July 2011 - KICTANet

Fw: M-PESA irregularities
by robert yawe 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Hi, I am writing this post with a heavy heart as it will likely reverse gains that have been made in the ecommerce and ebanking/mbanking environment. A client of mine, who shall remain unnamed for now in typical Kenya fashion, runs a site that accepts payments using the mpesa paybill system. Due to the close similarity in various paybill number there has been a tendency for people to send money to the account erroneously. As the errors have grown over time the client has had to come up with a way to manage the reversals so us to reduce the impact on their operations. Last week Safaricom accessed the paybill number's account and initiated reversals without notifying them. How sure is Safaricom that the person who indicated that they had sent the money to the wrong number had not already consumed services? As the post master general in waiting I am concerned that such action would have negative effect on ecommerce as reversal of a transaction based on the request of one party will definitely harm the other. The reversed transaction still incurs the owner of the paybill number a cost that is not reversed, this issue was previously raised with the former MD of Safaricom Mr. Michael Joseph who instructed one of the managers to look into and resolve. It has been over 2 years and the issue is yet to be concluded. This action also indicates the issue of Safaricom mistreating SME organisations, if the error was made with the KPLC or Co-Op Bank accounts would the staff have the audacity to make direct reversals on the system? I believe the term for such action is blatant impunity that can only be practised by a monopolistic player in an industry. With a heavy heart I send this post hoping that it will act as a wake up call both to Safaricom and the regulators (CCK & Central Bank) that we need better control and monitoring of the money transfer market otherwise we stand to scare the public which would result in its slow down. Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 ________________________________ From:Eugene Lidede (Synergy) [mailto: eugene(a)synergy.co.ke ] Sent: 04 July 2011 09:05 To: robertyawe(a)synergy.co.ke Subject: M-PESA irregularities Robert, As we spoke; i) Safaricom is now directly manipulating transactions in our M-PESA account without our consent or any manner of reference to us. Is this proper? (see red circle in picture below) ii) They never refund monies deducted from us resulting from the said reversals despite the fact that we are not party to initiating the “wrong payments” (see blue circle). These are wrong payments intended for co-op bank’s 400200 but instead sent to our 400100. iii) This issue has been outstanding since October last year during Michael Josephs days. Safaricom has refused to sort it out. Several emails to their M-PESA department regarding this issue have gone unanswered even those specifically addressed to the referenced Caroline lady. iv) With the deteriorating relationship, it might be time considered ZAP and Orange money seriously as a payment platform for our retail subscribers Regards Eugene Lidede | Chief Technology Officer | Synergy Systems Limited 6th Floor, Phoenix House, Kenyatta Ave. | Cell: +254 721 289497/476367 | Tel: +254 20 2113163 live.mystocks.co.ke | www.propertykenya.com | www.mystocks.co.ke Outstanding Online Investment Content Provider 2009– Computer Society of Kenya

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Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
by Ory Okolloh 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Re radical ideas and kids. Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-) Ory On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM, <kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: mhealth breakfast (david.simbiri(a)lixnet.net) > 2. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (Gakiria) > 3. Re: Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT (Rad!) > 4. Re: Mhealth and medical cloud services (james ratemo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000 > From: "david.simbiri(a)lixnet.net" <david.simbiri(a)lixnet.net> > To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast > Message-ID: > <mailman.102.1308034036.28988.kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 > > I confirm my attendance. > > ---------- > Sent from my Nokia Phone > > ------Original message------ > From: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast > > Listers, > My mistake on the date of this event. Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th > of June and not the 16th. > > Regards > > > Ndemo. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry? > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> > Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 > To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > Reply-To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/david.simbiri%40lixnet… > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300 > From: Gakiria <gakiria(a)gmail.com> > To: "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services > Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > confirmed, will attend > Andrew > > On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj(a)surajshah.co.ke> wrote: > > I would like to attend. ?Thanks > > > > Suraj Shah > > Corporate Affairs Manager > > Intel > > > > > > On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange(a)jambo.co.ke" <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: > > > >> Listers, > >> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on > the > >> 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted > to have > >> at list 10 of you. > >> > >> Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you > >> directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite. > >> > >> Ndemo. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Harry Delano" <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> > >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46 > >> To: <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > >> Reply-To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on > IT > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke > >> > >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for > >> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. > >> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in > support > >> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >> > >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online > >> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share > >> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not > spam, > >> do not market your wares or qualifications. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/suraj%40surajshah.co.ke > >> > >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for > >> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. > >> The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in > support > >> of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >> > >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online > >> that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share > >> knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not > spam, > >> do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/gakiria%40gmail.com > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Gakiria Andrew > Coordinator > Kenya eLearning Centre > Nairobi, KENYA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300 > From: "Rad!" <conradakunga(a)gmail.com> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India > on IT > Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with > creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the > iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook > Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to > have slowed him down any. > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then > identify > a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it > not the money. > > Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun > and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed. > > Regards > > PS. I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability > to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along > forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or > business concept. If the idea was not incubated when you where in high > school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train > has left. > > > > Robert Yawe > > KAY System Technologies Ltd > > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > > Kenya > > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> > > To: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18 > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on > IT > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > >> > >> This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop > and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work. > >> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows > great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one > of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college" > > > > What's the first step? > > > > -- > > With Regards, > > > > Phares Kariuki > > > > | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: > kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ | > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.c… > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >

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Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2011 Discussions Day 2 of 10 Mobile Payment Platforms
by Barrack Otieno 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

@ Aki, spot on , I read in another book that involvement is key to your destiny, to the youth who form majority of the innovators. As Aki puts it, involvement in policy discussions that influence how the innovations are deployed and their eventual success is no longer a luxury, the evolvement of Mpesa and the subsequent tussles between the banking and technology sector offered and interesting preview on the role of policy in safeguarding innovation, looking forward to diverse opinions from listers on the issue.. On 7/4/11, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Barrack, the future leaders of implementation and distribution of mobile > platforms and gateways will come from are iHub, Mlab, Nailab environments > etc. Yet because none of these are on online discussions such as the skunks > forum, we will have never get an input about their experiences or > difficulties or even suggestions that affects them. At some point they must > realize that governance and regulation factors can and will create blocks > because we have not written our own regulations to not only protect the > consumer but also ensure that new ideas by developers do not face any > hurdles. We may be following some rules developed by e.g. ITU and there > could be a big disconnect between what works for other countries does not > work for Kenya. > > Which then brings me to the point I raised on another thread with @Phares, > and hope we can now see the importance of online debate and discussions. On > the matter of regulation, does Kenya have a framework already developed? > > Some thoughts. > > Rgds. :-) > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Barrack Otieno > <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> Mobile payment platforms continue to offer tremendous amount of >> services and innovation, with the ability to exchange, transmit and >> store data and content embedded within payments systems. >> • What are the challenges in balancing consumer protection and >> regulatory oversight particularly regarding privacy and ownership of >> information/content and data? >> • What is the role of policy and regulation for successful >> transition >> to new mobile payment channels? >> >> the floor is open, feel free to contribute to previous topics as we >> carry on with the discussion >> >> > -- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Kenya IGF Mailing List discussions Day 1 of 10: Impact of Mobile Internet in Kenya
by Barrack Otieno 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Listers, · What role has mobile networks played in providing Internet access to Kenyan citizens and what needs to be put in place to promote mobile Internet and enhance local content development? · What initiatives are needed to ensure that sufficient spectrum is available for mobile networks to provide effective Internet access for various services? The floor is open, on Monday, which is officially day 2, we will discuss the role and impact of Mobile Payment platforms. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Khan Academy online tutorials - quite an amazing story
by Andrea Bohnstedt 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

I actually found it in the print edition in one of the last Sunday Times, but it's been covered elsewhere, too: Salman Khan worked as a hedge fund manager when he started tutoring his cousins over email and phone in maths. Then he tried out Youtube clips - that was so successful that he eventually quit his job to do this full-time. All the clips are free, so if you fancy doing a bit of maths, or want your kids to get better at it, or want to learn something else, you can find them here: http://www.khanacademy.org/ Here's his story: http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/23/technology/sal_khan_academy.fortune/index.h… Hoorah for the internet! Have a good weekend, Andrea -- Andrea Bohnstedt <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/andreabohnstedt> Publisher +254 720 960 322 www.ratio-magazine.com Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php> Find/post conferences, workshops, trainings, other business events<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/businessevents/index.php>

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF Mailing List discussions Day 1 of 10: Impact of Mobile Internet in Kenya
by Barrack Otieno 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

@ Aki, you have a point another possible hurdle would be the infighting that we have noticed among the Telcos that almost sabotaged MNP, in retrospect , i think it would be ideal for the regulator to provide this statistics to the industry. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Barrack, it would be ideal that Mobile Payment gateways to freely provide > say a quarterly analysis of the data, possibly by sectors. The only hurdle I > see with such data would be its accuracy, thus there maybe some need to > verify through some legal function before release. > > Rgds. > > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> @ Aki, thanks for your comments , quite insightfull more so the need for >> National Mobile Payments data, do you think we need an entity similar to the >> one that was created to handle porting services for this purpose, or should >> we task the regulator to provide this data? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF Mailing List discussions Day 1 of 10: Impact of Mobile Internet in Kenya
by Barrack Otieno 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

@ Aki, thanks for your comments , quite insightfull more so the need for National Mobile Payments data, do you think we need an entity similar to the one that was created to handle porting services for this purpose, or should we task the regulator to provide this data? On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:59 PM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Barrack, please find some comments inline. > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Listers, >> >> · What role has mobile networks played in providing Internet >> access to Kenyan citizens and what needs to be put in place to promote >> mobile Internet and enhance local content development? >> > > What is currently happening is that major mobile events seem to be > producing a very narrow end of results i.e mobile applications that work for > NGO or health worker type of operations. We can save lives through > reminding people when to take their medications, but we also need many other > mobile programs that have a broader impact. We need to identify what sectors > are in fundamental need of attention and develop these as a baseline. For > example, why aren't we using 3g dvb-mobile technology to stream content > between medical personnel, rapid response units and even critical areas. The > technology exists but who will do it? That is why we need funds allocations > to put such core ideas from testing, developing and into production. Let us > match the mobile sector growth with developing funds to research, create and > match the growth. Will we wait for Telcos who have different plans or > external loans to create such systems? Then we have a very long wait. > > Secondly, the National Mobile Payments gateways data is not publicly > available ( I've not seen any site publish such data ) which could provides > statistics to mobile and other developers to either improve or create newer > ways to compliment payments data. How much growth is taking place, and what > sectors that are in immediate need of such facilities is unknown so rather > than have market intelligence based on payment gateways, you may find mostly > everyone doing their own thing and not having any significant growth impact > of mobile payment platforms usage. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] Kenya IGF 2011 Mailing List Discussions
by Barrack Otieno 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

Dear Aki, Many thanks for your response, looking forwad to your resourcefullness as we carry on with the discussion in the next ten days on the KICTANET List, the proceedings will also be shared on skunkworks, with regard to the question on KeNIC , i might not be in a position of authority to respond but i would like to inform you that a presentation on the new look KeNIC website was made at the AGM last week. It was interesting to note that as registrars we will now be able to transact with the registry through our mobile phones which is a major step, i hope Paul Musee or David from KeNIC will respond to you fully. I am sure other Participants at the meeting like Mwendwa Kivuva can also bring out another angle to this. On Cloud Computing we have scheduled a day to discuss the issue comprehensively, with regard to whether the government has made it mandatory to store electronic records at a location beyond their premises, i dont think this is the case since i havent seen a component of disaster recovery planning embedded in the National ICT policy, your question brings out the need for a comprehensive disaster recovery Master Plan, i hope PS Ndemo or any lister who may be in the know could bring us upto speed with the current state of affairs. With regard to your question on broadband, we will also have a fullday to discuss broadband related issues. It is worth mentioning that earlier this year a lister (I think Harry Delano) wrote about the need for a National Broad Band Policy similar to what the FCC had come up with in the United States, i am not very sure whether Kenya will have a unique 4G/LTE scenario, i am confident there are listers in the know who will share. I saw 4G/LTE being tested in Vilnius Lithuania during the last IGF, the more reason listers are encouraged to register for the forthcoming IGF since it serves as an important platform for knowledge exchange. Best Regards On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Barrack, thank you for sharing the IGF resource and discussion. I shall be > following online, and I'd like to list some questions: > > - The first question that does come up is electronic registration of .KE > domains from a user view. Is this a system that has been implemented into > the core of KENIC so that any domain registrars can use the facility or has > the process been left to private companies to create and offer, thus > creating an un-competitive environment. I believe such a core system should > provide universal access to any kenyan domain registrars and hope there is > something in the pipeline and funds too, if not already in place. Hope this > is something we hear more about. > > - The second question is not directly related but part of cloud computing. > Has the govt now made it mandatory for companies to store electronic records > at location beyond their business premises, a planning against fire and > theft? > > - The third question is that of BroadBand. Especially for ISPs as the > market share has been dropping, is the govt going to make any concessions > for ISP groups to purchase 4g/LTE licenses to compete with Telcos? Since the > Unified licensing model allows Telcos to offer services on Wimax or other > Open bands--which does not require expensive licenses. Will change of govt > make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario? > > Rgds. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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REMINDER: 2ND AFRICA PEERING AND INTERCONNECTION FORUM (AFPIF) - RAPPEL: INSCRIPTION POUR LE 2ND FORUM SUR L'APPAIRAGE ET L'INTERCONNECTION
by Michuki Mwangi 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

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KENYA IGF 2011 MAILING LIST DISCUSSIONS
by Barrack Otieno 01 Jul '11

01 Jul '11

Dear Listers, Last year KICTANet commissioned the 3rd online discussion on Internet Governance, aimed at raising awareness, encouraging debate and discussions on Internet Governance Issues as well as identifying new emerging issues. The discussions were centered around critical Internet resources, among the issues discussed were the impact of the undersea cable, the impact of the unified licensing model, emerging policy and regulatory issues, management of the dot KE CCTLD, Adopting IPV6 Challenges and Milestones and finally electronic crimes, privacy and data security. The report was discussed in a Face to Face meeting and presented at the East African IGF that was held in Kampala Uganda. The discussions are here once more, this is a special year in that Kenya will be hosting the 6th IGF under the new five year period. *Background and Introduction to Internet Governance* The Internet Governance Forum (IGF) is a multi-stakeholder forum for policy dialogue on issues of Internet governance. It brings together all stakeholders in the internet governance debate, whether they represent governments, the private sector or civil society, including the technical and academic community, on an equal basis and through an open and inclusive process. [1] The establishment of the IGF was formally announced by the United Nations Secretary-General in July 2006 and it was first convened in October / November 2006.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum _1 The first five years were concluded with the 5th Internet Governance Forum that was held in Vilnius Lithuania. There was consensus among stakeholders on the need to renew the mandate for another five years and Kenya successfully bidded to host the 6th IGF meeting under the new five year mandate which will be held in September 2011 at the United Nations offices in Nairobi. Registration for the meeting is ongoing more details available on www.intgovforum.org and www.igf.or.ke (Host country website). KICTANET is going to hold an online discussion for 10 days starting on July 1 - to July 11, 2011. The discussion will be moderated by Barrack Otieno and Grace Githaiga. The report will be presented at a Face to Face meeting after validation slated for 15 th July 2011, more details will be availed in due course. Over the ten day period, we will discuss the following issues: - The Impact of Mobile Internet in Kenya - Cloud Computing - Cyber Security and Privacy - Broadband - Principles of Internet Policy Making. We look forward to a stimulating debate from you listers. Attached please find last years report -- Barrack O. Otieno

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