September 2010 - KICTANet

The Safaricom money machine
by robert yawe 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

Hi, I have noted that when you send money from mpesa to the wrong number and you request for the transaction to be reversed you do not recover the transaction costs. When a line with credit is deactivated what happens to the credit? With the banks a new policy requires that funds from inactive accounts need to be remitted to Central Bank. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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2010 IGF Remote participation HUB in Nairobi - 16th to 17th Sept.
by Joe Kiragu 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) in conjunction with Multimedia University will be hosting a remote participation HUB at The KeNIC Offices from 16th September 2010 - 17th September 2010. The remote participation was earlier scheduled to take place at the Multimedia University, but has been changed due to technical issues. You can follow 5th IGF sessions on Webcast http://webcast.intgovforum.org/ Please also double check the official IGF schedule at: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2010/schedule/WorkshopSchedule_Vilnius201009… Regards, Joe Kiragu KENIC -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KeNIC MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)

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Fw: Re: The Safaricom money machine
by Michael Ouma 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

Michael Ouma Journalist Kenya Tel:+254-725-537823 "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Michael Ouma <benomnta(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: Michael Ouma <benomnta(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Safaricom money machine To: "Andrea Bohnstedt" <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 3:46 AM Hi ALL: why is it that Ms Andrea Bohnstedt is always supporting Safaricom on any issue raised on this list even before the company itself can say anything? just curiuos.....!!!! Michael Ouma Journalist Kenya Tel:+254-725-537823 "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> wrote: From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] The Safaricom money machine To: benomnta(a)yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 2:53 AM I'm not really sure what your point is. If I intend to give cash to Otieno, and instead send it to Amondi, that's not the mobile money operator's fault. It's my own fault. The M-PESA menu instructs you to enter the recipient's phone number. What more clarity to you need? (and yes, I think it'd be useful to be able to enter phone numbers straight from my directory on my phone). By providing an avenue to obtain a reversal of wrongly sent money, the operator has met its obligations. This is not 'cashing in on ignorance'. On 15 September 2010 12:44, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: In other words they are not non-issues Andrea, to learn you must risk looking silly which is what we are trying here, so when a telco cashes on the citizens ignorance who defends them? that is impunity! On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> wrote: Both non-issues, I think: For whatever evils you want to blame on Safaricom (global warming? end of civilisation as we know it? feminism?), you can't really blame them for your own inability to enter the phone number of the intended recipient correctly. And I say this as someone who has broken up larger M-PESA payments in two amounts because I was too freaked out that I'd accidentally send the money to the wrong person. And deactivated lines: If you want to deactivate your Safcom line, take the money out of your MPESA. Easy. It won't get disconnected by CCK for failure to register it because the registration process for M-PESA doubles up as your SIM card registration. If CCK disconnects your line because you've been found to demand ransom M-PESA payments for abducting kids, you have other problems. On 15 September 2010 10:41, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hi, I have noted that when you send money from mpesa to the wrong number and you request for the transaction to be reversed you do not recover the transaction costs. When a line with credit is deactivated what happens to the credit? With the banks a new policy requires that funds from inactive accounts need to be remitted to Central Bank. Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40rat… -- Andrea Bohnstedt Publisher +254 720 960 322 www.ratio-magazine.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail… -- Barrack O. Otieno +41767892272 Skype: barrack.otieno -- Andrea Bohnstedt Publisher +254 720 960 322 www.ratio-magazine.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet This message was sent to: benomnta(a)yahoo.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/benomnta%40yahoo.com

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IGF in Kenya in 2011
by McTim 15 Sep '10

15 Sep '10

So if Kenya will host the IGF next year, the first choice would be Nairobi. Since it is a somewhat UN conference, they may want to hold it at the UN here, which would be a nightmare in terms of logistics. Am curious if there are any facilities at the Coast that would be suitable...like 2 or 3 big hotels in close proximity to each other, all with conference facilities??? Instead of suits and ties, we would see more casual dress codes (like at most other Internet Goverannce meetings). Feedback? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Mentorship
by Grace Bomu 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Looking back at the wonderful people, ideas and opportunities that one gets to experience at the IGF, I just want to register my heartfelt appreciation to all the more experienced :) Kenyans who take time off their work to mentor the youth. It is indeed great to be able to discuss IG matters, while quoting some of your speeches, presentations, emails at this list or simply having face to face conversations on policy making processes. I know I am fortunate to have received such mentorship and I hope this will be extended to other young people in this area. Infact, I hope that someday the KICTANet list will have some sort of a mentorship programme. Thanks again people! -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu)

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ICANN CEO says multi-stakeholder model of Internet Governance under threat
by Harry Hare 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

FYI, from the ongoing IGF in Vilnius, Lithuania. http://tinyurl.com/2uvebmx Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

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Re: [kictanet] [wiu-forum] Fwd: 5th Global IGF, Vilnius - Remote participation HUB in Nairobi
by Joe Kiragu 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Regional Perspective on 11:30 - 13:00 WEBCAST: http://webcast.intgovforum.org/#floor Workshop Number: 87 11:30 - 13:00 Title: IPv6 Around The World: Surveying the Current and Future Deployment of IPv6 WEBCAST: http://webcast.intgovforum.org/#room3 > Mctim - the link works well > > Waudo > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04 +0300, "McTim" <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> webcasts at: >> >> http://webcast.intgovforum.org >> >> this link doesn't appear on the RP page. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: emailsignet(a)mailcan.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.… >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kiragu(a)kenic.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kiragu%40kenic.or.ke ) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KeNIC MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)

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Re: [kictanet] [wiu-forum] Fwd: 5th Global IGF, Vilnius - Remote participation HUB in Nairobi
by McTim 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

webcasts at: http://webcast.intgovforum.org this link doesn't appear on the RP page. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Re: [kictanet] 5th Global IGF, Vilnius - Remote participation HUB in Nairobi
by Joe Kiragu 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Dear Lister's, Live transcription will be available online for 5th IGF in Vilnius see details on http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/remote-participation Tuesday 14th September 2010 - 9:00 AM - 11:00 AM Workshop Number: 63 Title: Strengthening ccTLD's in Africa Live transcription:http://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=IGF4&chat=false More Details on http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSPr… Full Meeting Schedule available on http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2010/schedule/WorkshopSchedule_Vilnius201009… Regards, Joe > Dear Listers, > > Remote participants will be able to follow the meeting taking place in > Vilnius by watching videocasts or listening to audiocasts from the > meeting rooms and reading real-time closed captioning. > > Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) in conjunction with > Multimedia University will be hosting a remote participation HUB at > The Multimedia University, Mbagathi, Magadi road from 14th September > 2010 - 17 September 2010 at the University conference facilities. > > Participants who would like to participate at the Kenya IGF HUB please > register be sending an email to remote(a)eaigf.or.ke > > Remote participants will be able to interact with the meeting by > sending text questions, using the remote participation platform > (Webex). These questions will be forwarded to the panel moderator when > he/she opens the floor for questions from the audience. > > Hubs are also encouraged to send short pre-recorded video questions or > statement (2-3 min) outlining key issues on the local discussion > agenda. Hubs will be also allowed to join with real-time video message. > The links to access each meeting room will be provided before the IGF. > Remote participants should take a look at the IGF schedule available > here to see the room and the time of the session they would like to > follow. > > In order to convert Vilnius local time into your time zone, you can > visit this website. > > During the IGF, you can also use social network platforms to take part > in the Internet Governance Dialogue: > > > Share your views in Twitter: #IGF10 > Share your video in Youtube > Share your pictures in Flickr > Leave messages in Facebook > More information on Remote hub: Nairobi, Kenya > > Institution: > Multimedia University ( By Kenya Network Information Centre) > Number of Expected Participants within the Hub: > 100 > Possible area(s) of interest within the 5 main IGF themes: > .Security, openness and privacy, Access and diversity > .Managing critical Internet resources > .Internet governance for development (IG4D), > .Taking stock of Internet governance and the way forward, > .Emerging issues: cloud computing. > Planned Pre-meeting activities: . > Kenya Internet Governance Forum - 29th July 2010, Nairobi > .East Africa Internet Governance Forum (EA-IGF) - 111-13 August 2010, > Kampala Uganda > Hub Coordinator: > Joe Kiragu, Administrative Manager/ Paul Museeh, Technical Manager > Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) > > > Regards, > > Joe Kiragu > Administrative Maanger > Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) > kiragu(a)kenic.or.ke > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: kiragu(a)kenic.or.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kiragu%40kenic.or.ke -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by KeNIC MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)

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Zain Adverts against Safaricom (on Google Ads)
by Wainaina Mungai 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Is it ethical for Zain to use a green SIM card in it's online adverts (google ads) as per the attached screenshot? i.e. "Is your SIM eating too much money?" Shouldn't they just sell their service instead of a constant anti-Safaricom pitch?..inspite of any issues customers may have vs. safaricom rates? WM

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