March 2006 - KICTANet

Fund raising proposal development for the network Wedneasday 15 2006
by alice＠apc.org 15 Mar '06

15 Mar '06

Dear all The Embassy of Finland in Kenya is interested in funding our networks activities. They have requested for a full proposal, including work plan and budget to be submitted to them by tomorrow (Wednesday 15th 2006)noon. This message is to invite network members who have the space and time to attend an urgent breakfast meeting tomorrow at 8.30 a.m. to develop the proposal, work plan etc. Please let me know how many of you will be able to attend. Apologies for the late announcement I received another phone call from the embassy today enquiring after the proposal. kind regards alice

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Re: [Kictanet] Fund raising proposal development for the network Wedneasday 15 2006
by Wainaina Mungai 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

Confirmed.... I presume the meeting will be at "the office" @ Jacaranda ;-) --- Wainaina Mungai http://www.madeinkenya.org SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. > -------Original Message------- > From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni(a)kenet.or.ke> > Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Fund raising proposal development for the network Wedneasday 15 2006 > Sent: 14 Mar '06 17:07 > > My apologies, i > > This is a good development. > > Muthoni > > alice(a)apc.org wrote: > > > Dear all > > > > The Embassy of Finland in Kenya is interested in funding our networks > > activities. They have requested for a full proposal, including work > > plan and budget to be submitted to them by tomorrow (Wednesday 15th > > 2006)noon. > > > > This message is to invite network members who have the space and time > > to attend an urgent breakfast meeting tomorrow at 8.30 a.m. to develop > > the proposal, work plan etc. > > > > Please let me know how many of you will be able to attend. > > > > Apologies for the late announcement I received another phone call from > > the embassy today enquiring after the proposal. > > > > kind regards > > > > alice > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40kenet.or.ke > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Please unsubscribe or change your options at http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/wainaina%40madeinkenya.org

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How to write a project proposal
by alice＠apc.org 14 Mar '06

14 Mar '06

Dear network members Thought to share this tool kit developed by the APC on "how to write a project proposal" with you all. For those who can make it for the breakfast meeting tomorrow hope you will have had a chance to look at the tool kit. thank you and kind regards alice

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Press Release: Easing Access to EASSY
by Brian Longwe 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

FYI

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RE: [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet Community to gather in Nairobi in May
by Barry Greene (bgreene) 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Good catch on NEPAD! Any more people know about? So it looks like a busy week. Nairobi is the place to be in May. Lots of overlap. Seems like three meetings on the 18th - 20th all doing the same thing going after the same audience. Q. Is there a URL for the ISOC meeting? Q. Is AfTLD meeting? 7-12 May 2006 (Sunday - Friday) AfNOG Workshop 13 May (Saturday) [Blank] 14 May (Sunday) AfNOG Tutorials 15 May (Monday) AfNOG Meeting 16 May (Tuesday) AfriNIC Meeting 17 May (Wednesday) AfriNIC Meeting 18 May (Thursday) ISOC INET Africa Day African Internet Forum NEPAD Council ICTe Africa 2006 Tutorials 19 May (Friday) African Internet Forum AfrISPA AGM NEPAD Council ICTe Africa 2006 Conference (Vendor Workshop?) 20 May (Saturday) NEPAD Council ICTe Africa 2006 Conference 21 May (Sunday) NEPAD Council ICTe Africa 2006 Conference URLs ---- AFNOG http://www.afnog.org/afnog2006/> AFRINIC http://www.afrinic.net/meeting/ AFRISPA http://www.afrispa.org/ NEPAD Council ICTe Africa 2006 Conference & Tutorials http://www.nepadcouncil.org/ICTeAfrica2006/index.html

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IPDET 2006 is open for registrations!
by alice＠apc.org 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Dear colleagues, I attended the 2005 International Programme for Development Evaluation sponsored by IDRC and wish to share with you all this announcement for 2006 programme. This is a World Bank, Carleton University and IDRC supported annual programme that focuses on building skills to evaluate development interventions. It is a fantastic opportunity not only for those engaged in development but also in policy. for more information please visit www.ipdet.org regards alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Morra" <lmorra(a)ifc.org> To: "IPDET Distribution List" <ipdet(a)lists.worldbank.org> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [ipdet] IPDET 2006 is open for registrations! > Dear all, > > We are most pleased to announce that the IPDET website is updated and open > for summer 2006 registrations! We especially encourage you to look at the > workshops. We have 28 this year and have some exciting new additions. We > also ask you to share this information with your colleagues and tell them > about your experience with IPDET. The updated website also contains a > link to the evaluation report on IPDET 2005. > > www.ipdet.org > > Linda and Ray > > --- > You are currently subscribed to ipdet as: alice(a)apc.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-ipdet-5022085V(a)lists.worldbank.org >

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CSK Quarterly Luncheon
by Waudo Siganga 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Dear Colleagues, The CSK Quarterly luncheon will be held tomorrow, Wednesday 8th March, 2006 in the Walnut Room at the Panari Hotel (Mombasa Road) from 12.30 p.m. to 2.00 p.m. The chief guest will be Mr. Allen Z. Miller, the Executive Director of the World Information Technology and Services Alliance (www.witsa.org) Entry is gratis and complimentary courtesy of full sponsorship by IWay Africa (Afsat Communications). I would like to request the pleasure of the company of Kiplist and Kictanet colleagues; if you would like to come please revert so that I can send you an e-card invitation. Please ignore this if you have already received your e-card. Also, I will be away from office the whole day with most of my staff attending the AFICTA meetings meaning I can only send the e-cards this evening. Kind Regards Waudo Siganga Chairman, The Computer Society of Kenya

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Fwd: [AfrISPA.Discuss] [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet Community to gatherin Nairobi in May
by Brian Longwe 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

This is how to solve problems African style! ;-) Brian Begin forwarded message: > From: Sunday A Folayan <sfolayan(a)skannet.com.ng> > Date: 7 March 2006 08:38:05 GMT+03:00 > To: AfriNIC Discuss <afrinic-discuss(a)afrinic.net> > Cc: "Nii Quaynor" <quaynor(a)ghana.com>, <eric(a)afrispa.org>, "AfriNIC > Discuss" <afrinic-discuss(a)afrinic.net>, <discuss(a)afrispa.org>, > <committee(a)afrispa.org>, <afnog-admin(a)psg.com>, africasource2- > l(a)lists.tacticaltech.org, Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet > <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>, afix(a)afrispa.org, En- > ISPA_Team(a)afrispa.org, IDLELO <idlelo2(a)fossfa.net>, > tier(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [AfrISPA.Discuss] [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet > Community to gatherin Nairobi in May > Reply-To: Discuss(a)afrispa.org > > At 01:45 AM 3/7/2006, Adiel A. Akplogan wrote: > >>> The announcement had listed AfNOG and AfriNIC meetings as part of >>> the AIF. >>> This is the first time AfNOG organizers have heard of the AIF and >>> wish all >>> to know that AfNOG is not part of the AIF activities. >> >> Neither is AfriNIC. This is the first time we are also hearing >> about this >> AIF meeting and it is unfortunate that no consultation nor >> coordination >> has took place before such planing and public announcement. Both >> AfriNIC >> and AfNOG have meeting committee working on the Nairobi event and >> we do >> not received any request from the 'AIF' organizers nor AfriSPA in >> that >> regard either. Taking that step would have save us this kind of >> confusion >> and all comments which have followed! >> >> I think its time for us to start working effectively together to make >> a better use of our poor resources and stop wasting time, energy and >> resource doing same things and in an uncoordinated way. >> >> I hope all this will be solved behind the scene in a peaceful way for >> the best interest of our community. >> >> Cheers. >> >> - a. > > Nii and Eric, > > I'll pay for the beer (OK .... Red Label) in Nairobi, so that we > can discuss how this type of misunderstanding will not happen > again, for the sake of the Networking community in Africa. > > Peace. > > Sunday.

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RE: [Kictanet] Kenya ICT Action Network Condemns Overnight Raid on STANDARD AND KTN Offices
by Wainaina Mungai 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

1. Is the media in Kenya without blame? I have the likes of Standard/KTN/Kass FM/Inooro & Weekly Citizen et. al. in mind? 2. If not, then why do we find it hard to demand better services to the Kenyan consumer? Why do we find it so hard to say "and we demand that the media report accurately and without bias in their service to Kenyans". Just that, and we would have moved a step forward in objectivity. 3. The Nation did not publish the Kalonzo/StateHouse story because "it could not be verified" even after they objectively checked with their own sources - http://allafrica.com/stories/200603030414.html . The Nation did not find the story plausible and all parties (Kalonzo, Raila and State House) claimed it was a fabrication. Who is telling untruths here and why should KICTANet so readily believe The Standard story. Since when did it become ok to fabricate strories? If the story was true, did State House LIE to Kenyans? We cannot escape from putting the media to task here because a fabricated story would be a dangerous precedent that KICTANet and Kenyans in general must protest. The same applies if State-House told Kenyans a lie. We should not allow this story to go away because it imply that the highest office in the land has resorted to outright fabrication of which we must protest. 4. Do we all remember that one of the senior editors at the The Standard was fired from Nation for taking a bribes so as to publish falsehoods? Why are we so convinced that the same would not recur in any media house? Don't we leavbe with the reality of Inooro and Citizen's biased coverage everyday? Is this the media Walu is asking us to defend? 5. KTN or Citizen are not the "Kenyan consumer" of media products. Kenyans are helpless receipient of fabrticated stories while the media is teh offending party here. These media houses are not devoid of political bias and in some extreme cases, tribal bias. The days of people hiding behind an attack on "our people" when they are caught misconduct went in December 2002. No-one in government or outside it should use Kenyans as his defence when he has offended the ethical dmands of his/her vocation or even the laws of the land. Walu, the days of irresponsible media must come to an end as much as the days of draconian action. Neither the state nor the media has a right to abuse what freedoms and powers Kenyan (citizens and consumers) accord them. The Kenyan consumer comes first. Wainaina > -------Original Message------- > From: John Walubengo <jwalubengo(a)kcct.ac.ke> > Subject: RE: [Kictanet] Kenya ICT Action Network Condemns Overnight Raid on STANDARD AND KTN Offices > Sent: 06 Mar '06 11:16 > > Anthony, > > This is the fundamental issue. That this raid (whatever the justified reasons) was totally out of order. It does set a very dangerous precedence. If something like this is not condemned with the contempt it deserves, these 'Kanga' squads would soon get orders to move from the Media, and graduate into the other aspects of our lives...including your homes. > > I shudder when I imagine that a time shall come when fathers and mothers shall get ripped from their childrens arms, and then disappear into the night never to be seen, courtesy of the Kanga Squad - all in the name of 'national security'. Seems far fetched, but possible. All it needs is for one, two or more raids to happen without Kenyans complaining and suddenly it will become an acceptable way of resolving issues. > > It is a proven physcological concept. That if you want to boil a frog in hot water, dont drop it directly into hot water, because it will jump out and escape. What u do instead is to put it in cold water and then slowly and steadily increase the heat. Within 15min the frog never gets to know how it died. Kenyans must never for a moment agree to these types of assualt. They must not get accustomed to this kind of treatment. > > To me this raid goes beyond an attack on the media. It is an attack that goes directly into our collective ability as a nation to tolerate abuse from the high and mighty. We must chose to jump out of the hot water NOW...or slowly boil to our death. > > my fifty cents. > > walu. > > > >>> <Anthony.MUSUNJI(a)cec.eu.int> 03/06/06 11:58AM >>> > In a civilised society of which I believed we lived in until last Thursday > there are clear mechanisms to mitigate such issues .The attack on KTN > /Standard sets a dangerous precedence and I cannot believe anyone can > support such actions > > > > Anthony Musunji > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-kiplist-cl-102759(a)lyris.idrc.ca [mailto:benmakai@yahoo.com] > Sent: 06 March 2006 11:25 > To: KIPlist > Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Kenya ICT Action Network Condemns Overnight Raid on > STANDARD AND KTN Offices > > > > Charles has raised very important points and i beleive list members should > ask themselves why the raid other than condeming...why was nation not raided > > > Charles Hunja <chunja(a)idrc.or.ke> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > ...and I am fully in agreement with Wainaina. Before any joint (or > "members'") statement is issued, we should first understand why, and if > there a need for such to be issued. Secondly, we should understand the > statement itself, its weight, cones, and relevance. I again disagree with > the statement, "Some events do not provide us with adequate opportunity to > consult each other". The only events which may not provide enough time for > consultation may only be those to do with organisation/office running, which > need quick decision of which the return/results are expected. > > Though we should be free to discuss any issue, we should re! alise that ours > is not a political tool but rather, a business tool. It is interesting to > see how some people and/or organisations are quick to accuse, by following > others before understanding everything. On the issue of the KTN/Standard, no > one has ever bothered to ask why the two house were attacked. Some say it > is because of the Kalonzo story. If I may ask, between "Kalonzo/Kibaki" and > the "Anglo Leasing" stories, which one of the two was more likely to hurt > the government? Which one was more damning. If it is the Anglo Leasing story > which was released by the nation Media Group, then why is it that nation did > not come under attack. The minister for internal security said he was > responsible and that the attack was necessitated by a threat in national > security. Full stop! > > What I hear everybody say is that Press Freedom is very important, and I > fully agree with them. Very very important. But why on earth should a > newspaper write on its front (or back) page that Mr. X! XX is a bank robber > and a rapist, and when followed, start crying out about press freedom and > freedom of expression? This freedom does not mean telling lies e.g. working > for particular politicians to insult others and so on. We know, (and I have > a case in point where) journalists are paid to accompany politicians. that > way, wherever they are and whatever they say is always covered by the media. > Anyway, what I am saying is don't pass judgement because others are doing > so. We shouldn't follow blindly. Before doing so, we should always strive to > understand the case first, by gathering all the evidence and listening to > all parties. That way, we may be armed to give a "fair judgement" > > Anyway, these are my thought and not those of the KICTNet. I guess the > network is a discussion forum. > > Hunja > > > > At 02:25 PM 04/03/2006 +0300, Wainaina Mungai wrote: > > > > Hi Malaba, > > I was under the impression that a "KICTANET s! tatement" is a joint > statement that needs wider consultation so as to legitimise the words > below....because KICTANet does not exist without its membership. I may have > been wrong. > > > > > We the members of the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet), a > multistakeholder group of organisations > > > and networks from civil > society, private > > > > sector, media, academia, and development partners > > Wainaina > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: David Sparrow Malaba <sdmalaba(a)yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Kenya ICT Action Network Condemns Overnight Raid > on STANDARD AND KTN Offices > > Sent: 04 Mar '06 11:31 > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > I feel that as members of KICTANET, each one of us is > > free including our organizations to take a particular > > stand on any issue or issues at any time as they > > arise. But if Mr. Mungai is suggesting that in future > > we make joint press statements, then that is something > > else, that may perhaps require consultation from > > members. Some events do not provide us with adequate > > opportunity to consult each other. > > > > Let us play our roles even if it means commenting on > > any issue without fear of contradiction or even being > > labeled or victimised by members. > > > > Kind regards > > David Malaba > > The Computer Society of Kenya > > > > > > --- "Made in Kenya.org" <info(a)madeinkenya.org> wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Just out of curiousity, who was consulted in the > > > drafting of this statement? As a member, I am > > > totally in the dark on this one! . AS much as I > > > support the condemnation of the police action, I > > > must distance myself from this one-sided and > > > apparently unilaterally drafted statement that seems > > > to be in denial of the reality in Kenya today. Media > > > freedom is not absolute and Kenyan consumers have a > > > right to access accurate and unbiased information > > > from the media and other sources. > > > > > > The statement will only serve to sanitise misconduct > > > by the local media. KICTANet should not be seen as a > > > trade association where irresponsible media finds > > > solace. I hope that will not be the message > > > KICTANet will pass on to participants at the planned > > > "Media and ICTs workshop next week (March 10-13) in > > > Mombasa. All freedoms, especially the freed! om of the > > > press must be exercised with restraint. Media > > > freedom carries with it alot of power and power has > > > corrupted a significant section of our media. > > > > > > The unilateral decision to draft and circulate a > > > statement on behalf of KICTANet despite protests > > > from some members (no matter how few) should not be > > > presented in a manner to imply that it is the > > > collective view of the network. > > > > > > Even the Media Owners Association did a much better > > > job by demanding that its membership exercise > > > responsible journalism. For that, I must > > > congratulate the MoA for exercising objectivity and > > > advice KICTANet to make an honest attempt at such > > > objectivity in future. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Wainaina Mungai > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: alice(a)apc.org > > > > Subject: [Kictanet] Kenya ICT Action Network > > > Condemns Overnight Raid on STANDARD AND KTN Offices > > > > Sent: 03 Mar '06 10:27 > > > > > > > > Press Release > > > > > > > > Kenya ICT Action Network Condemns Overnight Raid > > > on STANDARD AND KTN Offices > > > > > > > > 3 March 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are shocked and outraged > > > > by the recent actions meted by the government on > > > the standard group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 1 March 2006, the Government of > > > Kenya launched an > > > > unprecedented and vicious attack on the STANDARD > > > GROUP premises, harassed > > > > the journalists, confiscated equipment, > > > interrupted TV transmission and > > > > burned copies of the day's newspaper edition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Government has detained and continues to hold > > > in detention three > > > > Standard journalists apparently for misreporting > > > that a leading opposition > > > > politician had secretly met the President at > > > State House. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When interviewed, the Internal Security Minister > > > Hon. Muchuki did not deny > > > > the government's involvement in this horrifying > > > event of March 1st stating > > > > state security as the reason behind the > > > government's actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see this as crude and gross abuse of power and > > > our constitution. > > > > > > > > At a recent ICT strategy conference held at the > > > safari park hotel his > > > > Excellency the president of Kenya unveiled > > > Kenya's ICT strategy, whose main > > &g! t; > objective is " transforming Kenya's economy > > > through promoting and > > > > facilitating the private sector to serve as the > > > driver for economic > > > > development". This crude action contradicts the > > > government's recent > > > > objectives to maintain a favourable climate for > > > investment and creation of > > > > jobs for Kenyan's. No investor would place their > > > money in an environment > > > > where the rule of law and order is disregarded > > > with utmost impunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This action is also reminiscent of the dark days > > > in Kenya when the media was > >! > > constantly harassed in order to suppress the > > > freedom of expression, thought > > > > and association. The action demonstrates that > > > the Government, which is the > > > > custodian of law and order is not committed to > > > the rule of law as the basic > > > > foundation for a modern and civilised society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whereas the Government may be validly aggrieved, > > > there are established and > > > > internationally acceptable mechanisms for seeking > > > redress through the courts > > > > of law. The Kenya Telecommunication Act (1998 > > > revised 2001) clearly spells > > > > out the procedures that should be followed! in the > > > event that a Media House > > > > needs to be shutdown. > > > > > > > > KICATNet translates this action as an attempt to > > > frighten the independent > > > > media, limit Kenyan's political space and erode > > > our human rights. It is also > > > > a gross violation of our constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KICTANet therefore strongly condemns the > > > government's actions and stands in > > > > solidarity with the Kenyan media and particularly > > > our colleagues at the > > > > standard media group. We take this opportunity > > > to remind the government of > > > > Kenya that the foundation of a sound dem! ocracy is > > > the right to information > > > > and freedom of press. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is therefore imperative that the Government > > > quickly moves to restore not > > > > just investor confidence but also citizens' > > > confidence in protection of our > > > > fundamental human rights and democratic space > > > that has been gained largely > > > > due to a free press. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KICTANet is appalled by the actions and urges the > > > Minister(s) and the > > > > Agency/ies involved to publicly apologise and > > > expeditiously restore the > > > > services! of the Media House as well as paying for > > > all the losses that the > > > > standard group have incurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) > > > > > > > > > > > > Contact Details for the network > > > > > > > > Judy Kimiti > > > > > > > > jkimiti(a)email.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kictanet mailing list > > > kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke > > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > <http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet> > > > > > > Please unsubscribe o! r change your options at > > > > > http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sdmalaba%40yahoo.com > <http://kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sdmalaba@yahoo.com> > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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Fwd: [Idlelo2] Re: RE: [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet Community to gather in Nairobi in May
by Bill Kagai 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: dandjinou.pierre(a)undp.org <dandjinou.pierre(a)undp.org> Date: Mar 7, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: [Idlelo2] Re: RE: [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet Community to gather in Nairobi in May To: AfriNIC Discuss <afrinic-discuss(a)afrinic.net> Cc: africasource2-l(a)lists.tacticaltech.org, Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet <kictanet(a)kictanet.or.ke>, discuss(a)afrispa.org, En-ISPA_Team(a)afrispa.org, tier(a)tier.cs.berkeley.edu, afnog-admin(a)psg.com, committee(a)afrispa.org, afix(a)afrispa.org, IDLELO <idlelo2(a)fossfa.net> Barry, I think the confusion is certainly due to the wording in Eric's posting. Afrinic, Afnog and Afrispa have actually discussed and worked towards the Nairobi events.And also, we have been in touch with ISOC and agreed on the Isoc Inet Africa day so that we really firm up the networking/collaboration between the different AF*. What is creating the confusion is the association with AIF which, to my understanding has never formed part of our original AF*. Thus, it should be noted that in case there is an association betwen Afrispa and AIF, this can only be seen as a separate event and certainly NOT an Umbrella organization. Regards Pierre Chair, AfriNIC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Greene (bgreene)" <bgreene(a)cisco.com> Date: Monday, March 6, 2006 7:52 pm Subject: RE: [afrinic-discuss] Africa 's Internet Community to gather in Nairobi in May > > So, we have overlap and competition: > > 7-12 May 2006 (Sunday - Friday) AfNOG Workshop > 13 May (Saturday) [Blank] > 14 May (Sunday) AfNOG Tutorials > 15 May (Monday) AfNOG Meeting > 16 May (Tuesday) AfriNIC Meeting > 17 May (Wednesday) AfriNIC Meeting > 18 May (Thursday) ISOC INET Africa Day > African Internet Forum > 19 May (Friday) African Internet Forum > AfrISPA AGM > (Vendor Workshop?) > > > Sound like it is time for you to get a 'Arf-*' forum just like > there is > an AP* forum. Otherwise the in-fighting is going to do a diservice to > all the consituents who come for that week. > > _______________________________________________ > afrinic-discuss mailing list > afrinic-discuss(a)afrinic.net > http://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/afrinic-discuss > _______________________

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