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Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
by arebacollins 29 Aug '16

29 Aug '16

I still don't get it. 1: why should we spend resources to attempt producing stuff we have zero chance of being competitive in? National pride? Lack of stuff we might be competitive in? 2: why should we focus on being a light manufacturing hub Daktari? Why not for instance be a net agricultural producer? (Climate, water, and lots of starving peeps in the neighbourhood). 3: suppose we force consumption of said "made in Kenya product" produced by the local manufacturer, why then favour just that. Why not force government to use Mobius? How then , or when do they become global competitive industries? I'm afraid I see no difference between this and Nyayo pioneer. I suspect our education system, and western leaning capitalism has made us incapable of appreciating anything local. That's where change needs to start from; investing in the fabric that ties us. Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: Lawrence Njogu via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: 27/08/2016 11:51 pm (GMT+03:00) To: arebacollins(a)gmail.com Cc: Lawrence Njogu <lnjogu(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop  @Ndemo I totally agree with you !! We need to support our own Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 11:03:32 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop From: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me To: lnjogu(a)hotmail.com Walubengo,MOIC actually bought 100 Madaraka Desk Tops from JKUAT and Multimedia. They are still in use and we never had any complaints. That is why I advocate for a policy to buy locally made electronic products. We have an opportunity to compete with India that is priming itself as the global hub of light electronic producta through it moto Make in India. If you look at Konza's strategic documents, we were high on light electronic manufacturing. KAIST is looking to build that capacity and several mobile handset manufacturers are eyeing the same. We cannot be the ones pouring cold water on an opportunity like this. Ndemo. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Waithaka.. NASA has some of the most sophisticated and quality assured software there is. And the NASA I know wont procure something that will compromise the quality standards they have. Just think about it. They send a space-craft to Pluto against 1000 parameters that they need to get right. The project costs billions of dollars. And they made it to pluto. Thats worth a clap. What is not worth a clap is getting desperate people to buy your technology. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: Ahmed, This is way too simplistic... It's like the German Chancellor saying since they have VW, BMW & Mercedes there's no need for The German Government to buy and promote upcoming German products. Would NASA in the US consider buying a cheaper Super Computer from China, for example, because HP & Dell need to sort out their business models? Huawei, for reasons disguised as 'National Security' cannot sell a single product to the US Govt... Not when US has firms like CISCO & Juniper building similiar equipment. ‎The thinking that there's no patriotism when purchasing products is only propagated at the developing world's so that they can open up their markets. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke From: Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanetSent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:01 AMTo: Ngigi WaithakaReply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy DiscussionsCc: Ahmed Mohamed MaawySubject: Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop Personal comments: A business model that forces success is not a successful business. Its a dictatorial business. Examples of famous products from Kenya that Kenyans use: M-PesaM-Kopa SolarMobius UshahidiBRCKBitPesaKopoKopoPesaPalAnd the list goes on...Some businesses just need to sort out their business models. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Prof Ndemo, As you well know and remember, we experimented with our famous e-Maddo machines that were assembled at a local university and we tried to sell them to government ministries - without much success. Each ministry had and perhaps still has its 'owners' who will NOT want to buy local when they can buy foreign - with some good 'personal returns' :-) We have great ideas, but zero execution. #What_Would_Magufuli_Do :-)? walu. From: Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com Cc: Bitange Ndemo <bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop David,You are a great man. Keep on sharing your experiences. Policy is a democrat's tool for benevolent dictatorship. The Government should just have a policy to buy lab tops and desk tops from JKUAT. Our taxes should be spent on our products. Ndemo. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, David Otwoma via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Michael, I first met Taifa laptops when we had the ASK Show in 2015. I thought it great then, and seeing this new development I think it is very good. http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/ departments/it/taifa-a3- laptop/ It reminded me of how I returned to Kenya in 2006 after almost 10 years abroad. The government had just removed duty on PC parts and hence since I was entitled to a 40 foot container with my personal effects I filled it with motherboards, RAMs, HDs and other things not available locally. When it was eventually cleared I got some of my childhood pals we grew together in Eastlands and we would assemble "No Name" tower or desk top and enabled many who could not afford branded i.e. IBM, HP, Dell etc. to still enjoy what a computer can as the hardware of essence is the motherboard, RAM, HD while software those days one could pirate MS without dire consequences. My bossom buddy got his son admitted to JKUAT and when the boy was sent home for not having a laptop I advised he gets the Taifa as he will pay by installments. Going forward what JKUAT may do is enter into an agreement with some commercial bank(s) who can provide soft loans (now that interest rates are coming down by law) to enable those who wish to pay back in 4 or 5 years to have that facility. Globally I used to see German made (Siemen Company) desktops and towers sold to students through local arrangements with European banks not only in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too. That does not stop those who may wish to buy say Apple, Toshiba, HP etc at a premium doing so. The beauty is we have our own, even if forced down out children's' throats, it eventually will bring about the effect I have seen in far of places like Japan, South Korea, USA just to name a few. I remember a friend who had to attended a 6 months training course in Japan was issued a Toshiba laptop and its cost included in the training package. the whole class had more than 20 Africans and it occurred every year since 1997. If JKUAT can borrow that leaf and extend beyong 1st years reporting to civil servants who have to attend some compulsory courses not available at Kenya School of Government it will be great as it would boost usage and outlet of this Taifa laptops. Better still is making a deal with government entities like the Ministries, Parastatals etc and supply us with this laptops. Only last week I was issued with the biannual replacement of my laptop witha HP imported from United Arab Emirates and I am willing to bet half my August salary that it was purchased in excess of kshs. 70,000 while its specs are not so different from the Taifa laptop! Why are we happier creating jobs for technicians (since someone may argue degree holders should not be assembling laptops) abroad while our own youths are jobless. Why do we wish to export our dollars abroad when we could pass the money to our own locally to spend locally, the bigger chunks, eventually? Finally every-time I visit West African countries I notice they do not wear suits like we do in kenya starting from their President down to the street urchins. They have evolved a sophisticated clothing industry that do not allow 'someone died aka mitumba' industry as we have here. Let me start counting the minutes to Furahi day. -- -- David Otwoma, PhD Chief Scientist, National Commission for Science Technology and Innovation (NACOSTI) Utalii House, P.O Box 30623-00100 Nairobi, Kenya Safcom tel: +254 722 141771, Orange tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, email: otwooma(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)uonbi.ac.ke http://www.facebook.com/ profile.php?ref=profile&id= 100000614284149 http://www.nacosti.go.ke & Chairman, Eastern Africa Association for Radiation Protection, http://www.eaarp.org/ On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Musya Michael via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Anyone using this laptop? Experiences so far? http://www.the-star.co.ke/news /2016/08/22/parents-protest- jkuats-imposition-of-taifa- laptops-on-students_c1407693 -- Regards, Michael Musya. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. 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Taifa Laptop
by Musya Michael 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Anyone using this laptop? Experiences so far? http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/08/22/parents-protest-jkuats-imposition… -- Regards, Michael Musya. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13

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Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
by Job Muriuki 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

In the spirit of supporting the Taifa laptop project why doesn't the government procure the laptops for use in government institutions. On Aug 27, 2016 5:13 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Ndemo, True that. The Ministry of ICT where you were the 'owner' did buy the PCs - and that was great. But to make the project sustainable we needed other Permanent Secs to stand up and buy into the the vision. From the arguments on this list, it is clear we have a long way to go. In my younger days, I belonged to the group of Kenyans that laughed off the 'Nyayo-car' and thought it was a waste of money. Later on, I regret why Kenyans never supported this project. This is because behind it, was a group of researchers from UoN trying to get our 'jua-kali' sector into the next level. Nyayo-car WAS never the project. The ecosystem around building Nyayo-car was the Project. As @Waithaka has also tried to explain. The Americans (NASA) going to the moon or mars is never the project. The industry, technology and competency spin-off resulting from the Americans trying to the go the moon is the true worth of the project. Same with Taifa laptop or Madaraka PCs. It is a failure only if you refuse to see the bigger picture. That said, we must also acknowledge our Kenyan appetite for corrupting big picture projects during implementations. That can spin the project into a completely new trajectory :-( walu. ------------------------------ *From:* Bitange Ndemo <bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me> *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>; Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:03 AM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop Walubengo, MOIC actually bought 100 Madaraka Desk Tops from JKUAT and Multimedia. They are still in use and we never had any complaints. That is why I advocate for a policy to buy locally made electronic products. We have an opportunity to compete with India that is priming itself as the global hub of light electronic producta through it moto Make in India. If you look at Konza's strategic documents, we were high on light electronic manufacturing. KAIST is looking to build that capacity and several mobile handset manufacturers are eyeing the same. We cannot be the ones pouring cold water on an opportunity like this. Ndemo. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Waithaka.. NASA has some of the most sophisticated and quality assured software there is. And the NASA I know wont procure something that will compromise the quality standards they have. Just think about it. They send a space-craft to Pluto against 1000 parameters that they need to get right. The project costs billions of dollars. And they made it to pluto. Thats worth a clap. What is not worth a clap is getting desperate people to buy your technology. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: Ahmed, This is way too simplistic... It's like the German Chancellor saying since they have VW, BMW & Mercedes there's no need for The German Government to buy and promote upcoming German products. Would NASA in the US consider buying a cheaper Super Computer from China, for example, because HP & Dell need to sort out their business models? Huawei, for reasons disguised as 'National Security' cannot sell a single product to the US Govt... Not when US has firms like CISCO & Juniper building similiar equipment. ‎The thinking that there's no patriotism when purchasing products is only propagated at the developing world's so that they can open up their markets. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke *From: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet *Sent: *Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:01 AM *To: *Ngigi Waithaka *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions *Cc: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop Personal comments: A business model that forces success is not a successful business. Its a dictatorial business. Examples of famous products from Kenya that Kenyans use: - M-Pesa - M-Kopa Solar - Mobius - Ushahidi - BRCK - BitPesa - KopoKopo - PesaPal - And the list goes on... Some businesses just need to sort out their business models. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: @ Prof Ndemo, As you well know and remember, we experimented with our famous e-Maddo machines that were assembled at a local university and we tried to sell them to government ministries - without much success. Each ministry had and perhaps still has its 'owners' who will NOT want to buy local when they can buy foreign - with some good 'personal returns' :-) We have great ideas, but zero execution. #What_Would_Magufuli_Do :-)? walu. ------------------------------ *From:* Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com *Cc:* Bitange Ndemo <bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me> *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 11:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop David, You are a great man. Keep on sharing your experiences. Policy is a democrat's tool for benevolent dictatorship. The Government should just have a policy to buy lab tops and desk tops from JKUAT. Our taxes should be spent on our products. Ndemo. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, David Otwoma via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Michael, I first met Taifa laptops when we had the ASK Show in 2015. I thought it great then, and seeing this new development I think it is very good. http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/ departments/it/taifa-a3- laptop/ <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/departments/it/taifa-a3-laptop/> It reminded me of how I returned to Kenya in 2006 after almost 10 years abroad. The government had just removed duty on PC parts and hence since I was entitled to a 40 foot container with my personal effects I filled it with motherboards, RAMs, HDs and other things not available locally. When it was eventually cleared I got some of my childhood pals we grew together in Eastlands and we would assemble "No Name" tower or desk top and enabled many who could not afford branded i.e. IBM, HP, Dell etc. to still enjoy what a computer can as the hardware of essence is the motherboard, RAM, HD while software those days one could pirate MS without dire consequences. My bossom buddy got his son admitted to JKUAT and when the boy was sent home for not having a laptop I advised he gets the Taifa as he will pay by installments. Going forward what JKUAT may do is enter into an agreement with some commercial bank(s) who can provide soft loans (now that interest rates are coming down by law) to enable those who wish to pay back in 4 or 5 years to have that facility. Globally I used to see German made (Siemen Company) desktops and towers sold to students through local arrangements with European banks not only in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too. That does not stop those who may wish to buy say Apple, Toshiba, HP etc at a premium doing so. The beauty is we have our own, even if forced down out children's' throats, it eventually will bring about the effect I have seen in far of places like Japan, South Korea, USA just to name a few. I remember a friend who had to attended a 6 months training course in Japan was issued a Toshiba laptop and its cost included in the training package. the whole class had more than 20 Africans and it occurred every year since 1997. If JKUAT can borrow that leaf and extend beyong 1st years reporting to civil servants who have to attend some compulsory courses not available at Kenya School of Government it will be great as it would boost usage and outlet of this Taifa laptops. Better still is making a deal with government entities like the Ministries, Parastatals etc and supply us with this laptops. Only last week I was issued with the biannual replacement of my laptop witha HP imported from United Arab Emirates and I am willing to bet half my August salary that it was purchased in excess of kshs. 70,000 while its specs are not so different from the Taifa laptop! Why are we happier creating jobs for technicians (since someone may argue degree holders should not be assembling laptops) abroad while our own youths are jobless. Why do we wish to export our dollars abroad when we could pass the money to our own locally to spend locally, the bigger chunks, eventually? Finally every-time I visit West African countries I notice they do not wear suits like we do in kenya starting from their President down to the street urchins. They have evolved a sophisticated clothing industry that do not allow 'someone died aka mitumba' industry as we have here. Let me start counting the minutes to Furahi day. -- -- David Otwoma, PhD Chief Scientist, National Commission for Science Technology and Innovation (NACOSTI) Utalii House, P.O Box 30623-00100 Nairobi, Kenya Safcom tel: +254 722 141771, Orange tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, email: otwooma(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)uonbi.ac.ke http://www.facebook.com/ profile.php?ref=profile&id= 100000614284149 <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000614284149> http://www.nacosti.go.ke & Chairman, Eastern Africa Association for Radiation Protection, http://www.eaarp.org/ On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Musya Michael via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: Anyone using this laptop? Experiences so far? http://www.the-star.co.ke/news /2016/08/22/parents-protest- jkuats-imposition-of-taifa- laptops-on-students_c1407693 <http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/08/22/parents-protest-jkuats-imposition…> -- Regards, Michael Musya. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. 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Re: [kictanet] Random Online (internet) query to the question "Who Owns...........?: " Taifa Laptop
by Wangari Kabiru 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Blessed Saturday! Yes corporations are global and we may even have firms founded by Kenyans that operate in other countries. Please encourage them. So let us not mix up on this in this discussion. When saying that a firm or initiative is a Kenyan innovation, I would use an "innovation meter" measuring what is from the Kenyan human capital, Kenyan investors...such metrics. At Kenya's developmental aspiration stage, I see this more in context of the ideation (teams), ownership. Majority of the big, top of mind names that keep being bounced about as Kenyan innovations, yes are innovations, innovations operating in Kenya, Kenya is a good consumer of them, we have more outflow of the profit that retention of returns. If this is how we define Kenyan, then this is the doubtful part. Why this distinction is important is to ensure we do not camouflage the human potential & risk appetite, investment capacities and capabilities. There is a big distinction when Kenyans ideate, startup, own and grow. Be blessed. Regards/WangariOn Aug 27, 2016 1:36 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Its a global arena and long gone are days of these questions. > > Football teams in England are being owned by Russians and Arabs and Americans. Still being called English football teams. > > Richard Branson owns businesses that are even in the US and are being called names like Virgin America. > > PwC and KPMG and the likes have local offices in every imaginable country. > > Samsung (Korea) is buying techology companies in the US. Recently: Joyent. > > Speaking of which. Kenyan companies in Tax Heaven countries like Mauritius? Comments on this? > > Its not a suitable question in local context. > > > On 27 Aug 2016 1:18 p.m., "Wangari Kabiru via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Blessed day! >> >> This is the response on a random Online (internet) query to the question "Who Owns...........?". To the below cited as Kenyan innovations on KICTANET. Note there may be many more responses as you do a random query >> >> In innovation speak, tafadhali jaza pengo, so Kenya is a.........., Kenyan's are innovative? Kenyans are not innovative? Kenyans are good consumers of innovations? >> >> 1.M-Pesa >> “The people working on M-Pesa service are Vodafone staff in Germany, the UK. Safaricom does not have people working on M-Pesa.” Vodafone owns the M-Pesa concept and has introduced it in eight countries including Kenya, India, Tanzania, and South Africa.May 14, 2013 >> >> Type Public. Owned by Vodafone 40% & Permanent Secretary (The Treasury) 35% >> >> 2. M-Kopa Solar >> M-Kopa (M = mobile, 'kopa' is Swahili for 'borrowed') is a Kenyan solar energy company that was founded in 2011 by Nick Hughes, Chad Larson, and Jesse Moore.[1] Moore and Hughes were previously colleagues at Vodafone,[2] and Larson and Moore were fellow MBA students at Oxford University [3][4] The company sells home solar systems in Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda.[5] Customers pay a deposit of 3,500 KES (approx $35), take the system home then pay 50 KES (approx $0.50) a day for a period of one year, to own the solar system. Daily payments are made through M-PESA, a mobile phone based money system, and in addition to getting solar power, customers also slowly off-set the cost of the device.[6] The system is meant for an off-grid household who is using kerosene (paraffin) lamps to light their home, and paying for batteries and phone charging. >> >> 3. Mobius >> Q & A with Joel Jackson, founder of Mobius Motors >> By John Peabody May 23, 2013 >> Tags: AFRICA | CARS | MOBIUS | SMALL BUSINESS >> In February, Global Post profiled an interesting startup in Africa called Mobius Motors that is working to manufacture affordable ($6,000) cars designed specifically for Africans. >> >> By simplifying the designs through the elimination of non-essential parts like power steering and air conditioning, the team at Mobius is able to drastically reduce the cost of the vehicle, which they hope will help small business owners in need of affordable transportation. Reuters reached Mobius founder and CEO Joel Jackson over email to ask him about his plans for the car company and some of the challenges he foresees. >> >> Reuters: First can you tell me briefly how Mobius came about? I understand you were working in Africa when you had the idea? >> >> J.J.: Mobius was inspired by my experience working in rural Kenya in 2009 with a startup forestry venture. In this role I spent time with local farming communities and learned about some of their day-to-day challenges. One of the biggest issues these communities faced was immobility. Without access to appropriate forms of transport many people would walk tens of kilometers to get around – to get access to schools, or doctors, or clean drinking water or farming inputs. >> >> The vision of Mobius is to build a more appropriate and affordable vehicle for transport businesses and in turn create a platform for mobility across Africa. >> >> Reuters: Can you give us some info about the company? Number of employees, how many cars you currently build/hope to build? Any info on financials? >> >> J.J.: Mobius has 24 employees. We’ve built two prototype vehicles and one production alpha vehicle; and we’re launching initial proof-of-concept production of 50 vehicles in Q3 2013. To date, Mobius has raised several million dollars of investment and we plan to increa

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Random Online (internet) query to the question "Who Owns...........?: " Taifa Laptop
by Wangari Kabiru 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Blessed day! This is the response on a random Online (internet) query to the question "Who Owns...........?". To the below cited as Kenyan innovations on KICTANET. Note there may be many more responses as you do a random query In innovation speak, tafadhali jaza pengo, so Kenya is a.........., Kenyan's are innovative? Kenyans are not innovative? Kenyans are good consumers of innovations? 1.M-Pesa “The people working on M-Pesa service are Vodafone staff in Germany, the UK. Safaricom does not have people working on M-Pesa.” Vodafone owns the M-Pesa concept and has introduced it in eight countries including Kenya, India, Tanzania, and South Africa.May 14, 2013 Type Public. Owned by Vodafone 40% & Permanent Secretary (The Treasury) 35% 2. M-Kopa Solar M-Kopa (M = mobile, 'kopa' is Swahili for 'borrowed') is a Kenyan solar energy company that was founded in 2011 by Nick Hughes, Chad Larson, and Jesse Moore.[1] Moore and Hughes were previously colleagues at Vodafone,[2] and Larson and Moore were fellow MBA students at Oxford University [3][4] The company sells home solar systems in Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda.[5] Customers pay a deposit of 3,500 KES (approx $35), take the system home then pay 50 KES (approx $0.50) a day for a period of one year, to own the solar system. Daily payments are made through M-PESA, a mobile phone based money system, and in addition to getting solar power, customers also slowly off-set the cost of the device.[6] The system is meant for an off-grid household who is using kerosene (paraffin) lamps to light their home, and paying for batteries and phone charging. 3. Mobius Q & A with Joel Jackson, founder of Mobius Motors By John Peabody May 23, 2013 Tags: AFRICA | CARS | MOBIUS | SMALL BUSINESS In February, Global Post profiled an interesting startup in Africa called Mobius Motors that is working to manufacture affordable ($6,000) cars designed specifically for Africans. By simplifying the designs through the elimination of non-essential parts like power steering and air conditioning, the team at Mobius is able to drastically reduce the cost of the vehicle, which they hope will help small business owners in need of affordable transportation. Reuters reached Mobius founder and CEO Joel Jackson over email to ask him about his plans for the car company and some of the challenges he foresees. Reuters: First can you tell me briefly how Mobius came about? I understand you were working in Africa when you had the idea? J.J.: Mobius was inspired by my experience working in rural Kenya in 2009 with a startup forestry venture. In this role I spent time with local farming communities and learned about some of their day-to-day challenges. One of the biggest issues these communities faced was immobility. Without access to appropriate forms of transport many people would walk tens of kilometers to get around – to get access to schools, or doctors, or clean drinking water or farming inputs. The vision of Mobius is to build a more appropriate and affordable vehicle for transport businesses and in turn create a platform for mobility across Africa. Reuters: Can you give us some info about the company? Number of employees, how many cars you currently build/hope to build? Any info on financials? J.J.: Mobius has 24 employees. We’ve built two prototype vehicles and one production alpha vehicle; and we’re launching initial proof-of-concept production of 50 vehicles in Q3 2013. To date, Mobius has raised several million dollars of investment and we plan to increase production to 300 units in mid 2014. 4. Ushahidi Ushahidi, Inc. Founded 2008 Founder Erik Hersman, Ory Okolloh, Juliana Rotich, David Kobia Type 501(c)(3) Tax ID no. 2652079 Focus activism, mapping Location Nairobi, Kenya Origins Crowdsourcing Area served World Method mapping and geospatial Owner Ushahidi, Inc. Key people Erik Hersman, Juliana Rotich, David Kobia, Revenue US$300,000 Endowment US$1,800,000[1] Employees 29 Volunteers 50 Slogan Crowdsourcing Crisis Information Website ushahidi.com 5. BRCK Background Company: BRCK Started: 2013 Total VC Funding: $4.2 million HQ: Nairobi, Kenya Linkedin Employee Count: 23 Co-founders: Reg Orton (CTO), Jon Shuler , Philip Walton (COO), Erik Hersman (CEO) Product: Mobile Wi-Fi Device 6. BitPesa One bitcoin start-up is building what it hopes will become a template for using digital currencies in the developing world, a much-talked-about market for cryptocurrencies. It’s called BitPesa, it’s based in Nairobi, and it’s beginning a beta test this week of its first product, a remittance service for Kenyans living abroad. On Friday, the start-up launched a pilot remittance program involving about 15 Kenyans in London, who can begin using BitPesa to send money back home. If it works, and spreads, it promises to lower the billions currently spent on transfer fees, and, its founders hope, maybe even spark a tech boom in Kenya. BitPesa is the brainchild of Duncan Goldie-Scot, a well-known name in microfinance, and Elizabeth Rossiello, a Queens-born former Credit Suisse banker with a background in microfinance who’s been living in Nairobi the past five years. With Ms. Rossiello acting as CEO, the company has raised $700,000 so far 7. KopoKopo Kopo Kopo is a United States company, with offices in Kenya and Tanzania. We are supported by reputed investors ... 8. PesaPal Africa / Interview: PesaPal’s Agosta Liko on African mobile payment solutionsBy Mark Kaigwa on 9 August, 2010 email article Agosta Liko, CEO of PesaPal, relocated to Kenya from the US to start Verviant, a software development company in Nairobi. Three years later, the team at Verviant launched PesaPal with a vision of enabling Kenyans to make online payments. PesaPal is making great strides in bridging the mobile and electronic payment divide in Kenya, and is set to expand to more African countries next year. Mark Kaigwa sat down with the CEO to discuss his perspective on doing business in Kenya, the African condition, and on how PesaPal was able to gain traction with ordinary people. MK: How would you describe PesaPal at present, and where do you see the company heading in the future? AL: In short, PesaPal is electronic payments; payments for the African condition. Doing things and answering problems that wouldn’t make sense if my co-founders weren’t African. It may make no sense to others but it applies for Africa. “Social Cash” is a part of the African condition and culture. Social cash is how you raise money for weddings, funeral committees or harambee (a type of Kenyan fundraising meeting between family, friends and well-wishers.) When these people get together, they bring with them cash, cheques, mobile payments, bank transfers, etc. If you can have all that maintained and tracked from one account you’ve solved a problem. And it’s good for bookkeeping and for their affairs. To the rest of the world Africa is a place of “micropayments” but to us it’s a lot of money. They talk about $2 a day and conclude “that’s not a lot of money”. And the list goes on...On Aug 27, 2016 10:13, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Well said Ahmed, the crux of it is looking at the entire Value Chain from Ideation to Market penetration and customer support. > > We often marvel at novelty and seldom subject it to an entire trajectory path. > > One of the skills that often need to be embedded alongside the repertoire of skills needed for innovative ventures to thrive is Business Development. That skill delivered in a coaching intervention format i.e constant questioning, goal setting and action will ensure the list given by Ahmed grows significantly.... > > Restful weekend to all...unless you are at TICAD of course. .. > > > Timothy Oriedo > > about.me/Timoriedo > > > > > On 27 Aug 2016 10:01 am, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Personal comments: >> >> A business model that forces success is not a successful business. Its a dictatorial business. >> >> Examples of famous products from Kenya that Kenyans use: >> M-Pesa >> M-Kopa Solar >> Mobius >> Ushahidi >> BRCK >> BitPesa >> KopoKopo >> PesaPal >> And the list goes on... >> >> Some businesses just need to sort out their business models. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> @ Prof Ndemo, >>> >>> As you well know and remember, we experimented with our famous e-Maddo machines that were assembled at a local university and we tried to sell them to government ministries - without much success. >>> >>> Each ministry had and perhaps still has its 'owners' who will NOT want to buy local when they can buy foreign - with some good 'personal returns' :-) >>> >>> We have great ideas, but zero execution. >>> >>> #What_Would_Magufuli_Do :-)? >>> >>> walu. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>> Cc: Bitange Ndemo <bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me> >>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop >>> >>> David, >>> You are a great man. Keep on sharing your experiences. Policy is a democrat's tool for benevolent dictatorship. The Government should just have a policy to buy lab tops and desk tops from JKUAT. Our taxes should be spent on our products. >>> >>> Ndemo. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, David Otwoma via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> I first met Taifa laptops w

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Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
by Josiah Mugambi 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

I think the root of this lively discussion has been the JKUAT administration seemingly *forcing* students to buy the Taifa laptops, and not admitting new students who do not do so. It's one thing to have a policy where a Govt body buys locally assembled or manufactured products. I think it is another thing to force a private citizen to buy a product locally made or not, and deny one access to higher education even at a public institution, if said product is not purchased. I'm all for buy and build local, but there are surely other ways of implementing it. This for me crosses a line. The special software argument doesn't fly since that said software can quite easily run on other hardware. What about choice of buying the Taifa laptop at a better price (as a result of various interventions) to the regular market? On Aug 27, 2016 1:19 PM, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Waithaka And Kenyans are not desperate people‎ and we don't make crappy products! Let's get over the mentality that everything good has to come from outside! I agree with you. I assure you however that not all Kenyans like to buy foreign. We just want to make sure that Kenyan companies don't get way with producing or giving crappy service and want us to buy just because it's Kenyan!! The days of *Serikali Saidia* are gone. It has to be *Tusaidiane*. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi Sent from my iPad On 27 Aug 2016, at 11:20 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: NASA today has good QA systems and products, yes. But, that didn't happen overnight... When they started, their systems were of such poor quality that quite a number of astronauts lost their lives, The Challenger incident being the most well known. Despite these set backs, they didn't issue a tender to Russia and/or EU to sell them their technology, they rolled their sleeves and got down to work. ‎India, last year got to Mars. They spent 1/1000th of the NASA budget, built a simpler craft and got there. There were many naysayers who ofcourse questioned the wisdom of the entire project. Those who asked why can't India just buy rockets & spacecraft from US & Russia instead of forcing these 'crapy' rockets on 'poor' Indians. But, they were smarter than that. They knew the so called crappy rockets would get them there eventually. And they did! This is what we lack; we mostly look for quick solutions as opposed to sustainable solutions. And Kenyans are not desperate people‎ and we don't make crappy products! Let's get over the mentality that everything good has to come from outside! Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke *From: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy *Sent: *Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:54 AM *To: *Waithaka Ngigi *Cc: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop Waithaka.. NASA has some of the most sophisticated and quality assured software there is. And the NASA I know wont procure something that will compromise the quality standards they have. Just think about it. They send a space-craft to Pluto against 1000 parameters that they need to get right. The project costs billions of dollars. And they made it to pluto. Thats worth a clap. What is not worth a clap is getting desperate people to buy your technology. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: > Ahmed, > > This is way too simplistic... > > It's like the German Chancellor saying since they have VW, BMW & Mercedes > there's no need for The German Government to buy and promote upcoming > German products. > > Would NASA in the US consider buying a cheaper Super Computer from China, > for example, because HP & Dell need to sort out their business models? > Huawei, for reasons disguised as 'National Security' cannot sell a single > product to the US Govt... Not when US has firms like CISCO & Juniper > building similiar equipment. > > ‎The thinking that there's no patriotism when purchasing products is only > propagated at the developing world's so that they can open up their markets. > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Alliance Technologies > www.at.co.ke > *From: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet > *Sent: *Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:01 AM > *To: *Ngigi Waithaka > *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Cc: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop > > Personal comments: > > A business model that forces success is not a successful business. Its a > dictatorial business. > > Examples of famous products from Kenya that Kenyans use: > > - M-Pesa > - M-Kopa Solar > - Mobius > - Ushahidi > - BRCK > - BitPesa > - KopoKopo > - PesaPal > - And the list goes on... > > Some businesses just need to sort out their business models. > > > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> @ Prof Ndemo, >> >> As you well know and remember, we experimented with our famous e-Maddo >> machines that were assembled at a local university and we tried to sell >> them to government ministries - without much success. >> >> Each ministry had and perhaps still has its 'owners' who will NOT want to >> buy local when they can buy foreign - with some good 'personal returns' :-) >> >> We have great ideas, but zero execution. >> >> #What_Would_Magufuli_Do :-)? >> >> walu. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *To:* jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> *Cc:* Bitange Ndemo <bndemo(a)bitangendemo.me> >> *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 11:20 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop >> >> David, >> You are a great man. Keep on sharing your experiences. Policy is a >> democrat's tool for benevolent dictatorship. The Government should just >> have a policy to buy lab tops and desk tops from JKUAT. Our taxes should >> be spent on our products. >> >> Ndemo. >> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, David Otwoma via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Michael, >> >> I first met Taifa laptops when we had the ASK Show in 2015. I thought it >> great then, and seeing this new development I think it is very good. http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/ >> departments/it/taifa-a3- laptop/ >> <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/departments/it/taifa-a3-laptop/> >> >> It reminded me of how I returned to Kenya in 2006 after almost 10 years >> abroad. The government had just removed duty on PC parts and hence since I >> was entitled to a 40 foot container with my personal effects I filled it >> with motherboards, RAMs, HDs and other things not available locally. When >> it was eventually cleared I got some of my childhood pals we grew together >> in Eastlands and we would assemble "No Name" tower or desk top and enabled >> many who could not afford branded i.e. IBM, HP, Dell etc. to still enjoy >> what a computer can as the hardware of essence is the motherboard, RAM, HD >> while software those days one could pirate MS without dire consequences. >> >> My bossom buddy got his son admitted to JKUAT and when the boy was sent >> home for not having a laptop I advised he gets the Taifa as he will pay by >> installments. Going forward what JKUAT may do is enter into an agreement >> with some commercial bank(s) who can provide soft loans (now that interest >> rates are coming down by law) to enable those who wish to pay back in 4 or >> 5 years to have that facility. >> >> Globally I used to see German made (Siemen Company) desktops and towers >> sold to students through local arrangements with European banks not only in >> Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too. That does not stop those who >> may wish to buy say Apple, Toshiba, HP etc at a premium doing so. The >> beauty is we have our own, even if forced down out children's' throats, it >> eventually will bring about the effect I have seen in far of places like >> Japan, South Korea, USA just to name a few. I remember a friend who had to >> attended a 6 months training course in Japan was issued a Toshiba laptop >> and its cost included in the training package. the whole class had more >> than 20 Africans and it occurred every year since 1997. If JKUAT can borrow >> that leaf and extend beyong 1st years reporting to civil servants who have >> to attend some compulsory courses not available at Kenya School of >> Government it will be great as it would boost usage and outlet of this >> Taifa laptops. Better still is making a deal with government entities like >> the Ministries, Parastatals etc and supply us with this laptops. Only last >> week I was issued with the biannual replacement of my laptop witha HP >> imported from United Arab Emirates and I am willing to bet half my August >> salary that it was purchased in excess of kshs. 70,000 while its specs are >> not so different from the Taifa laptop! Why are we happier creating jobs >> for technicians (since someone may argue degree holders should not be >> assembling laptops) abroad while our own youths are jobless. Why do we wish >> to export our dollars abroad when we could pass the money to our own >> locally to spend locally, the bigger chunks, eventually? >> >> Finally every-time I visit West African countries I notice they do not >> wear suits like we do in kenya starting from their President down to the >> street urchins. They have evolved a sophisticated clothing industry that do >> not allow 'someone died aka mitumba' industry as we have here. >> >> Let me start counting the minutes to Furahi day. >> >> -- >> -- >> David Otwoma, PhD >> Chief Scientist, >> National Commission for Science Technology and Innovation (NACOSTI) >> Utalii House, P.O Box 30623-00100 Nairobi, Kenya >> Safcom tel: +254 722 141771, >> Orange tel: +254 (0)20 2346915, >> email: otwooma(a)gmail.com & otwoma(a)uonbi.ac.ke >> http://www.facebook.com/ profile.php?ref=profile&id= 100000614284149 >> <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000614284149> >> http://www.nacosti.go.ke >> & >> Chairman, >> Eastern Africa Association for Radiation Protection, >> http://www.eaarp.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Musya Michael via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: >> >> Anyone using this laptop? 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/ mailman/options/kictanet/josiah.mugambi%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Safaricom used backdoor to shutdown bitcoin?
by Liz Orembo 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

Can someone from Safaricom give us their side of the story? http://kenyainsights.com/revealed-how-a-worried-safaricom-used-backdoor-to-… -- Best regards. Liz. PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF

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Law to regulate ICT people will wipe out gains
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 27 Aug '16

27 Aug '16

....ICT is different. Once connectivity is in place, all you need to be a player on the global ICT stage is a computer and an enquiring mind. Anyone can get involved. It is truly an opportunity to unleash the spirit of free thinking that can propel individuals — and hence a country — to middle-income status overnight. Anything that inhibits that spirit of youthful innovation, entrepreneurism and energy is a bad thing and that is exactly what this ICT Practitioners Bill will do — stifle enterprise. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/Law-to-regulate-ICT… Regards,

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10th Anniversary AITEC Banking Conference, Panafric Hotel, 30-31 August 2016
by Sean Moroney 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Dear Listers, The programme for our 10th annual Nairobi Banking & Mobile Money conference next week is attached. Sorry we are not able to offer listers free delegate spaces as in the past, but I would like to offer you a 50% discount on the delegate fee. Please register using the attached VIP Delegate form. Yours sincerely, Sean Moroney Chairman AITEC Africa seanm(a)aitecafrica.com <mailto:seanm@aitecafrica.com> |Skype: seanmoroney UK Mobile: +44(0)7973499224|Kenya Mobile: +254(0)737148814/721845674 www.aitecafrica.com <http://www.aitecafrica.com/> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+seanm=aitecafrica.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:46 AM To: seanm(a)aitecafrica.com Cc: Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <timoriedo(a)gmail.com>; Lorem aminathia <lorem.aminathia(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Social Entrepreneurship in Kenya Hi Ebele, I would wish to nominate Taurus Farms. Founded by 3 Kenyan Yale University Alumni who despite being equipped with Degrees from the Ivy league institution choose to abandon quest for Corporate fame pursue a social cause by forming Tanuru Farms. Tanuru Farms seek to integrate small-scale farmers in South Nyanza into the regional agricultural value chains(AVCs) in the oilseeds sector; and eventually hope to facilitate value addition as well. Tanuru Farms firmly believes that the participation of small-scale farmers in AVCs will enable the farmers to harness the interdependence among the different actors in the value chain, namely the suppliers of inputs and seeds, the businesses providing technical support for farmers, the financiers, wholesale producers of farm products, the processors and associated sellers. Please check their website www.tanurufarms.com <http://www.tanurufarms.com> . I am their business coach and would highly recommend. Have put one of the team on copy. Regards Tim On 24 Aug 2016 3:03 pm, "Ebele Okobi via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: Hello, All! Question-I'd love to hear from any and all. Which born and bred in Kenya social enterprises do you think are doing the most interesting, innovative and most impactful work? Which are under appreciated gems? Ebele Okobi | Director of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 <tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315> 10 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FG <mailto:ebeleokobi@fb.com> ebeleokobi(a)fb.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/timoriedo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
by Paul Korir 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Some fodder for your thoughts: 1) JKUAT requires high spec machines but not Taifa Laptops. Unless they are sneakily describing a Taifa Laptop? http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/laptop-specifications-for-new-students/ 2) Question: are Taifa Laptops fully manufactured in .ke or assembled from parts imported complete? if fully manufactured then they need to improve their sales strategy else if only assembled then there is an additional unnecessary markup without any guarantee of quality 3) In the cases cited where local products were promoted (S. Korea for Hyundai etc.), I’m pretty sure there was corresponding restriction of imports. The restriction of choice was done at a state level not at a single public institution to exploit parents in a desperate position. In this case as described by (1) above only the specs were made open but students not forced to by Taifa Laptops. What happens to students who already had a laptop before they enrolled? Paul Korir, PhD +44 7780 283 183 Ordnung muß sein

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