidated the current media >>>>> company model in such a way that they sell content that they do not produce >>>>> themselves and to sweeten the deal further - they do not have to pay for >>>>> any operator licenses.They need to be classified as media companies - at >>>>> the very least. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is why you see our media here being so desperate to the point >>>>> that they almost have no choice but to cooperate with the government >>>>> because it is the biggest source of their revenue. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Next in line to be cannibalized is the Telecom industry bu this is a >>>>> discussion for another day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On another note, it is shameful for Kenya to be mentioned with the >>>>> below countries, and in such a context. Does anyone have specific >>>>> information on what the Soros foundation is doing in Kenya. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That leaves the local battlegrounds in Africa, the Middle East and >>>>> Central Asia. My foundations are actively engaged in all of them. We are >>>>> particularly focused on Africa, where would-be dictators in Kenya, Zimbabwe >>>>> and the Democratic Republic of Congo have perpetrated electoral fraud on an >>>>> unprecedented scale and citizens are literally risking their lives to >>>>> resist the slide into dictatorship. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 January 2018 at 23:30, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet< >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> While haggling here on democracy using the lens of TV media, yes, the >>>>> cyber is also on the spotlight. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.georgesoros.com/2018/01/25/remarks-delivered- >>>>> at-the-world-economic-forum/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *The IT monopolies* >>>>> >>>>> I want to spend the bulk of my remaining time on another global >>>>> problem: the rise and monopolistic behavior of the giant IT platform >>>>> companies. These companies have often played an innovative and liberating >>>>> role. But as Facebook and Google have grown into ever more powerful >>>>> monopolies, they have become obstacles to innovation, and they have caused >>>>> a variety of problems of which we are only now beginning to become aware. >>>>> >>>>> Companies earn their profits by exploiting their environment. Mining >>>>> and oil companies exploit the physical environment; social media companies >>>>> exploit the social environment. This is particularly nefarious because >>>>> social media companies influence how people think and behave without them >>>>> even being aware of it. This has far-reaching adverse consequences on the >>>>> functioning of democracy, particularly on the integrity of elections. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Might it be possible to replace with TV companies, aka broadcasters >>>>> >>>>> "This is particularly nefarious because (social media companies)TV >>>>> companies, aka broadcastersinfluence how people think and behave without >>>>> them even being aware of it. This has far-reaching adverse consequences on >>>>> the functioning of democracy, particularly on the integrity of elections. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Be blessed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards/Wangari >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa -"Being of the Light, We are >>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of >>>>> God on Earth". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 30 January 2018, 20:25, Harry Delano via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Dorcas, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There could be specific qualms against the media fraternity, but how >>>>> about effective checks and balances which I suppose a majority of us would >>>>> agree are in place to quite a degree including costs for breach.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am afraid yours is sanctioning a ' throw-out-the-baby-with-the- >>>>> bath-water' approach. When done with media, next will be this very cyber >>>>> space me and you are thriving on that will be switched off. Then what..?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jan 2018 19:13, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Media freedom must come with responsibility which currently is not the >>>>> case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Call me when you organize a forum to hold the media to account. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2018 6:55 PM, "Liz Orembo via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @Dorcas, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We missed a step forward towards media freedom and freedom to access >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Politics aside, I also felt for those who had to keep calling people >>>>> who had internet or could afford bundles to stream the event. There are >>>>> other ways of making the media accountable other than denying citizen >>>>> access to information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2018 18:43, "Denis Mutinda via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I’m assuming they will turn off those signals forever? >>>>> >>>>> Media will be on Govts case for the next few weeks. Extinguish one >>>>> fire, start another one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Denis Mutinda >>>>> >>>>> President, ISACA Kenya >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jan 2018, at 18:31, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Other than the perceived illegality, what did we actually miss. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I stopped watching these stations two years ago. Most journalists >>>>> agenda set based on personal or paid interests and there is tonnes of >>>>> evidence to this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am surprised at how so many pretend not to know this \uD83D\uDE14 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By the way, my business and customers are gravely tired of this >>>>> political crap. I assure many people are. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And subscribers are paying to serve the kind of delusional content >>>>> screened (I feel especially for kids). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kenyans, if you want a better country, fix yourself first. Complaining >>>>> about the less 500 senior government officials many of whom you would be >>>>> pleased to replace and benefit like they do is the highest level of >>>>> hypocrisy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Controversial as this may sound, it's the high time each of us took >>>>> ownership by fixing yourself first. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2018 6:02 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kevin and all >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I won't dwell on the tribal or ethnic part of this issue. Let's rather >>>>> address the illegality and unprecedented nature of what is going on right >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ALL MAJOR TV STATIONS HAVE GONE DARK. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why? Is it because of a technical issue? Or was it a deliberate >>>>> attempt to muzzle free speech and expression. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I understand some goons even went to a particular ISP and tried to >>>>> block certain IP addresses. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This level of intimidation and muzzling of the press is unprecedented. >>>>> Any Kenyan of sound mind and body will be against it. Irrespective of the >>>>> political divide. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not even in the darkest days of the KANU Dictatorship has the press >>>>> been treated in such a cavalier manner while the supposedly 'friendly' >>>>> press continue with their business as usual. As I write this Citizen, NTV >>>>> and KTN News are still dark. The rest are operating. WHY? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> One day someone will be held responsible for this. Impunity cannot >>>>> last forever. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>>> >>>>> *Principal* >>>>> >>>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>>> >>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113 <0713%20601113> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>> >>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn:http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alih kassim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing, >>>>> >>>>> Chiromo Road, Westlands, >>>>> >>>>> Nairobi, Kenya. >>>>> >>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are >>>>> purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >>>>> organizations that I work with. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet< >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This may explain why Wangusi had to go. There is a Kemei who is acting >>>>> DG. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mwendwa, to me this reads like ethnic profiling. Not acceptable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 January 2018 at 16:47, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This may explain why Wangusi had to go. There is a Kemei who is acting >>>>> DG. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We thought Kenya is ahead of other countries to experience a shutdown. >>>>> Think again. We are still in January, and 2022 is 5 years away. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The media too thought they were above board and could not be harassed >>>>> like normal Kenyans. Now the tide has turned. They were complacent in many >>>>> ways before, during, and after the elections. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "... and when they finally came for the media, there was nobody to >>>>> speak up for them" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 30, 2018 2:46 PM, "Tracy Kadesa Adolwa via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have been unable to livestream since Baba arrived, is it me only? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tracy Kadesa, >>>>> >>>>> LL.B ,University of Nairobi. >>>>> >>>>> Dip KSL >>>>> >>>>> legalwalk.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet< >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The government simply did not want Kenyans to witness the huge crowds >>>>> that have turned up. AND they are huge. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The BBC and Aljazeerah are offering periodical updates live as well. >>>>> >>>>> KTN NEWS livestream is also still on, though intermittent. >>>>> >>>>> And at this point, it is out of Both Raila and Kalonzo's hands. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Politics aside, the CA physically disconnected terrestrial links at >>>>> Limuru before then systematically switching off most other channels of >>>>> broadcast, fibre connections and satellite are intermittent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is so sad to see happen in my country Kenya. And at so many >>>>> levels. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will set aside the constitution and the illegality of the situation >>>>> because am not a constitutional expert of any kind. What I can comment on >>>>> is that this is such a strategic failure by the perpetrators. It is >>>>> actually so shocking that they cannot actually see that this only serves to >>>>> add more fuel to the fire. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is this the caliber of people that we have at the top of our Industry? >>>>> Are they not able to advise the government of how futile it is to attempt >>>>> to shutdown communication in today's world??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As for the Kenyan Media - you deserve this. You are a greedy and self >>>>> serving lot. Just the other day we heard recordings of a certain journalist >>>>> being threatened. Where was the collective response? Shame on you too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 January 2018 at 13:34, Wathagi Ndungu via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A creeping back of autocracy. This is outside the perimeter of the >>>>> constitution. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Joy Wathagi Ndungu >>>>> >>>>> Co-Founder, Digital Grassrootswww.digitalgrassroo ts.org >>>>> >>>>> Phone number :*+254706690282* >>>>> >>>>> Alternate Email 1: *joy.w@digitalgrassroots.org*AlternateEmail2:*jndungu@stu >>>>> dentsforliberty.org* >>>>> >>>>> 8638-00300 Nairobi, Kenya >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.digitalgrassroots.org >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/digit algrassroots/ >>>>> >>>>> https://twitter.com/digigrassr oots >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jubilee can go ahead and switch off the Sun, FaceBook & Twitter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At the height of the protests in Egypt, the dictator president, Hosni >>>>> Mubarak, decided to shut down the Internet as well. That did not stop >>>>> Egyptians from remaining Egyptians. >>>>> >>>>> Who triumphed? >>>>> >>>>> Just because an ostrich decides to bury its head in the sand so as not >>>>> to see what is happening around doesn't make it safe for the ostrich. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No need to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 January 2018 at 11:48, Deborah via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My apologies. I now understand the situation. I'm working away from >>>>> the TV most of the time. This last time I went by I was corrected that the >>>>> decoder has a subscription, and even then NTV, KTN and Citizen were off. It >>>>> seems they defied the ban on broadcasting live political events. My >>>>> question would now be on the justification of the ban. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From:Keith Andere via kictanet >>>>> Sent:‎30/‎01/‎2018 11:09 >>>>> To:deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com >>>>> Cc:Keith Andere >>>>> Subject:Re: [kictanet] TV signals turned off >>>>> >>>>> KTN News too. Channels are off on all free to air platforms. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> KTN News and NTV are available on DSTV. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Keith. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jan 2018 10:53, "Sidney Ochieng via kictanet" < >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Citizen and NTV. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 at 10:33, Deborah <deborah.wanjugu(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey Sidney, >>>>> >>>>> Which signals have been turned off? I went to check and found them all >>>>> on and transmitting normally with the exception of Citizen. It usually has >>>>> issues on the Startimes decoder. >>>>> >>>>> Deborah >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From:Sidney Ochieng via kictanet >>>>> Sent:‎30/‎01/‎2018 10:26 >>>>> To:deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com >>>>> Cc:Sidney Ochieng >>>>> Subject:[kictanet] TV signals turned off >>>>> >>>>> Listers, >>>>> >>>>> How long before they come for the internet? I’m so disappointed in the >>>>> CA >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sidney >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter:@princelySid|*Web:*s idneyochieng.co.ke >>>>> *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sidney >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Twitter:@princelySid|*Web:*s idneyochieng.co.ke >>>>> *Skype: *sidney.ochieng | *Github:* princelySid >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m ailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet >>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KICTA Net/ >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m >>>>> ailman/options/kictanet/kephan d%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>> and regulation. 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Emoji Domains Could Be The Next Internet Gold Rush
by Nelson Kwaje 18 Dec '18

18 Dec '18

Something new or too much hype https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGn1VjdxQ9k Nelson Kwaje Team Lead, Tech and Innovation Unit WEB4ALL LTD www.web4all.co.ke Tel : +254711250795 Skype : nelson kwaje Twitter : @nelsonkwaje Building ICT Solutions That Matter

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Stories For Change: using technology to drive behavioral and cultural transformation
by Mbugua Njihia 31 Oct '18

31 Oct '18

Our society is plagued by many ills. Some conversations we have had for many years and often around the same issues that seem impossible to transcend generational cycles, made worse by the various environmental factors that exist at any given time. In the past, the channels through which issues could be discussed were limited in both number and reach. For example, if we looked at lessons passed down during every rite of passage, information was limited to oral transfer to a limited number of recipients, who in turn could only discuss issues confined to their to their cohort of initiation. http://www.mbuguanjihia.com/misfiring-neurons/stories-for-change-using-tech… *Regards,* Mbugua Njihia ᐧ

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Re: [kictanet] - don't be a statistic: Ten Inventors who "changed the world" but got a raw deal from their Billion dollar inventions
by Patrick A. M. Maina 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Lets assume you are a popular and reputable doctor practising under your own name and someone cybersquats with your name - and places an ad script on the landing page. Now the google crawler detects your online activity elsewhere and figures out that your name is associated with medicine. So the impersonator's temp landing page gets filled with ads competing doctors (including quacks or even worse). In such a case you'd be able to sue for trade name infringement and take them down. In this particular case, the value (and limited exclusivity) of your name's IP is linked to your popularity, the uniqueness of your reputation and the specific circumstances around the cybersquat e.g. the doctor's example above. The link below has an interesting discussion on whether legal names are IP: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-my-name-considered-intellectual-prope… (To be clear I'm not offering be legal advice and I'm not a lawyer. Please consult a lawyer for legal advice.) Good evening. On Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 8:25:53 PM GMT+3, Mildred Achoch <mildandred(a)gmail.com> wrote: Lkkljj CG Thank you for this. Very informative. So, if my name is my IP does this mean no one should cybersquat using my name? Regards,Mildred Achoch. On Tuesday, October 30, 2018, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: [long post - but contains plenty of insight nuggets] So we have interesting argument that often comes up in IP discussions... Perhaps a lack of IP protection contributes to the "success" and/or ubiquity of an invention? I've heard this (flawed) argument before and even spent quite a bit of time researching it. What I learned is that defective arguments can sound very persuasive, but they have no basis in fact or logic (though often framed as pseudo-facts or pseudo-logic). Such arguments are founded on simplistic reasoning that ignores the multitude of factors and variables that contribute to market outcomes. The truth is, you have *no way* of telling what could have happened if a popular unprotected invention was patented, so the argument is fundamentally defective and thus pointless. The fact is, the number of commercially successful (and ubiquitous) products that have IP protection is *far* higher than those without protection, and the sale of these products has funded R&D for numerous follow on products as well as newer inventions. Bic biro pen is globally ubiquitous and is a patented product. CocacCola, another globally ubiquitous product is based on the worlds most heavily protected IP. Your (smart) phone, laptop, PC etc contain *hundreds* of patented innovations (hardware/software). The medical field relies on IP protection (otherwise we'd all be in trouble for slow progress on disease management). Your car contains patented products that enhance safety... I could go on and on.. Secondly the defective argument casually brushes off the interests of the original inventor. Does it not matter that the inventor was not rewarded for contributing to the incremental advancement of humanity? If the inventor is from a poor country, it *should matter a lot*. Overwhelming factual evidence shows that in any industry or sector, when the key actors fail to organise for collective benefit, they get exploited by predatory gatekeepers and middlemen. This prevents entire sectors from taking off despite the potential. Music/movie pirates claim that they are popularizing the artists, but the most pirated music/film belongs to artists who were *already* popular, having sunk a ton of sweat and money into marketing. What piracy really does is *deny* the artist income for their efforts and creativity, making it extremely hard (financially and motivationwise) to come up with the next hit. This leads to wasted talent and destroyed potential. No one documents *that*. The music industry in Kenya became profitable after the artists came together to form collective rights management organisations (similar in concept to IP focused Cooperative). Prior to that, artists could be exploited by everyone, especially corporates and media houses. Now, you can be a millionaire with music. This proves that rewarding innovators/IP fairly promotes more innovation/IP leading to a virtuous cycle of growth and prosperity. ICT, Film and TV producers have failed to organize and so they are struggling in an industry that makes numerous (not just one or two) multi-millionaires elsewhere e.g. in Nigeria, India, South Africa (and to a lesser extent, TZ for film/tv). So... when someone uses flawed reasoning to push an argument, it helps to question whether the person is aware that the reasoning is defective, and if it turns out that the person doesn't care, the issue of *motive* (red flag) needs to come up at the back of your mind. Without the exclusivity offered by IP protection, anyone can launch any product and that leads to a downward spiral of value destruction. Did you know that even your name is a form of IP (hence your gov issued certificate i.e. "ID" that prevents people from impersonating you to profit from or harm your brand)? Imagine if 1,000 people with fake IDs report to your workplace tomorrow and claim to be the real you, then demand your job or Salary. How would the employer know the real you? This is why your name (your personal trademark) is protected in law such that even you can't change it without going through a complicated legal process e.g. swearing an Affidavit in front of a magistrate. You don't even need to register a business name if you do business using your own name. Its a legal tradename already. Your fundamental IP. IP protection deters predation and freeloading. It encourages the rewarding of legitimate Innovators and allows everyone associated with them to win, including the entrepreneur, investors etc by giving them a critical and exclusive window of opportunity to recoup their risky investment. Without IP protection frameworks, there is very little incentive to invent, innovate or commercialise. Too much competition, common with unprotected ideas, leads to razor thin margins and no funds for further R&D. To understand this even better, please watch Peter Thiel's Stanford lecture: "Competition is For Losers". https://youtu.be/3Fx5Q8xGU8k Good evening! Patrick. On Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 12:39:20 PM GMT+3, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng(a)gmail.com> wrote: Something we tend to ignore in stories like this is that perhaps because the technology was not patented it allowed it to spread further and faster than it might have otherwise. On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 21:54, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: This amazing article includes "everyday" products/technologies you have probably used recently e.g. Bic biro pen, Segway, Computer Mouse, Polio Vaccine, Fidget Spinner, Karaoke Machine and WWW (hypertext). Can you imagine the inventors got a raw deal? In most cases other people profited from the inventor's brilliance due to failure to protect their IP. Some fascinating takeaways: That magnetic stripe on your debit/credit card: apparently the inventor didn't realize its value and failed to patent the idea. A multi-billion (if not trillion) dollar oversight. Sometimes you just don't know the real potential of your idea/creation and this can lead to disastrous decisions. Especially when a bunch of people in flashy suits tell you that "ideas are worth nothing" - yet they want to meet you in their posh office for hours to hear your ideas. Others hold elaborate competitions with pomp and prestige; offering you a chance to be a celebrity. But hold on, time is money; why would someone spend precious time listening to (or evaluating) "worthless" stuff? Perhaps its not as worthless as they want you to think...? Inventor of LED (light emitting diodes) was way ahead of his time and, though he foresaw a future with LEDs, he didn't take smart steps to ensure that he was part of that future. Now LED bulbs are a billion dollar industry - and he doesn't get even 1 cent in royalty. Just because people don't "get it" immediately doesn't mean your idea is worthless. You could be ahead of the curve and the market just needs time to catch up (which can be months or years or even decades). Only strategic patience (long term thinking) can keep you grounded and ready for opportunity when it finally knocks. If you must, shelve your "failed" idea for another day, and work on others, but *never* *ever* give it away! The Bic biro pen inventor sold his patent for US$2Million, which turned out to be "peanuts" because more than 1 Trillion Bic pens have been sold to date. Due to information asymmetry, that sweet buy-out deal might not be a fair valuation. Resist the 100% offer. Keep a small percentage to get royalties in perpetuity. You cant lose what you never had. Protect your ideas and push back (or walk away) when offered tempting, but strategically lousy, short term deals. Here's the article: 10 Inventors Who Made No Money on Their Inventions | | | | | | | | | | | 10 Inventors Who Made No Money on Their Inventions Meet 10 people who had the spark of genius but weren't able to translate it into a fat wallet. | | | ______________________________ _________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/listinfo/kictanet Twitter: http://twitter.com/kictanet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ KICTANet/ Domain Registration sponsored by www.eacdirectory.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/ sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards,Sidney | Twitter: @princelySid | Web: s idneyochieng.co.ke Skype: sidney.ochieng | Github: princelySid | -- Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com

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Re: [kictanet] - don't be a statistic: Ten Inventors who "changed the world" but got a raw deal from their Billion dollar inventions
by Patrick A. M. Maina 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

This amazing article includes "everyday" products/technologies you have probably used recently e.g. Bic biro pen, Segway, Computer Mouse, Polio Vaccine, Fidget Spinner, Karaoke Machine and WWW (hypertext). Can you imagine the inventors got a raw deal? In most cases other people profited from the inventor's brilliance due to failure to protect their IP. Some fascinating takeaways: That magnetic stripe on your debit/credit card: apparently the inventor didn't realize its value and failed to patent the idea. A multi-billion (if not trillion) dollar oversight. Sometimes you just don't know the real potential of your idea/creation and this can lead to disastrous decisions. Especially when a bunch of people in flashy suits tell you that "ideas are worth nothing" - yet they want to meet you in their posh office for hours to hear your ideas. Others hold elaborate competitions with pomp and prestige; offering you a chance to be a celebrity. But hold on, time is money; why would someone spend precious time listening to (or evaluating) "worthless" stuff? Perhaps its not as worthless as they want you to think...? Inventor of LED (light emitting diodes) was way ahead of his time and, though he foresaw a future with LEDs, he didn't take smart steps to ensure that he was part of that future. Now LED bulbs are a billion dollar industry - and he doesn't get even 1 cent in royalty. Just because people don't "get it" immediately doesn't mean your idea is worthless. You could be ahead of the curve and the market just needs time to catch up (which can be months or years or even decades). Only strategic patience (long term thinking) can keep you grounded and ready for opportunity when it finally knocks. If you must, shelve your "failed" idea for another day, and work on others, but *never* *ever* give it away! The Bic biro pen inventor sold his patent for US$2Million, which turned out to be "peanuts" because more than 1 Trillion Bic pens have been sold to date. Due to information asymmetry, that sweet buy-out deal might not be a fair valuation. Resist the 100% offer. Keep a small percentage to get royalties in perpetuity. You cant lose what you never had. Protect your ideas and push back (or walk away) when offered tempting, but strategically lousy, short term deals. Here's the article: 10 Inventors Who Made No Money on Their Inventions | | | | | | | | | | | 10 Inventors Who Made No Money on Their Inventions Meet 10 people who had the spark of genius but weren't able to translate it into a fat wallet. | | |

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Re: [kictanet] Article - Protecting Ideas: The Government Whitebox is out
by JImmy Gitonga 26 Oct '18

26 Oct '18

Thank you Patrick for a comprehensive look at the cons of the Whitebox. We have seen so many of these "innovation harvesting" competitions, hackathons and organisations, we should have learnt something by now. Having been part of an award winning team at the Pivot East conference, I can tell you what it takes to "impress" the judges. To get that the winning idea to escape gravity is where the work is. Then, VCs were not serious. I don't know about today. But one thing that has remained the same is the rhetoric. I expect whitebox to spectacularly fail. The guys with good ideas are executing them against all odds. If we don't fix the virtual infrastructure like "idea/innovation protectionism" and get everyone to understand this requires all sectors to pull in the same direction, let us at the very least grow the human capital through the Andelas and Moringas of this world. One day we will build everything here, constantly innovating and iterating to stay ahead of the sharks. Right now, I imagine that trying to bring innovators into a cooperative group is like herding cats. We are not ready yet. Patrick has given us very good ideas. But execution ... Regards, Jimmy Gitonga @afrowave > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:05:01 +0000 (UTC) > From: "Patrick A. M. Maina" <pmaina2000(a)yahoo.com> > To: "kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Article - Protecting Ideas: The Government > Whitebox is out... > > > So what now? > In my previous message, I discussed Pipeline commoditization, an > exploitative model used by VCs / large corporations to mine ideas cheaply > at the expense of Innovators, and which relies primarily on "greyzone > ethics" application of behavioral science principles (e.g.?opportunity > baiting in poor countries). > Remember, you are NOT "the chosen one". There is no such thing. It is an > *illusion* created to trick you into acting against your own interests. > In a given "innovations competition", even if just 100 submissions are > made, your odds of being the "chosen one" are terrible at 1/100. In many > cases, more than 1,000 submissions are made and it is more likely you will > be among the 980 hopefuls who don't get chosen.? > This doesnt mean that the "chosen ones" end up with a better deal (many > regret) because they often get taken over and the local founder is turned > into a "ceremonial CEO"; a pseudo-employee with no real decision making > authority and a seriously compromised ownership structure (can be kicked > out of own business).? > What REALLY happens behind the scenes in such competitions is that the > sponsors get a *free* brainstorm of 1,000 creative ideas (the real prize > for them), from our best, albeit gullible, minds, while being only loosely > obligated to pay a tiny amount ($10K-250K) for a tiny fraction of them > (typically 1-20) under conditions if total subjectivity. > As many founders have already observed, the concept of "judges" or "idea > evaluators" in such competitions is utterly ridiculous. There is no one on > this planet who is capable of identifying great ideas/businesses by relying > on pitches (or even with the benefit of traction data). Such a person would > already?be a GAZILLIONAIRE with his/her *own money* (and hence have no time > nor inclination to judge competitions). > Way forward: > 1. No matter how tantalizing the opportunity, the odds for all of us > improve *only* when we *unite* and negotiate with *one voice*. > 2. Let's build leverage: > a. Innovators ought to be well represented in the boards that > conceptualize these ideas / programs so that their interests are considered > from the onset as key stakeholders. > b. IP policies and laws need to be contextualized and indigenized to level > the playing field for indigenous Innovators. Some partial aspects of this > issue were very well articulated in a recent article by Dr. Bitange Ndemo. > c. The time has come for innovators form a *collectively owned* > cooperative society whose primary mandate will be to *aggregate* and > *commercialize* indigenous innovations through *licencing* partnerships > with Gov and Corporate entities. > In addition to direct partnerships with Innovators, our cooperative entity > will partner with willing incubators as well, offering a solid "next step" > after incubation/PoC. > It will act as a formidable shield for Innovators (protecting them from IP > predators) which will result in massive negotiation leverage and help > create numerous *jobs* as well as *wealth* (which will incentivise more > innovation). > We can start by forming a core team (abt 3-5 people max) right away, to > get started with the formation, structuring and popularisation of such an > entity. > [Permission is granted to anyone interested in republishing this in > tech/innovation blogs, forums, periodicals or media with attribution. Would > appreciate if you let me know when you do so and send me a link. > Thanks. > Patrick. > > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018, 2:12:24 PM GMT+3, Patrick A. M. Maina > via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Sounds good in theory but in practice our IP landscape is woefully > inadequate because it is a copy-paste framework that lacks local context. > 1. As a poor country it is a given that most of our Innovators? will be > starved for (and thus easy to bait with) capital.? > 2. The lure of easy cash / validation is powerful and irresistible. It > short-circuits even the most brilliant minds, causing each participant to > individually fantasize that he/she is the "chosen one". Yet even if just > 100 submissions are made, your odds of being the chosen one are terrible at > 1/100.? > This is classic *Game Theory* in action where self-interest decisions by > individual actors result in a less favourable outcome for all.? > > 3. When you don't have leverage (e.g. something that *only you* can offer) > you can't negotiate. No one will sign an NDA with you. I call it pipeline > commoditization. If, by applying game theory principles, a healthy flow of > unprotected ideas can be guaranteed, why would anyone sign a true NDA with > an innovator? Ideas are not "worthless", they are the most crucial > ingredient for execution (otherwise why did cash-rich execution King > Waymo/Google go after Uber for alleged theft of AV ideas, which they valued > at $500M???)! > Pipeline commoditization relies on *brainwash* and *capital baiting* to > unfairly swings the odds in favor of capital gatekeepers... Come on, play > our idea lottery and Win! Win! Win! Are you "the chosen one"? We have > "judges" who have never invented/innovated anything, many of whom are > career employees with zero startup experience, which makes them PERFECT > experts in judging great ideas/startups. These experts will decide who > proceeds to level 2. Gamble with us and WIN BIG! > > We have to shift this model from a gambling / lottery system to a business > negotiation system. My next message will have some concrete ideas on how to > do this. > Patrick. > >

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