March 2013 - KICTANet

Poll Ping Pong With Kenyan Minds
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Listers, Am I the only one here that finds it extremely strange that - "the exchange between parties and IEBC is absolutely inappropriate and strange?. Shouldn't the IEBC be having top Lawyers and PR Gurus to keep such at bay - (for public interest of course ;)? Furthermore, where were the media gagging "cops" when all this was happening? Edwin

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by eonchari＠lynxbits.com 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

I AM crude in saying this but I will say it non-the-less...why are we all sugarcoating all his while we all know very well that it will come haunting us in 2017 unless we fix it now for good? The processes at IEBC are messed up PERIOD(manipulated or otherwise)!!!! Let us clean it up - NOW While cleaning it up...let us stop being selfish and put practical measures in place (devoid of political interference) to avoid the same scenario in 2017 - hire experts (foreign if need be) in this for heavens sake How difficult can that be- am sure it will cost less that 9B KSHS? Unless of course we continue leeching and hope to call upon the "usual culprits" in GOK to come to our aid!! Can't we act on our own and say - this is enough? What happens if " they" were not there? Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: ericosiakwan(a)me.comTo: eonchari(a)lynxbits.com Cc: kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: 3/7/13 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Folks: Whiles this post-motem is relevant, i think the timing is out of sync. In my view the most relevant "to do" now is "how do we get the RESULTS out PEACEFULLY and below is what i suggest members of this list consider; 1. Lets calm tempers and do our best to reduce the tension,2. Lets find ways of helping the IEBC to deliver on it's mandate of collating and declaring the results,3. Let all parties be ready to accept the results and if they are not satisfied, approach the law courts instead of the media and streets. Unfortunately, distance wont allow me to help in this exercise but i trust it can be done, peacefully. Then we can do the post-motem properly. Eric here On 7 Mar 2013, at 18:31, ICT Researcher <ict.researcher(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Time to mutually agree that those whom voted electronically continue indulging in ICT nitpicking while those whom voted manually concentrate on manual results announced by electoral authority? From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> To: ict.researcher(a)yahoo.com Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? @Edith, Safaricom cannot explain anything to do with IEBC Servers and laptops and even the Nokia phones IEBC used! I'll try to elaborate slightly: 1. Safaricom gives connectivity, much like a highway to drive on at a certain maximum speed. They ensured that IEBC got this and I must emphasize I was a witness to this, having sat with Bob Collymore and other Safaricom's top Manager at the Safaricom Network Monitoring Centre (NMC) from 6.30pm on Monday to about 8am on Tuesday. During this time, myself and other representatives of political parties and representative from IEBC had unfettered access to the NMC and the Engineers on duty to ensure there were no issues affecting the "highway". I don't remember seeing any failures on the highway, and besides there was enough redundancy in place to mitigate that. 2. Safaricom DID NOT have access to IEBC servers - which form the "backend" of the transmission system. Neither did Safaricom have access to the mobile phones that were used as "frontend". These two were communicating via a VPN. The encryption within this VPN was IEBCs business. IEBC was responsible for configuring the frontend-backend communication. When IEBCs Server disk filled up (ran out of space) it was IEBCs business to fix, not Safaricoms. I remember when results stopped trickling in, I did raise the question and CORD's representative at the NMC went to Bomas, where he got the information that there had been issues with HDD storage. I also recall Safaricom's Nzioka Waita rushing to Bomas to get to establish what the real problem was. Of course it was beyond his mandate to manage IEBC's Server. This whole s*^t is IEBCs to answer for, NOT Safaricom. Look at the failure as being on the "Submission System" (frontend-backend) and not on the highway. I am not speaking on behalf of Safaricom, but as one person who has first hand information from Safaricom's NMC while representing a political coalition's interests. Oh, and Jubilee Coalition did not send a representative. I also don't recall seeing someone representing Amani coalition, but they all had invitation to attend. On 6 March 2013 20:10, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: Despite Safaricoms press release, they were involved in transmitting the results. Can they explain why the transmission via their VPN failed? Edith From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Erik Hersman Sent: March 6, 2013 3:02 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at IEBC? Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when Presidential results are relayed electronically. Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke www.whiteafrican.com | @whiteafrican On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several integration requirements with several third party applications. The problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness process went. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: Agosta, I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke www.whiteafrican.com | @whiteafrican On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: Daudi My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election system, things fail and most times they recover. Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a fact what the problem is and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the staff there. We know them !! There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, websites etc etc Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... Thanks On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: about the RFP ... ---------------------------------------- THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND TO THIS RFP ---------------------------------------- Liko, The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. D _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ict.researcher%40yaho… The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ericosiakwan%40me.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Eric M.K Osiakwan+233244386792

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Re: [kictanet] Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

"Counting in Kenya's tightly contested election has slowed down, raising political tension in a country still scarred by the violence that broke out after the disputed 2007 poll. The two main contenders in the..." Its sad and shame to Britain. I just cut and paste these from the BBC. Is it there buainess to "kutuchunguza NA kuleta vitina " ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:07 AM PST S.M. Muraya wrote: >Actually it is "the New Yorker".... > >In their racist world, if Euros (such as the BBC reporter who claimed to >have evidence of Mungiki Meetings at State House) accuse Africans, then we >must be guilty of crimes against humanity. > >Also remember, we have a "Distinguished" Kenyan Professor of Western >"Values" in New York who believes the ICC process is more important than >the masses being restrained by our accused politicians. >On Mar 7, 2013 3:31 PM, "Sam Gichuru" <gichuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NY times call Uhuru Kenyatta an International Fugitive :) >> >> >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/when-a-criminal-leads… >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Where are the Media Owners Association (MOA) who run the presidential >> debate? Can they get together very quickly and agree on a media blackout >> for politicians sharing defeatist info. >> >> Otherwise, the principal purpose of the presidential debate and media-led >> peace campaigns might be quickly eroded...MOA led Kenya for Kenyans, Bring >> Zack Back Home and many more. I am sure they can do this. >> >> MOA has to come out and say they will cover the tallying process and >> encourage the rule of law! >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Listers,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from >>> international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of >>> information be by international media houses? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The media is represented on this list, what’s going on?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: >>> #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in >>> Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, >>> 2013: >>> Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it >>> has evidence that results are being "doctored"**** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gichuru%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warm Regards, >> ------------------------ >> Sam Gichuru >> >> >> twitter: | @samgichuru <http://twitter.com/samgichuru> >> Blog: | www.samgichuru.com >> Facebook: | Sam.gichuru <http://www.facebook.com/sam.gichuru> >> Skype: Sam.gichuru >> Cellphone: | +254-722-730565 >> >> Co-founder/ Director /Nailab Incubation >> Location: | Nairobi >> Website: | www.nailab.co.ke >> twitter: | @thenailab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Re: [kictanet] Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

"Counting in Kenya's tightly contested election has slowed down, raising political tension in a country still scarred by the violence that broke out after the disputed 2007 poll. The two main contenders in the..." Its sad and shame to Britain. I just cut and paste these from the BBC. Is it there buainess to "kutuchunguza NA kuleta vitina " ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:07 AM PST S.M. Muraya wrote: >Actually it is "the New Yorker".... > >In their racist world, if Euros (such as the BBC reporter who claimed to >have evidence of Mungiki Meetings at State House) accuse Africans, then we >must be guilty of crimes against humanity. > >Also remember, we have a "Distinguished" Kenyan Professor of Western >"Values" in New York who believes the ICC process is more important than >the masses being restrained by our accused politicians. >On Mar 7, 2013 3:31 PM, "Sam Gichuru" <gichuru(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NY times call Uhuru Kenyatta an International Fugitive :) >> >> >> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/03/when-a-criminal-leads… >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Where are the Media Owners Association (MOA) who run the presidential >> debate? Can they get together very quickly and agree on a media blackout >> for politicians sharing defeatist info. >> >> Otherwise, the principal purpose of the presidential debate and media-led >> peace campaigns might be quickly eroded...MOA led Kenya for Kenyans, Bring >> Zack Back Home and many more. I am sure they can do this. >> >> MOA has to come out and say they will cover the tallying process and >> encourage the rule of law! >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Listers,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from >>> international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of >>> information be by international media houses? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The media is represented on this list, what’s going on?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: >>> #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in >>> Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, >>> 2013: >>> Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it >>> has evidence that results are being "doctored"**** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gichuru%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warm Regards, >> ------------------------ >> Sam Gichuru >> >> >> twitter: | @samgichuru <http://twitter.com/samgichuru> >> Blog: | www.samgichuru.com >> Facebook: | Sam.gichuru <http://www.facebook.com/sam.gichuru> >> Skype: Sam.gichuru >> Cellphone: | +254-722-730565 >> >> Co-founder/ Director /Nailab Incubation >> Location: | Nairobi >> Website: | www.nailab.co.ke >> twitter: | @thenailab >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/murigi.muraya%40gmail… >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I do concur with you!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I do concur with you!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
by meshack emakunat 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

I agree! !!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote: >Dear Listers, > >Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting >him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the >results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and >the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open >public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political >parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be >unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now. > >my two cents > > >On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at >> IEBC? >> >> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology* >> >> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological >> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic >> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been >> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when >> Presidential results are relayed electronically. >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed >> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public >> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually >> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying >> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin. >> >> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several >> integration requirements with several third party applications. The >> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness >> process went. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agosta, >> >> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on >> this list we understand that better than most. However, how are you >> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong? >> >> That's really what's at issue here. It's about understanding how it >> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if >> anything) we can do. Do you find something wrong in that train of thought? >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Daudi >> >> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election >> system, things fail and most times they recover. >> >> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a >> fact what the problem is >> >> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the >> staff there. We know them !! >> >> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs, >> websites etc etc >> >> Maybe this will bring in more grants ..... >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> about the RFP ... >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL, >>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS >>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS >>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF, >>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED >>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II) >>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND >>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY >>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND >>> TO THIS RFP >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> Liko, >>> >>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election >>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans. >>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what >>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas. >>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them >>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed. >>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is >>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't >>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on. >>> >>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN >>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document. >>> >>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our >>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not. >>> >>> D >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Muthoni >> >> My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------------------------------- >> Mahatma Gandhi once said:- >> >> First they ignore you, >> Then they laugh at you, >> Then they fight you, >> AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mucheru%40google.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > >-- >Joe Mũcherũ >Regional Lead, Sub-Saharan Africa >Google Kenya >7th Floor, Purshottam Place >Westlands Road >P O Box 66217 - 00800 Westlands >Nairobi, >KENYA > >+254 20 360 1701 Office >+254 20 360 1100 Fax >+254 20 360 1000 Switch Board (Regus) > >+254 722522135 Mobile > > >http://www.google.com > >This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this >communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else, please >erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to >the wrong person. Thanks.

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Is Kenyan Media Asleep?
by Edith Adera 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Listers, With the information revolution, news makes round at the speed of light. Why should we be getting breaking news of this kind (below) from international news? Why not from our local media? Should our source of information be by international media houses? The media is represented on this list, what's going on? Agence France-Presse (@AFP) tweeted at 11:44 AM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: #BREAKING: Running mate of Kenya PM Odinga - one of the frontrunners in Monday's presidential polls - alleges vote-rigging BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Thu, Mar 07, 2013: Party of 2nd-placed candidate in Kenyan elections, Raila Odinga, says it has evidence that results are being "doctored"

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Re: [kictanet] Lessons from the failing RTS
by John Kieti 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Hey Brian, Gilda, Listers, As many have observed, there must have been a serious planning lapse or a last minute change of requirements with respect to acquisition of the Results Transmission System (RTS) component - the EVID issues aside. Drawing from experience in a Government ICT function, by the time the Request for Proposal (RFP) was issued late December 2012, the election being only two and a half months away, IEBC must have been in panic mode. In such cases the escape route is usually to ask the funding partner to use their less rigorous procedures to procure for you. So apparently IFES had to bear the risk of conducting a rushed procurement worsened by tight timelines for implementation and testing. What's interesting though is; in government, departments do not merely decide to procure goods or services. Such items-must be in an annual work plan and the procurement plan by July (start of fiscal year). What would be useful to learn from Dismas and his team is - by July 2012, what did they have in their 2012/2013 annual plans for providing the RTS service. I do not believe they deliberately waited to have an RFP issued on December 21st with a 14 calendar day submission deadline in the middle of the festive period; and for a service required exactly 2 months after RFP submission.. I look forward to seeing some of the enormous lessons that will be presented to the Kenya ICT fraternity by this seemingly unfortunate scenario. Perhaps this will be an excellent Case Study for our Universities' MSc and BSc programs. Best Regards On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Gilda, > > As facts begin to emerge, it seems that the IEBC ICT team were part of the > problem. It is therefore likely that in the age old practice of covering > their behinds, they would obfsucate the problems, even to top management in > order to buy themselves time to firefight and hopefully fix things before > they got out of hand. This time, unfortunately, the bluff didn't work, and > with the whole country watching the only sensible thing management could do > is put the system aside and stick to manual tally, which is what we have > now. > > As I have said earlier - we will need to know what happened, and we will > need to see those responsible dealt with. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gilda Odera <godera(a)skyweb.co.ke> wrote: > >> Listers, >> >> I beg to differ here. It is about time we became perfectionists and >> stopped making excuses for our failure to ensure that the system was FULLY >> functional before the actual election took place. It is true that systems >> fail but in this case, it never really worked properly RIGHT FROM THE >> ONSET. If we keep adopting this attitude that 'systems fail' how will the >> processes and efficiencies ever be improved? It is wise to accept our >> weaknesses so we can improve on them. The moment the writing was on the >> wall, IEBC ICT Team should have advised of the risk of proceeding with the >> failing system in order for them to simply announce that they would have to >> run the elections on a dully manual system-expectations must always be >> managed, especially knowing how crucial these particular elections are for >> every party. Why is it that we don't normally read that systems failed >> during elections in all other countries. Probably because they fully >> prepare and have back up systems that work I event one fails! >> >> Regards, >> >> Gilda Odera >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Erik Hersman <erik(a)zungu.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed with Evans here. >> >> Every single tech system has problems, that IEBC does as well should be >> no surprise. I've been spending last night and this morning trying to >> better understand how the IEBC's data flow works, their lack of clarity >> here is the only problem that I can find. You can see my questions, >> sources and even the IEBC RFP for the system here: >> http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/ >> >> Polling station uses Safaricom SIM cards » >> App installed in phone, proprietary software from IFES » >> Transmitted via Safaricom’s VPN » >> Servers hosted/managed by Next Technologies (needs confirmation) » >> Google hosted website at http://vote.iebc.or.ke » >> Google hosted API at http://api.iebc.or.ke >> >> You'll note that, besides the IEBC itself, there are at least 4 (large) >> organizations that have to be in sync in order for the system to work >> (Safaricom, IFES, Next Technologies, and Google). That's no small task, >> and as you can see by the list of companies involved, these are largely * >> not* local companies. >> >> >> Erik Hersman >> >> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> >> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican> >> >> On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Edith, I beg to differ. Its not ICT that has failed here. Its the >> processes. Just throwing some expensive servers and plenty of bandwidth at >> a problem will not solve it. The top leadership has to fully understand >> their organization's ICT strategy. They have to internalize the >> opportunities that technology brings to the table, as well as the inherent >> risks that come with it. This cannot be left to techies, however good they >> may be. The reason being that if the organization that you lead fails (and >> the reason was technology), its you who is answerable, not the techies. >> This is the spirit of IT Governance. >> >> It would be interesting to know if the IEBC commissioners fully >> understand the risks of the technologies that they are relying on. >> Let us not blame the technology. >> >> Evans >> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Edith Adera <eadera(a)idrc.ca> wrote: >> >>> Listers, >>> >>> It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is >>> given a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral >>> process, ICT has failed SPECTACULARLY! >>> >>> what went wrong? >>> >>> Edith >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *---------------------------------------------------- >> Kind Regards, >> Evans Ikua,* >> lanetconsulting.com, >> lpi-eastafrica.org, >> ict-innovation.fossfa.net, >> Skype: @ikuae >> Cell: +254-722-955831 >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/erik%40zungu.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> _________________ >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Gilda Odera >> >> Regards, >> >> Gilda Odera >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkieti%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- My Blog - www.gmeltdown.com ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' The ordinary just won't do

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IEBC Issues - a light note
by robert yawe 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Hi, The following link seems like a cut and post from this forum, it seems in-depth analysis and investigation are dead http://intelligencebriefs.com/?p=3413 Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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