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Fwd: *Meeting Reminder* Skunkworks Meeting, 11th May, 2010, Paul Kukubo, Talking Business in IT
by Phares Kariuki 08 May '10

08 May '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM Subject: *Meeting Reminder* Skunkworks Meeting, 11th May, 2010, Paul Kukubo, Talking Business in IT To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Hi, A reminder, Paul Kukubo, the CEO of the Kenya ICT Board, will be the main speaker at the Skunkworks meeting on Tuesday the 11th of May 2010. Entrance as always is free, meeting starts at 6pm, Teleposta Tower's 4th Floor. MMU. Thanks to Paul Kukubo for availing the time to speak to us and to the Multimedia University, who, as always, have been more than gracious hosts. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?
by Solomon Mburu Kamau 08 May '10

08 May '10

This is great Angela. I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying foul. On 06/05/2010, Carole K <mhariricarole(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed about > this new "unfair" regulation. > > CK > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo < > anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations. >> >> Regards, >> >> logo2 >> >> >> >> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo >> >> Head of Corporate Communications >> >> Landline: + 254 20 3232011 >> >> Orange Fixed Plus : +254 20 2454233 >> >> Orange Mobile: +254 772 548 066 >> >> Email : anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke >> >> cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net >> [mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of >> bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM >> To: Andrea Bohnstedt >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users >> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs >> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? >> >> Will send it tomorrow. >> >> >> Ndemo. >> >> >> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of your >> > colleagues >> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit nicer >> on >> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper copies. >> > >> > Thanks, Andrea >> > >> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> >> the drama continues, >> >> >> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and Zain >> support >> >> the >> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's complaint. All >> these >> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they are >> >> arguing >> >> about! >> >> >> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at the >> >> Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo? Assuming I leave in >> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and pickup >> some >> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? >> >> >> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your >> eGovernment >> >> stories? >> >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? >> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM >> >> >> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily Nation. They >> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have searched >> >> www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed. >> >> >> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can plse >> >> update. >> >> >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan >> et.or.ke> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> >> This message was sent to: >> >> jwalu(a)yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> kictanet mailing list >> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> >> This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40 >> ratio-magazine.com<http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andrea Bohnstedt >> > Publisher >> > +254 720 960 322 >> > www.ratio-magazine.com >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------- >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> > believed to be clean. >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > "easy access to the world" >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > kictanet mailing list >> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> > >> > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke >> > Unsubscribe or change your options at >> > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co. >> ke >> > >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> --------------------------------------------- >> "easy access to the world" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ke-internetusers mailing list >> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net >> http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers >> >> >> ##################################################################################### >> Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal's comprehensive email content security >> solution. >> Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com >> >> ##################################################################################### >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ke-internetusers mailing list >> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net >> http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers >> >> > -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau P.O. 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Re: [kictanet] Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom
by emmanuel.khisa＠kadet.co.ke 07 May '10

07 May '10

Wow...Thanks Andrea, goes a long way to show just how defeatist the press releases by the "miserable trio" are. Again...thanks to technology we can dig through the past to inform the future...Quite amusing. Rgds, EK > -------Original Message------- > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com> > To: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom > Sent: May 07 '10 14:57 > > Amusing little factoid: > > In 2004, when Celtel acquired Kencell: > 'Kencell, with about 1.2 million subscribers, has recently lost market > share to rival Safaricom, a joint venture of Kenya's state-owned Telkom > Kenya and Britain's Vodafone. Safaricom's subscribers have grown to > 1.8 million, increasing its share to 60% from about 50%. > > So Celtel/Zain managed to work their way down from 50% to 14% or so over > the past six years. Must have been quite a slippery playing field. > > ([LINK: > http://www.regulateonline.org/2003/intelecon/2004/May/A-Kenya-040525.htm] > http://www.regulateonline.org/2003/intelecon/2004/May/A-Kenya-040525.htm) > > > On 7 May 2010 17:38, Walubengo J <[LINK: mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com] > jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > MM, > > this Kwame guy is an interesting read!. One amusing message I picked says > that the regulator should be protecting consumers - not competitors ;-) > > ..and from the "streets" some analyst said that Safcom may have exploited > its dominance position; but that was in the beginning (ref: interconnection > tariff wars with Kencell 6-8yrs ago). Currently, it will be a tall order to > get evidence of the yet to be defined "exploiting" dominance postion" > > walu. > > --- On FRI, 5/7/10, MURIUKI MUREITHI _<[LINK: > MAILTO:MUREITHI@SUMMITSTRATEGIES.CO.KE] > MUREITHI(a)SUMMITSTRATEGIES.CO.KE>_ wrote: > > From: muriuki mureithi <[LINK: mailto:mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke] > mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK > vs Safaricom > To: [LINK: mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com] jwalu(a)yahoo.com > Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <[LINK: > mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke] kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, > "'ke-users'" <[LINK: mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net] > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 3:32 PM > > > Kui > > For� a local context � from an economic perspective , read the attached > > > Regards > > Muriuki Mureithi > > � > > > FROM: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=[LINK: http://summitstrategies.co.ke] > summitstrategies.co.ke@[LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke] > lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:[LINK: mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bmureithi] > kictanet-bounces+mureithi=[LINK: http://summitstrategies.co.ke] > summitstrategies.co.ke@[LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke] > lists.kictanet.or.ke] ON BEHALF OF John Kariuki > SENT: 07 May 2010 08:09 > TO: [LINK: mailto:mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke] > mureithi(a)summitstrategies.co.ke > CC: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users > SUBJECT: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - > CCK vs Safaricom > > � > > > Kui, > > For some background information� on Competition, Dominance,etc you could > check on the following information resources which should be available > on-line: > > 1.Oftel, January 2000- The application of the Competition Act in > Telecommunications Sector. > > 2. INTUG - Anti-Competitive Conduct and Competition Policy in > Telecommunications,ITU,Geneva 22 Nov.2002 > > [LINK: http://3.EU] 3.EU Directive 2002/19/EC 0f 7/3/2002 (Access > Directive) > > 4. European Court of Justice in " United Brands v. Commission(1978) ECR. > 207 > > 5.Telecommunication Regulation Handbook(Module 5 - Competition Policy) by > INFODEV, > > > Good� Luck, > > John Kariuki > > --- On THU, 6/5/10, MARIE-ANNE KINYANJUI _<[LINK: > MAILTO:MKINYANJUI@NATION.CO.KE] MKINYANJUI(a)NATION.CO.KE>_ wrote: > > > From: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui <[LINK: mailto:mkinyanjui@nation.co.ke] > mkinyanjui(a)nation.co.ke> > Subject: [ke-internetusers] {HIJACK} Call for opinions - CCK vs Safaricom > To: "McTim" <[LINK: mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com] dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <[LINK: > mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke] kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, > "ke-users" <[LINK: mailto:ke-internetusers@bdix.net] > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Thursday, 6 May, 2010, 8:47 > > > Is there anyone on the list with a firm grasp of the industry (and who is > not directly involved :-) who is wiling to offer their objective views on > this subject for publication in Business Daily? > 400-600 words please. > > Thanks. > > Kui Kinyanjui > Business Daily > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=nation.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:[LINK: mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bmkinyanjui] > kictanet-bounces+mkinyanjui=nation.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf > Of McTim > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:15 AM > To: Marie-Anne Kinyanjui > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users; Angela Nganga- Mumo > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs > Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau > <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > This is great Angela. > > I really need to know why the 'big boy' is suddenly crying > foul. > > > Let's re-examine our assumptions of who the "Big Boy" in the Kenyan > Telecommunications market is. > > The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Telkom.Orange (and may in > future own a majority share).� When Orange makes a profit, so do its > owners. > > The GoK owns a huge minority shareholding in Safaricom.� When SafCom > makes a profit, so do its owners. > > The GoK collects a tremendous amount of VAT and other taxes from the > telecoms market players. > > The GoK collects a tremendous amount of license fees and frequencies > fees from the telecoms market players. > > The GoK sets policy via the CCK and the Ministry. > > So from my POV, the GoK is the BIG BOY, it seems to me that this is > the "elephant in the room" that no one is talking about. > > In any case on this specific regulation, I applaud the intent of > creating a level playing field.� However, I see no monetary "teeth" or > enforcement measures (read fines) in this single doc (I have yet to > read the others). > > My main objection is the 25% rule.� My reading of this is that there > MUST always be at least one dominant provider.� Let me use a poker > game analogy to make my point.� Before the first hand is dealt, all > players will have an equal amount of chips.� After the first hand (and > subsequent hands) there will (most likely) be a "chip leader" and a > "short stack".� It is not likely that there will ever be equilibrium > in the game (or in the telecoms market). > > I would suggest that this clause is not helpful, at least at the 25% > value at which the trigger is now set. > > No wonder Safaricom is complaining. > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."� Jon Postel > > > > > > On 06/05/2010, Carole K <mhariricarole(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Angela, you are a star! The rest of us can now be informed > about > >> this new "unfair" regulation. > >> > >> CK > >> > >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Angela Nganga- Mumo < > >> anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> Please find a PDF copy of the regulations. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>>� logo2 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo > >>> > >>> Head of Corporate Communications > >>> > >>> Landline:� � � � � � � � � � � + 254 20 3232011 > >>> > >>> Orange Fixed Plus :� � � � � +254 20 2454233 > >>> > >>> Orange Mobile:� � � � � � � � � +254 772 548 066 > >>> > >>> Email :� � � � � � � � � � � > � � � anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke > >>> > >>>� cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0 > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net > >>> [mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of > >>> bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM > >>> To: Andrea Bohnstedt > >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users > >>> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs > >>> Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > >>> > >>> Will send it tomorrow. > >>> > >>> > >>> Ndemo. > >>> > >>> > >>> > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of > your > >>> > colleagues > >>> > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit > nicer > >>> on > >>> > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper > copies. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, Andrea > >>> > > >>> > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> the drama continues, > >>> >> > >>> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and > Zain > >>> support > >>> >> the > >>> >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's > complaint.� All > >>> these > >>> >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they > are > >>> >> arguing > >>> >> about! > >>> >> > >>> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at > the > >>> >> Government Printers at a small fee.� Halloo? Assuming I leave in > >>> >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and > pickup > >>> some > >>> >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? > >>> >> > >>> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your > >>> eGovernment > >>> >> stories? > >>> >> > >>> >> walu. > >>> >> > >>> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > >>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? > >>> >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > >>> >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > >>> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM > >>> >> > >>> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily > Nation.� They > >>> >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have > searched > >>> >> [LINK: http://www.cck.go.ke] www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them > but failed. > >>> >> > >>> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can > plse > >>> >> update. > >>> >> > >>> >> walu. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> kictanet mailing list > >>> >> > >>> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<[LINK: > http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan] > http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan > >>> [LINK: http://et.or.ke] et.or.ke> > >>> >> [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> >> > >>> >> This message was sent to: > >>> >> jwalu(a)yahoo.com<[LINK: http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com] > http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> > >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> >> > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> kictanet mailing list > >>> >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> >> [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> >> > >>> >> This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com > >>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> >> > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40 > >>> [LINK: http://ratio-magazine.com] ratio-magazine.com<[LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40%0A…> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Andrea Bohnstedt > >>> > Publisher > >>> > +254 720 960 322 > >>> > [LINK: http://www.ratio-magazine.com] www.ratio-magazine.com > >>> > > >>> > ---------------------------------------------- > >>> > This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>> > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > >>> > believed to be clean. > >>> > --------------------------------------------- > >>> > "easy access to the world" > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > kictanet mailing list > >>> > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > [LINK: http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > > >>> > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > >>> > Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > > >>> [LINK: > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co] > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co. > >>> ke > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------- > >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >>> dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > >>> believed to be clean. > >>> --------------------------------------------- > >>> "easy access to the world" > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> ke-internetusers mailing list > >>> ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > >>> [LINK: http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers] > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > >>> > >>> > >>> > ##################################################################################### > >>> Scanned by MailMarshal - 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PS roots for local digital content at Tandaa Symposium
by Harry Hare 06 May '10

06 May '10

FYI http://tinyurl.com/2w77zg Harry African eDevelopment Resource Centre eDevelopment House : : 604 Limuru Road Old Muthaiga : : P O Box 49475 00100 Nairobi : : Kenya T +254 20 3741646/7 : : C +254 725 650044 Training : : Research: :Consultancy: : Publishing

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Safcom vs the Rest? Or is it a Case of Ownership Model
by emmanuel.khisa＠kadet.co.ke 06 May '10

06 May '10

There seems to be alot of heat regarding the new regulations, quite frankly the three other players aside from Safaricom are just not getting some things right, in the process they are engaging themselves in this defeatist celebration. I live it to time to inform us on who will really win in this war. My contention with the whole local Telco Industry is the infiltration of the Foreigners. I dare say here that no more than 49 percent of our mobile network operators should be owned by foreigners. The evidence is all clear, companies run by majority local holding have much better understanding of consumer needs and local dynamics and this visible in banking the Equity Banks, KCB, Family Bank. So that while the big multinationals come in reep big monies and leave, the local entities focus on reaching the remote villages. If anyone recalls isnt that the same strategy Safaricom employed and nailed it when the then KENCELL was too busy with focussing on urban elite. I therefore am of the view that next telcomms and generally ICT licensing whose target is to change the local game must not allow these Foreign Acquisition. I may be wrong but since the 90s am yet to see a local entity taken over by foreigners that stood strong there after....and sadly many cases stand as witness...Africa Online, RVR, Telkom..(Can I say Telkom again)...far too many excuses, very little to write home about. So the root is in the ownership model at inception or at acquisition. I suggest that we move from 30% local ownership to 51%+ in order to have some semblance of control in what these foreign boards are deciding for this market. Whether that is practical I don't know. Finally if MJ is reading this email, I'd urge, ignore the detractors and do what you do best, solutions to the market that make sense. DON'T GET TIED DOWN in trying to state your case. Majority of Kenyans are behind,,, :-) Just spoke like a politician there! My > -------Original Message------- > From: Harry Delano <harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke> > To: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke>, 'ke-users' <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > Sent: May 05 '10 18:55 > > > I suppose the ultimate customer need to be at the heart of it all, so that > it does not > turn into a 'hide and seek' that we are engaging in. I suppose a number of > things need > to be clarified to all the main players in this market on why we should take > up such a > policy line, for whose benefit is intended, and how it will foster growth > and progress > in the sector, and for the overall country's economy. These are the > ingredients. > > Regards, > Harry > > -----Original Message----- > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On > Behalf Of godera(a)skyweb.co.ke > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:38 PM > To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? > > > > Listers, > > Did anyone listen to Michael Joseph on Radio this morning, concerning this > dispute? > Frankly I was rather taken aback by some of the things he stated the new > regulations require Safaricom to do, among them giving notice to competitors > whenever they plan to hold promotions! > In my view and I stand to be corrected, the solution to all this is enabling > number portability and may the best company win or retain the subscribers. > Something tells me that Safaricom would infact gain more subscribers! > On another note, soon after Michael Joseph's interview, the news headline > stated that the DG of CCK had stated that Safaricom was not affected by this > regulation because "CCK had not yet declared Safaricom the dominant player". > > Can anyone explain what is going on? > > > Gilda > > > Quoting Kamotho Njenga <kamothonjenga(a)gmail.com>: > > > Walu, > > > > Dont bother to leave Lokichogigio. Trust me to get you the regulations > > at your utmost convenience. As a way of balancing the equation I hope > > that the small fee you contemplated paying to the government printer > > will be credited to my account once you access the gazette notices > > from http://www.kenyalaw.org/LegalNotices/ > > > > Kamotho Njenga > > > > On 5/4/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > the drama continues, > > > > > > in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and Zain > > > support > > the > > > CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's complaint. All > > > these without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what > > > they are > > arguing > > > about! > > > > > > Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at the > > > Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo? Assuming I leave in > > > Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and pickup > > > some hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? > > > > > > Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your > > > eGovernment stories? > > > > > > walu. > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? > > > To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > > > <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM > > > > > > Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily Nation. > > > They quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have > > > searched www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed. > > > > > > Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can plse > > update. > > > > > > walu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kict > > anet.or.ke> > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > This message was sent to: > > jwalu(a)yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.c > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > This message was sent to: kamothonjenga(a)gmail.com Unsubscribe or > > > change your options at > > > > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kamothonjenga%40g > > mail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Unsubscribe or change your > options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/harry%40comtelsys.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: emmanuel.khisa(a)kadet.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emmanuel.khisa%40kadet… >

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Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest?
by Angela Nganga- Mumo 06 May '10

06 May '10

Dear All, Please find a PDF copy of the regulations. Regards, logo2 Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo Head of Corporate Communications Landline: + 254 20 3232011 Orange Fixed Plus : +254 20 2454233 Orange Mobile: +254 772 548 066 Email : anganga(a)orange-tkl.co.ke cid:image003.jpg@01C9FEEE.6AAFAFA0 -----Original Message----- From: ke-internetusers-bounces(a)bdix.net [mailto:ke-internetusers-bounces@bdix.net] On Behalf Of bitange(a)jambo.co.ke Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:41 PM To: Andrea Bohnstedt Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke-users Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom?- and now Safcom vs the Rest? Will send it tomorrow. Ndemo. > I'd like to see the text, too. Dr Ndemo, could you or one of your > colleagues > email round a pdf with the regulations, please? Easier and a bit nicer on > the environment than all of us running downtown to buy paper copies. > > Thanks, Andrea > > On 4 May 2010 09:32, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> the drama continues, >> >> in a louder paid-up advert in today's press Yu, Orange and Zain support >> the >> CCK regulations and dispute yesterday's Safcom's complaint. All these >> without the public (or is it me?) not having copies of what they are >> arguing >> about! >> >> Someone told me the copies of this regulations are available at the >> Government Printers at a small fee. Halloo? Assuming I leave in >> Lokichoggio, Should i spend two days on the road to come and pickup some >> hard-copy regulations that should be downloadable? >> >> Sergon, can you help me, where does this leave you with your eGovernment >> stories? >> >> walu. >> >> --- On *Mon, 5/3/10, Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CCK vs Safaricom? >> To: jwalu(a)yahoo.com >> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 10:55 AM >> >> Just seen a loud complaint from Safcom in today's Daily Nation. They >> quoted four regulations that have been gazetted and I have searched >> www.cck.go.ke to get a mouse on them but failed. >> >> Anybody with e-copies on these regulations or specific url can plse >> update. >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictan et.or.ke> >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: >> jwalu(a)yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> This message was sent to: andrea.bohnstedt(a)ratio-magazine.com >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/andrea.bohnstedt%40 ratio-magazine.com >> >> > > > -- > Andrea Bohnstedt > Publisher > +254 720 960 322 > www.ratio-magazine.com > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > --------------------------------------------- > "easy access to the world" > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > This message was sent to: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co. ke > ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world" _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers ##################################################################################### Scanned by MailMarshal - Marshal's comprehensive email content security solution. Download a free evaluation of MailMarshal at www.marshal.com #####################################################################################

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Tender for Supplying Video Conferencing Equipment to Govt of Southern Sudan (2nd Call)
by Shem Ochuodho 06 May '10

06 May '10

Hi, Some of you may recall that sometimes in February, GoSS published a tender call for the supply and installation of VC Equipment. Unfortunately, the 3 short-listed eligible companies that responded either under the misconception that the global economic sanctions against the Sudan affect Southern Sudan (Southern Sudan is exempted), or fearing certainity or otherwise of the outcome of the just ended elections all backed-out last minute. Because the material project is about to come to an end, instead of re-advertising (which would take long), it has been proposed that quotations be directly soliticed from competent companies/suppliers. Should your company be eligible - or know one that is, contact Francis Muthuiya (NOT the sender).at muthuiyaf(a)yahoo.com URGENTLY. Rgrds, Shem, Juba

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Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
by Harry Delano 06 May '10

06 May '10

-- Gilda, We are awaiting you to unveil the 6 gents/ladies Task force on ICT below - specifically, their mandate/objectives who they are accountable to, and it's scope of participatory engagement with the wider multi stakeholders.. When is this coming..? Regards, Harry -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of godera(a)skyweb.co.ke Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:39 AM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building Listers, I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry. Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their mandate, in my view, what is most important is that each respective body plays it part to the full and possibly even surpass the expectations of the industry. As long as they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the ICT Hub in Africa)in all their activities, the industry will have gained. What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other, rather complement one another to grow this industry. We must all work together for good of this industry and nation. Gilda Odera Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister (For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and Government was recently put together for a two year term to advise on all these issues being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.) Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri(a)andestbites.com>: > Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a > feeling that with time, whatever body will be formed will still face > the same attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate etc > > > > Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in the > direction ICT development in Kenya should follow? > > > > > > From: kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke > ] On Behalf Of Harry Delano > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM > To: emuchiri(a)andestbites.com > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building > > > > > > Lilian, > > > This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these > resourceful discussions coming in. > > > > Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies existing, > happen to work within some form of > > mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the mandates > are competing mandates or > > a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them.. > > > > Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a huge > phenomenon, that cuts' out across > > the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM. This > means, stakeholders from other > > Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy.. > > > > I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to which, > each of the Govt agencies can have a > > representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all > sectors, private , and govt. All interests > > should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for > purposes of accountability and > > transparency.. > > > > If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:- > > > > * National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF) > * National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK) > * National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB) > > Other names are welcome.. > > > > Harry > > > > _____ > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] > On Behalf Of Lilian Karanja > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM > To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building > > > > > Yes, Robert.......I see. > > > > Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance you > do not produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in the > context of the management of ICT crafts a clear framework in which > decisions are made, who makes the decisions about business and > technology developments, who has input into the decision-making process and how the decisions are formed". > > > > In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the > Directorate of e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under > Min. Of Finance), and both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of Info > Comm) seem to have related ICT goals and objectives. They > (unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate in their > decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like SITA/RITA. > Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up into a > KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not 'mature' into the institution envisioned. > > GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on: > > . Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT within > GoK > > . How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to improve > services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc > > . How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the country at > large > > . The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what > mechanism and how resources are to be managed) > > . The way investments are to be made and policies on realising and > sharing benefits > > . How the required skills are to be procured (through strategic > partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc) > > . The principles that underlie the ICT architecture > > . Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT > investment programmes > > . Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core > elements of the infrastructure: > > o Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional development > and where certain skills should reside > > o Methods and techniques - what project/programme management, development > and operations management standards should be used > > o Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance management) > > o Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of information > > o Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll, registries and > personnel standards, etc > > o Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards > > o Security > > o Legal > > > > This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We look > to GoK greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add value' > to broadband so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation > towards the use ICTs and the Internet increases (especially in the > rural areas, as they access Government e-Services), thus creating an > Internet Community and an IT culture. Am not sure we necessarily need > support from outside to do this, even donor funds (we don't need). We > can do it on our own, as we (Kenya) are, now, known to be an emerging > knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to create a Kenyan way > 'working with'and using ICT. We have so many Youth (any way), who are > jobless! Lets purposefully develop capacity of these young and use them sufficiently. > > > > I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings. > > > > LILIAN > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building > To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM > > Hi Lilian, > > > > Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best > trained ICT fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted > with them for over 10 years. Do not be deceived by the fact that they > are no fancy websites or iphone applications the men and women who > keep the government systems running are basically miracle workers. > > > > How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they need > is a capacity building what they need like all with the other areas of > government is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS. Hon Raila > has definitely moved government efficiency a notch higher and without > a "dream team" or expatriate consultants all he did was dust off the diamonds within. > > > > Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you for > 2 hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work, if > you are unable to find something profitable to do with the balance 6 > hours then that is your problem. > > > > What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT or > BPO whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to "desilo" > (term coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the > government activities. > > > > Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your > selves, I know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that next > time I need to put the record strait on your behalf I will actually name names. > > > Robert Yawe > KAY System Technologies Ltd > Phoenix House, 6th Floor > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 > Kenya > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 > > > > > > > _____ > > > From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja(a)yahoo.com> > To: robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked > > > Dear PS: > > > > It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues discussed > in this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you, and others in > Government and also in the private sector who are so passionate about > the use of ICTs and the Internet to create opportunities for all, in > Kenya, and see that ICT remains a reliable vehicle for economic growth > and development. So, please don't stop listening to us, patiently and > we beseech you to continue in your wisdom in dealing with these matters. > > > > This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is it > a myth or reality?' have raised important questions that should be > addressed with 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have noted, a > town hall meeting is good and always welcome. However, moving forward, > it needs to be clear how ICT Board interacts with Government and how > it promotes the existence of an Institutional Framework for ICT > management in Government. Clearly, the ICT Board manages of a huge > chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya, eGovernment and the > likes (through the KTCIP), but still the Government lags behind in their ICT technical know-how and skills. > > > > While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building > (Providing GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and > funding for anchor implementation of ICT projects for development) > over time we have only seen laxity in the management of ICT by > Government i.e. poor websites, unsatisfactory performance of legacy > systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address management, meagre IT Security > (web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E of ICT & eGovt, etc. But > may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the Government Officers > who manage IT issues in Government are not continuously trained in all pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel. > > > > I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that part > of their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have Government > Officers who cannot do much to use broadband properly and > strategically as well as make eGovernment a reality. The cabilities of > these Officers should be close to, if not better than those in the > private sector. And when GoK finally has real experts and engineers in > ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted to keep them and recompense > them accordingly. This is the future of Government IT, 'people who are knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'. > > > > LILIAN > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> wrote: > > > From: bitange(a)jambo.co.ke <bitange(a)jambo.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked > To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke> > Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM > > Barrack, > Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will be > wise if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we had on Malili. > Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create these > agencies without putting some thought to it. Criticisms are good only > when you point out where there are gaps. > > The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one > person did respond. What it means then is that this forum ni ya kuchongoana tu. > Which really is unfortunate. I have four other policy proposals that > I really think should push through then arouse sufficient interest > from the membership here. > > > Ndemo. > > > > This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this questions > > are very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can someone provide > > us with a list of all agencies involved in ICTs and ICT4D so that we > > can do some tooth comb analysis, i saw a post from Paul on what the > > board has achieved early this year, that was very much in order we > > need something from NCS as well plus any other agencies. > > > > Regards > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga <volunga(a)yahoo.com > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait. > >> What is the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the two > >> bodies relate with respect to advisory services to the governement > >> on ICT matters? > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> Vitalis > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: robert yawe <robertyawe(a)yahoo.co.uk > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> > > > >> To: volunga(a)yahoo.com > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet. > or.ke> > > > >> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked > >> > >> Hi, > >> I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try > >> reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do > >> anything and everything under the sun that could be called ICT > >> which includes your microwave oven and copier. > >> Functions of Kenya ICT Board > >> The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the Kenya > >> Gazette Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007: > >> . To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining to > >> development, coordination (remember the PM post) and promotion of > >> ICT industries in the country. > >> . Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities for > >> investments in ICT technology . Facilitate and manage ICT > >> industrial incubation parks and technology parks together with > >> associated facilities on sites, estates and land. > >> . Partner with agents within and without the country to carry out > >> such functions as it may consider necessary. > >> . To transform and empower society through deployment and use of ICTs. > >> . Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT products > >> and services. > >> Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you > >> guessed it I still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi. > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet. > or.ke> > > >> http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> This message was sent to: otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com > > > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail. > com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Barrack O. 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BPO/ITES-Gazette Notice
by Edith Adera 06 May '10

06 May '10

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Re: [kictanet] Article on Kenya ICT Policy-publication version FOR YOU!
by Harry Delano 05 May '10

05 May '10

Hey Warigia, Thanks so much for posting this online. I have been going through it, and am still flipping the pages. Well done, for the amount of effort that you put up to come up with this work. Now, I may not really be a good Literary Critique, in ICT terms - (using the import from Literary circles) - However, I admire one of the elements you have pointed out in your preample about "process". I suppose this still ails us, as we hurtle along towards defining our Key National goals in utilizing ICT as a tool. Just how do we cut out "baggage", get down to the point and get things done efficiently, and cost-effectively. This is our biggest conundrum to date. There is alot of baggage around. Listers, any comment on this work, by Warigia..? Harry _____ From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of warigia bowman Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:28 PM To: harry(a)comtelsys.co.ke Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Article on Kenya ICT Policy-publication version FOR YOU! Dear colleagues Here is the article on Kenya's ICT policy which is going to press today. The correct citation is Bowman, Warigia, "Governance, Technology and the Search for Modernity in Kenya," William and Mary Policy Review 1 (April 2010): 87-116. Please CITE the article if you use it, or dispute it, or think about it in your work. i tried to cite every article by everyone that was published in idrcs books on this, READ THE ENDNOTES to find your name. HIGHLIGHTS: footnote 4 i say thank you to everyone i can fit. p. 110- long discussion of kictanet and KIF. p. 97, rege and ndemo and okech are great, p. 100 waema and getao, p. 102, the BEST PART mucheru fights back against tuju, 103, alice becomes CCK commissioner. i hope you like it, and if you have corrections or complaints, you can send them to me offline as i prepare my book manuscript. Yours with DEEP gratitude to KIF and kictanet, Warigia -- Dr. Warigia Bowman Assistant Professor The Department of Public Policy Leadership The University of Mississippi 107 Odom Hall University, MS 38677 URL: http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/leadership/index.html PHONE: 662-915-1904 EMAIL: mwbowman(a)olemiss.edu

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