February 2012 - KICTANet

Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 57, Issue 65
by Titus Ngeno 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 57, Issue 65
by Titus Ngeno 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Longwe, I would encourage Kenyan Banks working with the following companies to enable them fight hackers etc [Description: http://www.euronetsoftware.com/assets/images/Axiom%20Logo.JPG]<http://www.axiomc.com/index.aspx> Loyalty Management with Axiom Consulting This service provides the ability for you to present a broad customer loyalty program. [Description: http://www.euronetsoftware.com/assets/images/uni-source.jpg]<http://64.19.21.178/UniSourceCompanySite/> Collections with Uni-Source 2000, Inc. This solution helps you reduce past due loan delinquency ratios and charge offs, and improve account disposition reporting and tracking. [Description: http://www.euronetsoftware.com/assets/images/Logo%20PlusTechnologies.jpg]<http://www.plusti.com/> Fraud Monitoring with Plus Technologies & Innovations With fraud monitoring solutions you can target and manage issues that are of increasing importance in today's market such as fraud prevention, operational risk management, revenue assurance and more. [Description: http://www.euronetsoftware.com/assets/images/IBIS.png]<http://www.ibis-management.com/> SWIFT and ACH Payment Management with IBIS Management Solutions from IBIS enable your organization to gain productivity increases which in the end translates to enhanced profit margins. Titus Ngeno Ebix Inc -Corporate International -Africa Region -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+titus.ngeno=ebix.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+titus.ngeno=ebix.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:08 PM To: Titus Ngeno Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 57, Issue 65 Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Green ICT: Inside Hewlett-Packard (Interview) (James Kagwe) 2. Rwandese Hackers Hit 3 Kenyan Banks (Brian Munyao Longwe) 3. Re: Rwandese Hackers Hit 3 Kenyan Banks (Judy Okite) 4. On Kenyan Building Standards - accessibility & diversity (Matunda Nyanchama) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:03:38 +0300 From: James Kagwe <kagwejg(a)gmail.com<mailto:kagwejg@gmail.com>> To: Albert Mucunguzi <ed(a)pctechmagazine.com<mailto:ed@pctechmagazine.com>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Green ICT: Inside Hewlett-Packard (Interview) Message-ID: <4F3E17EA.7070203(a)gmail.com<mailto:4F3E17EA.7070203@gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Muchunguzi, The Green ICT area is one of great interest to me. Was just wondering on what in your opinion are the main concerns and possible research areas on Green ICT in our region. I welcome ideas from any other interested person. regards, James Kagwe On 2/13/2012 5:16 PM, Albert Mucunguzi wrote: > Dear All, > > For all interested, here is PC Tech's interview with HP's Environment > Manager (Annukka Dickens) on HP's policies on Green ICT and Climate > Change. > > http://bit.ly/zdqbhb > > Cheers. > > -- > Albert Mucunguzi > > Company URL: pctech.co.ug <http://pctech.co.ug>, pctechmagazine.com > <http://pctechmagazine.com> > Personal Web: www.almuc.me<http://www.almuc.me> <http://almuc.me> > Blog: almuc.me/blog <http://almuc.me/blog> > Twitter: @albertmuc > Facebook: facebook.com/almuc > Messenger: albertmuc(a)hotmail.com<mailto:albertmuc@hotmail.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kagwejg%40gmail.c > om > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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On Kenyan Building Standards - accessibility & diversity
by Matunda Nyanchama 17 Feb '12

17 Feb '12

Friends The recent discussion on Kenyan building standards is enlightening. Aside from safety, accessibility is another concern. I am wondering whether anyone has done a study with respect to accessibility, especially for people with handicaps (or disabilities as some term it) of one kind or the other. How business friendly, for instance, are building in our fast-growing corporate centre in Upper Hill? While working for one of the banks here in Canada, I served in the diversity committee and I am proud to say that the bank took and implemented almost all our recommendations and amended its building code accordingly. This meant all building had to have wheelchair access, parking spaces for people with disabilities, cafeteria food counters that can be reached at wheel-chair level, toilets, etc. This further extended to their ATMs (braille, wheel chair access, and keypads with digit-related sounds) and many more. Issues of disability and accommodation thereof are matter requiring attention in all our planning, be it the transportation system, buildings, name it. They are issues of diversity and inclusion, beyond ethnicity and gender. I am attaching a press release on recent doctoral thesis (which we have published a mass market paper back) that analyzes the issue of women with disabilities in Kenyan institutes of higher learning. It is insightful. Have a good weekend. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matunda Nyanchama, PhD, CISSP; mnyanchama(a)aganoconsulting.com Agano Consulting Inc.; www.aganoconsulting.com; Twitter: nmatunda; Skype: okiambe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be prepared to face ICT Security failures & know how to respond when they happen! Call: +1-888-587-1150 or info(a)aganoconsulting.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation…" - Anonymous ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including attachments, may be privileged and may contain confidential or proprietary information intended only for the addressee(s). Any other distribution, copying, use, or disclosure is unauthorized and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete the message, including any attachments, without making a copy. Thank you.

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Rwandese Hackers Hit 3 Kenyan Banks
by Brian Munyao Longwe 17 Feb '12

17 Feb '12

1. Prime Bank 2. Development Bank 3. CFC Stanbic Bank Details at: http://pastebin.com/G6GVD5sz Still shaking my head.... -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: +254715964281 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com "Give us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to stand for, because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for anything."

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Green ICT: Inside Hewlett-Packard (Interview)
by Albert Mucunguzi 17 Feb '12

17 Feb '12

Dear All, For all interested, here is PC Tech's interview with HP's Environment Manager (Annukka Dickens) on HP's policies on Green ICT and Climate Change. http://bit.ly/zdqbhb Cheers. Message body -- Albert Mucunguzi Company URL:pctech.co.ug, pctechmagazine.comPersonal Web:www.almuc.meBlog:almuc.me/blogTwitter:@albertmucFacebook:facebook.com/almucMessenger:albertmuc@hotmail.com

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Fwd: Invitation from African Broadband Forum to East Africa Com conference, Nairobi 17 April..Bill Hearmon
by Esther Wanjau 17 Feb '12

17 Feb '12

--- On Thu, 2/16/12, Esther Wanjau <estherwanjau(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Esther Wanjau <estherwanjau(a)gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Invitation from African Broadband Forum to East Africa Com conference, Nairobi 17 April..Bill Hearmon To: esther_wanjau(a)yahoo.com Date: Thursday, February 16, 2012, 12:36 AM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chairman of African Broadband Forum <chair(a)4gafrica.org> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM Subject: Invitation from African Broadband Forum to East Africa Com conference, Nairobi 17 April..Bill Hearmon To: estherwanjau(a)gmail.com Dear Esther, PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL IN YOUR COMPANY East Africa Com 2012 17-18 April 2012, Safari Park Hotel, Nairobi, Kenya THE ONLY EAST AFRICAN EVENT DEDICATED TO THE ENTIRE DIGITAL ECOSYSTEM Register to attend East Africa Com - Apply for your *FREE or discounted pass today VIP Code: EAF12/MP The East Africa region, led by Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda, has become a hotbed for digital innovation. 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to tweet or not to tweet- interesting article
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

To tweet or not to tweet: that is the question by Luca Belli <http://www.medialaws.eu/author/luca-belli/> on February 13, 2012 If William Shakespeare were drafting Hamlet’s soliloquy nowadays, he would probably rejuvenate it in this way. Indeed, the popular and omnipresent social network has recently been the object of some heated discussion over its notorious tweets. The first debate directly concerned Twitter with regard to its new policy changes, whereas the second involved the unattended juridical consequences that may follow from a tweet. *The Inquisition 2.0?* On January 26th, Twitter announced<http://blog.twitter.com/2012/01/tweets-still-must-flow.html>that thanks to its latest technology improvements, it is now able to “reactively withhold content from users in a specific country”. This is the kind of announcement that immediately triggers apprehension and censorship suspicion: indeed, why should a social network withhold content if not to restrict one’s freedom of expression? However, if one keeps on reading Twitter’s statement and further explores the policy changes, one begins to understand that, in spite of unavoidable first-impressions, these policy modifications are indeed a positive improvement. In fact, as one may read on Twitter’s blog, the removed content will be kept available in the rest of the world whereas, previously, if a court ordered to remove a tweet, this would have been removed globally. Though the new policy is clearly motivated by Twitter’s yearning for market expansion, it actually enhances freedom of speech instead of diminishing it. Indeed, being blocked on a national level, one’s “illegal” expressions will still reach the majority of tweeters (*i.e.* in any country where the same content isn’t considered as illegal) that will keep on “enjoying” the content. Moreover, the withholding procedure won’t be *a priori*: instead, it will be put in place only in response to “a valid and applicable legal request”. *Those tweets shalt be cursed!* As Cain was cursed and marked for murdering his brother Abel, a sign will be appointed to the banned tweets, so that allowed users may identify the censored content. Though this option may appear as a form of balkanization, it will actually represent a great surplus value for human rights advocates. Indeed, tweets are going to be withheld locally while visible and marked globally. Therefore, it will be much easier to demonstrate which contents are arbitrarily censored and do not fit the International standards provisions such as article 19.3 (b) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights <http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/ccpr.htm>. Twitter’s new technique will make it more difficult for authoritarian regimes to justify that harmless tweets, such as #democracy<https://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23democracy>or open invitations to peacefully gather in order to demonstrate against oppressive measures, might be removed by virtue of some *ordre public*issue. Those who will order to remove innocuous content will have to do it openly vis-à-vis the internet and international community. Furthermore, the censored tweets will be taken down or marked according to the IP address of the users. This kind of measure will leave the possibility to keep on access the obscured content by simply changing the Country Setting<https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169220-how-to-change-the-country-set…>, therefore weakening the impact of censorship. *Mind the tweet!* Another interesting episode recently involved Twitter in an indirect way. Indeed, a bizarre accident shed light on the nature of tweets and on the limits to freedom of expression that one has to take into consideration. The unfortunate event involved a couple of Irish tourists who were stopped and handcuffed<http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4095372/Twitter-news-US-bars-frie…>at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) because of their “suspicious” tweets. Indeed, as many other social networks, Twitter is monitored by a considerable number of U.S. special agents that were – probably disproportionately – alerted when they figured out that Mr. Leigh Van Bryan, an Irishman, was tweeting: “*Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy America*” After questioning the couple for some hours, and despite the fact that the two tourists stressed the euphemistic nature of the tweet, Homeland Security officials sent them back to Ireland arguing that they were not allowed into the country. Though this episode may sound really “peculiar”, it is not a first. In fact, in January 2010, another traveler had to face the unexpected consequences of his incautious tweet. This time it was Mr. Paul Chambers, a British citizen, who, according to the Guardian<http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/24/twitter-joke-trial-bomb-threat>, “had his computers and phones seized and was subsequently charged and convicted of causing a “menace” under the [U.K.] Communications Act 2003<http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127> ”. Mr. Chambers was indeed charged under “improper use of public electronic communication network” because, while colorfully complaining about snow problems at Robin Hood Airport, he expressed his disappointment asserting that were he prevented from reaching his girlfriend in Dublin, he would have “blow[n] the airport sky-high”. *A chilling effect or an Orwellian one? * Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right, enshrined in binding and enforceable proscriptions on both sides of the Atlantic (*i.e.* First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitut…>and both Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights<http://www.echr.coe.int/NR/rdonlyres/D5CC24A7-DC13-4318-B457-5C9014916D7A/0…>and Article 11 of the Charter of Fundamental rights of the European Union<http://www.europarl.europa.eu/charter/pdf/text_en.pdf> ). The aforementioned episodes might seem to signal an anti-freedom-of-expression trend. However, one has to consider that even if Human Rights are both a justification and a limitation of power, any sovereign State has the right to define restrictions on people’s freedom of expression in order to protect national security or public order. What is worth remarking is that tweets are *non*-private messages. Hence, though one may argue that this kind of network policing and freedom-of-expression limiting may trigger a chilling effect, one has to recognize that the public nature of the tweet allows every individual to “follow” it. And a “follower” may be a naïve acquaintance or a special – and slightly Orwellian – agent. -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)

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World Conference on International Telecommunications 2012 (WCIT-12): A buisnes perspective
by alice＠apc.org 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

The International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) has produced an important document concerning the World Conference on International Telecommunications 2012 (WCIT-12). This document provides useful guidance to for discussions for industry stakeholders who intend to participate at the WCIT-12. ICC submits recommendations for ITU World Conference success [http://www.iccwbo.org/policy/ebitt/index.html?id=47144] The document highlights that WCIT-12 as a critical opportunity to ensure that the International Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs) can support the future development of telecoms markets, services and technological innovation. To do this, given the contemporary pace of market change, it is vital for the ITRs to give guidance on high level strategic and policy issues relating to the provision of international telecommunications services, rather than adopting specific regulatory and technical rules. Keeping the ITRs at a strategic high level is important given the rapid pace of change in the sector, because an attempt to craft a treaty-level document that micro-manages the sector would risk either stifling the sector, or making the ITRs rapidly obsole It stresses that detailed rules for the establishment and settlement of accounting rate arrangements are no longer relevant in the contemporary competitive international marketplace, and this aspect of the ITRs should be significantly amended or removed. The ITRs should be minimalist in structure, to avoid undermining pro-competitive policies that have fuelled the massive growth of the telecommunications industry since 1988, when the ITRs were last negotiated. Another important ICC position in the paper; the ITRs should not address areas of Internet policy, such as international Internet connectivity, or the allocation of Internet addresses. Expanding the ITRs in this way would not be consistent with the Tunis Agenda agreed by heads of state at the UN World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) in 2005 — and would undermine the multistakeholder model of Internet governance, which has underpinned the success of the Internet to date. The ICC stresses that rather than expanding the ITRs to include such areas of Internet governance, pro-competitive policies in each country will best achieve practical policy objectives, such as more efficient Internet interconnection flows. The paper concludes that ITU members should remain cognizant of the appropriate limits of the ITRs, and not attempt to expand the ITRs beyond those substantive and procedural limits. This paper provides useful factual background on ITU’s WCIT conference for policymakers and businesses, especially in light of the upcoming February WCIT preparatory meetings. Please do not hesitate to contact ICC Basis for further information. Ayesha Hassan International Chamber of Commerce Senior Policy Manager ICC’s Commission on the Digital Economy Executive in charge of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT) Policy 38 Cours Albert 1er 75008 Paris, France tel: +33 1 49 53 30 13 fax: +33 1 49 53 28 59 Email: ayesha.hassan(a)iccwbo.org website: www.iccwbo.org BASIS website: http://www.iccwbo.org/basis/ --

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Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City?
by robert yawe 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

Hi again Daktari, Seems this discussion has been reduced to a two horse race, as no other lister seems to want to weigh in their two cents maybe we should take the discussion offline it will be more interesting as we can suspend decorum. In closing the public discussion I ask why didn't you pursue the approach of implementing the project in mouth size bits with the initial stage being to take over the Sameer Park as a spring board to Konza? I appreciate the politics that killed the location but wouldn't it have been more practical to change the location while maintaining the approach? My reason for bringing this up is because I have realised over time that as Kenyan's we tend to come up with grandiose plans but we seriously lack staying power, except in the marathon. President Moi reiterated this when he said "that the memory of the Kenyan is only 3 weeks long". Listers thanks for your tolerance and perseverance. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012, 16:57 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? Robert, The African story is very complicated. I do not know whether we are lazy as Hon. Kailemi Mwiria noted in his article in the Standard yesterday or we have a third world mentality in first world applications. This morning I was on KISS FM and both presenters wondered a loud how someone can walk on one of these new flyovers and hope to avoid an accident. Are we bringing modernity too quickly before our people can adopt urban life? Does this knowledge on the gap between modernity and culture stop us from doing those things that will take us forward? How does Africa adopt a Yes we can attitude? I am sure you know that I do not need anybody to bark for me. I can take care of myself. I am also quite sure that what we want to achieve in Konza is within the grasp of our knowldge to sustain it. Yes on occassions I have questioned our resolve to finish ignorance. We have spent more than 40 years fighting the same. We all have the responsibility to ensure that we deal with it as our founding fathers envisioned. In the developed world you sometimes see similar ignorance but they do not speak about it as we do. I found out that we speak because some of us are irreversible pesmists. Have some optimist day. Ndemo. > Hi Daktari, > > Thank you for the frank response to my question but I ask, now that you > know what is right why haven't you remedied the situation? > > I will give you a short story that might better explain why we cannot do > what you are proposing as relates to Konza unless we as individuals first > change within ourselves. > > As a technical manager for a IT company many years ago I kept having to > inspect equipment for cleanliness as they left the workshop going back to > the client as many of times no one took the effort to clean them well a > situation that kept pissing me off. > > While throwing aÂ tantrum about this issue it caught the attention of one > of the directors of the firm who called me to his office. Â He said > something that remains etched in my mind "how do you expect someone who > lives in an unclean environment, by your standards, to appreciate your > level of cleanliness". Â I solved the problem by implementing a procedure > on what must be done before any equipment left the premises from the > workshop. > > Daktari, as an individual I believe you share in my faith and must have an > appreciation to why a journey of a few weeks took 40 years. Â We suffer > from institutionalised mediocrity, for example,Â how doesÂ the City > Council of Nairobi on one hand say they need to reduce vehicular traffic > while on the other hand they insist that when building residential houses > be it flats or semi detached one must provide the equivalent of 1.5 > parking spaces per unit. > > From my response to Mr. Munyao, it is clear that Konza shall take > resources away from other areas which would mean the project shall not > create development rather it shall reassign development that was intended > for other areas, what is better known as a zero sum game.Â > > Machakos, Wote, Athi River and Kitengela haveÂ perennialÂ water problems > imagine how much worse the situation will get once the new City kicks off. > Â > > The countries growing demand for energy and water will not stop until > after Konza which is the reason why we must incorporate the project into > the national strategy and stop trying to built a moated castle - with time > the citizenry will build a bridge across. > > Konza is a great dream, but until all those involved get down from their > ivory towers that is all it shall remain. Â I have not asked for any > remuneration to praise, criticise or makeÂ recommendations, instead of > paying misguided individuals to try and silence my questions and your > taking pot shots at my person why not ask the simple question that I asked > Mr. Munyao - for who does he bark?Â > > Lets have a realistic week. > Â > Regards > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > ________________________________ > From: Bitange Ndemo <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Friday, 10 February 2012, 19:02 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? > > > Robert, > Thank you for the clarification. When I built my house, the priority was > to cover myself against rain and sun shine. Walls and the grills to > protect me from any lateral attack. Just like my neighbour I knew nothing > about building codes. Today I realize if there is a small fire in my > house, I will not save myself. > > Such naivety should not be replicated in public buildings in this day and > age. We must begin to develop global standards buildings. That is why > Konza is not just a new city but an exemplar. > > Regards > > > Ndemo. > Sent from my BlackBerryÂ® > ________________________________ > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:36:31 +0000 (GMT) > To: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke<bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > ReplyTo: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? > > Hi Daktri, > > Your silence was becoming a concern especially with the headline yesterday > of an impending reshuffle and or reduction of PSs. Â > > Welcome back, I see you thought this post through as it was not done on > your portable gadget. > > I will respond beginning with the last point, I am a great father and that > is not my inflated ego speaking but the opinion of my neighbours. Â My > children are the opinion leaders in their peer groups, they dictate the > groups direction, they are giving the space to speak their minds, they are > allowed to defend their positions and have been their own thinkers from an > early age. > > So Dr. Ndemo your daughter will be fortunate to have me as a father in law > and your grand children will have in me a great, insightful and broad > minded grand father which are essential to the development of mighty > leaders. > > The cost of rent is going up faster in Kenya than it is in China and you > can take that as fact not opinion because I am an active player in the > real estate realm. Â Commercial rent in Upper Hill has rising from 40/- > per square foot 5 years ago to 120/- today. Â > > The cost of land in Nanyuki 3 years ago was 120,000/- per acre, an area > that is less than 5 kilometres from the CBD, today the price is over > 600,000/-, I will not even try bringing up the issue of Kisumu as it is > literally obscene. We are not competitive at all in as far > asÂ infrastructureÂ is concerned so please lets stop deceiving ourselves > on that front, Tanzania is much cheaper and Southern Sudan is more of a > blank canvas. > > As we look at the issue of land and building note that we still build > using methods and standards that where used whenÂ BuckinghamÂ Palace was > being built, where the Chinese can build a 500 room hotel in 45 days it > would take us 3 years to do the same. Â > > The speed with which they can put up new developments complete with the > related infrastructure means that before you finish responding to this > post they will have moved 500 kilometres from Shanghai and begun building > a new city, complete with an international airport and a high speed rail > to Beijing, that will offer rents that are equivalent to one third or less > of what we shall be able to offer in Konza in 2015 (you see I can be > positive). Â The entire City will be ready for occupation before we finish > fencing Konza in 2013. > > On the man power front, we are busy churning out lawyers and > administrators clearly we are barking up the wrong tree. Â How many > lawyers and business administrators where there in the team that launched > Apple, Microsoft (1), Google, Facebook, Oracle, Amazon, MPesa, PesaPal, > Virtual City . . . Â I am sure someone is already writing a response to > this but note that the microsofts and googles of this world only brought > in the team of lawyers when they where big enough to get sued. > > Dr. Ndemo it is shocking that you can actual say on an open forum that > Kenya is unsafe and that investors should not come until the fenced City > of Konza is ready as it will offer a safe working environment. Â This is > an indication that you have moved to that exclusive 1% sector of society. > Â > > From your statement you are actually supporting and confirming what I said > in a previous post on this same issue that Konza shall be surrounded by > slums as the land around it is being subdivided into 50 ft x 100 ft plots. > Â > > As an investor I will invest elsewhere for now until Konza becomes a > reality at which point I will apply the wise man's principle "only a fool > never changes his mind" Â or the political one "in politics there are no > permanent friends or foes". Â > > Even Bill Gates, whoÂ initiallyÂ dismissed the Internet as a passing > cloud, did not hesitate to turn around and take full advantage of the new > opportunity when it became apparent, but he also realised that dealing > with IBM however lucrative it seemed on the onset was a marriage best > forgotten.Â > > My question to you and the team pushing Konza is , if today it became > clear that the project will have no viable economic impact will you be man > enough to pull the plug? > > As I indicated above we build castles which require as few entry/exit > points as possible, those in the real estate industry have been fighting > for the revision of the the building code since 1987 so as to get rid of > requirements such as the 45 degree pitched roof requirement which is > essential in countries where it snows. > > The plans for Konza will not be vetted by any new team of experts it will > be the same ones who are approving the plans for what we are building > today and what will be built tomorrow. Â City Hall Annexe, Nation Centre, > TelePosta, Nyayo House and many of the high rise buildings in the CBD are > fire traps yet they have had their occupation certificates renewed for > this year. Â Daktari I ask you,Â > > - Â does the kitchen in your house have a fire blanket and extinguisher? > Â > - Â do you have approval for the 7 foot wall around your house? > - Â when was the last time you where involved in a fire drill? > > If not you are in contravention of the council by-laws andÂ areÂ subject > to a fine and instead of us raising issues that have a direct impact on > our survival we are keeping the Council in court over issues of parking > metres and mobile toilet effluent discharge charges.Â > > I had the opportunity to see the winning design for the campus tower to be > developed at the University of Nairobi and it was most wanting. Â The > intellectual elite at the University still got swayed by pomp and colour > like in the case of Konza than function and application of global > standards. > > Strathmore University on the other hand went for the LEED certification > right from design stage, please send me the section in the Konza master > plan where LEED certification is mentioned as a requirement? Â We both > listened to the presentation about Hydrabad and the issues that arose > relating to its development how they where handled, why is it that you > refuse to carry out a SWOT analysis on the Konza project? Â We need to > move beyond dreaming towards the reality that is the Kenya we have.Â > > Listers please do not get confused with the presentation you are seeing in > the media, Konza City is still only a piece of empty land, many of you > react to my posts as if I am suggesting that we demolish an existing > structure. Â The images on TV are a simulation and are not real. > > We have massive cultural issues, baggage that we shall carry from birth to > death unless we face our demons andÂ conquer themÂ we shall not make any > progress. Â Confucius was Chinese and the Chinese child has grown on the > tenets of Confucius we have grown up on the tenets of Wangu wa Makere, > Oloibon Lenana, Lwanda Magere and Chief Nikango how can we leverage our > cultural heritage to improve our modern lives without trying to ape other > cultures? Â > > For example, it has been proven that no African dialect as a word that > means "maintenance" as we did not need it, we buried you inside your hut > and let it waste away while the Maasai . . . . > > In closing I will respond to my pet issue of my appointment as post master > general, I will start with a quote from the bible "what good can come out > of Nazareth, they said". Â > > PCK is lying flat on its back like an envelop (thanks Ntimama), so I agree > that if I was already PMG it would be on its knees today on the way to > standing up on its own two feet. Â > > Thank you for your confidence, I hope you will act on this as you push at > the next board meeting of PCK for my appointment. > > With that wise crack I clear my cache and exit the loop. > > Regards > Â > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > ________________________________ > From: "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2012, 20:39 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? > > Robert, > Had we hired you as PCK Chief with this kind of pessimism, the > organization will be on its knees.Â I see no reason for celebrating > contradictions of our policy makers.Â We have traveled this road before > and came through.Â You recall the registration of Teams that almost > derailed the entire process. > > Our culture lets us down in every aspect.Â We treasure negativity and > pray > that one falls in every positive step that is made.Â When Confucious > said, > " a journey of 1,000 miles starts with one step", he meant that that you > should not look at the challenges of covering the 1,000 miles but the > opportunities of moving at least one step.Â Yes we have seen white > elephants but that does not mean we don't try. > > Two of the world's outsourcing companies have been around searching for > real > estate to rent.Â Two months there is not one building in Nairobi that > meets international standards.Â Large buildings have only one fire escape > that if there was fire, people will die not from fire but because there is > no exit.Â Just look at any ceiling to check if there are water > sprinklers. > Some fancy buildings have only one toilet in a floor that accomodates > more than 300 people.Â I could say more.. > > Konza is not in any threat.Â This is our future where we shall create not > only employment but a safe work environment.Â I would bet that Robert > will > be among the first to seek opportunities at Konza. > > In the same paper that Robert extracted the Konza story from there was > another story about the rise of rental cost in China.Â A clear > opportunity > for us to start offering affordable destination and making it competitive > through partnership in capacity development (Read Carnigue > Mellon > University Partnership). > > Honestly as liberal I have said to myself that I will never intervere with > my daughter's choice of boyfriend but if I find her with Robert's son, I > will talk her out of it.Â Robert if you continue like this, you will make > a bad father in law. > > > > Ndemo. > > > > > >> Hi, >> >> Konza = public land = freeze by Orengo = national lands commissioner = >> spanner in the works >> >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/-/539552/1323050/-/56yje2z/-/index.htmlÃ… >> >> >> Regards >> Ã‚Â >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> >> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> >> > ________________________________ >>Â From: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 11:06 >> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? >> >> >> Robert >> Ã‚Â >> I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t argue with your pointsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ >> Ã‚Â >> We need realists. However having said that the suggestion would be to >> not >> shy aware from such developments but to ensure that mechanisms are put >> in >> place that we donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have another Buruburu, Dandora on our hands. >> > Ã‚Â >> Guys, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s good to be skeptical but its better still to offer >> solutions >> to avoid such eventualities. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why Risk Management will be a >> critical aspect of such potentially paradigm shifting endeavors. >> Ã‚Â >> Robert, we need your contrarian view points. Please do not lose that.. >> Ã‚Â >> PS. I am old enough to know what happened in EastlandsÃ¢â‚¬Â¦J >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> Ali Hussein|Managing Partner >> >> Telemedia Africa >> Azania Technology Group >> Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road >> P O BoxÃ‚Â 14556-00100 >> +254 773/713 601113 >> Nairobi, Kenya >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> From:robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:40 AM >> To: Ali Hussein >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? >> Ã‚Â >> Hussein, >> Ã‚Â >> Interesting that you bring up Buru Buru where I lived from the age of 5 >> years, when there where picket fences, kids swings, slides and nanny >> parks, until I left at the age of 18 when there were 7 foot stone fences >> with broken glass toppings, churches and bars in the places where I once >> swung, metal sheet granny houses and even entire houses demolished and >> replaced withÃ‚Â beaconÃ‚Â to beacon multi story structures. >> Ã‚Â >> Living in Buru Buru & going to school in Eastleigh I commuted from 1st >> Avenue, through Juja Road and then down Outer Ring Road watching the >> landscape > change. Ã‚Â I watched as Huruma went from a lovely middle class >> development to what it is today, Dandora transformed from a well thought >> out cluster development to the multi story structures you see today and >> then Umoja which well there is nothing to explain it. >> Ã‚Â >> All this happened right under the nose of a President, UNEP, Habitat, >> City >> Council of Nairobi, AAK, ISK, IEK, UON, Ministry of Housing, Ministry of >> Public Health, Ministry of Public Works, Parliament, Kenya Airforce and >> many others who could have stopped the carnage. Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> Go to the areas around Konza, or just read the classifieds in the >> dailies, >> and watch the subdivision of plots from the initial seven acre parcels >> to >> plots of as small as an eight of an acre (50 x 100). Ã‚Â We are already >> replicating Nairobi only that now it is being done in reverse, > beginning >> with the surrounding slums and hopefully end with the glassy >> skyscrapers. >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> The road to Konza shall be literally lined with slums andÃ‚Â shanties, >> then >> we shall have proposals to allow helipads, overpasses, windowless high >> speed trains and overhead cable cars to get the investors in and out of >> the technopolis without exposing them to the unsightly developments. >> Ã‚Â >> Also lets not forget that we have been unable to handle national >> projects >> to date yet we had a central government, come sometime in August 2013 we >> shall have 47 little governments all with their specific interests and >> agendas, what is the likelihood that Konza will get the support required >> to make it work? >> Ã‚Â >> Imagine Buru Buru happened to an estate that was fully developed, I saw >> it >> and you and many might be too young to have > lived through >> theÃ‚Â destructionÃ‚Â of a brilliant project but I was, so maybe you can >> now >> better understand my skepticism when it comes to our ability as a nation >> to control the development of a 5,000 acreÃ‚Â pieceÃ‚Â ofÃ‚Â empty >> pieceÃ‚Â land. >> Ã‚Â >> I am not a pessimist I am a realist, let the dreamers prove me wrong >> when >> I have history backing my position. >> Ã‚Â >> Regards >> Ã‚Â >> Robert Yawe >> KAY System Technologies Ltd >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 >> Kenya >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From:Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> >> To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 19:02 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? >> Ã‚Â >> Robert >> Ã‚Â >> I would like to be more optimistic about Konza.Ã‚Â >> >> What you are describing is a Buruburu type land grab and I'm sure that >> isn't what was intended for Konza. >> Ã‚Â >> Have some faith my brother... In fact I think Robert there is room for >> speculation... Though I suspect not in the way we are used to... Think >> Speculation 3.0 with a dash of new tech... :) >> Ã‚Â >> Ã‚Â >> Ali Hussein >> Managing Partner >> Telemedia Africa >> Azania Technology > GroupÃ‚Â >> +254 773/713 601113 >> Ã‚Â >> "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but >> in >> business what a man doesn't know does hurt.".Ã‚Â - E. St. Elmo Lewis, >> member, Advertising Hall of Fame >> >> On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:14 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> @Walu, >>>Ã‚Â >>>In short what the AG said was that government land cannot be assigned to >>> an individual or entity but must be offered to the general public. >>> Ã‚Â The >>> statement was initially targeted at the Airtel/Postal/IBM deal of the >>> plot opposite Yaya Centre but it spoke volumes as it gave a precedent >>> for >>> the way forward as relates to government land. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Konza is government land and is and will be governed by > the law of the >>> land as relates to such resource, therefore if Microsoft wanted to put >>> up >>> a campus in Konza on a 20 acre plot the government would have to tender >>> for its sell. >>>Ã‚Â >>>At which point Yawe and Co-speculators Inc. will tender and likely win >>> as >>> we shall play the nationalist, county and tribe card. Ã‚Â We will then >>> offer the same land to Microsoft at an inflated price who will reject >>> the >>> offer and opt to locate to the Lakeview Techno City next to RIAT with >>> views from the largest fresh water lake offering water sports. Ã‚Â >>>Ã‚Â >>>My group and I will then subdivide the 20 acres into broty of 50 x 100 >>> and sell them to the public to recover our investment. Ã‚Â Visit the >>> area >>> around Bamburi and London Distillers in Athi River/Mavoko area for a >>> living and breathing > example of what Konza will look like by the year >>> 2020, it is even more pronounced from GoogleEarth. Ã‚Â >>>Ã‚Â >>>That was the initial location of the EPZ before it was felt necessary to >>> relocate the same 2 kilometres down the road into Rift Valley Province. >>> Ã‚Â The architect of that relocation is an aspiring presidential >>> candidate, >>> what stops him from relocating Konza if he wins the election? >>>Ã‚Â >>>Let us not blind ourselves to the reality and return to the Kenya we >>> know, the EPZ continues to struggle many years later, JKIA remains with >>> hundreds of empty plots still being held onto by prospective investors >>> who where allocated the land over 30 years ago, Baba Dogo is turning >>> into >>> a large residential area and the KIE sheds in Industrial Area have >>> become >>> > stores. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Runda Closeburn will definitely fly, Tatu will limp along for a while >>> but >>> Konza will be a still birth. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Ã‚Â >>>What is the strategy for Konza and can someone answer these questions >>> for >>> us? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â will the land be sold to >>> prospective investors >>> better known as speculators or leased to investors? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â will the government >>> allocate the land to >>> prospective investors a.k.a Karurarists? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â how long will it take to >>> develop the >>> infrastructure noting that Nairobi still cannot provide sufficient >>> water, >>> sewerage services and > electricity to its residents 200 years down the >>> road? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â when the infrastructure is >>> complete and the land >>> allocated how long will it be before the first tenant moves in? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â if the first tenant moves >>> in sometime around 2030 >>> will the concept still be viable? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â is the rest of Africa, >>> Asia, Eastern Europe and >>> the Maldives sleeping? >>>Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Ã‚Â once Raila becomes >>> President, after beating a >>> joint force of Kalonzo, Uhuru & Ruto, what is the likelihood that he >>> will >>> allow that level of national resources to be > spent in that region instead >>> of relocate the same to for example Nyanza where there is already an >>> International Airport, is closer to Southern Sudan, the residents speak >>> fluent english plus has english like names to boot, it is >>> aÃ‚Â marginalizedÃ‚Â county (highest child mortality rate) and it gave >>> him >>> their vote as a block? >>>Ã‚Â >>>Until we get a comprehensive report from the various players >>> i.e.Ã‚Â treasury, ministry of information,Ã‚Â ministryÃ‚Â of lands, >>> AG's >>> Chambers, local government, county representatives and the President >>> the >>> project shall remain as dead as aÃ‚Â dodo irrespective of how many >>> flashy >>> advertisements are run by aÃ‚Â sub-entityÃ‚Â of aÃ‚Â sub-entityÃ‚Â of a >>> substantial participant in the project. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Walu, in your case which > ever way it goes nothing affects your setting up >>> a lab, but if I was the University I would look at putting up an entire >>> self sufficient campus. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Regards >>>Ã‚Â >>>PS. Ã‚Â China government is to build 1000 houses in Kisumu plus any >>> other >>> projects that they deem necessary to giving Kisumu the status becoming >>> of >>> a City. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box >>> 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>From:Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >>>To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 11:04 >>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? >>>Ã‚Â >>>@Yawe, >>> >>>u seem to b on the inside loop on this one.Ã‚Â Konza City, >>> scuttled?Ã‚Â I >>> had advised my boss to book a university lab there and now I might need >>> guidance on what next? >>> >>>And thats me as a local stakeholder, what of the international >>> stakeholders - what would they make of your statement? >>> >>>walu. >>> >>>--- On Mon, 2/6/12, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ... >>>To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>Date: Monday, February 6, 2012, 5:25 PM >>>Listers, >>>Ã‚Â >>>Are we seriously having this discussion, please leave certification to >>> institutes of education such as Universities who already issue degrees >>> in >>> computer science and the like. >>>Ã‚Â >>>This is just another tax guzzling scheme like the Konza adverts being >>> run >>> on TV yet the AG has already scuttled the project,Ã‚Â >>>Ã‚Â >>>We are aware > that all the great software applications developed over the >>> past 3 decades have been done byÃ‚Â enthusiasts or as Philip Ochieng >>> recentlyÃ‚Â clarified amateurs, a situation that is not about to change >>> any >>> time soon. >>>Ã‚Â >>>KICT eat in peace. >>>Ã‚Â >>>Regards >>>Ã‚Â >>>PS. Ã‚Â Liko lets go look for something more productive to do with our >>> time, wachana na mambo ya certification na business plans.Ã‚Â Ã‚Â >>>Ã‚Â >>>Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box >>> 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>From:Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> >>>To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>>Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2012, 14:00 >>>Subject: [kictanet] Weird Things ... >>>Ã‚Â >>>Samsung launched its 2nd Engineering Academy with a local Educational >>> Institution >>> >>>The ICT Board on the other hand is working with a Foreign Institution to >>> launch a Kenyan software development certification >>> >>>:) >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>kictanet mailing list >>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.… >>> >>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that > you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >>> respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>>-----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>_______________________________________________ >>>kictanet mailing list >>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >>> >>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >>> respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>Ã‚Â >> _______________________________________________ >>>kictanet mailing list >>>kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>>Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >>> respect >>> privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or >>> qualifications._______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT > enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, >> do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City?
by robert yawe 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

Hi, Konza = public land = freeze by Orengo = national lands commissioner = spanner in the works http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/-/539552/1323050/-/56yje2z/-/index.html Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From: Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 11:06 Subject: RE: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? Robert I can’t argue with your points… We need realists. However having said that the suggestion would be to not shy aware from such developments but to ensure that mechanisms are put in place that we don’t have another Buruburu, Dandora on our hands. Guys, it’s good to be skeptical but its better still to offer solutions to avoid such eventualities. That’s why Risk Management will be a critical aspect of such potentially paradigm shifting endeavors. Robert, we need your contrarian view points. Please do not lose that.. PS. I am old enough to know what happened in Eastlands…J Ali Hussein|Managing Partner Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road P O Box 14556-00100 +254 773/713 601113 Nairobi, Kenya Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo From:robert yawe [mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:40 AM To: Ali Hussein Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? Hussein, Interesting that you bring up Buru Buru where I lived from the age of 5 years, when there where picket fences, kids swings, slides and nanny parks, until I left at the age of 18 when there were 7 foot stone fences with broken glass toppings, churches and bars in the places where I once swung, metal sheet granny houses and even entire houses demolished and replaced with beacon to beacon multi story structures. Living in Buru Buru & going to school in Eastleigh I commuted from 1st Avenue, through Juja Road and then down Outer Ring Road watching the landscape change. I watched as Huruma went from a lovely middle class development to what it is today, Dandora transformed from a well thought out cluster development to the multi story structures you see today and then Umoja which well there is nothing to explain it. All this happened right under the nose of a President, UNEP, Habitat, City Council of Nairobi, AAK, ISK, IEK, UON, Ministry of Housing, Ministry of Public Health, Ministry of Public Works, Parliament, Kenya Airforce and many others who could have stopped the carnage. Go to the areas around Konza, or just read the classifieds in the dailies, and watch the subdivision of plots from the initial seven acre parcels to plots of as small as an eight of an acre (50 x 100). We are already replicating Nairobi only that now it is being done in reverse, beginning with the surrounding slums and hopefully end with the glassy skyscrapers. The road to Konza shall be literally lined with slums and shanties, then we shall have proposals to allow helipads, overpasses, windowless high speed trains and overhead cable cars to get the investors in and out of the technopolis without exposing them to the unsightly developments. Also lets not forget that we have been unable to handle national projects to date yet we had a central government, come sometime in August 2013 we shall have 47 little governments all with their specific interests and agendas, what is the likelihood that Konza will get the support required to make it work? Imagine Buru Buru happened to an estate that was fully developed, I saw it and you and many might be too young to have lived through the destruction of a brilliant project but I was, so maybe you can now better understand my skepticism when it comes to our ability as a nation to control the development of a 5,000 acre piece of empty piece land. I am not a pessimist I am a realist, let the dreamers prove me wrong when I have history backing my position. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From:Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 19:02 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? Robert I would like to be more optimistic about Konza. What you are describing is a Buruburu type land grab and I'm sure that isn't what was intended for Konza. Have some faith my brother... In fact I think Robert there is room for speculation... Though I suspect not in the way we are used to... Think Speculation 3.0 with a dash of new tech... :) Ali Hussein Managing Partner Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group +254 773/713 601113 "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:14 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: @Walu, > >In short what the AG said was that government land cannot be assigned to an individual or entity but must be offered to the general public. The statement was initially targeted at the Airtel/Postal/IBM deal of the plot opposite Yaya Centre but it spoke volumes as it gave a precedent for the way forward as relates to government land. > >Konza is government land and is and will be governed by the law of the land as relates to such resource, therefore if Microsoft wanted to put up a campus in Konza on a 20 acre plot the government would have to tender for its sell. > >At which point Yawe and Co-speculators Inc. will tender and likely win as we shall play the nationalist, county and tribe card. We will then offer the same land to Microsoft at an inflated price who will reject the offer and opt to locate to the Lakeview Techno City next to RIAT with views from the largest fresh water lake offering water sports. > >My group and I will then subdivide the 20 acres into broty of 50 x 100 and sell them to the public to recover our investment. Visit the area around Bamburi and London Distillers in Athi River/Mavoko area for a living and breathing example of what Konza will look like by the year 2020, it is even more pronounced from GoogleEarth. > >That was the initial location of the EPZ before it was felt necessary to relocate the same 2 kilometres down the road into Rift Valley Province. The architect of that relocation is an aspiring presidential candidate, what stops him from relocating Konza if he wins the election? > >Let us not blind ourselves to the reality and return to the Kenya we know, the EPZ continues to struggle many years later, JKIA remains with hundreds of empty plots still being held onto by prospective investors who where allocated the land over 30 years ago, Baba Dogo is turning into a large residential area and the KIE sheds in Industrial Area have become stores. > >Runda Closeburn will definitely fly, Tatu will limp along for a while but Konza will be a still birth. > > >What is the strategy for Konza and can someone answer these questions for us? > will the land be sold to prospective investors better known as speculators or leased to investors? > will the government allocate the land to prospective investors a.k.a Karurarists? > how long will it take to develop the infrastructure noting that Nairobi still cannot provide sufficient water, sewerage services and electricity to its residents 200 years down the road? > when the infrastructure is complete and the land allocated how long will it be before the first tenant moves in? > if the first tenant moves in sometime around 2030 will the concept still be viable? > is the rest of Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe and the Maldives sleeping? > once Raila becomes President, after beating a joint force of Kalonzo, Uhuru & Ruto, what is the likelihood that he will allow that level of national resources to be spent in that region instead of relocate the same to for example Nyanza where there is already an International Airport, is closer to Southern Sudan, the residents speak fluent english plus has english like names to boot, it is a marginalized county (highest child mortality rate) and it gave him their vote as a block? > >Until we get a comprehensive report from the various players i.e. treasury, ministry of information, ministry of lands, AG's Chambers, local government, county representatives and the President the project shall remain as dead as a dodo irrespective of how many flashy advertisements are run by a sub-entity of a sub-entity of a substantial participant in the project. > >Walu, in your case which ever way it goes nothing affects your setting up a lab, but if I was the University I would look at putting up an entire self sufficient campus. > >Regards > >PS. China government is to build 1000 houses in Kisumu plus any other projects that they deem necessary to giving Kisumu the status becoming of a City. > >Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > >________________________________ > >From:Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 11:04 >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ...Konza City? > >@Yawe, > >u seem to b on the inside loop on this one. Konza City, scuttled? I had advised my boss to book a university lab there and now I might need guidance on what next? > >And thats me as a local stakeholder, what of the international stakeholders - what would they make of your statement? > >walu. > >--- On Mon, 2/6/12, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Weird Things ... >To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Date: Monday, February 6, 2012, 5:25 PM >Listers, > >Are we seriously having this discussion, please leave certification to institutes of education such as Universities who already issue degrees in computer science and the like. > >This is just another tax guzzling scheme like the Konza adverts being run on TV yet the AG has already scuttled the project, > >We are aware that all the great software applications developed over the past 3 decades have been done by enthusiasts or as Philip Ochieng recently clarified amateurs, a situation that is not about to change any time soon. > >KICT eat in peace. > >Regards > >PS. Liko lets go look for something more productive to do with our time, wachana na mambo ya certification na business plans. > >Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > >________________________________ > >From:Agosta Liko <agostal(a)gmail.com> >To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk >Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2012, 14:00 >Subject: [kictanet] Weird Things ... > >Samsung launched its 2nd Engineering Academy with a local Educational Institution > >The ICT Board on the other hand is working with a Foreign Institution to launch a Kenyan software development certification > >:) > > > >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/robertyawe%40yahoo.co.… > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > >-----Inline Attachment Follows----- >_______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _______________________________________________ >kictanet mailing list >kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > >The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

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