January 2016 - KICTANet

Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet - Wish List ?
by Barrack Otieno 18 Jul '24

18 Jul '24

Listers, This is indeed good news. We have a lot of hope in Mucheru and Victor Kyalo industry veterans who have indeed worked their way through the trenches. Most importantly we hope to see the return of a multi stakeholder form of engagement in the sector which we have been yearning for in a while. I think as a sector we might need to prepare a wish list for our new leaders and most importantly commit to work with them towards achieving their mandate. The reshuffle is timely still it comes at the end of the year and will allow us to start 2016 on a new slate. Thank you Best Regards On 11/24/15, GG via kictanet <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > +1 Grace. > > Sending them positive energy! And glad that the two were among the KICTANet > founders. > Rgds. > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: 24 November 2015 22:35 > To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > Cc: "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)" <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet > > One of the issues (I think issue no.3) in the President's speech was > accessibility of leaders to wananchi. With Joe and Kyalo I think we shall > have better ears. > > Congratulations! > > May they pass the vetting. > > Regards, > On 24 Nov 2015 21:29, "Evans Ikua via kictanet" < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> @Ngigi you are right. But in the current dispensation, a CS is still >> expected to be a technocrat, as opposed to the days of yore when minister >> was politician. So they will both be at home in their respective >> positions. >> Especially Victor as the accounting officer with his many years in >> government. That's the right position. >> >> Evans >> On Nov 24, 2015 9:17 PM, "Waithaka Ngigi" <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Evans, >>> >>> Joe Mucheru & Victor Kyalo are old hands in. KE ICT. Both have been >>> entrepreneurs and then at some point moved on to various ventures. So we >>> shouldn't go wrong ‎with either. >>> >>> However, what's the better fit? Mucheru at CS, Victor at PS or the other >>> way round? Victor CS, Mucheru PS? >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Alliance Technologies >>> www.at.co.ke >>> *From: *Evans Ikua via kictanet >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:50 PM >>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> *Cc: *Evans Ikua >>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] New Cabinet >>> >>> Congrats Hon Joe! That's a great choice for the ICT industry. Well out >>> H.E. >>> >>> Ikua >>> On Nov 24, 2015 8:45 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations to Joe Mucheru! >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>>> development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>>> bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, >>>> do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Fwd:Defamatory Blog Publication by Moses Kuria & Demand For Apology
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 20 Apr '17

20 Apr '17

Dear all, the suit between Muite & Others versus Moses Kuria, which I understand is proceeding to court, should be a very interesting one to watch. Hopefully it shall give some insights on content control vs freedom of expression. See below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ngunjiri <ngunjiri(a)kikuyusforchange.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:05:07 +0300 Subject: {K4c} Defamatory Blog Publication by Moses Kuria & Demand For Apology To: KC4 <kikuyusforchange(a)googlegroups.com> This will most probably interest some of us, and help all of us be careful about what we write on our blogs. --- Ngunjiri [image: Issa & Co Advocates] Our Ref: M/058/001/L**** **** Tuesday, October 4, 2011**** **** Moses Kuria**** P. O. Box 1838-00200 ‘*Advance copy by email*’**** *NAIROBI***** **** Dear Sir,**** **** *RE: DEFAMATORY PUBLICATION ***** ------------------------------ We have been instructed by our clients, Wambugu Ngunjiri, Paul Muite, Ndung’u Wainaina, Maina Kiai and Hassan Omar.**** **** Our instructions are that you published in your widely read blog the following words of and concerning our clients.**** **** *‘I have said Ocampo has no case. All he has are fake witnesses coached by Hassan Omar, Wambugu Ngunjiri, Paul Muite, Ndungu Wainaina, Njonjo Mue and Maina Kiai.’***** **** Your insinuations are unfounded and baseless and our clients’ professional respective standings, characters and reputations have been severely tarnished by your publication.**** **** Our instructions are to demand a retraction, an apology and an admission of liability on your part for the publication of the defamatory words. This we hereby do. We shall address the issue of the damages payable to our clients upon receipt of your apology and admission.**** **** *NOTE* that if you do not publish an apology and retraction on your blog within the next *Seven (7) Days* of the receipt of this letter we shall proceed to the law for redress at your risk as to costs. **** **** Yours faithfully,**** *ISSA & COMPANY ADVOCATES***** **** **** *MANSUR M. ISSA***** **** cc. Clients**** **** *Issa & Co Advocates* <info(a)issadvocates.co.ke>**** ------------------------------ 5th Floor, City House, Wabera Street P.O. Box *24210 - 00100*, Nairobi, Kenya *ph*: *+ 254 20 340 150 · * *fx*: *+ 254 20 340 151* *em*: *info(a)issadvocates.co.ke · ***** ------------------------------ *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:* This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the intended recipient is authorized. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, or any information contained in this email is hereby excluded. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediatelyand do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium.**** -- --- Fear makes men act even against their own interests- changing them from men of reason to blubbering fools. -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)

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Brazilians Locked out of WhatsApp
by Mose Karanja 02 Mar '16

02 Mar '16

A Brazilian judge has ordered a 48 hour WhatsApp lockdown. The order claims WhatsApp refused to cooperate with Law Enforcement agencies on data handover. The harshness of the verdict is thus seen as a retaliation to show whois boss. However, there is the Telco Lobby pushing for regulation (that word again) of VOIP (WhatsApp calls) under the claim that Brazilians are no longer using voice calls and yet they are taxed for the spectrum which WhatsApp is not being taxed for since it is not classified as a Telco. You can read more here (in Portuguese): http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/12/1719934-justica-determina-bloq… <http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/12/1719934-justica-determina-bloq…> or here in English http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/16/brazils-congress-has-shut-down-whatsapp-to… <http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/16/brazils-congress-has-shut-down-whatsapp-to…> An Uber-moment for WhatsApp. --- Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja <https://twitter.com/Mose_Karanja> | PGP: 0x1529552F <https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=index&fingerprint=on&search=0x1529552F>

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Invitation to Media Reforms Discussion
by riva＠article19.org 29 Feb '16

29 Feb '16

Dear Colleagues, You are invited to a half-day discussion on media reforms this Thursday, 20th August from 8:30am - 12:30pm. The meeting will seek to: 1. Identify and analyse laws/policies that have been enacted in line with the Fifth Schedule of 2010 Constitution, teasing out their strengths and weaknesses in promoting Freedom of Expression and of the media 2. Identify and analyse laws/policies that have not been changed and hamper freedom of expression and of the media in Kenya 3. Examine existing institutional frameworks pointing out their strengths and weaknesses in promoting Freedom of Expression 4. Examine the impacts of non-media specific laws which effectively limit media freedom 5. Provide sound and effective policy recommendations on undertaking wholesome reforms Please find attached the concept note and confirm your availability with Tracey Ishmael (tracy(a)article19.org) or call +254727862230. Kind Regards, Riva From: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> To: riva(a)article19.org Cc: "Mose Karanja" <mosekaranja(a)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 6:23:30 AM Subject: [kictanet] Overhauled NetNeutrality Website The Global Net Neutrality Coalition has overhauled its website . Key takeaways: 1. A generally agreed upon definition of Net Neutrality in 17 languages; 2. An interactive map that shows the status of Net Neutrality around the globe; 3. A model policy framework developed by the Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality for crafting legislation and regulations; 4. Resources for global advocates fighting for a free and open Internet. The FCC in the US recently created the Open Internet Rule, the EU (28 countries) is almost there with the Digital Single Market and individual countries are busy debating this major issue on the future of Internet. I know some countries in Africa are busy on this too. However, despite there being a host of African partners in the thisisnetneutrality network (including KICTANet), none but two African countries have been featured citing ‘Research Pending’. This also happens with other indices like the Freedom House’s Internet Freedom Index and Amnesty’s. This is one area research institutions in Africa can fill up. Use the website and its resources to push for an open Internet! -- Mose Karanja +254 724 162536 | @Mose_Karanja PGP: 0x1529552F _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/riva%40article19.org The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures
by Barrack Otieno 30 Jan '16

30 Jan '16

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Yaovi Atohoun" <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> Date: Jan 29, 2016 7:25 PM Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Policy Development Process (PDP) Working Group on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures To: "AfrICANN Community List" <africann(a)afrinic.net> Cc: Dear all, The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers to serve on a PDPWorking Group (WG) to develop recommendations for New generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs) Subsequent Procedures. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-27-en Thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager – Africa ICANN – www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/africann

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[kicktanet] Node Africa launches New Era
by Martin Gicheru 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

Hi Listers, You would know about Phares and Brian, co-founders of Angani. They left and have today announced their new venture, Node Africa, that according to them deals in information management and cloud infrastructure. Here's the announcement of the launch and an exclusive interview we had with Phares. News about the launch <http://www.techweez.com/2016/01/28/angani-co-founders-node-africa-launched/> Exclusive interview with Phares on Node Africa <http://www.techweez.com/2016/01/28/phares-kaboro-node-africa-interview/> Regards, Martin Gicheru

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BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online
by James Wamathai 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

Ngigi, Sometimes it's good to put some of these things into context. Which law prohibits sharing of images that say Yassin Juma broke? Also for the guy who was arrested coz of publishing information about Kabogo and eggs. Why does the state have an interest in a case like that instead of it being a civil matter. A common thread in all this is that the intention in all these cases is to intimidate the person and others like them so that they don't share information critical to certain people. I'm not for defending people who have broken the law but it doesn't seem that any of these people have broken any laws. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:21 PM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans > online (Ngigi Waithaka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:17:06 +0300 > From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi(a)at.co.ke> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > Message-ID: > <CAMzLdAOCzOMgURMHdOW1VspEHL7LK= > f10KB_Zj0YYu61VNCYQw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mwendwa, > > I get and understand your PoV. > > But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also > misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to > spread the same fear. > > Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse of > the laws. > > Rgds > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > Yes GG, > > > > And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of > > the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other > > legislation which seek to balance these rights. > > > > But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who > > want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in > > timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms > > when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, > > and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if > > we do that, it will only be an illusion. > > > > On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that > online > > > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find > a > > > balance? #Just asking. > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > > > Kenyans online > > > From: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > CC: dmuthoni(a)gmail.com; muthoni(a)bake.or.ke; > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com > > > > > > Hi Ali, > > > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to > > > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all > > > bloggers. > > > Best, Muthoni > > > Dorcas > > > With all due respect. > > > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of > the > > > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These > > bad > > > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of > yesteryears. > > > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with > someone > > > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be > > careful we > > > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > > > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle > free > > > speech and association.Ali > > > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates > > > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > > > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > > > > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > > mine > > > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > > organizations > > > that I work with. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done > in > > the > > > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > > think > > > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing > > with > > > such bloggers. > > > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" > > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and > > prosecution > > > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > > > > > > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimida… > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya > > (BAKE) > > > > > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > > > e: muthoni(a)bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > > > > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, < > > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > wrote: > > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > > > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > > > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > > > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN > > > > > > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > > > > > > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > > > > > > From: Bobs <omondibob(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > To: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > > > > > > NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > > > > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > > > Listers, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Yaovi Atohoun <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> > > > > > >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > > > > > >> To: AfrICANN Community List <africann(a)afrinic.net> > > > > > >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application > > >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > > > >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <africann(a)afrinic.net> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes > > >> NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre > > fin > > >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront > publi?s > > >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re > > >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the > NextGen@ICANN > > >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, > Panama > > >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and > > >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March > > >> 2016. Please read more at > > >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Merci/thanks > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> Yaovi Atohoun > > > > > >> Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > > > > > >> ICANN ? www.icann.org > > > > > >> Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

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Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru
by Nanjira Sambuli 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete. ---- Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru // AllAfrica News: Kenya [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone.

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OTT Regulation: The Empire Strikes Back
by Mose Karanja 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

South Africa - 26 Jan. The Portfolio Committee on Telecommunications and Postal Services organised a public briefing on the Over-The-Top (OTT) policy and regulatory options. Internet Connection Providers (MTN, Vodafone….) claim OTT services don’t contribute financially to the local networks, don’t pay taxes, are not focused on consumer security. Their proposal: Regulate the providers just like the telcos are to equal the playing field. The OTT providers: Google (Hangouts) Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp) and Microsoft (Skype) countered these claims: Google said they pay taxes to the SA government (this is not even a matter of opinion. It is either they pay or not), Facebook pointed to the symbiotic relationship that exists between them and the Telcos seeing the data consumed while using the OTTs is clearly revenue for the telcos. On security, FB gains revenue from advertisement, not selling user data. Microsoft: Skype helps minimize communication costs for consumers. Innovators and new entrants to the market benefit more by using these services than the companies do in revenue from Skype, WhatsApp and such. Data segments in the Telcos are the fastest growing revenue bases. They should thank the OTTs for this. The Consumer: I would love to hear what consumer groups in SA had to say to the Parliamentary committee, if they were there in the first place. Clearly OTTs have slashed communication prices which ISPs have for long managed. Now that 'the times are a changing’ it is quite immoral, I dare say, for the telcos to lobby regulators help them deal with lost revenue (I prefer missed innovation). It is more like car makers asking fuel companies to compensate them since they are making profits from their products. It doesn’t work like that. Unfortunately, we this battle is seen as ISPs versus the OTT providers and not between Consumers and ISPs, the regulators might just forget who they are out to protect. Morocco suspended VOIP this month on this principle, Rwanda is thinking along those lines. Kenyan Telcos are thinking about it. We are in for a real show. For more info: http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services <http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services> --- Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja <https://twitter.com/Mose_Karanja> | PGP: 0x1529552F <https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=index&fingerprint=on&search=0x1529552F>

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Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online
by Ngigi Waithaka 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Emmanuel, No need being dramatic.... No one is suggesting anyone rights to be taken away, but I *insist* that should cut both ways... So on the same vein we cannot keep quiet when some people are sharing gory pictures of our dead heroes without due consideration of their loved ones, and neither should you, BAKE et.al... Rgds On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > So let's just give away these rights...Who needs freedom to express > themselves...Whenever we argue to handcuff ourselves back into a bottled > society where KBC is the only channel that provides the story or when we > don't like a certain politician and therefore feel that we need to hush his > sentiments we lose big time as a society in the end. We always need to > remember that politicians come and go and worse yet they are mortals...If > we make laws to target our support or opposition to certain political > view-points we lose terribly in the end for tomorrow an Idi Amin will be in > power and he will eat your lunch and not even one person will have courage > to stand up for it... > > I am always reminded of Martin Niemöller's immortal words: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a > communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I > was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did > not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I > remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for nurses and teachers and > doctors* > *I remained silent* > *I wasn't one of them (My Addition)* > > *,When they came for the ICT Practitioners, (My Addition) * > *there was no one left to speak out.* > > > Have a freedom filled day...In all things exercise moderation. > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Mwendwa, >> >> I get and understand your PoV. >> >> But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also >> misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to >> spread the same fear. >> >> Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse >> of the laws. >> >> Rgds >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Yes GG, >>> >>> And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of >>> the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other >>> legislation which seek to balance these rights. >>> >>> But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who >>> want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in >>> timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms >>> when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, >>> and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if >>> we do that, it will only be an illusion. >>> >>> On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >>> <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that >>> online >>> > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find >>> a >>> > balance? #Just asking. >>> > >>> > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 >>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of >>> > Kenyans online >>> > From: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > CC: dmuthoni(a)gmail.com; muthoni(a)bake.or.ke; >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > To: ggithaiga(a)hotmail.com >>> > >>> > Hi Ali, >>> > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to >>> > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all >>> > bloggers. >>> > Best, Muthoni >>> > Dorcas >>> > With all due respect. >>> > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of >>> the >>> > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These >>> bad >>> > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of >>> yesteryears. >>> > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with >>> someone >>> > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be >>> careful we >>> > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. >>> > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle >>> free >>> > speech and association.Ali >>> > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates >>> > >>> > Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> > Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> > >>> > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> > >>> > Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> > >>> > >>> > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are >>> purely mine >>> > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >>> organizations >>> > that I work with. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet >>> > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done >>> in the >>> > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I >>> think >>> > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing >>> with >>> > such bloggers. >>> > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" >>> > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >>> prosecution >>> > of Kenyans online. Read more here: >>> > >>> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimida… >>> > >>> > Kind regards, >>> > >>> > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >>> (BAKE) >>> > >>> > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 >>> > e: muthoni(a)bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >>> > >>> > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, < >>> kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> > wrote: >>> > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> > >>> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> > >>> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> > >>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> > >>> > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>> > >>> > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> > >>> > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Today's Topics: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN >>> > >>> > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>> > >>> > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Message: 1 >>> > >>> > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>> > >>> > From: Bobs <omondibob(a)gmail.com> >>> > >>> > To: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>> > >>> > NextGen@ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > >>> > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626(a)gmail.com> >>> > >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Listers, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > This is for your information. Thanks. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > B. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Begin forwarded message: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> From: Yaovi Atohoun <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> >>> > >>> >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >>> > >>> >> To: AfrICANN Community List <africann(a)afrinic.net> >>> > >>> >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen@ICANN Application >>> >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > >>> >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List <africann(a)afrinic.net> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >>> >> NextGen@ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre >>> fin >>> >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront >>> publi?s >>> >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >>> >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the >>> NextGen@ICANN >>> >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, >>> Panama >>> >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and >>> >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March >>> >> 2016. Please read more at >>> >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> Merci/thanks >>> > >>> >> - >>> > >>> >> Yaovi Atohoun >>> > >>> >> Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >>> > >>> >> ICANN ? www.icann.org >>> > >>> >> Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >

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